Re: Re:Issue with school district dragging their feet........-Ruthie

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Roxanna, again, you are so right !!! <<< if you want something, you have to advocate for it. >>> maybe, more than once, verbally, they in writing. maybe take a few experienced advocates with you... or they won't give you ANYTHING !!!... RoseRoxanna <madideas@...> wrote: The gov't doesn't assign classes and teachers in your school. You might want to look

closer to the problem for some answers. If they have a gifted program, they are legally obligated to let him participate in it. I have an OCR letter I can send you if that is the problem. If you want something to happen, you need to advocate for it or it won't change. RoxannaAutism Happens Re: ( ) Re:Issue with school district dragging their feet........-Ruthie actually yes, they have a gifted program, and believe it or not the state itself added Intellectually gifted as a category for special education. They just dont want to allow anyone in that category. And yes, I do blame the government, and the schools themselves (not the teachers, or at least most of the mind you. They are truly trying to do as much as possible for each child.) In my sons class for example, there is 1 teacher and 1 aid (for a child with significant delay and is physically challenged, as well as for another child with obvious hearing issues (has cochlear

implants)). There are 20 kids. 3 are from other countries and have esl issues. 2 more obvious disabilities (above) several children who have ADD/ADHD, some NT children, and my son. The teacher is wonderful, but has her hands more than full, but the school says, she can handle all of this and give my son extra assignments etc (which has not happened, and yes I have notes that the school wrote) stating they would do this for my son, but would not give him an iep or 504 or anything. Roxanna wrote:> NCLB is not a program meant to be funded. It just tells schools that > they have to actually teach kids to a minimum standard - something > they should have been doing to begin with. It sounds like a big giant > excuse being used to get out of providing appropriate services to kids > - blame it on the gov't or something else besides just planning and > running the

school appropriately. > > You should find out what your state has to say about gifted kids. > Does your school have gifted programming at all?> > Roxanna> Autism Happens>

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Roxanna,

You have wonderful info and are always such a help to everyone. Thank

you. I am not familiar with the OCR letter. Could you please email me

off list at asdmom1@... about this?

As for advocating for him, I am trying and have been for 2 years. And

yes, like everyone else they throw up all kinds of bogus road blocks.

its actually ridiculous trying to do anything with the schools for all

of us. As far as I can find at the moment there are no advocates in my

area with any knowledge of ASD kids that one, I can find and two, are

affordable. Sure there are lawyers etc, but unfortunately I cannot

afford them (already living with mom, searching for a better job, no

father for my kids in the picture etc..). Don't get me wrong I would do

anything in my power for either of my kids. But food on the table and

daily living necessities come first monetarily

Roxanna wrote:

> The gov't doesn't assign classes and teachers in your school. You

> might want to look closer to the problem for some answers.

>

> If they have a gifted program, they are legally obligated to let him

> participate in it. I have an OCR letter I can send you if that is the

> problem.

>

> If you want something to happen, you need to advocate for it or it

> won't change.

>

> Roxanna

> Autism Happens

>

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Washing works again; drying kills 'em----it can't handle the dryer....at least our 's have not---and, we don't seem to catch 'em going in to the washer or the dryer, somehow---of course, who thinks to find a cell phone before washing?? Ruthie

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Subject: RE: ( ) Re:Issue with school district dragging their feet........-Ruthie

My 16 yo heard this.and we tried it after she fell into a river.IT WORKED!!!!!

You place the cell phone in a bowl of cat litter.completely covered..we did it overnight and the next morning her phone was fine.and fine ever since!

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of RoxannaSent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:29 AM Subject: Re: ( ) Re:Issue with school district dragging their feet........-Ruthie

I have actually washed a few of them. Some come out just fine. Others need some "dry time" before they work and then they may never work perfectly afterwards. I guess it depends on the cycle. lol

RoxannaAutism Happens

Re: ( ) Re:Issue with school district dragging their feet........-Ruthie

Ruthie,

that was a Hugh help !!! thanks for posting this. your post is encouraging, especially reading that your son is cooking... that is amazing. you gave me so many more ideas, and I'm going to let my son do even more...(with life skills). I agree with you about the planning...I think I would do better with teaching the life skills as needed, instead of planning them. I also thought about a cooking class for him>> you suggested taking him for a cooking class, and let him do it again at home. *I will do that*..they sometimes have a cooking class at some churches by us..Your post are very inspiring and motivating. especially reading, you starting the home schooling without knowing anything about it or how it will come out, did all the research on it, then tried it and it worked!!! that is awesome. I also like what you said that - everything is a teaching lesson.

I think with our kids, in the beginning, everything they need to learn is a step by step process. then it will become routine, then they won't need all those tiny steps anymore. *** I did all those organization prompts with my son. now, I'm making him write his own notes to help him remember things. He asked, why do I have to write this, can you? I said, its because your getting older now, and you need to learn these skills, so when I'm not with you, and you need to remember something important, you will know how to write them down and put that paper in your pocket so you won't forget. So yesterday, while out, he asked the instructor if he can write down the change in the schedule for the next week.(this is very hard for him to verbalize a need) I was so excited that he finally did that ---first time ever !!!... what an improvement for him....I also let him know how well he did asking the person to write it down so he doesn't forget ...awesome!!!...First he was shown the strategies, then he had to follow them, get into a habit of following them, the routine, applying it, and now progressing. all those steps, just to remember something for the next event.

again, thanks for sharing your experience and progress..I'm ready to start teaching him more things..

your awesome!!

RoseBRYAN DOLEZAL <DOLEZAL123msn> wrote:

We totally fly by the seat of our pants....planning??? I have learned NO PLAN REMAINS IN EFFECT at my house, so I have learned to quit planning much!! Yes, if it is calendared I will be there, perhaps five minutes late, but we are coming!! But, no matter how well we plan, nothing goes as planned. Right now, we make him cook several meals a week; I would love to let you know, the boy CAN cook---he specializes in pastas, and the more things he adds, the better (and it ends up tasting great---)---we really love it----and, he has to follow recipes, too. We do both....and, he still has to plan; even if we have the food, he has to make a list, and then we make him check and make sure we have enough, don't need to buy more, etc.

I do have to tell him steps to most things in life---brush teeth, turn off each and every single light, and on and on and on....., I do not have to do all the safety steps anymore---he DOES know those; he may (like all of us I think) accidentally leave the stove on)---other day, he burnt a measuring cup---then got scared---he did not think he turned the burner on yet---so, he does not cook meals other than microwave something with a set time---when we are NOT home!! Nothing happened, other than a total learning lesson again (we did some research on why it melted, and why it stunk so---etc.....)

So, it is NOT perfect, but he CAN do it; I can see that, cooking with every single step, may be too stressful...how about starting off SMALL, like all the steps to make JELL-O-----start to finish; the more you do it, the more 'rote' it will become. I NEVER IN MY WILDEST DREAMS believed my 14 year old (just 14 in November at that) would be cooking me ANYTHING!!! So, you never know.

Saturday, my husband and I awoke to an aroma---little turkey had made us breakfast at 6-7 a.m.---he woke up and could not sleep, so he made us a complete (and way more than necessary to eat ) breakfast that he served us in bed about 7-----I cried----sooooo, you CAN do it. You never know what can happen, but we have to try.....

We get a waiver for our son; his first meals were done with her, and now he cooks all the time! How about having him go to a class or something, then do it with you? I know our parks and recs have programs like that....or, put an ad in the paper and hire someone a couple hours a week----or something----I have someone that has started taking him swimming on Wednesday's and I am paying her---she is refusing the pay but I still pay---she gives it back---but, I am sooo grateful; he needs this---and, our home schooling is soooooo rewarding for him, and me! I am working right now---it is nap time, my house is peaceful; my son did school work, is now watching an educational video, and has played basketball for 2 hours on a small hoop inside hung up using a pair of balled up socks with two headbands around it as his ball---his creation-----I am happy, and so is he....my daycare is going great now, too---and I think it is because our home life is soooo much better!!!!

Okay, I DO have to give him the steps to get it out, read the recipe (if there IS one), get a pan, some of that....and CLEAN UP---it does overwhelm him---but, I am willing and happy to do it----I CAN yell from the daycare---the next step, when he asks----which I TELL HIM TO DO---and go in there with him again or tell him the next one----I help him or walk him through the clean up (he hates that part)----but we make him finish the job!!!

As for the shopping; I don't give him the money most of the time, honestly; I pay at the end; we make him figure it all, using paper; his tutor makes menus and makes him do all prices, taxes, what percent, all kinds of goodies----she even makes him do fake grocery lists, and figure prices, etc. So, we are working on it, but it is all learning---what we were told, much better learning for our kids (and most) than anything school has to offer....he has to learn history and things, too, but it is when he WANTS to, and it is just more positive......learning is every where; that is what we have to realize; it IS every where!!! We ARE teaching all the time!!

Hope that helps, Rose.....

Ruthie

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What state do you live in?

Here is the link to the OCR letter about 2E kids --> http://www.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/letters/colleague-20071226.html

or try this link --> http://tinyurl.com/2tzzus

I agree it is ridiculous that we have to go through all this just to get an education for our kids.

RoxannaAutism Happens

Re: ( ) Re:Issue with school district dragging their feet........-Ruthie

Roxanna, You have wonderful info and are always such a help to everyone. Thank you. I am not familiar with the OCR letter. Could you please email me off list at asdmom1@... about this? As for advocating for him, I am trying and have been for 2 years. And yes, like everyone else they throw up all kinds of bogus road blocks. its actually ridiculous trying to do anything with the schools for all of us. As far as I can find at the moment there are no advocates in my area with any knowledge of ASD kids that one, I can find and two, are affordable. Sure there are lawyers etc, but unfortunately I cannot afford them (already living with mom, searching for a better job, no father for my kids in the picture etc..). Don't get me wrong I would do anything in my power for either of my kids. But food on the table and daily living necessities come first monetarilyRoxanna wrote:> The gov't doesn't assign classes and teachers in your school. You > might want to look closer to the problem for some answers.> > If they have a gifted program, they are legally obligated to let him > participate in it. I have an OCR letter I can send you if that is the > problem.> > If you want something to happen, you need to advocate for it or it > won't change.> > Roxanna> Autism Happens>