Re: HFA and Aspergers

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From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of and/or Robin Lemke

Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008

6:07 PM

Subject: Re: ( )

HFA and Aspergers

I guess I look at it like,,,,,,,,it's just where he sleeps.

It's not that he punches people in the face if they have black hair. Ha

ha.

Even if the worse thing happened and he slept on the couch until the

day when he moves out on his own................and he sleeps on the couch

in his own place.......so what?

Maybe I should be more concerned.....but......heck I'd love

it if my husband left the bed just for me!!! I go to sleep with the tv on

a timer and slip my shoes on without tying/untying...........my dad

would crap if he knew that!!!!!! Ha ha.

I guess in the big picture of life,,,,,it just doesn't seem like a big

deal to me.

He hee.

Robin

sherry burford

<superchick0770 > wrote:

So u see nothing wrong with this? I mean i am not making

matters worse by allowing these things?

and/or Robin Lemke

<jrisjs > wrote:

I wish I knew?

Maybe b/c they can have such hard times getting to sleep,,,,whether

it's the meds wearing off or their mind racing or whatever,,,,,but the idea

of BED is just not very comforting to them.

My son has been a couch-sleeper for years. We have the tv set off

for a certain time.

All of my kids sleep better with someone. Whether it's us or

eachother. Heck...that's the way it was done in the old days!!!

Robin

sherry burford

<superchick0770 > wrote:

my son 9 dx w/ Aspergers has been sleeping on the couch for a week also

last night he slept in his room but only after his 12 yr NT sister said she

would sleep in there w/ him. I really am at a loss for what to do. Why the

couch. Why do they think it is better than a bed? Sherry

and/or Robin Lemke

<jrisjs > wrote:

Ha ha.

I can " attempt " to use it much better than listening to it

and figuring it out. Unless there's an easy word, like Couch.....

He actually fell asleep in HIS bed last night.

Of course,,,,,,,,,knowing that he slept there ALL NIGHT is going

to be reason for him to sleep on the couch for the next week and a half and NOT

even try HIS bed.

Ha ha.

Whatever works.

ave-hay a odd-gay ay-day!!!!

Ha ha.

Toni

<kbtoniwindstream (DOT) net> wrote:

so sweet that

Ian,... pig latin, haven't used that in a long time... well.. idday ehay ogay

otay theay (haha) ouchcay? no wonder I don't use it anymore, it's too hard for

this old brain to figure out ...especially spelling

Re:

( ) HFA and Aspergers

I'm probably way off.....and wrong, but I was told that they are the

same. AS is on the autism spectrum,.....so the use of HFA puts the

" more known " name AUTISM out there for those who may not understand a

darned thing we tell them with the word aspergers.

Did I make sense?

I always say, " Aspergers.....it's a high functioning form of

autism. " Even though I'm not sure I agree with as being a form of

autism.

NOW did I make any sense?

Ha ha.

It's late and Ian in " hoo hooing " in his room and wide

awake. I'm sure it's a matter of minutes before I hear him say,

" mom.......an-cay I o-gay to the ouch-cay " ???? He

uses pig-latin so his brother and sisters supposedly can't understand him.

Ha ha.

Robin

Willa Hunt

<willafularmory> wrote:

On Mar 6, 2:33pm, " " wrote:

} I am a little confused about these terms. Sometimes you see them used

} interchangeably and now I just saw a statement that they are not the same

} (but no explanation as to differences). Could someone please explain to

me

} if HFA and Aspergers are one and the same or if they are different an

} explanation of differences. Thanks.

It's pretty ambiguous. Some people, including Temple Grandin,

believe

they're the same. Other people make a distinction.

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LOL, what's confusing? <g> I don't know the answers, these are just my own thoughts of things I have noticed in the kids I have met in this area. There was an article I read once about there being 3 different kinds of "personalities" with people who have HFA/AS. Ohhh, I found it --> http://www.autism.org//social.html Maybe this will confuse the issue even more. lol

RoxannaAutism Happens

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Well,,,,I'm confused about this now.

Ian would be fine for days if he didn't have to speak. He's never had delayed speech. He would like to have friends, but could care a less if it doesn't happen. But makes lots of noises (shouts.....singing notes outloud.......like "hoo hooooo".......)

Big vocabulary. Good with academics.

Rode a 2-wheeler at 5,,,,,but isn't into sports at all.

Just kind of does his thing.

Not more comfortable around adults,,,,,,,,,,just people in general.....odd. Ya know?

Hmmmm..........is this more HFA or AS ................or hermit? Ha ha

Robinjennifer_thorson <jennifer_thorson > wrote:

My 6 year old had a significant language delay but was not evaluated until she was 4. At that time she still did a lot of echolalia but had a good grasp on academics. She did not interact well with others but was interested in watching them. The school psychologist said she most likely had AS. Then she started talking and communicating with others after starting the gfcf diet. Two months after seeing the school psychologist, the Autism Clinic said she was not on the spectrum. She had less significant issues but they were all still there. She spoke still a bit scripted, but attempted to engage children. She was most comfortable around adults. Even though she did not have an official dx, she had placement under autism, as her special ed teacher said she still had autistic traits. Now she is in a regular private school but still has special needs. She looks more like she has ADD/ADHD. Her socialization is immature but not scripted anymore. She never stops talking and has a large vocabulary. She is advanced in reading and writing skills. Her reading comprehension is good which is a surprise given her recent speech delay. I had her tested about a week ago to see if she has a diagnosis. I noticed she did not answers some questions she was asked due to not hearing them and did not answer some questions directly. Other than that she appeared pretty normal. The MD was going to visit her school to see her in a normal environment but did not expect to give her a dx. This is odd to me since my 3 year old son as PDD NOS and she has behaviors and emotional issues that are much more severe. She may be able to contain herself for long stretches of time but she lets it all out at home. I expect her to learn on a different curve than NT children. She talks a lot and attracts other children to her, but she has difficulty with the back and forth of communication. She wants other to do things her way, but has learned not to talk about things that other children are not interested in. > >> > I am a little confused about these terms. Sometimes you see them used> > interchangeably and now I just saw a statement that they are not the > same> > (but no explanation as to differences). Could someone please explain > to me> > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.>

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From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Roxanna

Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008

8:28 PM

Subject: Re: ( )

Re: HFA and Aspergers

LOL, what's

confusing? <g> I don't know the answers, these are just my

own thoughts of things I have noticed in the kids I have met in this

area. There was an article I read once about there being 3 different

kinds of " personalities " with people who have HFA/AS. Ohhh, I

found it --> http://www.autism.org//social.html

Maybe this will confuse the issue even more. lol

Roxanna

Autism Happens

Re:

( ) Re: HFA and Aspergers

Well,,,,I'm confused about this now.

Ian would be fine for days if he didn't have to speak. He's never

had delayed speech. He would like to have friends, but could care a less

if it doesn't happen. But makes lots of noises (shouts.....singing

notes outloud.......like " hoo hooooo " .......)

Big vocabulary. Good with academics.

Rode a 2-wheeler at 5,,,,,but isn't into sports at all.

Just kind of does his thing.

Not more comfortable around adults,,,,,,,,,,just people in

general.....odd. Ya know?

Hmmmm..........is this more HFA or AS ................or

hermit? Ha ha

Robin

jennifer_thorson

<jennifer_thorson > wrote:

My 6 year old had a

significant language delay but was not evaluated

until she was 4. At that time she still did a lot of echolalia but

had a good grasp on academics. She did not interact well with others

but was interested in watching them. The school psychologist said

she most likely had AS. Then she started talking and communicating

with others after starting the gfcf diet. Two months after seeing

the school psychologist, the Autism Clinic said she was not on the

spectrum. She had less significant issues but they were all still

there. She spoke still a bit scripted, but attempted to engage

children. She was most comfortable around adults. Even though she

did not have an official dx, she had placement under autism, as her

special ed teacher said she still had autistic traits. Now she is in

a regular private school but still has special needs. She looks more

like she has ADD/ADHD. Her socialization is immature but not

scripted anymore. She never stops talking and has a large

vocabulary. She is advanced in reading and writing skills. Her

reading comprehension is good which is a surprise given her recent

speech delay. I had her tested about a week ago to see if she has a

diagnosis. I noticed she did not answers some questions she was

asked due to not hearing them and did not answer some questions

directly. Other than that she appeared pretty normal. The MD was

going to visit her school to see her in a normal environment but did

not expect to give her a dx. This is odd to me since my 3 year old

son as PDD NOS and she has behaviors and emotional issues that are

much more severe. She may be able to contain herself for long

stretches of time but she lets it all out at home. I expect her to

learn on a different curve than NT children. She talks a lot and

attracts other children to her, but she has difficulty with the back

and forth of communication. She wants other to do things her way,

but has learned not to talk about things that other children are not

interested in.

> >

> > I am a little confused about these terms. Sometimes you see them

used

> > interchangeably and now I just saw a statement that they are not

the

> same

> > (but no explanation as to differences). Could someone please

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> to me

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} LOL, what's confusing? <g> I don't know the answers, these are just my own

} thoughts of things I have noticed in the kids I have met in this area.

} There was an article I read once about there being 3 different kinds of

} " personalities " with people who have HFA/AS. Ohhh, I found it -->

} http://www.autism. <http://www.autism.org/social.html> org//social.html

} Maybe this will confuse the issue even more. lol

That kind of goes along with my " cat Aspergers/dog Aspergers " theory. ;-)

Willa

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Thanks. I'm gonna check it out. You know what? Someone needs to come up with a blood test or AS/HFA. That's make it a lot easier. Ha ha.Roxanna <madideas@...> wrote: LOL, what's confusing? <g> I don't know the answers, these are just my own thoughts of things I have noticed in the kids I have met in this area. There was an article I read once about there being 3 different kinds of "personalities" with

people who have HFA/AS. Ohhh, I found it --> http://www.autism.org//social.html Maybe this will confuse the issue even more. lol RoxannaAutism Happens Re:

( ) Re: HFA and Aspergers Well,,,,I'm confused about this now. Ian would be fine for days if he didn't have to speak. He's never had delayed speech. He would like to have friends, but could care a less if it doesn't happen. But makes lots of noises (shouts.....singing notes outloud.......like "hoo hooooo".......) Big vocabulary. Good with academics. Rode a 2-wheeler at 5,,,,,but isn't into sports at all. Just kind of does his thing. Not more comfortable around adults,,,,,,,,,,just people in general.....odd. Ya know? Hmmmm..........is this more HFA or AS ................or hermit? Ha ha Robinjennifer_thorson <jennifer_thorson > wrote: My 6 year old had a significant language delay but was not evaluated until she was 4. At that time she still did a lot of echolalia but had a good grasp on academics. She did not interact well with others but was interested in watching them. The school psychologist said she most likely had AS. Then she started talking and communicating with others after starting the gfcf diet. Two months after seeing the school psychologist, the Autism Clinic said she was not on the spectrum. She had less significant issues but they were all still there. She spoke still a bit scripted, but attempted to engage children. She was most comfortable around adults. Even though she did not have an official dx, she had placement under autism, as her special ed teacher said she still had autistic traits. Now she is in a regular private school but still has special needs. She looks more like she has ADD/ADHD. Her

socialization is immature but not scripted anymore. She never stops talking and has a large vocabulary. She is advanced in reading and writing skills. Her reading comprehension is good which is a surprise given her recent speech delay. I had her tested about a week ago to see if she has a diagnosis. I noticed she did not answers some questions she was asked due to not hearing them and did not answer some questions directly. Other than that she appeared pretty normal. The MD was going to visit her school to see her in a normal environment but did not expect to give her a dx. This is odd to me since my 3 year old son as PDD NOS and she has behaviors and emotional issues that are much more severe. She may be able to contain herself for long stretches of time but she lets it all out at home. I expect her to learn on a different curve than NT children. She talks a lot and attracts other children to her, but she has

difficulty with the back and forth of communication. She wants other to do things her way, but has learned not to talk about things that other children are not interested in. > >> > I am a little confused about these terms. Sometimes you see them used> > interchangeably and now I just saw a statement that they are not the > same> > (but no explanation as to differences). Could someone please explain > to me> > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it

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What theory is that, Willa? Hee heeWilla Hunt <willaful@...> wrote: } LOL, what's confusing? <g> I don't know the answers, these are just my own} thoughts of things I have noticed in the kids I have met in this area.} There was an article I read once about there being 3 different kinds of} "personalities" with people who have HFA/AS. Ohhh, I found it -->} http://www.autism. <http://www.autism.org/social.html> org//social.html} Maybe this will confuse the issue even more. lolThat kind of goes along with my "cat Aspergers/dog Aspergers" theory. ;-)Willa

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I think it depends on your house/your family. Here we are happy if they are sleeping during the night. If it's the couch or their bedroom - we aren't that picky. Other people might be more strict about these things. But it's really more about what you can live with. If it bothers you, then keep working on getting him to bed in bed. If it's not the top of your list of things that bother you, then let sleeping boys lie.

RoxannaAutism Happens

Re: ( ) HFA and Aspergers

I'm probably way off.....and wrong, but I was told that they are the same. AS is on the autism spectrum,.....so the use of HFA puts the "more known" name AUTISM out there for those who may not understand a darned thing we tell them with the word aspergers. Did I make sense?

I always say, "Aspergers.....it's a high functioning form of autism." Even though I'm not sure I agree with as being a form of autism.

NOW did I make any sense?

Ha ha.

It's late and Ian in "hoo hooing" in his room and wide awake. I'm sure it's a matter of minutes before I hear him say, "mom.......an-cay I o-gay to the ouch-cay"???? He uses pig-latin so his brother and sisters supposedly can't understand him.

Ha ha.

RobinWilla Hunt <willafularmory> wrote:

On Mar 6, 2:33pm, "" wrote:} I am a little confused about these terms. Sometimes you see them used} interchangeably and now I just saw a statement that they are not the same} (but no explanation as to differences). Could someone please explain to me} if HFA and Aspergers are one and the same or if they are different an} explanation of differences. Thanks.It's pretty ambiguous. Some people, including Temple Grandin, believethey're the same. Other people make a distinction. Willa

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Thanks you are so right. He is so difficult to get to sleep all the time and then he wakes up early and wants everyone up w/him. so when he sleeps so good on the couch it is great. SherryRoxanna <madideas@...> wrote: I think it depends on your house/your family. Here we are happy if they are sleeping during the night. If it's the couch or their bedroom - we aren't that picky. Other people might be more strict about these things. But it's really more about what you can

live with. If it bothers you, then keep working on getting him to bed in bed. If it's not the top of your list of things that bother you, then let sleeping boys lie. RoxannaAutism Happens Re: ( ) HFA and Aspergers I'm probably way off.....and wrong, but I was told that they are the same. AS is on the autism spectrum,.....so the use of HFA puts the "more known" name AUTISM out there for those who may not understand a darned thing we tell them with the word aspergers. Did I make sense? I always say, "Aspergers.....it's a high functioning form of autism." Even though I'm not sure I agree with as being a form of autism. NOW did I make any sense? Ha ha. It's late and Ian in "hoo hooing" in his room and wide awake. I'm sure it's a matter of minutes before I hear him say, "mom.......an-cay I o-gay to the ouch-cay"???? He uses pig-latin so his brother and sisters supposedly can't

understand him. Ha ha. RobinWilla Hunt <willafularmory> wrote: On Mar 6, 2:33pm, "" wrote:} I am a little confused about these terms. Sometimes you see them used} interchangeably and now I just saw a statement that they are not the same} (but no explanation as to differences). Could someone please explain to me} if HFA and Aspergers are one and the same or if they are different an} explanation of differences. Thanks.It's pretty ambiguous. Some people, including Temple Grandin, believethey're the same. Other people make a distinction. Willa Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.

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That was well stated. My daughter falls into the socially awkward

group. She is getting better at understanding how others feel but I

think she learns a rule and then tries to follow it. She has trouble

generalizing anything so it is not consistent.

> > >

> > > I am a little confused about these terms. Sometimes you see

them

> used

> > > interchangeably and now I just saw a statement that they

are not

> the

> > same

> > > (but no explanation as to differences). Could someone

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On Oct 11, 3:51am, and/or Robin Lemke wrote:

}

} What theory is that, Willa?

} Hee hee

Oh, that there are Aspies that are more like cats - kind of

aloof, loners, want affection strictly on their terms - and

those who are more like dogs - boisterous, affectionate, friendly,

in your face. :-)

My son has aspects of both, but is usually more on the " dog " side,

like me, while my best friend growing up was very much a " cat. "

Willa

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We think that Ian used to be socially awkward,,,,,,,,but as he's aged he's become socially indifferent. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm THis all makes sense.jennifer_thorson <jennifer_thorson@...> wrote: That was well stated. My daughter falls into the socially awkward group. She is getting better at understanding how others feel but I think she learns a rule and then tries to follow it. She has trouble generalizing anything so it is not consistent. > > >> > > I am a little confused about these terms. Sometimes you see them > used> > > interchangeably and now I just saw a statement that they are not > the > > same> > > (but no explanation as to differences). Could someone please > explain > > to me> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. > Try it now.> >> > > > > > >

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Ok..........I get it. I love that book.........so true!!! RobinWilla Hunt <willaful@...> wrote: On Oct 11, 3:51am, and/or Robin Lemke wrote:} } What theory is that, Willa?} Hee heeOh, that there are Aspies that are more like cats - kind ofaloof, loners, want affection strictly on their terms - andthose who are more like dogs - boisterous, affectionate, friendly,in your face. :-) My son has aspects of both, but is usually more on the "dog" side,like me, while my

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Tyler is “socially indifferent” and has been that way most of

his life. I think there were times when he could have been considered “socially

awkward” – probably in his early years when in daycare and in elementary

school.

This was good information. Thanks for posting, Roxanna.

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Subject: Re: ( ) Re: HFA and Aspergers

We think that Ian used to be socially awkward,,,,,,,,but as

he's aged he's become socially indifferent.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

THis all makes sense.

jennifer_thorson <jennifer_thorson@...> wrote:

That was well stated. My daughter

falls into the socially awkward

group. She is getting better at understanding how others feel but I

think she learns a rule and then tries to follow it. She has trouble

generalizing anything so it is not consistent.

> > >

> > > I am a little confused about these terms. Sometimes you see

them

> used

> > > interchangeably and now I just saw a statement that they

are not

> the

> > same

> > > (but no explanation as to differences). Could someone

please

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In HFA there is language delay. In Aspergers, there is no significant

delay in language development. But other than that, they are

practically the same.

Jess

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> I am a little confused about these terms. Sometimes you see them used

> interchangeably and now I just saw a statement that they are not the

same

> (but no explanation as to differences). Could someone please explain

to me

> if HFA and Aspergers are one and the same or if they are different an

> explanation of differences. Thanks.

>

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