Re: Mercury & Toxic Metals and Weight Gain - connections?

[Guest guest]

I don't know about the specific questions you asked, but my personal

experience has been that getting my health problems under control has

significantly affected my weight. I have not pursued diet or exercise -- at

least not in the usual " trying to lose weight " kind of way. I have tried to

become more active -- I was bedridden for nearly 4 months a few years back,

so just being able to work a full time job and get groceries and so forth is

a lot more energetic than that -- and I watch what I eat for health reasons,

not paying any attention at all to calories or other things that people

normally do to control weight. Yet, my body has shrunk dramatically over

the last two or three years.

For me, I concluded that I was never actually fat and that my excess weight

was more like a form of edema. I suspect that I retained water in order to

dilute the huge volume of toxins in my system and keep it from killing me.

As I did things to heal myself, I would have movement of fluid in various

parts of my body -- like my feet would swell -- and then it would move to my

abdomen which would become very bloated and then I would have diarrhea. As

I physically shrank and most of my body began to look more " normal " , my

belly remained disproportionately large in comparison to the rest of me.

Recently, my belly has begun to also shrink and I think that is an indicator

that I am close to being well.

So I would suggest that one possibility is that your extra weight insulates

you from the impact of the toxins and you may not need it anymore after

those are removed. In other words, right now, your weight may be helping to

keep you alive in the face of being very poisoned. That seems to be what

was going on for me. I don't see why it wouldn't apply in at least some

other cases.

HTH,

--

Michele

talithamichele@...

http://www.atraceofme.com

If the base leaves, everybody loses: http://www.solanorail.org

[Guest guest]

>

> Following up to my last post, I wonder if weight problems that began

at toddler age (I

> remember being overweight at three) are connected wtih metals poisoning,

At my house, weight problems were associated with mitochondrial

dysfunction [improper fat digestion]. One child was seriously

underweight, two kids [plus me] were overweight. Addressing mito

issues helped all of us with those problems. I wrote what I did

specifically with #2 here

http://www.danasview.net/mar05.htm

Dana

[Guest guest]

>

> Following up to my last post, I wonder if weight problems that began

at toddler age (I

> remember being overweight at three) are connected wtih metals

poisoning,

Weight problems can be associated with metal poisoning. Andy gives

some mechanisms on p 48-49 of Amalgam Illness.

J

as boderline

> Asperger's traits I've had a lifetime were also beginning or in

place by then. I am chelating

> hoping to reduce mild forms of nearly all the problems my daughter

has in megadoses, but is

> failure to regulate eating - stop when full, sense gut fullness - as

well as other eating issues

> (addiction to certain allergenic foods, obsessive compulsive

tendencies that make it difficult

> to stop doing something when it's no longer serving you including

eating, sensory craving

> including oral, etc.) can be reduced through chelation? The

borderline hypothyroid I

> understand is helped, but has anyone felt less pressure to overeat

as chelation progresses?

>

> I am taking just oral ALA at this point at 25 mg/dose, will try

upping to perhaps the 50mg

> size as they aren't easy to find at lower doses. I currently cut

Vit. Shoppe 50mg tablet in half.

> My ideal reasonable weight is approx 130 pounds, but I'm about 50

pounds over that, and I

> know a lot of the barriers to weight loss are due to a screeching

ASD child that can't really

> cooperate in exercise, improved diet, etc. but a lot of the problem

was already there when

> she came.

>

> One other doctor I have says she thinks my adrenals are stressed in

addition to or more than

> the thyroid and thinks detoxing of some kind will improve function

of both, but I launched

> into Cutler Chelation first as I was already set up and helping my

child anyway. I figured I'd

> get to her detox sold by Standard Process corporation once I

finished with the metals.

>

[Guest guest]

It's possible that mercury may be sequestered in fatty tissues. So be

careful about initiating lengthy, vigorous exercise. If so, take

extra antioxidants.

I know someone who suddenly decided to work out for 2 hours straight,

then developed erythema nodosum and was hospitalized for several

days. The emergency personnel had no understanding of the underlying

mechanism and did little more than administer steroids and fluids.

Also, get your thyroid checked, if you haven't already.

- Hokkanen

> I don't know about the specific questions you asked, but my personal

> experience has been that getting my health problems under control

has

> significantly affected my weight. I have not pursued diet or

exercise -- at

> least not in the usual " trying to lose weight " kind of way. I have

tried to

> become more active -- I was bedridden for nearly 4 months a few

years back,

> so just being able to work a full time job and get groceries and so

forth is

> a lot more energetic than that -- and I watch what I eat for health

reasons,

> not paying any attention at all to calories or other things that

people

> normally do to control weight. Yet, my body has shrunk

dramatically over

> the last two or three years.

>

> For me, I concluded that I was never actually fat and that my

excess weight

> was more like a form of edema. I suspect that I retained water in

order to

> dilute the huge volume of toxins in my system and keep it from

killing me.

> As I did things to heal myself, I would have movement of fluid in

various

> parts of my body -- like my feet would swell -- and then it would

move to my

> abdomen which would become very bloated and then I would have

diarrhea. As

> I physically shrank and most of my body began to look

more " normal " , my

> belly remained disproportionately large in comparison to the rest

of me.

> Recently, my belly has begun to also shrink and I think that is an

indicator

> that I am close to being well.

>

> So I would suggest that one possibility is that your extra weight

insulates

> you from the impact of the toxins and you may not need it anymore

after

> those are removed. In other words, right now, your weight may be

helping to

> keep you alive in the face of being very poisoned. That seems to

be what

> was going on for me. I don't see why it wouldn't apply in at least

some

> other cases.

>

> HTH,

>

> --

> Michele

>

> talithamichele@...

> http://www.atraceofme.com

>

> If the base leaves, everybody loses: http://www.solanorail.org

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dana

How did you go about finding out about your #2 son having problems with

mitochondrial dysfunction (improper fat digestion). My daughter for her age is

over weight, she does not have a thyroid problem (had this checked out twice by

DAN). I do not consider her weight problem to be associated with food, and this

thread has struck a cord with me. Maybe my daughter has this mitochondrial

dysfunction.

How do I go about finding out more about this condition (ie: blood tests etc).

Also you mention that you give B50, what is B50, can you point me in the

direction of finding out more about what B50 is.

TIA

danasview <danasview@...> wrote:

>

> Following up to my last post, I wonder if weight problems that began

at toddler age (I

> remember being overweight at three) are connected wtih metals poisoning,

At my house, weight problems were associated with mitochondrial

dysfunction [improper fat digestion]. One child was seriously

underweight, two kids [plus me] were overweight. Addressing mito

issues helped all of us with those problems. I wrote what I did

specifically with #2 here

http://www.danasview.net/mar05.htm

Dana

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[Guest guest]

> Dana

> How did you go about finding out about your #2 son having problems

with mitochondrial dysfunction (improper fat digestion).

Any time I gave him any fats, he became mean and aggressive.

Researching this led to mito cocktail, which worked very well for my

son. He did need preloading. I wrote about it here

http://www.danasview.net/mar05.htm

>>My daughter for her age is over weight, she does not have a thyroid

problem (had this checked out twice by DAN). I do not consider her

weight problem to be associated with food, and this thread has struck

a cord with me. Maybe my daughter has this mitochondrial dysfunction.

My youngest is age 8, and has a very big belly that is unrelated to

food or yeast. Giving her mito supplements has reduced the belly

somewhat. I have only been doing this protocol for her for a month or

so, so she still has a ways to go.

My #1 is a skinny bean pole. Giving him mito cocktail has helped make

him look less like a skeleton.

> How do I go about finding out more about this condition (ie: blood

tests etc).

I don't know about testing, but if you have a doctor, you can ask.

> Also you mention that you give B50, what is B50, can you point me

in the direction of finding out more about what B50 is.

It is a supplement that has 50mg or mcg [depending on the B vitamin]

of almost all the Bs. I buy mine at my local health food store.

Dana

[Guest guest]

>

> Following up to my last post, I wonder if weight problems that

began at toddler age (I

> remember being overweight at three) are connected wtih metals

poisoning, as boderline

> Asperger's traits I've had a lifetime were also beginning or in

place by then.

Like another poster, this thread has struck a nerve with me. My two

younger children are like this. Unlike the rest of us, who become

too thin.

My migraine girl was underweight, imo - drs " ok " w/weight, until

after she was 7-8mos or so. Then seemed to gain weight too fast, and

acquired her belly by the time she was two. My older son was gangly

until 3rd grade. In 4th, he suddenly put on weight & been had

this " type " of body since. Striking to me, is that 4th grade is the

year following the 3rd slew of shots for my older kids...

Hmmmm...these are also the two kids who have alot of issues, but do

not have the autistic/add issues.

I also think of fat cells as protective in nature, and have

definitely felt the yucky effects of losing weight in the past, that

I think is related to free-floating toxins.

I am chelating

> hoping to reduce mild forms of nearly all the problems my daughter

has in megadoses, but is

> failure to regulate eating - stop when full, sense gut fullness -

as well as other eating issues

Took me awhile to realize my migraine girl doesn't know she is hungry

& does not associate feeling hungry with food. She was a little over

two, and eating more real food, but not " asking " for food - very

unusual at my house. Looking back, makes sense, as she was dealing

with so many other things, incld'g constant headaches & no sleep,

but so not limited to...ugh.

I did have " a " moment when I was overweight & can definitely link it

to a time period when I was acutely exposed to pesticides, most

likely mercury based, from the research I have done. Can't prove it,

but is what I think. I didn't lose that weight (tried) until I was

having a rather hectic life a couple years later.

fwiw,

wishing all good answers,

elizabeth

> (addiction to certain allergenic foods, obsessive compulsive

tendencies that make it difficult

> to stop doing something when it's no longer serving you including

eating, sensory craving

> including oral, etc.) can be reduced through chelation? The

borderline hypothyroid I

> understand is helped, but has anyone felt less pressure to overeat

as chelation progresses?

>

> I am taking just oral ALA at this point at 25 mg/dose, will try

upping to perhaps the 50mg

> size as they aren't easy to find at lower doses. I currently cut

Vit. Shoppe 50mg tablet in half.

> My ideal reasonable weight is approx 130 pounds, but I'm about 50

pounds over that, and I

> know a lot of the barriers to weight loss are due to a screeching

ASD child that can't really

> cooperate in exercise, improved diet, etc. but a lot of the problem

was already there when

> she came.

>

> One other doctor I have says she thinks my adrenals are stressed in

addition to or more than

> the thyroid and thinks detoxing of some kind will improve function

of both, but I launched

> into Cutler Chelation first as I was already set up and helping my

child anyway. I figured I'd

> get to her detox sold by Standard Process corporation once I

finished with the metals.

>

[Guest guest]

Oh, and when you do start losing it, watch your zinc levels!!! I really believe

now that when I started running in college and dropping weight, I mobilized

mercury and my zinc got out of whack, hence leading to OCD-type stuff. (Of

course, you have to be obsessively organized in college anyway, LOL!)

I remember wanting to eat things that were burned, something that did not create

good friendships with those who had to smell my burned popcorn!

Barb

[ ] Re: Mercury & Toxic Metals and Weight Gain -

connections?

>

> Following up to my last post, I wonder if weight problems that

began at toddler age (I

> remember being overweight at three) are connected wtih metals

poisoning, as boderline

> Asperger's traits I've had a lifetime were also beginning or in

place by then.

Like another poster, this thread has struck a nerve with me. My two

younger children are like this. Unlike the rest of us, who become

too thin.

My migraine girl was underweight, imo - drs " ok " w/weight, until

after she was 7-8mos or so. Then seemed to gain weight too fast, and

acquired her belly by the time she was two. My older son was gangly

until 3rd grade. In 4th, he suddenly put on weight & been had

this " type " of body since. Striking to me, is that 4th grade is the

year following the 3rd slew of shots for my older kids...

Hmmmm...these are also the two kids who have alot of issues, but do

not have the autistic/add issues.

I also think of fat cells as protective in nature, and have

definitely felt the yucky effects of losing weight in the past, that

I think is related to free-floating toxins.

I am chelating

> hoping to reduce mild forms of nearly all the problems my daughter

has in megadoses, but is

> failure to regulate eating - stop when full, sense gut fullness -

as well as other eating issues

Took me awhile to realize my migraine girl doesn't know she is hungry

& does not associate feeling hungry with food. She was a little over

two, and eating more real food, but not " asking " for food - very

unusual at my house. Looking back, makes sense, as she was dealing

with so many other things, incld'g constant headaches & no sleep,

but so not limited to...ugh.

I did have " a " moment when I was overweight & can definitely link it

to a time period when I was acutely exposed to pesticides, most

likely mercury based, from the research I have done. Can't prove it,

but is what I think. I didn't lose that weight (tried) until I was

having a rather hectic life a couple years later.

fwiw,

wishing all good answers,

elizabeth

> (addiction to certain allergenic foods, obsessive compulsive

tendencies that make it difficult

> to stop doing something when it's no longer serving you including

eating, sensory craving

> including oral, etc.) can be reduced through chelation? The

borderline hypothyroid I

> understand is helped, but has anyone felt less pressure to overeat

as chelation progresses?

>

> I am taking just oral ALA at this point at 25 mg/dose, will try

upping to perhaps the 50mg

> size as they aren't easy to find at lower doses. I currently cut

Vit. Shoppe 50mg tablet in half.

> My ideal reasonable weight is approx 130 pounds, but I'm about 50

pounds over that, and I

> know a lot of the barriers to weight loss are due to a screeching

ASD child that can't really

> cooperate in exercise, improved diet, etc. but a lot of the problem

was already there when

> she came.

>

> One other doctor I have says she thinks my adrenals are stressed in

addition to or more than

> the thyroid and thinks detoxing of some kind will improve function

of both, but I launched

> into Cutler Chelation first as I was already set up and helping my

child anyway. I figured I'd

> get to her detox sold by Standard Process corporation once I

finished with the metals.

>

[Guest guest]

Dana, thank you for the information you gave.

Can you give me the name brand of the B50 as I've got a relative visiting the

US at the moment and I can ask them to bring me back the supplement on their

return. I've not heard of B50 in the UK, unless its called something else.

TIA

danasview <danasview@...> wrote:

> Dana

> How did you go about finding out about your #2 son having problems

with mitochondrial dysfunction (improper fat digestion).

Any time I gave him any fats, he became mean and aggressive.

Researching this led to mito cocktail, which worked very well for my

son. He did need preloading. I wrote about it here

http://www.danasview.net/mar05.htm

>>My daughter for her age is over weight, she does not have a thyroid

problem (had this checked out twice by DAN). I do not consider her

weight problem to be associated with food, and this thread has struck

a cord with me. Maybe my daughter has this mitochondrial dysfunction.

My youngest is age 8, and has a very big belly that is unrelated to

food or yeast. Giving her mito supplements has reduced the belly

somewhat. I have only been doing this protocol for her for a month or

so, so she still has a ways to go.

My #1 is a skinny bean pole. Giving him mito cocktail has helped make

him look less like a skeleton.

> How do I go about finding out more about this condition (ie: blood

tests etc).

I don't know about testing, but if you have a doctor, you can ask.

> Also you mention that you give B50, what is B50, can you point me

in the direction of finding out more about what B50 is.

It is a supplement that has 50mg or mcg [depending on the B vitamin]

of almost all the Bs. I buy mine at my local health food store.

Dana

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[Guest guest]

> Dana, thank you for the information you gave.

> Can you give me the name brand of the B50

I use Henry's brand altho I have seen several other brands at the

health food store.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Thanks Dana

I managed to find some B-Complex here in the uk.

Going to try it out on my daughter tomorrow.

danasview <danasview@...> wrote:

> Dana, thank you for the information you gave.

> Can you give me the name brand of the B50

I use Henry's brand altho I have seen several other brands at the

health food store.

Dana

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