Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 What supplements is he getting in the evening? Sometimes moving some of those earlier in the day makes a difference. Also no caffeine after 3 pm (if at all). S S --- On Wed 02/07, markautismcharge < <p>Anybody have any recommendations for supplements to STAY asleep? He <br> has no problem falling asleep but many nights he is up and ready to go <br> after just 5 hours of sleep.<br> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Right now he gets 3mcg of meletonin and a 1 capsule of Kirkman lab Magnesium Glycinate about 1 hr to 1/2 hour before bed. We started NN EPA on Saturday but the sleep issue has been going on for weeks. I thought about trying the calcium\magnesium combo. I think there is an Ionic cal\mag supplement that is suppose to work well. > > > What supplements is he getting in the evening? Sometimes moving some of those earlier in the day makes a difference. Also no caffeine after 3 pm (if at all). > S S > > > --- On Wed 02/07, markautismcharge < <p>Anybody have any recommendations for supplements to STAY asleep? He <br> > has no problem falling asleep but many nights he is up and ready to go <br> > after just 5 hours of sleep.<br> > > > _______________________________________________ > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > The most personalized portal on the Web! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Try stopping his molybdenum! My son was waking up at 4 or 5 am..even with melatonin. We took him off his Molybdenum and the problem resolved in a few days. It seems he is not needing it anymore. Also, no b comlex later in the evening, you can also try time release melatonin. Andy suggested that when I posted about my son waking so early. But for us we crush it..so I didn't see the time release still working if you crush it. so instead after talking with another mom whose son began waking up after they started Moly..we gave it a shot... > > > > > > What supplements is he getting in the evening? Sometimes moving > some of those earlier in the day makes a difference. Also no > caffeine after 3 pm (if at all). > > S S > > > > > > --- On Wed 02/07, markautismcharge < <p>Anybody have > any recommendations for supplements to STAY asleep? He <br> > > has no problem falling asleep but many nights he is up and ready > to go <br> > > after just 5 hours of sleep.<br> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > > The most personalized portal on the Web! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 molybdenum?? A transition metal? He is not takig this unless he is sneeking out at night and hanging out at a steel factory. > > > > > > > > > What supplements is he getting in the evening? Sometimes moving > > some of those earlier in the day makes a difference. Also no > > caffeine after 3 pm (if at all). > > > S S > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed 02/07, markautismcharge < <p>Anybody > have > > any recommendations for supplements to STAY asleep? He <br> > > > has no problem falling asleep but many nights he is up and ready > > to go <br> > > > after just 5 hours of sleep.<br> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > > > The most personalized portal on the Web! > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Sorry was just a suggestion, as most people who are chelating are using it as per the requirement for mineral replacement. > > > > > > > > > > > > What supplements is he getting in the evening? Sometimes > moving > > > some of those earlier in the day makes a difference. Also no > > > caffeine after 3 pm (if at all). > > > > S S > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed 02/07, markautismcharge < <p>Anybody > > have > > > any recommendations for supplements to STAY asleep? He <br> > > > > has no problem falling asleep but many nights he is up and > ready > > > to go <br> > > > > after just 5 hours of sleep.<br> > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > > > > The most personalized portal on the Web! > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Also it's a mineral. > > > > > > > > > > > > What supplements is he getting in the evening? Sometimes > moving > > > some of those earlier in the day makes a difference. Also no > > > caffeine after 3 pm (if at all). > > > > S S > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed 02/07, markautismcharge < <p>Anybody > > have > > > any recommendations for supplements to STAY asleep? He <br> > > > > has no problem falling asleep but many nights he is up and > ready > > > to go <br> > > > > after just 5 hours of sleep.<br> > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > > > > The most personalized portal on the Web! > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 > > Anybody have any recommendations for supplements to STAY asleep? He > has no problem falling asleep but many nights he is up and ready to go > after just 5 hours of sleep. > I have had a lot of trouble with sleep over the years - falling asleep, staying asleep, waking too early. Low blood sugar can cause early waking - maybe he needs adrenal support, ie adrenal cortex extract. Adrenal support has been more effective than anything else I have done to improve duration and quality of sleep. One thing that I don't hear discussed with these kids is Seriphos (phosphorylated serine). This helps me when the problem is high cortisol at night, which can cause difficulty falling asleep, early or repeated waking, or some of each. Energetic therapies like acupuncture/acupressure or homeopathy can be helpful with sleep issues. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Try using Melatonin, give l or 2 depending on what is needed. Also try Epsom salt baths at night with l cup Epsom salts along with 1 cup baking soda.. Soak for at least 20 minutes if possible.. Use this time for storytime, talking, fingerplays, flash cards, etc. will calm the child or teenager down before bedtime, you are trying to create a sauna effect and will help release toxins from the body also. this really works. Corinne _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 8:09 PM Subject: [ ] Re: Supplements to stay asleep > > Anybody have any recommendations for supplements to STAY asleep? He > has no problem falling asleep but many nights he is up and ready to go > after just 5 hours of sleep. > I have had a lot of trouble with sleep over the years - falling asleep, staying asleep, waking too early. Low blood sugar can cause early waking - maybe he needs adrenal support, ie adrenal cortex extract. Adrenal support has been more effective than anything else I have done to improve duration and quality of sleep. One thing that I don't hear discussed with these kids is Seriphos (phosphorylated serine). This helps me when the problem is high cortisol at night, which can cause difficulty falling asleep, early or repeated waking, or some of each. Energetic therapies like acupuncture/acupressure or homeopathy can be helpful with sleep issues. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 Before you add something, I would take a good look at what you are currently using to see if you can remove or alter a current supplement. I know this has already been said; just emphasing it! In my experience, night waking was due to a problem *I* created with a supplement. Has this been going on forever? A few weeks? That might mean a lot. How old? Does he crash during the day now; needing naps? Pam > > Anybody have any recommendations for supplements to STAY asleep? He > has no problem falling asleep but many nights he is up and ready to go > after just 5 hours of sleep. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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