Guest guest Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 You're talking to a dietitian. I agree about sodas. Real sodas are reserved for extra special occasions, and even diet sodas are a once in a while food for me & the kids (not for my hubby who is dependent upon them during the day at work--seems to be a programmer thing). I was thinking about maybe trying 8 oz. of diet coke at about 5:30, and she goes to bed at 9:30. Hot tea would be a good option too. She'll probably sleep OK. If not, we'll cut it out. We'd only need to give it to her on the 2 evenings that we get home from work/daycare late--6:00ish--and then she has to try to do homework. The other day that we get home from work late is Friday and she doesn't have any responsibility or pressure, so not much chance of a meltdown, thank goodness. She doesn't have an IEP or 504, so not a chance to have homework modifications or exemptions. She also doesn't want to stand out in any way, so that would make her self-conscious. > > Sorry to be a wet blanket, but having caffeine that late in the day can cause problems falling asleep and staying asleep. Also, it's really not a good idea to give kids sodas on a daily basis in the first place. They are full of sugar and empty calories. There has to be a better way. Sorry Robin > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Good point, ladies. She does love back massages or back scratches. Going straight to a hot shower might help her too. Bummer that these tantrums often happen when I'm trying to get dinner on the table, and help DS with his homework and DH isn't home from work yet. Working out a better work schedule so I could get them home before 5:00 would be the ideal situation...they could have their downtime each afternoon....but easier said than done. > > > > Sorry to be a wet blanket, but having caffeine that late in the day > can cause�problems falling asleep and staying asleep.� > > Actually, it is well known that caffeine has the opposite effect on > many ADHD people that it does on " normal " people, e.g. it calms them > rather than wakes them up. Doctors actually " prescribe " it in some > cases. You may not know that unless you have been around ADHD families. > > Ruth > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Please don’t try diet coke – it is full of aspartame and fake sugars that do more harm than the real stuff!!!!! If you’re going to give her coke, give her the non-diet stuff, better extra sugar than what aspartame does to you. a -----Original Message----- From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of kellypywtorak Sent: 18 February 2009 07:44 To: Subject: Re: ( ) concerta question You're talking to a dietitian. I agree about sodas. Real sodas are reserved for extra special occasions, and even diet sodas are a once in a while food for me & the kids (not for my hubby who is dependent upon them during the day at work--seems to be a programmer thing). I was thinking about maybe trying 8 oz. of diet coke at about 5:30, and she goes to bed at 9:30. Hot tea would be a good option too. She'll probably sleep OK. If not, we'll cut it out. We'd only need to give it to her on the 2 evenings that we get home from work/daycare late--6:00ish--and then she has to try to do homework. The other day that we get home from work late is Friday and she doesn't have any responsibility or pressure, so not much chance of a meltdown, thank goodness. She doesn't have an IEP or 504, so not a chance to have homework modifications or exemptions. She also doesn't want to stand out in any way, so that would make her self-conscious. .. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.25/1956 - Release Date: 02/16/09 18:31:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 I can't recall all of the details of the original email, but why isn't she doing her homework at her daycare? Is there anyway you could talk to the director or teacher there and see if maybe she could get a special area set up so she can get started on her homework there? I remember there being a problem (and my son - now 12 - never did homework when he went to an afterschool program, too much noise, but I didn't know how to advocate for him back then) but thought I'd throw it out there. Do you have a mini-trampoline she could jump on when she first got home? That can help Dylan calm down too. You'll find something that works "Over-optimism is waiting for you ship to come in when you haven't sent one out." From: kellypywtorak <kellypywtorak@...> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 1:51:57 AMSubject: Re: ( ) concerta question Good point, ladies. She does love back massages or back scratches. Going straight to a hot shower might help her too. Bummer that thesetantrums often happen when I'm trying to get dinner on the table, andhelp DS with his homework and DH isn't home from work yet.Working out a better work schedule so I could get them home before5:00 would be the ideal situation... they could have their downtimeeach afternoon... .but easier said than done.> >> > Sorry to be a wet blanket, but having caffeine that late in the day> can cause�problems falling asleep and staying asleep.� > > Actually, it is well known that caffeine has the opposite effect on> many ADHD people that it does on "normal" people, e.g. it calms them> rather than wakes them up. Doctors actually "prescribe" it in some> cases. You may not know that unless you have been around ADHD families.> > Ruth> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 my insurance doesn't cover Concerta, but it's what the Doctor prescribed. Is there a secondary med that anyone knows of? > > > > Hi all, can't seem to get an answer on the ADHD board so I'll ask > here...y'all are a lot more > > helpful. 10 y.o. DD is on concerta 18 mg and needs an increase I'm > sure. Problem is, as it is > > wearing off in the evening she is having some rotten tantrums over > silly stuff.... If we > > increase the dose, is this likely to get worse? > > > > Not eating all day and being famished probably has a little > something to do with it. She is an > > extremely picky eater and since the med dulls her appetite she just > doesn't eat at > > school/daycare. But we're trying to find creative ways to deal > with that on our own. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 I would just tell the doc. I'm sure there are many variations. Good luck.Robin From: michellen702 <michellen702@...>Subject: ( ) Re: concerta question Date: Wednesday, February 18, 2009, 8:49 AM my insurance doesn't cover Concerta, but it's what the Doctor prescribed. Is there a secondary med that anyone knows of?> >> > Hi all, can't seem to get an answer on the ADHD board so I'll ask > here...y'all are a lot more > > helpful. 10 y.o. DD is on concerta 18 mg and needs an increase I'm > sure. Problem is, as it is > > wearing off in the evening she is having some rotten tantrums over > silly stuff.... If we > > increase the dose, is this likely to get worse? > > > > Not eating all day and being famished probably has a little > something to do with it. She is an > > extremely picky eater and since the med dulls her appetite she just > doesn't eat at > > school/daycare. But we're trying to find creative ways to deal > with that on our own.> > > > Thanks in advance,> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 My 6 yr old DD is on 18mg of concerta and risperdal. It seems to be a good combo for her(most days). The risperdal causes an appetite so the concerta counteracts it and gives her a healthy balance. Her concerta was wearing off around 2 so her Dr. tried a short acting ritalin. It seemed to help at first then she got really aggressive when it wore off. Also it seemed to cause her to stay up later than usual. She also takes clonidine at night and the ritalin was causing it to be not effective. We have tried vyvanse,focalin, abilify. So far the concerta is best for her. Tammie > > Hi all, can't seem to get an answer on the ADHD board so I'll ask here...y'all are a lot more > helpful. 10 y.o. DD is on concerta 18 mg and needs an increase I'm sure. Problem is, as it is > wearing off in the evening she is having some rotten tantrums over silly stuff.... If we > increase the dose, is this likely to get worse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Ritalin has a long acting form. It is concerta (same family) Tammie > > > > > > Hi all, can't seem to get an answer on the ADHD board so I'll > ask > > here...y'all are a lot more > > > helpful. 10 y.o. DD is on concerta 18 mg and needs an increase > I'm > > sure. Problem is, as it is > > > wearing off in the evening she is having some rotten tantrums > over > > silly stuff.... If we > > > increase the dose, is this likely to get worse? > > > > > > Not eating all day and being famished probably has a little > > something to do with it. She is an > > > extremely picky eater and since the med dulls her appetite she > just > > doesn't eat at > > > school/daycare. But we're trying to find creative ways to deal > > with that on our own. > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Sorry, I have to disagree with you. You're getting into a controversial subject there. From real scientific studies, there is no evidence that a moderate amount of diet coke does any harm. I don't subscribe to the rumors that circulate on the internet. We're all talking about putting our kids on multiple meds in their lifetime....diet coke is the least of my concerns. > > Please don't try diet coke – it is full of aspartame and fake sugars > that do more harm than the real stuff!!!!! If you're going to give her > coke, give her the non-diet stuff, better extra sugar than what > aspartame does to you. > > a > > Re: ( ) concerta question > > You're talking to a dietitian. I agree about sodas. Real sodas > are reserved for extra special occasions, and even diet sodas are a > once in a while food for me & the kids (not for my hubby who is > dependent upon them during the day at work--seems to be a programmer > thing). I was thinking about maybe trying 8 oz. of diet coke at about > 5:30, and she goes to bed at 9:30. Hot tea would be a good option > too. She'll probably sleep OK. If not, we'll cut it out. We'd only > need to give it to her on the 2 evenings that we get home from > work/daycare late--6:00ish---and then she has to try to do homework. > The other day that we get home from work late is Friday and she > doesn't have any responsibility or pressure, so not much chance of a > meltdown, thank goodness. > > She doesn't have an IEP or 504, so not a chance to have homework > modifications or exemptions. She also doesn't want to stand out in > any way, so that would make her self-conscious. > > > > . > > <http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=18638/grpspId=1706329052/msg > Id=131899/stime=1234943040/nc1=3848641/nc2=5579900/nc3=5170417> > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.25/1956 - Release Date: > 02/16/09 18:31:00 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 That is an excellent question! And one I've asked her myself many, many times. Sheer stubbornness, that's why. The homework room is quiet and there are others that choose to do their work. I've even offered a bribe for trying to get it done at daycare. I can see the light at the end of the tunnel for this school year and it can't get here fast enough for me!We're talking about a trampoline, mainly for DS who is a hopper and bouncer. She would like it too, I'm sure. I guess my living room/dining room will just get a little more crowded.> > >> > > Sorry to be a wet blanket, but having caffeine that late in the day> > can cause�problems falling asleep and staying asleep.� > > > > Actually, it is well known that caffeine has the opposite effect on> > many ADHD people that it does on "normal" people, e.g. it calms them> > rather than wakes them up. Doctors actually "prescribe" it in some> > cases. You may not know that unless you have been around ADHD families.> > > > Ruth> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 > > Sorry, I have to disagree with you. You're getting into a > controversial subject there. From real scientific studies, there is > no evidence that a moderate amount of diet coke does any harm. I > don't subscribe to the rumors that circulate on the internet. > > We're all talking about putting our kids on multiple meds in their > lifetime....diet coke is the least of my concerns. Thank you for saying that. Aspartame is made out of ingredients that naturally occur in our veggies and fruits anyway. I think it is the safest of all the man-made sweeteners myself. As far as soft drinks go--they are carbonated water with a little bit of sweetener and flavorings added. My only big beef is with the ones with natural sugars because they have an absolute TON of sugar in them. Ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 > > We're talking about a trampoline, mainly for DS who is a hopper and > bouncer. She would like it too, I'm sure. I guess my living > room/dining room will just get a little more crowded. We kept a little trampoline, I think designed for launching cheerleaders, in our living room for several years. It was great--got a lot of use. We often took it outside in nice weather too. Ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Sorry – didn’t mean to be controversial at all. In the light of other meds, I would agree with you. Sorry again, a -----Original Message----- From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of kellypywtorak Sent: 20 February 2009 14:43 To: Subject: Re: ( ) concerta question Sorry, I have to disagree with you. You're getting into a controversial subject there. From real scientific studies, there is no evidence that a moderate amount of diet coke does any harm. I don't subscribe to the rumors that circulate on the internet. We're all talking about putting our kids on multiple meds in their lifetime....diet coke is the least of my concerns. > > Please don't try diet coke – it is full of aspartame and fake sugars > that do more harm than the real stuff!!!!! If you're going to give her > coke, give her the non-diet stuff, better extra sugar than what > aspartame does to you. > > a > > Re: ( ) concerta question > > You're talking to a dietitian. I agree about sodas. Real sodas > are reserved for extra special occasions, and even diet sodas are a > once in a while food for me & the kids (not for my hubby who is > dependent upon them during the day at work--seems to be a programmer > thing). I was thinking about maybe trying 8 oz. of diet coke at about > 5:30, and she goes to bed at 9:30. Hot tea would be a good option > too. She'll probably sleep OK. If not, we'll cut it out. We'd only > need to give it to her on the 2 evenings that we get home from > work/daycare late--6:00ish---and then she has to try to do homework. > The other day that we get home from work late is Friday and she > doesn't have any responsibility or pressure, so not much chance of a > meltdown, thank goodness. > > She doesn't have an IEP or 504, so not a chance to have homework > modifications or exemptions. She also doesn't want to stand out in > any way, so that would make her self-conscious. > > > > . > > <http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=18638/grpspId=1706329052/msg > Id=131899/stime=1234943040/nc1=3848641/nc2=5579900/nc3=5170417> > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.25/1956 - Release Date: > 02/16/09 18:31:00 > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.1/1962 - Release Date: 02/20/09 07:26:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 I wish it was a simple sleep problem where you could set up a routine and fix it. A little warm milk at 9 pm and he's out by 9:30... But it goes deeper than that. My ds has been up at night all week this past week. My dd even lectured me yesterday, saying, "Just make him go to bed!" I just wanted to say, "Oh, I never thought to do that...." sarcasm.... I think he has grown a lot quickly and gained weight - I think he needs his meds adjusted or increased. Even my 20 yo (hfa) has this same problem with sleep. He has taken various meds over the years to help him. Right now he isn't taking anything and he eventually gets so frustrated by the problem that he considers going back for meds. He will get up for his classes and tell me he's only slept for 3 hours because he could not sleep. I think it has to do with their ability to self regulate. I also heard of some sort of study on ADHD kids where they noted the kids did not go through all the stages of sleep or they didn't stay in certain stages long enough - something like that. It makes me wonder what missing out on the stages of sleep will do to a person long term. I also wonder how many problems are related to that. Or when you see the miswiring, perhaps it is a sign of other wiring problems as well. ?? Just thinking outloud today due to lack of sleep as I've dealt with the hyperactive 12 yo all week this way. ugh. RoxannaYou're UniqueJust like everyone else... Re: ( ) concerta question >> Sorry to be a wet blanket, but having caffeine that late in the daycan cause�problems falling asleep and staying asleep.� Actually, it is well known that caffeine has the opposite effect onmany ADHD people that it does on "normal" people, e.g. it calms themrather than wakes them up. Doctors actually "prescribe" it in somecases. You may not know that unless you have been around ADHD families.Ruth No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.25/1957 - Release Date: 02/17/09 07:07:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 You would go nuts at my house! I am addicted to pop. Maybe I have ADD and don't know it? lol. I even drink the Pepsi Max now, with extra caffeine. I never got into coffee as a drink. I remember growing up that my dad would suck down coffee constantly throughout the day. He admits he has ADD and I often thought it was his way of self medicating. RoxannaYou're UniqueJust like everyone else... Re: ( ) concerta question >> Sorry to be a wet blanket, but having caffeine that late in the daycan cause�problems falling asleep and staying asleep.� Actually, it is well known that caffeine has the opposite effect onmany ADHD people that it does on "normal" people, e.g. it calms themrather than wakes them up. Doctors actually "prescribe" it in somecases. You may not know that unless you have been around ADHD families.Ruth No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.25/1957 - Release Date: 02/17/09 07:07:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 I understand some of your kids have some hefty sleep problems. That's why I didn't think have a soda at night was a good idea to get a kid to calm down was a good idea. That plus I think it's a bad habit to establish. How do meds play into this? I know for my son, when he was on medication that lasted into the evenings and had a bedtime of 8pm (when he was much younger), if we weren't meticulous about the timing of his morning and school doses, he'd have trouble sleeping. It was very obvious because he doesn't seem to have sleep problems in general. Even if you're dosing with meds to help sleep, do you think other meds (or even the dosing schedule) might be contributing to the problem? I'm not suggesting if this was part of the problem and solved that your son would sleep like a baby through the night. I've been doing this long enough now to know there is no magic bullet! It's the collective "little things" that truly make a difference. But maybe it would help a little? "Over-optimism is waiting for you ship to come in when you haven't sent one out." From: Roxanna <madideas@...> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:23:11 AMSubject: Re: ( ) concerta question I wish it was a simple sleep problem where you could set up a routine and fix it. A little warm milk at 9 pm and he's out by 9:30... But it goes deeper than that. My ds has been up at night all week this past week. My dd even lectured me yesterday, saying, "Just make him go to bed!" I just wanted to say, "Oh, I never thought to do that...." sarcasm.... I think he has grown a lot quickly and gained weight - I think he needs his meds adjusted or increased. Even my 20 yo (hfa) has this same problem with sleep. He has taken various meds over the years to help him. Right now he isn't taking anything and he eventually gets so frustrated by the problem that he considers going back for meds. He will get up for his classes and tell me he's only slept for 3 hours because he could not sleep. I think it has to do with their ability to self regulate. I also heard of some sort of study on ADHD kids where they noted the kids did not go through all the stages of sleep or they didn't stay in certain stages long enough - something like that. It makes me wonder what missing out on the stages of sleep will do to a person long term. I also wonder how many problems are related to that. Or when you see the miswiring, perhaps it is a sign of other wiring problems as well. ?? Just thinking outloud today due to lack of sleep as I've dealt with the hyperactive 12 yo all week this way. ugh. RoxannaYou're UniqueJust like everyone else... Re: ( ) concerta question >> Sorry to be a wet blanket, but having caffeine that late in the daycan cause�problems falling asleep and staying asleep.� Actually, it is well known that caffeine has the opposite effect onmany ADHD people that it does on "normal" people, e.g. it calms themrather than wakes them up. Doctors actually "prescribe" it in somecases. You may not know that unless you have been around ADHD families.Ruth No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.25/1957 - Release Date: 02/17/09 07:07:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 I used to love Dr. Pepper. LOVE! 32 oz. Dr. Pepper from Sonic w/ the pellet ice...yum! But I also have struggled with my weight probably since I was 12 and about 4 years ago I cut out soda. I was sad, but I'm still here =) And I've dropped 60 pounds since then too. I sometimes have a Diet Dr. Pepper (once every few months) and while good, it's not the same thing. I love iced tea (when I go out to eat), Skinny Vanilla Lattes from Starbucks (maybe 1-2 times per month), and the coffee I make every morning but I use Splenda and fat-free vanilla creamer w/ a dollop of fat-free whipped topping on top. But mostly I drink water. "Over-optimism is waiting for you ship to come in when you haven't sent one out." From: Roxanna <madideas@...> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:26:26 AMSubject: Re: ( ) concerta question You would go nuts at my house! I am addicted to pop. Maybe I have ADD and don't know it? lol. I even drink the Pepsi Max now, with extra caffeine. I never got into coffee as a drink. I remember growing up that my dad would suck down coffee constantly throughout the day. He admits he has ADD and I often thought it was his way of self medicating. RoxannaYou're UniqueJust like everyone else... Re: ( ) concerta question >> Sorry to be a wet blanket, but having caffeine that late in the daycan cause�problems falling asleep and staying asleep.� Actually, it is well known that caffeine has the opposite effect onmany ADHD people that it does on "normal" people, e.g. it calms themrather than wakes them up. Doctors actually "prescribe" it in somecases. You may not know that unless you have been around ADHD families.Ruth No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.25/1957 - Release Date: 02/17/09 07:07:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 So...just reread my post. Don't think I was fully awake yet! What I was trying to say was I didn't think it was a good idea to advocate giving kids caffeinated drinks (especially sodas) in the evening since I've read about so many kids on here that have sleep problems. I think that's a better description than my previous post . "Over-optimism is waiting for you ship to come in when you haven't sent one out." From: MacAllister <smacalli@...> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:43:00 AMSubject: Re: ( ) concerta question I understand some of your kids have some hefty sleep problems. That's why I didn't think have a soda at night was a good idea to get a kid to calm down was a good idea. That plus I think it's a bad habit to establish. How do meds play into this? I know for my son, when he was on medication that lasted into the evenings and had a bedtime of 8pm (when he was much younger), if we weren't meticulous about the timing of his morning and school doses, he'd have trouble sleeping. It was very obvious because he doesn't seem to have sleep problems in general. Even if you're dosing with meds to help sleep, do you think other meds (or even the dosing schedule) might be contributing to the problem? I'm not suggesting if this was part of the problem and solved that your son would sleep like a baby through the night. I've been doing this long enough now to know there is no magic bullet! It's the collective "little things" that truly make a difference. But maybe it would help a little? "Over-optimism is waiting for you ship to come in when you haven't sent one out." From: Roxanna <madideas@zoomintern et.net> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:23:11 AMSubject: Re: ( ) concerta question I wish it was a simple sleep problem where you could set up a routine and fix it. A little warm milk at 9 pm and he's out by 9:30... But it goes deeper than that. My ds has been up at night all week this past week. My dd even lectured me yesterday, saying, "Just make him go to bed!" I just wanted to say, "Oh, I never thought to do that...." sarcasm.... I think he has grown a lot quickly and gained weight - I think he needs his meds adjusted or increased. Even my 20 yo (hfa) has this same problem with sleep. He has taken various meds over the years to help him. Right now he isn't taking anything and he eventually gets so frustrated by the problem that he considers going back for meds. He will get up for his classes and tell me he's only slept for 3 hours because he could not sleep. I think it has to do with their ability to self regulate. I also heard of some sort of study on ADHD kids where they noted the kids did not go through all the stages of sleep or they didn't stay in certain stages long enough - something like that. It makes me wonder what missing out on the stages of sleep will do to a person long term. I also wonder how many problems are related to that. Or when you see the miswiring, perhaps it is a sign of other wiring problems as well. ?? Just thinking outloud today due to lack of sleep as I've dealt with the hyperactive 12 yo all week this way. ugh. RoxannaYou're UniqueJust like everyone else... Re: ( ) concerta question >> Sorry to be a wet blanket, but having caffeine that late in the daycan cause�problems falling asleep and staying asleep.� Actually, it is well known that caffeine has the opposite effect onmany ADHD people that it does on "normal" people, e.g. it calms themrather than wakes them up. Doctors actually "prescribe" it in somecases. You may not know that unless you have been around ADHD families.Ruth No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.25/1957 - Release Date: 02/17/09 07:07:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 I'm that way with coffee. It calms me. I love it. Drink it at night as well and so, I think it "self medicates" little ole hyperactive/add me!!!! (Just like your dad (and you?)! !!!He he. From: MacAllister <smacalli (DOT) com>Subject: Re: ( ) concerta question Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 9:45 AM My son is on meds for ADHD (Daytrana patch), but I haven't noticed that difference in him? I wouldn't want to give my kid a soda every night anyway because they aren't good for you. Maybe tea would work too if a child isn't affected by the caffeine? I've just read about how many kids on here have sleep problems and it would seem giving soda at night would just exacerbate the problem, at least for some. My son doesn't have sleep problems. "Over-optimism is waiting for you ship to come in when you haven't sent one out." From: r_woman2 <me2ruth (DOT) com> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:20:45 AMSubject: Re: ( ) concerta question >> Sorry to be a wet blanket, but having caffeine that late in the daycan cause�problems falling asleep and staying asleep.� Actually, it is well known that caffeine has the opposite effect onmany ADHD people that it does on "normal" people, e.g. it calms themrather than wakes them up. Doctors actually "prescribe" it in somecases. You may not know that unless you have been around ADHD families.Ruth No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.25/1957 - Release Date: 02/17/09 07:07:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 No, I know what you meant, . And you are right, soda is bad. It's just something that isn't a factor for us here. I wish it were, said seriously and not sarcastically! That plus I am addicted to the caffeine myself. :-) The other meds he takes should actually help him to sleep/make him sleepy. So it's not those. I think it is probably the dose because he is at the pre-teen stage and he is growing like a weed and putting on weight too. So I am wondering if that is having the effect - higher dosage necessary? That, plus he doesn't sleep in his own bed still. He's 12 yo and still trying to sleep with me. I was so exhausted last night - he kept crawling into bed and I kept waking up and telling him to get out. He'd leave for a bit, then he'd climb back in. I end up sleeping in a tiny corner of my bed....ugh. RoxannaYou're UniqueJust like everyone else... Re: ( ) concerta question >> Sorry to be a wet blanket, but having caffeine that late in the daycan cause�problems falling asleep and staying asleep.� Actually, it is well known that caffeine has the opposite effect onmany ADHD people that it does on "normal" people, e.g. it calms themrather than wakes them up. Doctors actually "prescribe" it in somecases. You may not know that unless you have been around ADHD families.Ruth No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.25/1957 - Release Date: 02/17/09 07:07:00 No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.2/1964 - Release Date: 02/21/09 11:05:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Pepsi Max is diet. I switched to that from regular pepsi. We love sonic. We don't have one in our area but when we go visit family, we stay in a hotel that is right next to a sonic and we love it!!! RoxannaYou're UniqueJust like everyone else... Re: ( ) concerta question >> Sorry to be a wet blanket, but having caffeine that late in the daycan cause�problems falling asleep and staying asleep.� Actually, it is well known that caffeine has the opposite effect onmany ADHD people that it does on "normal" people, e.g. it calms themrather than wakes them up. Doctors actually "prescribe" it in somecases. You may not know that unless you have been around ADHD families.Ruth No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.25/1957 - Release Date: 02/17/09 07:07:00 No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.2/1964 - Release Date: 02/21/09 11:05:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 LOL, aint genetics great. lol. Yep, I can drink it right before bed and I am relaxed and not at all hyper. That is weird. RoxannaYou're UniqueJust like everyone else... Re: ( ) concerta question >> Sorry to be a wet blanket, but having caffeine that late in the daycan cause�problems falling asleep and staying asleep.� Actually, it is well known that caffeine has the opposite effect onmany ADHD people that it does on "normal" people, e.g. it calms themrather than wakes them up. Doctors actually "prescribe" it in somecases. You may not know that unless you have been around ADHD families.Ruth No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.25/1957 - Release Date: 02/17/09 07:07:00 No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.2/1964 - Release Date: 02/21/09 11:05:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 > > > > Please don't try diet coke – it is full of aspartame and fake sugars > > that do more harm than the real stuff!!!!! If you're going to give her > > coke, give her the non-diet stuff, better extra sugar than what > > aspartame does to you. > > > > a > > > > Re: ( ) concerta question > > > > You're talking to a dietitian. I agree about sodas. Real sodas > > are reserved for extra special occasions, and even diet sodas are a > > once in a while food for me & the kids (not for my hubby who is > > dependent upon them during the day at work--seems to be a programmer > > thing). I was thinking about maybe trying 8 oz. of diet coke at about > > 5:30, and she goes to bed at 9:30. Hot tea would be a good option > > too. She'll probably sleep OK. If not, we'll cut it out. We'd only > > need to give it to her on the 2 evenings that we get home from > > work/daycare late--6:00ish----and then she has to try to do homework. > > The other day that we get home from work late is Friday and she > > doesn't have any responsibility or pressure, so not much chance of a > > meltdown, thank goodness. > > > > She doesn't have an IEP or 504, so not a chance to have homework > > modifications or exemptions. She also doesn't want to stand out in > > any way, so that would make her self-conscious. > > > > > > > > . > > > > <http://geo.. > <http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=18638/grpspId=1706329052/msg > > -com/serv?-s=97359714/-grpId=18638/-grpspId=17063290-52/msg > > Id=131899/stime=-1234943040/-nc1=3848641/-nc2=5579900/-nc3=5170417> > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.25/1956 - Release Date: > > 02/16/09 18:31:00 > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.1/1962 - Release Date: > 02/20/09 07:26:00 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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