Re: Index Card 1,2,3, already not working

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I think you are right ...100% right...they just don't understand or get our kids!!!! they don't!!! And, I spoke to the teacher's supervisor....I have not gone above him yet...he was away for 3 days...I will wait to after my meeting with STep by Step and my son's pscyhiatric evaluation and then i may ask the supervisor if just he and I can meet. His boss is the Assistant Superintendent of Special Education and I work for her too.

Jan

P.S. I also think the teachers don't have the time and don't want to be botherered with the extra work...such a delicate fine line! I don't want to piss the teacher off and have her take it out on my son...but I want things done and followed!

Jan Rushen

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From: r_woman2 <me2ruth@...>Subject: Re: ( ) Index Card 1,2,3, already not working Date: Sunday, October 26, 2008, 11:13 AM

> Second...they started this check in/check out with him....he issuppose to go to guidance when he arrives and when he leavesschool...maybe she can check it...but then if it isn't filled in ..hedoesn't have much time to go get the assignments. ..ugh! He alreadyleaves 15 min. before the other kids because he rides the smaller bus...Well, my son doesn't have time to go back and get assignmentseither--I was wondering how that was going to work. He hasdevelopmental coordination disability and moves slowly in addition toneeding to catch the bus. What happened was that the assist principalhad a chat with him and let him know in no uncertain terms that it washis responsibility to write his assignments down and manage hismaterials, not

his teachers or his parents--he said they "had anunderstanding" . So, he has never had to send him back. Overnight, my son started completely writing his assignments down. Amazing what a little straight talk and a little masculine authoritycan do.I'm hoping the school picks up on this. They're too fuzzy on him inthe beginning--just like with the other kids, and my aspie isn'tpicking up on the body/facial language. He's not getting what he'ssupposed to be doing until they start putting things in moreblack-and-white terms after he's already in trouble. They need to bemore black-and-white from the get-go. So, I'm letting them know thatthe things they are doing after things are already not done areworking--he understands and listens at that point. They just need tobe explicit like that from the beginning.> I have suggested to the school since the rubber band incident (Asst.Principal

claimed it was� a VIOLENT ACT) that the school need to dosomething so this to prevent this from happening again. The aide couldtake a lot of weight off him.� You shouldn't have to do this, but I think you will have to be morespecific about what they need to be doing. It may be questionable,especially at his age, whether your son really needs an aide orwhether his IEP simply needs to be followed. It sounds like theydon't have a plan of action of what to do if the IEP is not beingfollowed. You may have to go down through his IEP item by item anddetermine why it is not working. For example, however they have itworded about the planner being filled in--ask them what they plan ondoing if it doesn't get filled in or whatever the actual accommodationis. It sounds like right now the plan of action is--do nothing. Ifthe assistant principal is the school administrator you are supposedto be

working with and he isn't getting it--put your concerns inwriting and copy them to either the principal, whoever the appropriateperson (whoever supervises IEPs) in the school district SPED dept, orboth. For example, in our school district the SPED directorsupervises 504s and the assist director supervises IEPs.I'd be really surprised if the administrators don't "get" this problema whole lot better than the teachers. I couldn't get anywhere at allwith my son's problems until I learned who was who in theadministration and learned how to work with them all. Since I have noway of knowing what really goes on behind the scenes, I'm not sureexactly how it works. It's not perfect and it is still a lot of work,but we're managing. I still have my job. :)And it is not that I don't talk to the teachers at all. I start withthem, but I've learned to stop when I can tell they aren't getting it.Then,

instead of spending all my time trying to work things out withthe teacher myself, I let whatever administrator I'm working with atthe time know what is going on and let them fix it. And sometimesI've had to repeat the process with the administrator' s boss, if Ican't get any action out of him/her.I've come to the conclusion that one has to do things differently withAsperger; it seems to be difficult to understand. I talk to otherspecial needs parents and they spend a lot of time talking to theirkids' teachers, but that hasn't worked for me. I think back and Ithink I probably even stopped my son from getting help by spending alot of time with teachers who didn't understand, trying to explain andgetting misunderstood over and over. It seems such teachers need helpfrom more specialized/ more highly trained educators.Hope this

helps!Ruth

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Wow...what a great teacher you were...too bad for the school that lost you....you sound like a wonderful teacher....my son's teacher says they don't have enough books for me to keep a copy a home.....she never emails me....she signs his planner...but if he has not filled it out ...she doesn't make him or put a note what needs to be done...I get notes later ...such as he didn't do his homework...I want to PULL MY HAIR OuT!!!! LOL and I thought this would be a great year !!! HA HA! JOKES on me. I will talk to the teachers at my school....

I guess it is time for my AGGRESSIVE ADVOCATE!!!

Jan

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From: <kmsmorris@...>Subject: ( ) Re: Index Card 1,2,3, already not working Date: Sunday, October 26, 2008, 8:27 AM

Is there anyway your son can have a "buddy" to help him fill in his planner everyday before he goes home. If you have a hard time reading the teacher's handwriting maybe another child's might be easier to read. Just a thought. I'm so sorry that you are having this issue but I agree that the teacher should be helping out a bit more.I taught for several years before having my kids and I always had a group of kids needing my signature on their planners before leaving for the day. I did check every one of them before they left and if they tried to sneak out before having me look at them I would call mom and dad to let them know. I also had many of the parent's email addresses so I could email them assignments if needed. I know it doesn't help if you don't have the books at home (our schools always have a copy at the public library including workbooks) but at leastyou'd know what his assignments

are.Just a thought and I hope it helps.>> Yesterday my son came home with the index card in his planner...but not > in the front of it ....taped to the page of yesterday's date...plus a > fouth item was added (Ha Ha)...> > I really didn't think it would work and it is not...today he came home > with nothing written in his planner and the teacher informed me he did > write a letter when the whole class was...I have a hard time reading > her handwritting and figuring it out....> > I knew this would not work....today was the worst as far as writing in > this planner....it was basically blank. > > And, sound like he did not do his classwork... so

now what...do i punish > him? > > Jan>

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Ohhhhhh, yeah! Maybe I will do that too - focus less on my kid. Ha ha ha! Who would do this if not for us? Augh!

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( ) Index Card 1,2,3, already not working Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 3:36 PM

Yesterday my son came home with the index card in his planner...but not in the front of it ....taped to the page of yesterday's date...plus a fouth item was added (Ha Ha)...I really didn't think it would work and it is not...today he came home with nothing written in his planner and the teacher informed me he did write a letter when the whole class was...I have a hard time reading her handwritting and figuring it out....I knew this would not work....today was the worst as far as writing in this planner....it was basically blank. And, sound like he did not do his classwork... so now what...do i punish him? Jan

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For typically developing kids, I would say this is true. But for kids with executive dysfunction, I would say it is not so simple to expect them to be "responsible." They will need guidance and help to get to the point of independence. Adaptive skills are a big problem for kids with HFA/AS. This is in contrast to their intelligence. But it's a problem nonetheless. For kids with a dx of HFA/AS, I would always look for a plan in place to teach them these skills and at the same time, a back up for when they fail.

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( ) Index Card 1,2,3, already not working> > Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 3:36 PM> > > > > > > Yesterday my son came home with the index card in his planner...but not > in the front of it ....taped to the page of yesterday's date...plus a > fouth item was added (Ha Ha)...> > I really didn't think it would work and it is not...today he came home > with nothing written in his planner and the teacher informed me he did > write a letter when the whole class was...I have a hard time reading > her handwritting and figuring it out....> > I knew this would not work....today was the worst as far as writing in > this planner....it was basically blank. > > And, sound like he did not do his classwork... so now what...do ipunish > him? > > Jan>

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