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> Anybody able to explain this, remedies? Digestion (of complex

carbs, in particular) often seems to require all my body's energy,

leaving little circulation available for my hands and feet, and making

me want to sleep/hibernate. I'm taking HNI digestive enzymes.

Which foods, specifically, cause this problem?

Might also be something with amino acids, at least that is what came

to mind.

Dana

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It seems to vary but usually occurs after a meal containing brown rice, though

not all meals containing brown rice cause this. We're vegan and I'm gf, so we

eat a fair amount of brown rice. The most recent obvious occurance (sp?) was a

meal of brown (Jasmine) rice, broccoli, adzuki beans, various spices, and

orange-ade (watered down orange juice). It used to happen much more often than

it does now, generally more often with a rice-based meal than the millet-based

ones.

S S

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> Anybody able to explain this, remedies? Digestion (of complex<br>

carbs, in particular) often seems to require all my body's energy,<br>

leaving little circulation available for my hands and feet, and making<br>

me want to sleep/hibernate. I'm taking HNI digestive enzymes.<br>

<br>

Which foods, specifically, cause this problem?<br>

<br>

Might also be something with amino acids, at least that is what came<br>

to mind.<br>

<br>

Dana<br>

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> It seems to vary but usually occurs after a meal containing brown

rice, though not all meals containing brown rice cause this. We're

vegan and I'm gf, so we eat a fair amount of brown rice. The most

recent obvious occurance (sp?) was a meal of brown (Jasmine) rice,

broccoli, adzuki beans, various spices, and orange-ade (watered down

orange juice). It used to happen much more often than it does now,

generally more often with a rice-based meal than the millet-based ones.

Well, I can give you my experience, see if it might apply to you.

In the beginning, I thought my son did okay with white rice but not

brown or any other variety of rice. I learned later that he did not

tolerate rice at all. I removed rice and corn for a week, then added

back each one individually. Both of them caused major wild hyper,

basically manic giggling, sleep issues, very spacy and no attention

span, etc.

Enzymes did not help this problem. Only ALA chelation plus a few

supplements helped.

My son also did not tolerate anything orange or green until the end of

ALA chelation plus supplements to correct his body's inability to

convert carotenes, so the broccoli and orange juice [especially

oranges and carrots] would have caused major problems. He also did

not do well with spices, altho tolerated a few with No-Fenol enzyme.

Things were MUCH improved when I added back wheat with enzymes.

Good luck.

Dana

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If you feel icky after eating carbs, especially if you suspect an arsenic

problem, you may be

having problems with too much pyruvate and might feel better decreasing the

portion of

calories due to carbs - ultimatlely this is the Atkins diet - and/or taking

biotin 5-10 mg

with meals.

Andy

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Thanks, I am still dealing with arsenic, so perhaps it's a reminder that I need

to keep chelating.

S S

<p>If you feel icky after eating carbs, especially if you suspect an

arsenic problem, you may be <br>

having problems with too much pyruvate and might feel better decreasing the

portion of <br>

calories due to carbs - ultimatlely this is the Atkins diet - and/or taking

biotin 5-10 mg <br>

with meals.<br>

<br>

Andy<br>

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This makes sense when I read about excessive pyruvate. There are several

situations that I've described as feeling like I can't get enough oxygen (to my

lungs or muscles), particularly when bike riding uphill (and feeling of

excessive lactic acid). Recent oximeter readings (both resting and after

exercise) were fine 97% or 98%.

The B complex I'm taking contains biotin, but I've been taking it only in the

morning (and I have the cold, sleepiness most noticably after supper) so I'll

start taking it in the evening as well as morning and see if that helps.

S S

<p>If you feel icky after eating carbs, especially if you suspect an

arsenic problem, you may be <br>

having problems with too much pyruvate and might feel better decreasing the

portion of <br>

calories due to carbs - ultimatlely this is the Atkins diet - and/or taking

biotin 5-10 mg <br>

with meals.<br>

<br>

Andy<br>

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> It seems to vary but usually occurs after a meal containing brown

rice, though not all meals containing brown rice cause this. We're

vegan and I'm gf, so we eat a fair amount of brown rice.

Hi , I am re-posting on this thread from several days ago.

In posting about IP6 for someone today, I was reminded that IP6 is

extracted from rice bran. And IP6 is a demineralizer. And when my

minerals are low, I get really sleepy.

So you might want to increase your minerals, see if that helps.

Dana

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Hi Andy,

Do you have a site that details how arsenic effects pyruvate? I'm

very interested!

Thanks!

-Lana

On 1/7/07, andrewhallcutler <AndyCutler@...> wrote:

> If you feel icky after eating carbs, especially if you suspect an arsenic

problem, you may be

> having problems with too much pyruvate and might feel better decreasing the

portion of

> calories due to carbs - ultimatlely this is the Atkins diet - and/or taking

biotin 5-10 mg

> with meals.

>

> Andy

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, if what Dana is saying about the sleepiness being from phytic

acid (IP6) rings true, you might also try preparing your grains by

soaking/sprouting them first to remove the phytic acid. The website

http://www.westonaprice.org/index.html has lots of information about

this, and the group GFCFNN

GFCFNN/?yguid=198943229

is for people who have modified the Weston A. Price principles for a

GFCF diet.

take care

Rene

> In posting about IP6 for someone today, I was reminded that IP6 is

> extracted from rice bran. And IP6 is a demineralizer. And when my

> minerals are low, I get really sleepy.

>

> So you might want to increase your minerals, see if that helps.

>

> Dana

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We got a dehydrator for Christmas, so we'll be doing more soaking and sprouting

as we use it.

S S

<p>, if what Dana is saying about the sleepiness being from

phytic <br>

acid (IP6) rings true, you might also try preparing your grains by <br>

soaking/sprouting them first to remove the phytic acid. The website <br>

<a

href= " http://www.westonaprice.org/index.html " >http://www.westonap<wbr>rice.org/<\

wbr>index.html</a> has lots of information about <br>

this, and the group GFCFNN <br>

<a

href= " GFCFNN/?yguid=198943229 " >http://healt\

h.<wbr>groups..<wbr>com/group/<wbr>GFCFNN/?yguid=<wbr>198943229</a><br>

is for people who have modified the Weston A. Price principles for a <br>

GFCF diet.<br>

<br>

take care<br>

Rene<br>

<br>

<br>

<br>

> In posting about IP6 for someone today, I was reminded that IP6 is<br>

> extracted from rice bran. And IP6 is a demineralizer. And when my<br>

> minerals are low, I get really sleepy.<br>

> <br>

> So you might want to increase your minerals, see if that helps.<br>

> <br>

> Dana<br>

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Hi Dana,

Thanks. I will keep that in mind.

S S

Hi , I am re-posting on this thread from several days ago.<br>

<br>

In posting about IP6 for someone today, I was reminded that IP6 is<br>

extracted from rice bran. And IP6 is a demineralizer. And when my<br>

minerals are low, I get really sleepy.<br>

<br>

So you might want to increase your minerals, see if that helps.<br>

<br>

Dana<br>

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