RE: [SPAM] Re: Re: Larry King Live

October 25, 2007

The vaccine is for the HPV virus which can

cause cervical cancer.

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Rose

Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007

7:47 AM

Subject: [sPAM] Re:

( ) Re: Larry King Live

Deb,

<<<the new one for young girls>>>. are you speaking

of the vaccine that's new, that's suppose to prevent ovarian cancer? I

heard on the news that some states made it mandatory for girls to have this,

and some schools are giving them out " in school " . I don't know

which states.

debmetsfanaol

wrote:

's pediatrician wants to give her

the meningitis vaccine and the new one for young girls. Should I be

concerned at all?

Deb

In a message dated 10/24/2007 10:34:49

P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mrathswohldaylemc (DOT) org writes:

I guess

part of my problem with Dr. Kartzinel is just that I don't

really see my son as broken, but different. I did listen to the clip

again and she did say recovered, so I have to back away from that

issue there. My only reason for saying anything about the MMR is that

I keep hearing people blame the mercury in the MMR for their kids

being autistic, and the MMR does not contain any. I do think that we

need to have research on the issue of the viral load and overloading

our kids immune systems. That just seems to be a far more likely

cause, and if that is the cause I belive that we need to spread out

the immunitizations better so they are not getting so much at one.

Thanks for the feedback.

>

> I agreed with Dr. Kartzinel -- my thoughts are that these kids do

have

> some broken mechanisms in their body, things that don't work right

for

> one way or another. But, it may be because I see my son have a ton

of

> intestinal issues, rashes, aches, etc., that can't be explained,

and

> many, many children on the spectrum face similar issues. Dr.

Kartzinel

> is an amazing man, very much on our side, so I'd have a hard time

> feeling bad about the fact he's getting awareness out there.

Honestly,

> personally? I don't get caught up in the semantics. My son has

issues,

> and I don't care if he's referred to as autistic, which is the

peeve I

> have with Holly -Peete; she can feel that way about her

son, but

> to say that it's the wrong vernacular is misrepresentation, imo. I

say

> my son 'is autistic' sometimes, but I don't say he is " an

autistic. " My

> daughter is epileptic, it's true, it's factual, I can't be bothered

by

> that. It's just words.

>

> also never says she 'cured' her son. She says she recovered

him.

> You probably heard her bus analogy -- you get hit by a bus, you'll

never

> be cured, you'll always have aches, pains, scars, but you can

recover.

>

> The thing with the MMR shot is that it's a huge dose of vaccine on

a

> body that is still growing and the mixture can be dangerous to a

child

> who cannot process the viral/toxic loads as bodies are supposed to.

> (Which explains why not every child gets autism after having

vaccines.

> Most children can process the loads fine, but toxins increase, the

> number of children who can't process the increased toxins is

growing at

> a scary epidemic rate.)

>

> Be careful to just research the FDA and government sites. It makes

sense

> that they aren't going to show the side-effects, unless they are in

> small print and hard to find. And a 'trace' of thimerasol can still

be

> WAY more than a tiny body can process per pound.

>

> And last -- Thimerasol was 'recommended' to be phased out in 1999,

but

> because it preserves vaccines for years, those vaccines that

weren't yet

> used stayed on the shelf for years later because they weren't yet

> expired, so while new ones weren't made, those ones with thimerasol

> still remained.

>

> Thimerasol/vaccines aren't the sole reason for autism, they are

just one

> of the most common ones -- pesticides, medications, etc., there's a

lot

> of toxins out there contributing to it all.

>

> Hope that helps!

> Donna

>

Debbie

Salerno

Maine Coon

Rescue

Board Member

DNA Manager

Eastern Regional Director

Vice President

www.mainecoonrescue.net

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Homepage.

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October 25, 2007

OKAY---I thought it was SUPPOSED TO BE PREVENTING IT, and that THAT was the reason you were supposed to want to give it to your children? What IS it doing for people then?

Ruthie

RE: [sPAM] Re: ( ) Re: Larry King Live

The vaccine is for the HPV virus which can cause cervical cancer.

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of RoseSent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 7:47 AM Subject: [sPAM] Re: ( ) Re: Larry King Live

Deb,

<<<the new one for young girls>>>. are you speaking of the vaccine that's new, that's suppose to prevent ovarian cancer? I heard on the news that some states made it mandatory for girls to have this, and some schools are giving them out "in school". I don't know which states.debmetsfanaol wrote:

's pediatrician wants to give her the meningitis vaccine and the new one for young girls. Should I be concerned at all?

Deb

In a message dated 10/24/2007 10:34:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mrathswohldaylemc (DOT) org writes:

I guess part of my problem with Dr. Kartzinel is just that I don't really see my son as broken, but different. I did listen to the clip again and she did say recovered, so I have to back away from that issue there. My only reason for saying anything about the MMR is that I keep hearing people blame the mercury in the MMR for their kids being autistic, and the MMR does not contain any. I do think that we need to have research on the issue of the viral load and overloading our kids immune systems. That just seems to be a far more likely cause, and if that is the cause I belive that we need to spread out the immunitizations better so they are not getting so much at one. Thanks for the feedback. >> I agreed with Dr. Kartzinel -- my thoughts are that these kids do have > some broken mechanisms in their body, things that don't work right for > one way or another. But, it may be because I see my son have a ton of > intestinal issues, rashes, aches, etc., that can't be explained, and > many, many children on the spectrum face similar issues. Dr. Kartzinel > is an amazing man, very much on our side, so I'd have a hard time > feeling bad about the fact he's getting awareness out there. Honestly, > personally? I don't get caught up in the semantics. My son has issues, > and I don't care if he's referred to as autistic, which is the peeve I > have with Holly -Peete; she can feel that way about her son, but > to say that it's the wrong vernacular is misrepresentation, imo. I say > my son 'is autistic' sometimes, but I don't say he is "an autistic." My > daughter is epileptic, it's true, it's factual, I can't be bothered by > that. It's just words.> > also never says she 'cured' her son. She says she recovered him. > You probably heard her bus analogy -- you get hit by a bus, you'll never > be cured, you'll always have aches, pains, scars, but you can recover.> > The thing with the MMR shot is that it's a huge dose of vaccine on a > body that is still growing and the mixture can be dangerous to a child > who cannot process the viral/toxic loads as bodies are supposed to. > (Which explains why not every child gets autism after having vaccines. > Most children can process the loads fine, but toxins increase, the > number of children who can't process the increased toxins is growing at > a scary epidemic rate.)> > Be careful to just research the FDA and government sites. It makes sense > that they aren't going to show the side-effects, unless they are in > small print and hard to find. And a 'trace' of thimerasol can still be > WAY more than a tiny body can process per pound.> > And last -- Thimerasol was 'recommended' to be phased out in 1999, but > because it preserves vaccines for years, those vaccines that weren't yet > used stayed on the shelf for years later because they weren't yet > expired, so while new ones weren't made, those ones with thimerasol > still remained.> > Thimerasol/vaccines aren't the sole reason for autism, they are just one > of the most common ones -- pesticides, medications, etc., there's a lot > of toxins out there contributing to it all.> > Hope that helps!> Donna>

Debbie SalernoMaine Coon RescueBoard MemberDNA ManagerEastern Regional DirectorVice Presidentwww.mainecoonrescue.net

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October 25, 2007

It is given to prevent cervical cancer. I know at least two people who contracted HPV, and who were in monogamous relationships all their lives. So I would have my daughter get it. (My 24 year old daughter opted to get it on her own.)LizOn Oct 25, 2007, at 9:22 AM, RUTHIE BRYAN DOLEZAL wrote:OKAY---I thought it was SUPPOSED TO BE PREVENTING IT, and that THAT was the reason you were supposed to want to give it to your children? What IS it doing for people then? Ruthie RE: [sPAM] Re: ( ) Re: Larry King LiveThe vaccine is for the HPV virus which can cause cervical cancer.From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of RoseSent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 7:47 AM Subject: [sPAM] Re: ( ) Re: Larry King LiveDeb,<<<the new one for young girls>>>. are you speaking of the vaccine that's new, that's suppose to prevent ovarian cancer? I heard on the news that some states made it mandatory for girls to have this, and some schools are giving them out "in school". I don't know which states.debmetsfanaol wrote:'s pediatrician wants to give her the meningitis vaccine and the new one for young girls. Should I be concerned at all? DebIn a message dated 10/24/2007 10:34:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mrathswohldaylemc (DOT) org writes:I guess part of my problem with Dr. Kartzinel is just that I don't really see my son as broken, but different. I did listen to the clip again and she did say recovered, so I have to back away from that issue there. My only reason for saying anything about the MMR is that I keep hearing people blame the mercury in the MMR for their kids being autistic, and the MMR does not contain any. I do think that we need to have research on the issue of the viral load and overloading our kids immune systems. That just seems to be a far more likely cause, and if that is the cause I belive that we need to spread out the immunitizations better so they are not getting so much at one. Thanks for the feedback. >> I agreed with Dr. Kartzinel -- my thoughts are that these kids do have > some broken mechanisms in their body, things that don't work right for > one way or another. But, it may be because I see my son have a ton of > intestinal issues, rashes, aches, etc., that can't be explained, and > many, many children on the spectrum face similar issues. Dr. Kartzinel > is an amazing man, very much on our side, so I'd have a hard time > feeling bad about the fact he's getting awareness out there. Honestly, > personally? I don't get caught up in the semantics. My son has issues, > and I don't care if he's referred to as autistic, which is the peeve I > have with Holly -Peete; she can feel that way about her son, but > to say that it's the wrong vernacular is misrepresentation, imo. I say > my son 'is autistic' sometimes, but I don't say he is "an autistic." My > daughter is epileptic, it's true, it's factual, I can't be bothered by > that. It's just words.> > also never says she 'cured' her son. She says she recovered him. > You probably heard her bus analogy -- you get hit by a bus, you'll never > be cured, you'll always have aches, pains, scars, but you can recover.> > The thing with the MMR shot is that it's a huge dose of vaccine on a > body that is still growing and the mixture can be dangerous to a child > who cannot process the viral/toxic loads as bodies are supposed to. > (Which explains why not every child gets autism after having vaccines. > Most children can process the loads fine, but toxins increase, the > number of children who can't process the increased toxins is growing at > a scary epidemic rate.)> > Be careful to just research the FDA and government sites. It makes sense > that they aren't going to show the side-effects, unless they are in > small print and hard to find. And a 'trace' of thimerasol can still be > WAY more than a tiny body can process per pound.> > And last -- Thimerasol was 'recommended' to be phased out in 1999, but > because it preserves vaccines for years, those vaccines that weren't yet > used stayed on the shelf for years later because they weren't yet > expired, so while new ones weren't made, those ones with thimerasol > still remained.> > Thimerasol/vaccines aren't the sole reason for autism, they are just one > of the most common ones -- pesticides, medications, etc., there's a lot > of toxins out there contributing to it all.> > Hope that helps!> Donna>Debbie SalernoMaine Coon RescueBoard MemberDNA ManagerEastern Regional DirectorVice Presidentwww.mainecoonrescue.netSee what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. __________________________________________________

October 25, 2007

So,,,,is the vaccine ONLY helping to prevent cerv cancer that you get from having sex? And NOT cerv cancer that you just GET? Robin Elgamal <cindyelgamal@...> wrote: The vaccine is for the HPV virus which can cause cervical cancer. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of RoseSent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 7:47 AM Subject: [sPAM] Re: ( ) Re: Larry King

Live Deb, <<<the new one for young girls>>>. are you speaking of the vaccine that's new, that's suppose to prevent ovarian cancer? I heard on the news that some states made it mandatory for girls to have this, and some schools are giving them out "in school". I don't know which states.debmetsfanaol wrote: 's pediatrician wants to give her the meningitis vaccine and the new one for young girls. Should I be concerned at all? Deb In a message dated 10/24/2007 10:34:49 P.M. Eastern

Daylight Time, mrathswohldaylemc (DOT) org writes: I guess part of my problem with Dr. Kartzinel is just that I don't really see my son as broken, but different. I did listen to the clip again and she did say recovered, so I have to back away from that issue there. My only reason for saying anything about the MMR is that I keep hearing people blame the mercury in the MMR for their kids being autistic, and the MMR does not contain any. I do think that we need to have research on the issue of the viral load and overloading our kids immune systems. That just seems to be a far more likely cause, and if that is the cause I belive that we need to spread out the

immunitizations better so they are not getting so much at one. Thanks for the feedback. >> I agreed with Dr. Kartzinel -- my thoughts are that these kids do have > some broken mechanisms in their body, things that don't work right for > one way or another. But, it may be because I see my son have a ton of > intestinal issues, rashes, aches, etc., that can't be explained, and > many, many children on the spectrum face similar issues. Dr. Kartzinel > is an amazing man, very much on our side, so I'd have a hard time > feeling bad about the fact he's getting awareness out there. Honestly, > personally? I don't get caught up in the semantics. My son has issues, > and I

don't care if he's referred to as autistic, which is the peeve I > have with Holly -Peete; she can feel that way about her son, but > to say that it's the wrong vernacular is misrepresentation, imo. I say > my son 'is autistic' sometimes, but I don't say he is "an autistic." My > daughter is epileptic, it's true, it's factual, I can't be bothered by > that. It's just words.> > also never says she 'cured' her son. She says she recovered him. > You probably heard her bus analogy -- you get hit by a bus, you'll never > be cured, you'll always have aches, pains, scars, but you can recover.> > The thing with the MMR shot is that it's a huge dose of vaccine on a > body that is still growing and the mixture can be dangerous to a child > who cannot process the viral/toxic loads as bodies are supposed to. > (Which explains why not

every child gets autism after having vaccines. > Most children can process the loads fine, but toxins increase, the > number of children who can't process the increased toxins is growing at > a scary epidemic rate.)> > Be careful to just research the FDA and government sites. It makes sense > that they aren't going to show the side-effects, unless they are in > small print and hard to find. And a 'trace' of thimerasol can still be > WAY more than a tiny body can process per pound.> > And last -- Thimerasol was 'recommended' to be phased out in 1999, but > because it preserves vaccines for years, those vaccines that weren't yet > used stayed on the shelf for years later because they weren't yet > expired, so while new ones weren't made, those ones with thimerasol > still remained.> > Thimerasol/vaccines aren't the sole reason for autism,

they are just one > of the most common ones -- pesticides, medications, etc., there's a lot > of toxins out there contributing to it all.> > Hope that helps!> Donna> Debbie SalernoMaine Coon RescueBoard MemberDNA ManagerEastern Regional DirectorVice Presidentwww.mainecoonrescue.net See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. __________________________________________________

October 25, 2007

It "helps" prevents something like 4 types of HPV, when there are many,

many more...or 4% of HPV...can't remember which, quite honestly, but in

my head, neither is convincing enough to get the shot. HPV doesn't mean

you will get cervical cancer anyway, it just means you may.

and/or Robin Lemke wrote:

So,,,,is the vaccine ONLY helping to prevent cerv cancer that

you get from having sex?

And NOT cerv cancer that you just GET?

Robin

Elgamal <cindyelgamalsbcglobal (DOT) net>

wrote:

The vaccine

is for the HPV virus which can cause cervical cancer.

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Rose

Sent: Thursday,

October 25, 2007 7:47 AM

Subject: [sPAM] Re:

( ) Re: Larry King Live

Deb,

<<<the new one for young

girls>>>. are you speaking of the vaccine that's new, that's

suppose to prevent ovarian cancer? I heard on the news that some

states made it mandatory for girls to have this, and some schools are

giving them out "in school". I don't know which states.

debmetsfanaol

wrote:

's

pediatrician wants to give her the meningitis vaccine and the new one

for young girls. Should I be concerned at all?

Deb

In a

message dated 10/24/2007 10:34:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

mrathswohldaylemc (DOT) org writes: