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Oh my Gosh! Are you kidding me??? Sometimes I read these posts and I

can't believe that something like that could really happen.

Just because they tell your son to write a letter, and I am assuming

they gave him those utterly inappropriate words, doesn't mean you have

to condone it. You could have your son write the type of letter that

you think is appropriate, like one where he's not degraded. It is not

your son's ultimate responsibility for leaving the yard, it is THEIRS

for their lack of proper supervision. I would be angry at THEM! I

would be curious as to how old your son is and what state you live in.

Remember, you are the ultimate authority for your child, not them.

Teach your son the values that you think are important and don't let

anyone penalize your child for their disability. Our kids have a hard

enough way to go, they shouldn't be subject to that type of ignorance.

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I have been gone a while and am just jumping right back in.

I have to agree. This is the wrong content for the letter. It is far

too degrading and makes me think there is a problem with self-esteem if

those were your sons words; if they are the schools words, then you

need to have a long talk with the board. Returning the letter he wrote

would just cement his self esteem.

In addition, I would have a talk with the principal if not the school

board. The obviously need to put up a fence if there isn't one already

and provide more supervision. Perhaps the principal should write a

letter apologizing for allowing this to happen in the first place. <1/2

tongue in cheek>

Jim

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> Oh my Gosh! Are you kidding me??? Sometimes I read these posts and I

> can't believe that something like that could really happen.

>

> Just because they tell your son to write a letter, and I am assuming

> they gave him those utterly inappropriate words, doesn't mean you have

> to condone it. You could have your son write the type of letter that

> you think is appropriate, like one where he's not degraded. It is not

> your son's ultimate responsibility for leaving the yard, it is THEIRS

> for their lack of proper supervision. I would be angry at THEM! I

> would be curious as to how old your son is and what state you live in.

>

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Is the school going to ask the bullies to write also a letter? I

really hope they understand that waht your son suffered was bullying.

Good for you fo writting your letter!!!

Have a great day. F

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Thank you to all who took the time to write a note with suggestions

and opinions. In return, from Principal, I received the following

message:

" Thank you for the email. You are likely aware that --- is one of

three students that trespassed and handled personal property

belonging to one of our neighbours. All three students wrote apology

letters. I am confident that --- is remorseful. He is a fine, caring

student and I am sure he will have another great year. "

I am going to leave things as is for the time being, but in the back

of my mind I do hope that the point I was making to the school stands

out: My son - though admittedly is not without responsibility - was,

however, " baited " into an action that was beyond his ability to grasp

and his culpability was not similar in nature to the person whose

intentions were unsavory.

Thanks folks!

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> > Oh my Gosh! Are you kidding me??? Sometimes I read these posts

and I

> > can't believe that something like that could really happen.

> >

> > Just because they tell your son to write a letter, and I am

assuming

> > they gave him those utterly inappropriate words, doesn't mean you

have

> > to condone it. You could have your son write the type of letter

that

> > you think is appropriate, like one where he's not degraded. It

is not

> > your son's ultimate responsibility for leaving the yard, it is

THEIRS

> > for their lack of proper supervision. I would be angry at THEM!

I

> > would be curious as to how old your son is and what state you

live in.

>

> >

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I second that, Jim. RobinJim Wissick <jwissick@...> wrote: I have been gone a while and am just jumping right back in.I have to agree. This is the wrong content for the letter. It is fartoo degrading and makes me think there is a problem with self-esteem ifthose were your sons words; if they are the schools words, then youneed to have a long talk with the board. Returning the letter he wrotewould just cement his self esteem.In addition, I would have a talk with the principal if not the

schoolboard. The obviously need to put up a fence if there isn't one alreadyand provide more supervision. Perhaps the principal should write aletter apologizing for allowing this to happen in the first place. <1/2tongue in cheek>Jim>> Oh my Gosh! Are you kidding me??? Sometimes I read these posts and I> can't believe that something like that could really happen.>> Just because they tell your son to write a letter, and I am assuming> they gave him those utterly inappropriate words, doesn't mean you have> to condone it. You could have your son write the type of letter that> you think is appropriate, like one where he's not degraded. It is not> your son's ultimate responsibility for leaving the yard, it is THEIRS>

for their lack of proper supervision. I would be angry at THEM! I> would be curious as to how old your son is and what state you live in.>

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Was he told WHAT to write? Or were those HIS words? Robintdhssp <johnvel@...> wrote: Thank you to all who took the time to write a note with suggestions and opinions. In return, from Principal, I received the following message:"Thank you for the email. You are likely aware that --- is one of three students that trespassed and handled personal property belonging to one of our neighbours. All three students wrote apology letters. I am confident that --- is remorseful.

He is a fine, caring student and I am sure he will have another great year."I am going to leave things as is for the time being, but in the back of my mind I do hope that the point I was making to the school stands out: My son - though admittedly is not without responsibility - was, however, "baited" into an action that was beyond his ability to grasp and his culpability was not similar in nature to the person whose intentions were unsavory. Thanks folks!> >> > Oh my Gosh! Are you kidding me??? Sometimes I read these posts and I> > can't believe that something like that could really happen.> >> > Just because they tell your son to write a letter, and I am assuming> >

they gave him those utterly inappropriate words, doesn't mean you have> > to condone it. You could have your son write the type of letter that> > you think is appropriate, like one where he's not degraded. It is not> > your son's ultimate responsibility for leaving the yard, it is THEIRS> > for their lack of proper supervision. I would be angry at THEM! I> > would be curious as to how old your son is and what state you live in.> > >>

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I applaud you for telling your son he is not bad. Long ago I

learned to tell a child they made a bad choice, but they are not bad.

With my last child I rephrased this by saying, " I love it when you

make wise choices. The next time (fill in the blank) happens, I know

you will make a wise choice. " In the case of your son I would add, " If

someone is not helping you make a wise choice or if you're not sure

it's a wise choice, come and ask me or another adult "

This approach empowers our children to say to another, " I only make

wise choices " .

This simple sentence gives our children the control they need when

unpleasant situations arise.

Kelley

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I applaud you for telling your son he is not bad. Long ago I

learned to tell a child they made a bad choice, but they are not bad.

With my last child I rephrased this by saying, " I love it when you

make wise choices. The next time (fill in the blank) happens, I know

you will make a wise choice. " In the case of your son I would add, " If

someone is not helping you make a wise choice or if you're not sure

it's a wise choice, come and ask me or another adult "

This approach empowers our children to say to another, " I only make

wise choices " .

This simple sentence gives our children the control they need when

unpleasant situations arise.

Kelley

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Thanks Kelley,

In addition, I asked my son whether at any time he had a feeling

inside his chest telling him it was not wise to go inside the

person's yard. To this he answered, 'yes'. So, I explained, that is

your conscience - sort of God's voice inside your body - warning you

about a bad choice. I told him that the feeling is very smart because

it comes from God and that it is always a good idea to listen to it.

Velvet

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> I applaud you for telling your son he is not bad. Long ago I

> learned to tell a child they made a bad choice, but they are not

bad.

> With my last child I rephrased this by saying, " I love it when you

> make wise choices. The next time (fill in the blank) happens, I

know

> you will make a wise choice. " In the case of your son I would

add, " If

> someone is not helping you make a wise choice or if you're not sure

> it's a wise choice, come and ask me or another adult "

> This approach empowers our children to say to another, " I only

make

> wise choices " .

> This simple sentence gives our children the control they need

when

> unpleasant situations arise.

>

>

> Kelley

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Sadly, those were his own words... I think he was attempting in his

own way to make amends for a slight that was beyond his grasp and by

appologizing profusely, was covering all bases for that which he did

not understand. (Poor guy!)

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> > > Oh my Gosh! Are you kidding me??? Sometimes I read these posts

> and I

> > > can't believe that something like that could really happen.

> > >

> > > Just because they tell your son to write a letter, and I am

> assuming

> > > they gave him those utterly inappropriate words, doesn't mean

you

> have

> > > to condone it. You could have your son write the type of letter

> that

> > > you think is appropriate, like one where he's not degraded. It

> is not

> > > your son's ultimate responsibility for leaving the yard, it is

> THEIRS

> > > for their lack of proper supervision. I would be angry at THEM!

> I

> > > would be curious as to how old your son is and what state you

> live in.

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I was wondering, because my son can get overly sorry.....like that at times, too. Kind of goes with his personality. Not that he doesn't have self-esteem. Just that he doesn't 'get' the correct social response all the time. Has he moved on better than you from all this? Robintdhssp <johnvel@...> wrote: Sadly, those were his own words... I think he was attempting in his own way to make amends for a slight that was beyond his grasp and by appologizing profusely, was covering all

bases for that which he did not understand. (Poor guy!)> > >> > > Oh my Gosh! Are you kidding me??? Sometimes I read these posts > and I> > > can't believe that something like that could really happen.> >

>> > > Just because they tell your son to write a letter, and I am > assuming> > > they gave him those utterly inappropriate words, doesn't mean you > have> > > to condone it. You could have your son write the type of letter > that> > > you think is appropriate, like one where he's not degraded. It > is not> > > your son's ultimate responsibility for leaving the yard, it is > THEIRS> > > for their lack of proper supervision. I would be angry at THEM! > I> > > would be curious as to how old your son is and what state you > live in.> > > > >> >> > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows.> Answers - Check it

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Um hum, my son is very sweet and does not hold on to grudges

whatsoever. He is a kindly soul. I do, however, sometimes worry about

his self-esteem and how he will do later on in life. So far, it has

been a good start to the new school year and for the first time, he

has had a couple of people over and actually went to another boy's

house yesterday as well. : )

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> > > > Oh my Gosh! Are you kidding me??? Sometimes I read these

posts

> > and I

> > > > can't believe that something like that could really happen.

> > > >

> > > > Just because they tell your son to write a letter, and I am

> > assuming

> > > > they gave him those utterly inappropriate words, doesn't mean

> you

> > have

> > > > to condone it. You could have your son write the type of

letter

> > that

> > > > you think is appropriate, like one where he's not degraded.

It

> > is not

> > > > your son's ultimate responsibility for leaving the yard, it

is

> > THEIRS

> > > > for their lack of proper supervision. I would be angry at

THEM!

> > I

> > > > would be curious as to how old your son is and what state you

> > live in.

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Yay for your son!!!! Isn't that an incredible feeling? Robintdhssp <johnvel@...> wrote: Um hum, my son is very sweet and does not hold on to grudges whatsoever. He is a kindly soul. I do, however, sometimes worry about his self-esteem and how he will do later on in life. So far, it has been a good start to the new school year and for the first time, he has had a couple of people over and actually went to another boy's house yesterday as well. : )> > > >> > > > Oh my Gosh! Are you kidding me??? Sometimes I read

these posts > > and I> > > > can't believe that something like that could really happen.> > > >> > > > Just because they tell your son to write a letter, and I am > > assuming> > > > they gave him those utterly inappropriate words, doesn't mean > you > > have> > > > to condone it. You could have your son write the type of letter > > that> > > > you think is appropriate, like one where he's not degraded. It > > is not> > > > your son's ultimate responsibility for leaving the yard, it is > > THEIRS> > > > for their lack of proper supervision. I would be angry at THEM! > > I> > > > would be curious as to how old your son is and what state you > > live in.> > > > > > >> > >> >

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