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Betty, it sounds like to me that she is poison for him and he would be better off without seeing her at all until she grows up, quits being so selfish, and telling him those things, how immature and sick is that? This is his bio mom telling him that if he doesn't quit obsessing over you he will be a psychopath and killer? Is this supposed to be GOOD for him. Man, I'm so sorry your sweet grandson has to be with people like that... Toni

( ) Wanting to come home..

said he wanted to come home after he spent 7 days with his mother,a boyfriend & two siblings & 3 days before that with he was with dad,step mom & two other siblings. He said she was so mad at him saying that he shouldn't obsess on his grandmother (me) that is what makes a Psycho-Path & a Killer. Is she an ass! I'd like to tell her off but the next time she has Jon it will get nasty because he told me what she said. I can't wait for us to see 's Psychiatrist next week. does have anxiety issues & is on Medication for that. Grrrrrrr! I can spit nails right now. Betty

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Toni, yes that is his Bio Mother. She is Bipolar also & then some. He stayed to long & when he wanted to come home (his & our home) she got mad because she doesn't want him to love me over her. As sick as it all is, wants to go, he is 15yrs old. He knows she hs problems & thank God always tells me what went on there. A psych told me to send him if he wants to go. It also says this on the custody paper. Betty Toni <kbtoni@...> wrote:

Betty, it sounds like to me that she is poison for him and he would be better off without seeing her at all until she grows up, quits being so selfish, and telling him those things, how immature and sick is that? This is his bio mom telling him that if he doesn't quit obsessing over you he will be a psychopath and killer? Is this supposed to be GOOD for him. Man, I'm so sorry your sweet grandson has to be with people like that... Toni ( ) Wanting to come home.. said he wanted to come home after he spent 7 days with his mother,a boyfriend & two siblings & 3 days before that with he was with dad,step mom & two other siblings. He said she was so mad at him saying that he shouldn't obsess on his grandmother (me) that is what makes a Psycho-Path & a Killer. Is she an ass! I'd like to tell her off but the next time she has Jon it will get nasty because he told me what she said. I can't wait for us to see 's Psychiatrist next week. does have anxiety issues & is on Medication for that. Grrrrrrr! I can spit nails right now. Betty

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well, having kept foster kids I know they love their parents no matter how sick or mean they are, which is understandable. I'm glad he has you for stability when the Christmas vacation is over. Toni

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said he wanted to come home after he spent 7 days with his mother,a boyfriend & two siblings & 3 days before that with he was with dad,step mom & two other siblings. He said she was so mad at him saying that he shouldn't obsess on his grandmother (me) that is what makes a Psycho-Path & a Killer. Is she an ass! I'd like to tell her off but the next time she has Jon it will get nasty because he told me what she said. I can't wait for us to see 's Psychiatrist next week. does have anxiety issues & is on Medication for that. Grrrrrrr! I can spit nails right now. Betty

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Exactly, they all want to be accepted by their natural parents no matter how screwed up they are or how screwed up they make their kids. feel. Thanks,Betty Toni <kbtoni@...> wrote: well, having kept foster kids I know they love their parents no matter how sick or mean they are, which is understandable. I'm glad he has you for stability when the Christmas vacation is over.

Toni ( ) Wanting to come home.. said he wanted to come home after he spent 7 days with his mother,a boyfriend & two siblings & 3 days before that with he was with dad,step mom & two other siblings. He said she was so mad at him saying that he shouldn't obsess on his grandmother (me) that is what makes a Psycho-Path & a Killer. Is she an ass! I'd like to tell her off

but the next time she has Jon it will get nasty because he told me what she said. I can't wait for us to see 's Psychiatrist next week. does have anxiety issues & is on Medication for that. Grrrrrrr! I can spit nails right now. Betty Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search.

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Obviously, she is so jealous she has to bad mouth you in order to feel better about herself. She does not sound stable at all. Does "like" going to visit her or does he "have" to visit her?

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said he wanted to come home after he spent 7 days with his mother,a boyfriend & two siblings & 3 days before that with he was with dad,step mom & two other siblings. He said she was so mad at him saying that he shouldn't obsess on his grandmother (me) that is what makes a Psycho-Path & a Killer. Is she an ass! I'd like to tell her off but the next time she has Jon it will get nasty because he told me what she said. I can't wait for us to see 's Psychiatrist next week. does have anxiety issues & is on Medication for that. Grrrrrrr! I can spit nails right now. Betty

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Maybe you can limit his visits to shorter ones next time? Then he can still visit her but not have to stay so long that he gets upset??

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said he wanted to come home after he spent 7 days with his mother,a boyfriend & two siblings & 3 days before that with he was with dad,step mom & two other siblings. He said she was so mad at him saying that he shouldn't obsess on his grandmother (me) that is what makes a Psycho-Path & a Killer. Is she an ass! I'd like to tell her off but the next time she has Jon it will get nasty because he told me what she said. I can't wait for us to see 's Psychiatrist next week. does have anxiety issues & is on Medication for that. Grrrrrrr! I can spit nails right now. Betty

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Oh Yes there is going to be a limit to her visits...if he even wants to go next time. She is a real gem indeed. Betty Roxanna <madideas@...> wrote: Maybe you can limit his visits to shorter ones next time? Then he can still visit her but not have to stay so long that he gets upset?? RoxannaAutism Happens ( ) Wanting to come home.. said he wanted to come home after he spent 7 days with his mother,a boyfriend & two siblings & 3 days before that with he was with dad,step mom & two other siblings. He said she was so mad at him saying that he shouldn't obsess on his grandmother (me) that is what makes a Psycho-Path & a Killer. Is she an ass! I'd like to tell her off but the next time she has Jon it will get nasty because he told me what she said. I can't wait for us to see 's Psychiatrist next week. does have anxiety issues & is on Medication for that. Grrrrrrr! I can spit nails right now. Betty Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.

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Yes he wants to go most of the time & no he doesn't have to.thank God. She bad mouthed me & Jon's father & even Jon's uncle & Jon's new Psych. She gave him $100 for Game Stop but had him buy games for the Play Station 2 saying he was going to be at her house for a few days & needed to play them at her house saying he hass a Play Station here at home too. NOT having him buy Wii games for the Wii that we bought him for Christmas & I swear she did it deliberately just to be in control. We are taking them all back to Game Stop & trading them in for Wii games. Won't get much for them but whatever. She really p'd me off this time! Betty Roxanna <madideas@...> wrote: Obviously, she is so jealous she has to bad mouth you in order to feel better about herself. She does not sound stable at all. Does "like" going to visit her or does he "have" to visit her? RoxannaAutism Happens ( ) Wanting to come home.. said he wanted to come home after he spent 7 days with his mother,a boyfriend & two siblings & 3 days before that with he was with dad,step mom & two other siblings. He said she was so mad at him saying that he shouldn't obsess on his grandmother (me) that is what makes a Psycho-Path & a Killer. Is she an ass! I'd like to tell her off but the next time she has Jon it will get nasty because he told me what she said. I can't wait for us to see 's Psychiatrist next week. does have anxiety issues & is on Medication for that.

Grrrrrrr! I can spit nails right now. Betty

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Wow, she is a piece of work! I hope you can get something decent back on the games - at least get one nice Wii game out of the deal.

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said he wanted to come home after he spent 7 days with his mother,a boyfriend & two siblings & 3 days before that with he was with dad,step mom & two other siblings. He said she was so mad at him saying that he shouldn't obsess on his grandmother (me) that is what makes a Psycho-Path & a Killer. Is she an ass! I'd like to tell her off but the next time she has Jon it will get nasty because he told me what she said. I can't wait for us to see 's Psychiatrist next week. does have anxiety issues & is on Medication for that. Grrrrrrr! I can spit nails right now. Betty

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That is true. 's dad abandoned us when she was 9 months old. He is currently living in Florida. He is a drunk, can't hold a job. He's been married three times so far. He fights me on the child support - he owes us more than $38K. He is claiming that he is in the end stages of congestive heart failure and he is in hospice care. He is just 44. But 's dream was to be successful so that she can show him that she didn't need him in her life. But if he dies, she won't be able to do that.

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Exactly, they all want to be accepted by their natural parents no matter how screwed up they are or how screwed up they make their kids. feel.

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Thanks Chris. No he doesn't hear us bad rapping his mother or that side of his family. Although I would love to lay into her but I know will get the end of it from her. His other Grandmother said if he loves me that much then maybe he should stay home. Isn't that special? The other grandmother has to jump in also & I'm sure they all were adding in their 2-10 cents. His siblings & mom's live in boyfriend too. Take care,Betty <cmcintosh5@...> wrote: I swear some people need to love their kids more than they hate their x's and inlaws .. If I had five minutes with her. She'd get more than a piece of my mind Have faith though Hon. He knows who loves him ... Regardless of her tactics. She will soon reap what she has sewn. Don't ever bad mouth her.. In front of him ( I am sure you wouldn't.. Venting here is much different I know LOL I could blister paint over my daughters father LOL But she never hears it.) Then he will know exactly

who has his best interest at heart. -- Re: ( ) Wanting to come home.. Yeah & she had the nerve to call last night at midnight. I just let it ring off the hook. She is an ass!Roxanna <madideaszoominternet (DOT) net>

wrote: Wow, she is a piece of work! I hope you can get something decent back on the games - at least get one nice Wii game out of the deal. & nbs p; RoxannaAutism Happens ( ) Wanting to come home.. said he wanted to come home after

he spent 7 days with his mother,a boyfriend & two siblings & 3 days before that with he was with dad,step mom & two other siblings. He said she was so mad at him saying that he shouldn't obsess on his grandmother (me) that is what makes a Psycho-Path & a Killer. Is she an ass! I'd like to tell her off but the next time she has Jon it will get nasty because he told me what she said. I can't wait for us to see 's Psychiatrist next week. does have anxiety issues & is on Medication for that. Grrrrrrr! I can spit nails right now. Betty Looking for last minut e shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

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Thanks you've made our day! They're all so dysfunctional down there, the mom,the grandma, 2aunts, the uncle,her boyfriend & 2 half siblings. Even the 2 dogs are nuts.! Betty <cmcintosh5@...> wrote: OH man what a mess EH? YUP Other grandma is jealous too! Obviously she raised A "wonderful" mom herself LOL ~ Throwing stones in those glass houses are so dangerous arent they?I just wish all aspie/autistic kids had grandparents like you guys! -- Re: ( ) Wanting to come home.. Yeah & she had the nerve to call last night at midnight. I just let it ring off the hook. She is an ass!Roxanna

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First, I want you to know that it sounds like the mother is pond scum. That being said.....URGH at best, but you know what, you cannot control what they say, but you can control your response and reactions to it; I would just move on, and talk positively about his mom, period, period, period. Help him to look forward to seeing her, and he will, aspies or NOT, form his very own opinions, and love and respect you even more for it. Whatever YOU do, make SAFE choices and decisions though, for him; like not sending the Wii!! Send clothing they love (or you do not care if you get back or see ever again, if that is the case---I used to buy new clearance clothing and it was cheap, but he looked great----that way, I was representing ME, and the way I am, but not mad when I did not get back the $30 outfit I REALLY went all out on (yes, we are clearance shoppers anyway)....the point is, you will prevail, and if you are religious, go to the BIBLE----SOLOMON is a great story-----you just cannot pull the kiddo---he LIVES with you, and until the court feels differently (which does not sound like an issue)---he lives with you; you are his hero, security, safety, and stability, and, at 15, by GOD, he can CALL to come home, you go get him, if they don't let him, you call the police (and I would get an order---which I think you said you already have one that says that he can come home if he wants or not go if he does not want to)-----but you should promote it, 'cuz, if you were the mom, can you imagine how you would feel???? I have been the mom sharing custody, and felt like you, but I was one of the few parents that actually bit my tongue, and talked positively while they bashed me; my son still hates them, as he knew they were saying lies about me (he knew ME, and HOW I WAS-----and he still hates that they never liked me)----so, for kids sakes, it is best to be grateful she gave him LIFE, and that she loves him soooooo much that you are being allowed the opportunity to be his 'mom.' (grandma, but his mom!!!!)------just a different perspective; and something to think about when you are done being mad!!!!

I used to tell my son, whom was being molested by his father and we were fighting (including him) to get him out, that I did love his dad, and very much in fact, when we created him; it is a fine line, as he IS part of HIM!!!! (and your son is part of his mother, regardless of WHAT she is or is not-----so, put downs and insults of her, are parts of the child!!!!-----My son's father rights were terminated, and he has not seen him for 8 1/2 years now, my husband adopted him, but I still tell him when we talk about the 'sperm donor,' that he loved him sooooo much, that he knew the best choice for him was for his dad (now) and me to be his full time parents, and he asked dad (now) to please adopt him when we married, and he said he would......now, did he ever love him.....I doubt it, but that is NOT for me to say, but all I care about is my son!!!!! And, we often find the positive parts of him, and help our son to focus on that rather than the bad parts, as he is 1/2 of him!!!

HAPPY NEW YEAR....and that's one to think about......hope you are not angry.....just trying to help, and really help really!!!

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Ruthie thank you for that. I am mad but I can not say to much back to her because she will lay into the next time he goes there. IF he wants to go. He is 15yrs old & he was very hurt by her remark saying that he is obsesses with me so he can turn into a Psycho Path & a Killer. I hate her for that! That is a stupid thing to say & ridiculous. She called last night right after midnight to say Happy New Year but I just let it ring. I do not nor could not talk to her at that time. She called my son (Jon's dad) a drunk & a pothead right to Jon's face. I resent that because he is neither. If he was she doesn't have the right to report it to Jon. The only thing I told Jon was the things she says are not true & I think she is paranoid & needs medication.BRYAN DOLEZAL <DOLEZAL123@...> wrote: First, I want you to know that it sounds like the mother is pond scum. That being said.....URGH at best, but you know what, you cannot control what they say, but you can control your response and reactions to it; I would just move on, and talk positively about his mom, period, period, period. Help him to look forward to seeing her, and he will, aspies or NOT, form his very own opinions, and love and respect you even more for it. Whatever YOU do, make SAFE choices and decisions though, for him; like not sending the Wii!! Send clothing

they love (or you do not care if you get back or see ever again, if that is the case---I used to buy new clearance clothing and it was cheap, but he looked great----that way, I was representing ME, and the way I am, but not mad when I did not get back the $30 outfit I REALLY went all out on (yes, we are clearance shoppers anyway)....the point is, you will prevail, and if you are religious, go to the BIBLE----SOLOMON is a great story-----you just cannot pull the kiddo---he LIVES with you, and until the court feels differently (which does not sound like an issue)---he lives with you; you are his hero, security, safety, and stability, and, at 15, by GOD, he can CALL to come home, you go get him, if they don't let him, you call the police (and I would get an order---which I think you said you already have one that says that he can come home if he wants or not go if he does not want to)-----but you should promote it, 'cuz, if you were the mom, can you imagine how you would

feel???? I have been the mom sharing custody, and felt like you, but I was one of the few parents that actually bit my tongue, and talked positively while they bashed me; my son still hates them, as he knew they were saying lies about me (he knew ME, and HOW I WAS-----and he still hates that they never liked me)----so, for kids sakes, it is best to be grateful she gave him LIFE, and that she loves him soooooo much that you are being allowed the opportunity to be his 'mom.' (grandma, but his mom!!!!)------just a different perspective; and something to think about when you are done being mad!!!! I used to tell my son, whom was being molested by his father and we were fighting (including him) to get him out, that I did love his dad, and very much in fact, when we created him; it is a fine line, as he IS part of HIM!!!! (and your son is part of his mother, regardless of WHAT she is or is not-----so, put downs and insults of her,

are parts of the child!!!!-----My son's father rights were terminated, and he has not seen him for 8 1/2 years now, my husband adopted him, but I still tell him when we talk about the 'sperm donor,' that he loved him sooooo much, that he knew the best choice for him was for his dad (now) and me to be his full time parents, and he asked dad (now) to please adopt him when we married, and he said he would......now, did he ever love him.....I doubt it, but that is NOT for me to say, but all I care about is my son!!!!! And, we often find the positive parts of him, and help our son to focus on that rather than the bad parts, as he is 1/2 of him!!! HAPPY NEW YEAR....and that's one to think about......hope you are not angry.....just trying to help, and really help really!!! Ruthie Dolezal

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I swear some people need to love their kids more than they hate their x's and inlaws

... If I had five minutes with her. She'd get more than a piece of my mind

Have faith though Hon. He knows who loves him ... Regardless of her tactics. She will soon reap what she has sewn. Don't ever bad mouth her.. In front of him ( I am sure you wouldn't.. Venting here is much different I know LOL I could blister paint over my daughters father LOL But she never hears it.)

Then he will know exactly who has his best interest at heart.

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Yeah & she had the nerve to call last night at midnight. I just let it ring off the hook. She is an ass!Roxanna <madideaszoominternet (DOT) net> wrote:

Wow, she is a piece of work! I hope you can get something decent back on the games - at least get one nice Wii game out of the deal.

& nbs p;

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( ) Wanting to come home..

said he wanted to come home after he spent 7 days with his mother,a boyfriend & two siblings & 3 days before that with he was with dad,step mom & two other siblings. He said she was so mad at him saying that he shouldn't obsess on his grandmother (me) that is what makes a Psycho-Path & a Killer. Is she an ass! I'd like to tell her off but the next time she has Jon it will get nasty because he told me what she said. I can't wait for us to see 's Psychiatrist next week. does have anxiety issues & is on Medication for that. Grrrrrrr! I can spit nails right now. Betty

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OH man what a mess EH? YUP Other grandma is jealous too! Obviously she raised

A "wonderful" mom herself LOL ~ Throwing stones in those glass houses are so dangerous arent they?I just wish all aspie/autistic kids had grandparents like you guys!

-- Re: ( ) Wanting to come home..

Yeah & she had the nerve to call last night at midnight. I just let it ring off the hook. She is an ass!Roxanna <madideaszoominternet (DOT) net> wrote:

Wow, she is a piece of work! I hope you can get something decent back on the games - at least get one nice Wii game out of the deal.

& nbs p;

RoxannaAutism Happens

( ) Wanting to come home..

said he wanted to come home after he spent 7 days with his mother,a boyfriend & two siblings & 3 days before that with he was with dad,step mom & two other siblings. He said she was so mad at him saying that he shouldn't obsess on his grandmother (me) that is what makes a Psycho-Path & a Killer. Is she an ass! I'd like to tell her off but the next time she has Jon it will get nasty because he told me what she said. I can't wait for us to see 's Psychiatrist next week. does have a nxiety issues & is on Medication for that. Grrrrrrr! I can spit nails right now. Betty

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Sounds like the real route to go is with a worker (if there is one) and his therapist. As for the calls late at night, and repeatedly, that IS harassment; next time, call the police (that is ridiculous!!!!)----he is 15, and more than once is inappropriate behavior. As for the comments, I agree, I would tell your son that you are disappointed to hear that she is saying things like that to him, EMPATHIZE WITH HIM-----and ask if he has any questions----they are trying to drive you crazy, and are, but it is the therapist I would tell, and be very unemotional about it; that makes you very much more rational and reasonable. I hope that helps!!! And, I agree, sounds like the mom needs some mental health help, at a minimum, that is why I would tell a worker (if one) and the therapist----these are just sick things to be saying, and certainly not appropriate to say to a 15 year old child let alone one with special needs; he must be scared she will act out on these bizarre things.... she sounds dangerous.......

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Ruthie thank you for that. I am mad but I can not say to much back to her because she will lay into the next time he goes there. IF he wants to go. He is 15yrs old & he was very hurt by her remark saying that he is obsesses with me so he can turn into a Psycho Path & a Killer. I hate her for that! That is a stupid thing to say & ridiculous. She called last night right after midnight to say Happy New Year but I just let it ring. I do not nor could not talk to her at that time. She called my son (Jon's dad) a drunk & a pothead right to Jon's face. I resent that because he is neither. If he was she doesn't have the right to report it to Jon. The only thing I told Jon was the things she says are not true & I think she is paranoid & needs medication.BRYAN DOLEZAL <DOLEZAL123msn> wrote:

First, I want you to know that it sounds like the mother is pond scum. That being said.....URGH at best, but you know what, you cannot control what they say, but you can control your response and reactions to it; I would just move on, and talk positively about his mom, period, period, period. Help him to look forward to seeing her, and he will, aspies or NOT, form his very own opinions, and love and respect you even more for it. Whatever YOU do, make SAFE choices and decisions though, for him; like not sending the Wii!! Send clothing they love (or you do not care if you get back or see ever again, if that is the case---I used to buy new clearance clothing and it was cheap, but he looked great----that way, I was representing ME, and the way I am, but not mad when I did not get back the $30 outfit I REALLY went all out on (yes, we are clearance shoppers anyway)....the point is, you will prevail, and if you are religious, go to the BIBLE----SOLOMON is a great story-----you just cannot pull the kiddo---he LIVES with you, and until the court feels differently (which does not sound like an issue)---he lives with you; you are his hero, security, safety, and stability, and, at 15, by GOD, he can CALL to come home, you go get him, if they don't let him, you call the police (and I would get an order---which I think you said you already have one that says that he can come home if he wants or not go if he does not want to)-----but you should promote it, 'cuz, if you were the mom, can you imagine how you would feel???? I have been the mom sharing custody, and felt like you, but I was one of the few parents that actually bit my tongue, and talked positively while they bashed me; my son still hates them, as he knew they were saying lies about me (he knew ME, and HOW I WAS-----and he still hates that they never liked me)----so, for kids sakes, it is best to be grateful she gave him LIFE, and that she loves him soooooo much that you are being allowed the opportunity to be his 'mom.' (grandma, but his mom!!!!)------just a different perspective; and something to think about when you are done being mad!!!!

I used to tell my son, whom was being molested by his father and we were fighting (including him) to get him out, that I did love his dad, and very much in fact, when we created him; it is a fine line, as he IS part of HIM!!!! (and your son is part of his mother, regardless of WHAT she is or is not-----so, put downs and insults of her, are parts of the child!!!!-----My son's father rights were terminated, and he has not seen him for 8 1/2 years now, my husband adopted him, but I still tell him when we talk about the 'sperm donor,' that he loved him sooooo much, that he knew the best choice for him was for his dad (now) and me to be his full time parents, and he asked dad (now) to please adopt him when we married, and he said he would......now, did he ever love him.....I doubt it, but that is NOT for me to say, but all I care about is my son!!!!! And, we often find the positive parts of him, and help our son to focus on that rather than the bad parts, as he is 1/2 of him!!!

HAPPY NEW YEAR....and that's one to think about......hope you are not angry.....just trying to help, and really help really!!!

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I think she wanted to say Happy New Year but I was not in the mood for her BS. We go to his Psych this Thursday at 5pm. said he will tell all. This needs to be documented. Betty BRYAN DOLEZAL <DOLEZAL123@...> wrote: Sounds like the

real route to go is with a worker (if there is one) and his therapist. As for the calls late at night, and repeatedly, that IS harassment; next time, call the police (that is ridiculous!!!!)----he is 15, and more than once is inappropriate behavior. As for the comments, I agree, I would tell your son that you are disappointed to hear that she is saying things like that to him, EMPATHIZE WITH HIM-----and ask if he has any questions----they are trying to drive you crazy, and are, but it is the therapist I would tell, and be very unemotional about it; that makes you very much more rational and reasonable. I hope that helps!!! And, I agree, sounds like the mom needs some mental health help, at a minimum, that is why I would tell a worker (if one) and the therapist----these are just sick things to be saying, and certainly not appropriate to say to a 15 year old child let alone one with special needs; he must be scared she will act out on

these bizarre things.... she sounds dangerous....... Ruthie Dolezal Re: ( ) Wanting to come home.. Ruthie thank you for that. I am mad but I can not say to much back to her because she will lay into the next time he goes there. IF he wants to go. He is 15yrs old & he was

very hurt by her remark saying that he is obsesses with me so he can turn into a Psycho Path & a Killer. I hate her for that! That is a stupid thing to say & ridiculous. She called last night right after midnight to say Happy New Year but I just let it ring. I do not nor could not talk to her at that time. She called my son (Jon's dad) a drunk & a pothead right to Jon's face. I resent that because he is neither. If he was she doesn't have the right to report it to Jon. The only thing I told Jon was the things she says are not true & I think she is paranoid & needs medication.BRYAN DOLEZAL <DOLEZAL123msn> wrote: First, I want you to know that it sounds like the mother is pond scum. That being said.....URGH

at best, but you know what, you cannot control what they say, but you can control your response and reactions to it; I would just move on, and talk positively about his mom, period, period, period. Help him to look forward to seeing her, and he will, aspies or NOT, form his very own opinions, and love and respect you even more for it. Whatever YOU do, make SAFE choices and decisions though, for him; like not sending the Wii!! Send clothing they love (or you do not care if you get back or see ever again, if that is the case---I used to buy new clearance clothing and it was cheap, but he looked great----that way, I was representing ME, and the way I am, but not mad when I did not get back the $30 outfit I REALLY went all out on (yes, we are clearance shoppers anyway)....the point is, you will prevail, and if you are religious, go to the BIBLE----SOLOMON is a great story-----you just cannot pull the kiddo---he LIVES with you, and until the

court feels differently (which does not sound like an issue)---he lives with you; you are his hero, security, safety, and stability, and, at 15, by GOD, he can CALL to come home, you go get him, if they don't let him, you call the police (and I would get an order---which I think you said you already have one that says that he can come home if he wants or not go if he does not want to)-----but you should promote it, 'cuz, if you were the mom, can you imagine how you would feel???? I have been the mom sharing custody, and felt like you, but I was one of the few parents that actually bit my tongue, and talked positively while they bashed me; my son still hates them, as he knew they were saying lies about me (he knew ME, and HOW I WAS-----and he still hates that they never liked me)----so, for kids sakes, it is best to be grateful she gave him LIFE, and that she loves him soooooo much that you are being allowed the opportunity to be his 'mom.' (grandma, but his

mom!!!!)------just a different perspective; and something to think about when you are done being mad!!!! I used to tell my son, whom was being molested by his father and we were fighting (including him) to get him out, that I did love his dad, and very much in fact, when we created him; it is a fine line, as he IS part of HIM!!!! (and your son is part of his mother, regardless of WHAT she is or is not-----so, put downs and insults of her, are parts of the child!!!!-----My son's father rights were terminated, and he has not seen him for 8 1/2 years now, my husband adopted him, but I still tell him when we talk about the 'sperm donor,' that he loved him sooooo much, that he knew the best choice for him was for his dad (now) and me to be his full time parents, and he asked dad (now) to please adopt him when we married, and he said he would......now, did he ever love him.....I doubt it, but that is NOT for me to say, but all I

care about is my son!!!!! And, we often find the positive parts of him, and help our son to focus on that rather than the bad parts, as he is 1/2 of him!!! HAPPY NEW YEAR....and that's one to think about......hope you are not angry.....just trying to help, and really help really!!! Ruthie Dolezal Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

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