RE: [SPAM]teenage concerns

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Liz,

How does your son deal with other kids in school? My is in 10th grade at a public HS and she has 1 or 2 friends that she has had from midle school. tends to just lump everyone in specific catergories. she rarely makes a second judgment on anyone or anything. I just wondered if she was alone in this behavior.

[sPAM]( ) Anyone from OH/MA know about Summit Academy Schools?

Hi! I have a 16 year old son who has AS. I've been a member for awhile now and although I rarely have time to post messages, I come here on a daily basis -- I learn so much just from reading everyone's messages and replies!I'm hoping some of you can help me out. Summit Academy just opened a school for kids with Asperger's, NLD and ADHD in the Central Mass area. They've had schools in the OH area for several years now. I'm impressed with their philosophy and am just wondering if anyone here has any knowledge of or experience with them. Any info would help! Thanks for any help you can give me.Liz

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Liz have you watched the N.T. kids in school. in elementary school, its like a fashion show. they get into clicks: some clicks are of same interest ' soccer, tennis, baseball ' some clicks are the "dress code" - Kate & etc... the boys got their clicks too...My daughter N.T. 9 has her little click of friends and they won't include anyone else in their little click. Even the teacher noticed, at recess, if they won't include someone in their little click, they are told they can't play either unless they include their classmate. So, they stop playing. Ugh!!! I tell my daughter she shouldn't do that, how would she like it if that happened to her. She said it does, she can't get into "other clicks". So, this is why my son has a hard time. He doesn't understand the "CLICKS" he just invites himself, if someone lets him play, he goes for it. if not, he'll

play by himself. Sometimes, they(other kids) make up a game and tell him he needs to watch the "pretend" clubhouse. My son wants to make them happy and accept him, that for the whole recess, he'll watch the pretend clubhouse. He doesn't get it. and at the same time it doesn't bother him because he thinks they "included him" even though they are no place near him and playing something different. Also, the school doesn't think he needs social skills because when they ask him do you have friends? he says yes and names them all. The school would ask, do you play with them at recess? he'll say yes and explain the game. But they don't ask if they stayed there and played with him. instead, he's there watching the pretend clubhouse by himself. and worse yet, A mom invited my son to her sons birthday party. the next day, he told the boy, I can make it to your party. the boy said - no your

not!, I didn't invite you. my son said, but your mom did. the boy said, it's my party - don't come...So, my son asked me why the boy did that? UGH!!! Does see them after school or only during school? Gattone <shamrocks0627@...> wrote: Liz, How does your son deal with other kids in school? My is in 10th grade at a public HS and she has 1 or 2 friends that she has

had from midle school. tends to just lump everyone in specific catergories. she rarely makes a second judgment on anyone or anything. I just wondered if she was alone in this behavior. [sPAM]( ) Anyone from OH/MA know about Summit Academy

Schools? Hi! I have a 16 year old son who has AS. I've been a member for awhile now and although I rarely have time to post messages, I come here on a daily basis -- I learn so much just from reading everyone's messages and replies!I'm hoping some of you can help me out. Summit Academy just opened a school for kids with Asperger's, NLD and ADHD in the Central Mass area. They've had schools in the OH area for several years now. I'm impressed with their philosophy and am just wondering if anyone here has any knowledge of or experience with them. Any info would help! Thanks for any help you can give me.Liz __________________________________________________

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My daughter has gone through that, too. It is so sad.

Deb

In a message dated 10/24/2007 3:44:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, heidi.guarino@... writes:

Rose,

Your email just broke my heart. My son is just 4, but I have seen a couple of instances where kids were doing things in a group and he tried to participate, but in an awkward way that made them exclude him. I feel for you, and hope and pray each day that my son gets the social skills he needs before he is old enough for kids to be so cruel to him. It's great that your son doesn't seem bothered by it, but I can only imagine how painful it is for you to watch.

Good luck.

On 10/24/07, Rose <beachbodytan2002 > wrote:

Liz

have you watched the N.T. kids in school. in elementary school, its like a fashion show. they get into clicks: some clicks are of same interest ' soccer, tennis, baseball ' some clicks are the "dress code" - Kate & etc... the boys got their clicks too...My daughter N.T. 9 has her little click of friends and they won't include anyone else in their little click. Even the teacher noticed, at recess, if they won't include someone in their little click, they are told they can't play either unless they include their classmate. So, they stop playing. Ugh!!! I tell my daughter she shouldn't do that, how would she like it if that happened to her. She said it does, she can't get into "other clicks". So, this is why my son has a hard time. He doesn't understand the "CLICKS" he just invites himself, if someone lets him play, he goes for it. if not, he'll play by himself. Sometimes, they(other kids) make up a game and tell him he needs to watch the "pretend" clubhouse. My son wants to make them happy and accept him, that for the whole recess, he'll watch the pretend clubhouse. He doesn't get it. and at the same time it doesn't bother him because he thinks they "included him" even though they are no place near him and playing something different. Also, the school doesn't think he needs social skills because when they ask him do you have friends? he says yes and names them all. The school would ask, do you play with them at recess? he'll say yes and explain the game. But they don't ask if they stayed there and played with him. instead, he's there watching the pretend clubhouse by himself.

and worse yet, A mom invited my son to her sons birthday party. the next day, he told the boy, I can make it to your party. the boy said - no your not!, I didn't invite you. my son said, but your mom did. the boy said, it's my party - don't come...So, my son asked me why the boy did that? UGH!!!

Does see them after school or only during school? Gattone <shamrocks0627@ verizon.net> wrote:

Liz,

How does your son deal with other kids in school? My is in 10th grade at a public HS and she has 1 or 2 friends that she has had from midle school. tends to just lump everyone in specific catergories. she rarely makes a second judgment on anyone or anything. I just wondered if she was alone in this behavior.

[sPAM]( ) Anyone from OH/MA know about Summit Academy Schools?

Hi! I have a 16 year old son who has AS. I've been a member for awhile now and although I rarely have time to post messages, I come here on a daily basis -- I learn so much just from reading everyone's messages and replies!I'm hoping some of you can help me out. Summit Academy just opened a school for kids with Asperger's, NLD and ADHD in the Central Mass area. They've had schools in the OH area for several years now. I'm impressed with their philosophy and am just wondering if anyone here has any knowledge of or experience with them. Any info would help! Thanks for any help you can give me.Liz

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Rose,

Your email just broke my heart. My son is just 4, but I have seen a couple of instances where kids were doing things in a group and he tried to participate, but in an awkward way that made them exclude him. I feel for you, and hope and pray each day that my son gets the social skills he needs before he is old enough for kids to be so cruel to him. It's great that your son doesn't seem bothered by it, but I can only imagine how painful it is for you to watch.

Good luck.

On 10/24/07, Rose <beachbodytan2002@...> wrote:

Liz

have you watched the N.T. kids in school. in elementary school, its like a fashion show. they get into clicks: some clicks are of same interest ' soccer, tennis, baseball ' some clicks are the " dress code " - Kate & etc... the boys got their clicks too...My daughter N.T. 9 has her little click of friends and they won't include anyone else in their little click. Even the teacher noticed, at recess, if they won't include someone in their little click, they are told they can't play either unless they include their classmate. So, they stop playing. Ugh!!! I tell my daughter she shouldn't do that, how would she like it if that happened to her. She said it does, she can't get into " other clicks " . So, this is why my son has a hard time. He doesn't understand the " CLICKS " he just invites himself, if someone lets him play, he goes for it. if not, he'll play by himself. Sometimes, they(other kids) make up a game and tell him he needs to watch the " pretend " clubhouse. My son wants to make them happy and accept him, that for the whole recess, he'll watch the pretend clubhouse. He doesn't get it. and at the same time it doesn't bother him because he thinks they " included him " even though they are no place near him and playing something different. Also, the school doesn't think he needs social skills because when they ask him do you have friends? he says yes and names them all. The school would ask, do you play with them at recess? he'll say yes and explain the game. But they don't ask if they stayed there and played with him. instead, he's there watching the pretend clubhouse by himself.

and worse yet, A mom invited my son to her sons birthday party. the next day, he told the boy, I can make it to your party. the boy said - no your not!, I didn't invite you. my son said, but your mom did. the boy said, it's my party - don't come...So, my son asked me why the boy did that? UGH!!!

Does see them after school or only during school? Gattone <shamrocks0627@

verizon.net> wrote:

Liz,

How does your son deal with other kids in school? My is in 10th grade at a public HS and she has 1 or 2 friends that she has had from midle school. tends to just lump everyone in specific catergories. she rarely makes a second judgment on anyone or anything. I just wondered if she was alone in this behavior.

[sPAM]( ) Anyone from OH/MA know about Summit Academy Schools?

Hi! I have a 16 year old son who has AS. I've been a member for awhile now and although I rarely have time to post messages, I come here on a daily basis -- I learn so much just from reading everyone's messages and replies!I'm hoping some of you can help me out. Summit Academy just opened a school for kids with Asperger's, NLD and ADHD in the Central Mass area. They've had schools in the OH area for several years now. I'm impressed with their philosophy and am just wondering if anyone here has any knowledge of or experience with them. Any info would help! Thanks for any help you can give me.Liz

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That happened to one my friends. I think the trick is to invite the whole class. That is what I always did. Then you don't get kids saying, "Well, I'm not going because she's not going." Only a few kids did not come. In 5th grade, was in a self-contained special ed class. I invited everyone. the teacher told me, "you don't know how much it means to these kids that all of them received an invitation!" It made me feel good. hasn't had a party since 6th grade - I was considering a Sweet 16 party for her next year. Has anyone here done that?

Deb

In a message dated 10/24/2007 10:46:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, molsbos@... writes:

Mmm birthday parties….My dd once invited 8 girls for her birthday party. We at the time did not know that in this country…or at least where we lived, people would confirm the invitation if they were planning on coming. You know what? No one showed up…not one single girl….that was so sad….

Luckily she is one of twins and the kids my son had invited did show up, so there still were kids…but still…..

I tend to not even invite anyone anymore…so there can not be a disappointment there…

Chiara

On 10/24/07, Rose <beachbodytan2002 > wrote:

Liz

have you watched the N.T. kids in school. in elementary school, its like a fashion show. they get into clicks: some clicks are of same interest ' soccer, tennis, baseball ' some clicks are the "dress code" - Kate & etc... the boys got their clicks too...My daughter N.T. 9 has her little click of friends and they won't include anyone else in their little click. Even the teacher noticed, at recess, if they won't include someone in their little click, they are told they can't play either unless they include their classmate. So, they stop playing. Ugh!!! I tell my daughter she shouldn't do that, how would she like it if that happened to her. She said it does, she can't get into "other clicks". So, this is why my son has a hard time. He doesn't understand the "CLICKS" he just invites himself, if someone lets him play, he goes for it. if not, he'll play by himself. Sometimes, they(other kids) make up a game and tell him he needs to watch the "pretend" clubhouse. My son wants to make them happy and accept him, that for the whole recess, he'll watch the pretend clubhouse. He doesn't get it. and at the same time it doesn't bother him because he thinks they "included him" even though they are no place near him and playing something different. Also, the school doesn't think he needs social skills because when they ask him do you have friends? he says yes and names them all. The school would ask, do you play with them at recess? he'll say yes and explain the game. But they don't ask if they stayed there and played with him. instead, he's there watching the pretend clubhouse by himself.

and worse yet, A mom invited my son to her sons birthday party. the next day, he told the boy, I can make it to your party. the boy said - no your not!, I didn't invite you. my son said, but your mom did. the boy said, it's my party - don't come...So, my son asked me why the boy did that? UGH!!!

Does see them after school or only during school? Gattone <shamrocks0627@ verizon.net> wrote:

Liz,

How does your son deal with other kids in school? My is in 10th grade at a public HS and she has 1 or 2 friends that she has had from midle school. tends to just lump everyone in specific catergories. she rarely makes a second judgment on anyone or anything. I just wondered if she was alone in this behavior.

[sPAM]( ) Anyone from OH/MA know about Summit Academy Schools?

Hi! I have a 16 year old son who has AS. I've been a member for awhile now and although I rarely have time to post messages, I come here on a daily basis -- I learn so much just from reading everyone's messages and replies!I'm hoping some of you can help me out. Summit Academy just opened a school for kids with Asperger's, NLD and ADHD in the Central Mass area. They've had schools in the OH area for several years now. I'm impressed with their philosophy and am just wondering if anyone here has any knowledge of or experience with them. Any info would help! Thanks for any help you can give me.Liz

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Mmm birthday parties….My dd once

invited 8 girls for her birthday party. We at the time did not know that in

this country…or at least where we lived, people would confirm the

invitation if they were planning on coming. You know what? No one showed up…not

one single girl….that was so sad….

Luckily she is one of twins and the kids

my son had invited did show up, so there still were kids…but still…..

I tend to not even invite anyone anymore…so

there can not be a disappointment there…

Chiara

On 10/24/07, Rose

<beachbodytan2002 >

wrote:

Liz

have you watched the N.T. kids in school.

in elementary school, its like a fashion show. they get into

clicks: some clicks are of same interest ' soccer, tennis, baseball '

some clicks are the " dress code " - Kate &

etc... the boys got their clicks too...My daughter N.T. 9 has her little

click of friends and they won't include anyone else in their little

click. Even the teacher noticed, at recess, if they won't include someone

in their little click, they are told they can't play either unless they

include their classmate. So, they stop playing. Ugh!!! I tell

my daughter she shouldn't do that, how would she like it if that happened to

her. She said it does, she can't get into " other clicks " .

So, this is why my son has a hard time. He doesn't understand the

" CLICKS " he just invites himself, if someone lets him play, he

goes for it. if not, he'll play by himself. Sometimes, they(other

kids) make up a game and tell him he needs to watch the

" pretend " clubhouse. My son wants to make them happy and accept

him, that for the whole recess, he'll watch the pretend clubhouse. He

doesn't get it. and at the same time it doesn't bother him because he

thinks they " included him " even though they are no place near him and

playing something different. Also, the school doesn't think he needs

social skills because when they ask him do you have friends? he says yes

and names them all. The school would ask, do you play with them at

recess? he'll say yes and explain the game. But they don't ask if

they stayed there and played with him. instead, he's there watching the

pretend clubhouse by himself.

and worse yet, A mom invited my son to her sons

birthday party. the next day, he told the boy, I can make it to your

party. the boy said - no your not!, I didn't invite you. my son

said, but your mom did. the boy said, it's my party - don't come...So, my

son asked me why the boy did that? UGH!!!

Does see them after school or only during

school?

Gattone <shamrocks0627@

verizon.net> wrote:

Liz,

How does your son deal with other

kids in school? My is in 10th grade at a public HS and she has 1 or 2

friends that she has had from midle school. tends to just lump everyone

in specific catergories. she rarely makes a second judgment on anyone or

anything. I just wondered if she was alone in this behavior.

[sPAM]( ) Anyone from OH/MA know about Summit Academy

Schools?

Hi! I have a 16 year old son who has AS. I've been a

member for

awhile now and although I rarely have time to post messages, I come

here on a daily basis -- I learn so much just from reading everyone's

messages and replies!

I'm hoping some of you can help me out. Summit Academy

just opened a

school for kids with Asperger's, NLD and ADHD in the Central Mass area.

They've had schools in the OH area for several years now. I'm impressed

with their philosophy and am just wondering if anyone here has any

knowledge of or experience with them. Any info would help! Thanks for

any help you can give me.

Liz

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Deb, Just curious, Did say 'she' didn't want someone to come to her party when you invited the whole class? I did that up to 2nd grade, invite the whole class. then my son started saying he doesn't like (3) kids because they always tease him and get him in trouble. in 3rd grade, I 'called' the kids he picked for his party. When I got to the school to pick him up, there was so many kids asking about his party. I didn't know what to tell these kids - 3rd graders - the ones that were invited (per phone call) told other kids that they were invited. so, they and others met us outside to talk about the party. it ended up, we had more kids than if I just invited his whole class. well anyway, in 4th grade, we didn't invite anyone from school and just celebrated it ourselves as a family. Also, when my son has parties, everyone invited will come except 1 or 2 that was away for that weekend.

What I don't understand is: Why they don't invite him to their parties?.debmetsfan@... wrote: That happened to one my friends. I think the trick is to invite the whole class. That is what I always did. Then you don't get kids saying, "Well, I'm not going because she's not going." Only a few kids did not come. In 5th grade, was in a self-contained special ed class. I invited everyone. the teacher told me, "you

don't know how much it means to these kids that all of them received an invitation!" It made me feel good. hasn't had a party since 6th grade - I was considering a Sweet 16 party for her next year. Has anyone here done that? Deb In a message dated 10/24/2007 10:46:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, molsboscomcast (DOT) net writes: Mmm birthday parties….My dd once invited 8 girls for her birthday party. We at the time did not know that in this country…or at least where we lived, people would confirm the invitation if they were planning

on coming. You know what? No one showed up…not one single girl….that was so sad…. Luckily she is one of twins and the kids my son had invited did show up, so there still were kids…but still….. I tend to not even invite anyone anymore…so there can not be a disappointment there… Chiara On 10/24/07, Rose <beachbodytan2002 > wrote: Liz have you watched the N.T. kids in school. in elementary school, its like a fashion show. they get into clicks: some clicks are of same interest ' soccer, tennis, baseball ' some clicks are the "dress code" - Kate & etc... the boys got their clicks too...My daughter N.T. 9 has her little click of friends and they won't include anyone else in their little click. Even the teacher noticed, at recess, if they won't include someone in their little click, they are told they can't play either unless they include their classmate. So, they stop playing. Ugh!!! I tell my daughter she shouldn't do that, how would she like it if that happened to her. She said it does, she can't get into "other clicks". So, this is why my son has a hard time. He doesn't understand the "CLICKS"

he just invites himself, if someone lets him play, he goes for it. if not, he'll play by himself. Sometimes, they(other kids) make up a game and tell him he needs to watch the "pretend" clubhouse. My son wants to make them happy and accept him, that for the whole recess, he'll watch the pretend clubhouse. He doesn't get it. and at the same time it doesn't bother him because he thinks they "included him" even though they are no place near him and playing something different. Also, the school doesn't think he needs social skills because when they ask him do you have friends? he says yes and names them all. The school would ask, do you play with them at recess? he'll say yes and explain the game. But they don't ask if they stayed there and played with him. instead, he's there watching the pretend clubhouse by himself. and worse yet, A mom invited my son to her sons birthday party. the next day, he told the boy, I can make it to your party. the boy said - no your not!, I didn't invite you. my son said, but your mom did. the boy said, it's my party - don't come...So, my son asked me why the boy did that? UGH!!! Does see them after school or only during school? Gattone <shamrocks0627@ verizon.net> wrote: Liz, How does your son deal with other kids in school? My is in 10th grade at a public HS and she has 1 or 2 friends that she has had from midle school. tends to just lump everyone in specific catergories. she rarely makes a second judgment on anyone or anything. I just wondered if she was alone in this behavior. [sPAM]( ) Anyone from OH/MA know about Summit Academy Schools? Hi! I have a 16 year old son who has AS. I've been a member for awhile now and although I rarely have time to post messages, I come here on a daily basis -- I learn so much just from reading everyone's messages and replies!I'm hoping some of you can help me out. Summit Academy just opened a school for kids with Asperger's, NLD and ADHD in the Central Mass area. They've had schools in the OH area for several years now. I'm impressed with their philosophy and am just wondering if anyone here has any knowledge of or experience with them. Any info would help! Thanks for any help you can give

me.Liz __________________________________________________

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Chiara, that is so sad. Some parents, do have morals and out of respect, will call if they can't make a party and some will 'out of respect' still send a gift. I always try to call. If my budget allows me I'll also send a gift, if I can't make it. (I'm speaking for my daughter) don't have that problem with my son. Chiara <molsbos@...> wrote: Mmm birthday parties….My dd once invited 8 girls for her birthday party. We at the time did not know that in this country…or at least where we lived, people would confirm the invitation if they were planning on coming. You know what? No one showed up…not one single girl….that was so sad…. Luckily she is one of twins and the kids my son had invited did show up, so there still were kids…but still….. I tend to not even invite anyone anymore…so there can not be a disappointment there… Chiara On 10/24/07, Rose <beachbodytan2002 > wrote: Liz have you watched the N.T. kids in school. in elementary school, its like a fashion show. they get into clicks: some clicks are of same interest ' soccer, tennis, baseball ' some clicks are the "dress code" - Kate & etc... the boys got their clicks too...My daughter N.T. 9 has her little click of friends and they won't include anyone else in their little click. Even the teacher noticed, at recess, if they won't include someone in their little click, they are told they can't play either unless they include their classmate. So, they stop playing. Ugh!!! I tell my daughter she shouldn't do that, how would she like it if that happened to

her. She said it does, she can't get into "other clicks". So, this is why my son has a hard time. He doesn't understand the "CLICKS" he just invites himself, if someone lets him play, he goes for it. if not, he'll play by himself. Sometimes, they(other kids) make up a game and tell him he needs to watch the "pretend" clubhouse. My son wants to make them happy and accept him, that for the whole recess, he'll watch the pretend clubhouse. He doesn't get it. and at the same time it doesn't bother him because he thinks they "included him" even though they are no place near him and playing something different. Also, the school doesn't think he needs social skills because when they ask him do you have friends? he says yes and names them all. The school would ask, do you play with them at recess? he'll say yes and explain the game. But they don't ask if they stayed there and played with

him. instead, he's there watching the pretend clubhouse by himself. and worse yet, A mom invited my son to her sons birthday party. the next day, he told the boy, I can make it to your party. the boy said - no your not!, I didn't invite you. my son said, but your mom did. the boy said, it's my party - don't come...So, my son asked me why the boy did that? UGH!!! Does see them after school or only during school? Gattone <shamrocks0627@ verizon.net>

wrote: Liz, How does your son deal with other kids in school? My is in 10th grade at a public HS and she has 1 or 2 friends that she has had from midle school. tends to just lump everyone in specific catergories. she rarely makes a second judgment on anyone or anything. I just wondered if she was alone in this behavior. [sPAM]( ) Anyone from OH/MA know about Summit Academy

Schools? Hi! I have a 16 year old son who has AS. I've been a member for awhile now and although I rarely have time to post messages, I come here on a daily basis -- I learn so much just from reading everyone's messages and replies!I'm hoping some of you can help me out. Summit Academy just opened a school for kids with Asperger's, NLD and ADHD in the Central Mass area. They've had schools in the OH area for several years now. I'm impressed with their philosophy and am just wondering if anyone here has any knowledge of or experience with them. Any info would help! Thanks for any

help you can give me.Liz __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

There are kids who won't come if there friends are not invited. That is why I invited the whole class. A couple of times, did say she didn't want someone, but I told her that "you invite everyone or no one." That always changed her mind.

I don't understand why she doesn't get invited, either. But I figure it saves me money! She was upset last weekend when she wasn't invited to that party, especially when her friend kept giving her all the details about it.

Deb

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Deb,

Just curious, Did say 'she' didn't want someone to come to her party when you invited the whole class? I did that up to 2nd grade, invite the whole class. then my son started saying he doesn't like (3) kids because they always tease him and get him in trouble. in 3rd grade, I 'called' the kids he picked for his party. When I got to the school to pick him up, there was so many kids asking about his party. I didn't know what to tell these kids - 3rd graders - the ones that were invited (per phone call) told other kids that they were invited. so, they and others met us outside to talk about the party. it ended up, we had more kids than if I just invited his whole class. well anyway, in 4th grade, we didn't invite anyone from school and just celebrated it ourselves as a family. Also, when my son has parties, everyone invited will come except 1 or 2 that was away for that weekend. What I don't understand is: Why they don't invite him to their parties?.

debmetsfanaol wrote:

That happened to one my friends. I think the trick is to invite the whole class. That is what I always did. Then you don't get kids saying, "Well, I'm not going because she's not going." Only a few kids did not come. In 5th grade, was in a self-contained special ed class. I invited everyone. the teacher told me, "you don't know how much it means to these kids that all of them received an invitation!" It made me feel good. hasn't had a party since 6th grade - I was considering a Sweet 16 party for her next year. Has anyone here done that?

Deb

In a message dated 10/24/2007 10:46:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, molsboscomcast (DOT) net writes:

Mmm birthday parties….My dd once invited 8 girls for her birthday party. We at the time did not know that in this country…or at least where we lived, people would confirm the invitation if they were planning on coming. You know what? No one showed up…not one single girl….that was so sad….

Luckily she is one of twins and the kids my son had invited did show up, so there still were kids…but still…..

I tend to not even invite anyone anymore…so there can not be a disappointment there…

Chiara

On 10/24/07, Rose <beachbodytan2002 > wrote:

Liz

have you watched the N.T. kids in school. in elementary school, its like a fashion show. they get into clicks: some clicks are of same interest ' soccer, tennis, baseball ' some clicks are the "dress code" - Kate & etc... the boys got their clicks too...My daughter N.T. 9 has her little click of friends and they won't include anyone else in their little click. Even the teacher noticed, at recess, if they won't include someone in their little click, they are told they can't play either unless they include their classmate. So, they stop playing. Ugh!!! I tell my daughter she shouldn't do that, how would she like it if that happened to her. She said it does, she can't get into "other clicks". So, this is why my son has a hard time. He doesn't understand the "CLICKS" he just invites himself, if someone lets him play, he goes for it. if not, he'll play by himself. Sometimes, they(other kids) make up a game and tell him he needs to watch the "pretend" clubhouse. My son wants to make them happy and accept him, that for the whole recess, he'll watch the pretend clubhouse. He doesn't get it. and at the same time it doesn't bother him because he thinks they "included him" even though they are no place near him and playing something different. Also, the school doesn't think he needs social skills because when they ask him do you have friends? he says yes and names them all. The school would ask, do you play with them at recess? he'll say yes and explain the game. But they don't ask if they stayed there and played with him. instead, he's there watching the pretend clubhouse by himself.

and worse yet, A mom invited my son to her sons birthday party. the next day, he told the boy, I can make it to your party. the boy said - no your not!, I didn't invite you. my son said, but your mom did. the boy said, it's my party - don't come...So, my son asked me why the boy did that? UGH!!!

Does see them after school or only during school?

Gattone <shamrocks0627@ verizon.net> wrote:

Liz,

How does your son deal with other kids in school? My is in 10th grade at a public HS and she has 1 or 2 friends that she has had from midle school. tends to just lump everyone in specific catergories. she rarely makes a second judgment on anyone or anything. I just wondered if she was alone in this behavior.

[sPAM]( ) Anyone from OH/MA know about Summit Academy Schools?

Hi! I have a 16 year old son who has AS. I've been a member for

awhile now and although I rarely have time to post messages, I come

here on a daily basis -- I learn so much just from reading everyone's

messages and replies!

I'm hoping some of you can help me out. Summit Academy just opened a

school for kids with Asperger's, NLD and ADHD in the Central Mass area.

They've had schools in the OH area for several years now. I'm impressed

with their philosophy and am just wondering if anyone here has any

knowledge of or experience with them. Any info would help! Thanks for

any help you can give me.

Liz

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Oh, that is sad. One thing that helped us was to have birthday parties somewhere fabulous, like a laser tag place. My son had laser tag birthday parties for years, and even when he didn't have any real friends, everybody (even the girls) came to his laser tag parties and had a good time.Still. That was mean for nobody to show up.LizOn Oct 24, 2007, at 10:44 PM, Chiara wrote:Mmm birthday parties….My dd once invited 8 girls for her birthday party. We at the time did not know that in this country…or at least where we lived, people would confirm the invitation if they were planning on coming. You know what? No one showed up…not one single girl….that was so sad…. Luckily she is one of twins and the kids my son had invited did show up, so there still were kids…but still….. I tend to not  even invite anyone anymore…so there can not be a disappointment there… Chiara On 10/24/07, Rose <beachbodytan2002 > wrote:Liz have you watched the N.T. kids in school.  in elementary school, its like a fashion show.  they get into clicks:  some clicks are of same interest ' soccer, tennis, baseball ' some clicks are the "dress code" - Kate & etc...  the boys got their clicks too...My daughter N.T. 9 has her little click of friends and they won't include anyone else in their little click.  Even the teacher noticed, at recess, if they won't include someone in their little click, they are told they can't play either unless they include their classmate.  So, they stop playing.  Ugh!!!  I tell my daughter she shouldn't do that, how would she like it if that happened to her.  She said it does, she can't get into "other clicks".  So, this is why my son has a hard time.  He doesn't understand the "CLICKS"  he just invites himself, if someone lets him play, he goes for it.  if not, he'll play by himself.  Sometimes, they(other kids) make up a game and tell him he needs to watch the "pretend" clubhouse.  My son wants to make them happy and accept him, that for the whole recess, he'll watch the pretend clubhouse.  He doesn't get it.  and at the same time it doesn't bother him because he thinks they "included him" even though they are no place near him and playing something different.  Also, the school doesn't think he needs social skills because when they ask him do you have friends?  he says yes and names them all.  The school would ask, do you play with them at recess?  he'll say yes and explain the game.  But they don't ask if they stayed there and played with him.  instead, he's there watching the pretend clubhouse by himself.and worse yet,  A mom invited my son to her sons birthday party.  the next day, he told the boy, I can make it to your party.  the boy said - no your not!, I didn't invite you.  my son said, but your mom did.  the boy said, it's my party - don't come...So, my son asked me why the boy did that?  UGH!!!Does  see them after school or only during school? Gattone <shamrocks0627@ verizon.net> wrote:Liz, How does your son deal with other kids in school? My is in 10th grade at a public HS and she has 1 or 2 friends that she has had from midle school. tends to just lump everyone in specific catergories. she rarely makes a second judgment on anyone or anything. I just wondered if she was alone in this behavior.  [sPAM]( ) Anyone from OH/MA know about Summit Academy Schools? Hi! I have a 16 year old son who has AS. I've been a member for awhile now and although I rarely have time to post messages, I come here on a daily basis -- I learn so much just from reading everyone's messages and replies!I'm hoping some of you can help me out. Summit Academy just opened a school for kids with Asperger's, NLD and ADHD in the Central Mass area.They've had schools in the OH area for several years now. I'm impressed with their philosophy and am just wondering if anyone here has any knowledge of or experience with them. Any info would help! Thanks for any help you can give me.Liz  __________________________________________________

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Deb, Kids can be MEAN. I guess she has to keep talking about a party that wasn't invited to because THAT'S what makes her feel good. ugh. LOL, I said the same thing to myself. saves me money... but still, it would be nice to be invited to a party.debmetsfan@... wrote: There are kids who won't come if there friends are not invited. That is why I invited the whole class. A couple of times, did say she didn't want someone, but I told her that "you invite

everyone or no one." That always changed her mind.I don't understand why she doesn't get invited, either. But I figure it saves me money! She was upset last weekend when she wasn't invited to that party, especially when her friend kept giving her all the details about it.Deb Re: [sPAM]( ) teenage concerns Deb, Just curious, Did say 'she' didn't want someone to come to her party when you invited the whole class? I did that up to 2nd grade, invite the whole class. then my son started saying he doesn't like (3) kids because they always tease him and get him in

trouble. in 3rd grade, I 'called' the kids he picked for his party. When I got to the school to pick him up, there was so many kids asking about his party. I didn't know what to tell these kids - 3rd graders - the ones that were invited (per phone call) told other kids that they were invited. so, they and others met us outside to talk about the party. it ended up, we had more kids than if I just invited his whole class. well anyway, in 4th grade, we didn't invite anyone from school and just celebrated it ourselves as a family. Also, when my son has parties, everyone invited will come except 1 or 2 that was away for that weekend. What I don't understand is: Why they don't invite him to their parties?.debmetsfanaol wrote: That happened to one my friends. I think the trick is to invite the whole class. That is what I always did. Then you don't get kids saying, "Well, I'm not going because she's not going." Only a few kids did not come. In 5th grade, was in a self-contained special ed class. I invited everyone. the teacher told me, "you don't know how much it means to these kids that all of them received an invitation!" It made me feel good. hasn't had a party since 6th grade - I was considering a Sweet 16 party for her next year. Has anyone here done that? Deb In a message dated 10/24/2007 10:46:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, molsboscomcast (DOT) net writes: Mmm birthday parties….My dd once invited 8 girls for her birthday party. We at the time did not know that in this country…or at least where we lived, people would confirm the invitation if they were planning on coming. You know what? No one showed up…not one single girl….that was so sad…. Luckily she is one of twins and the kids my son had invited did show up, so there still were kids…but still….. I tend to not even invite anyone anymore…so there can not be a disappointment there… Chiara On 10/24/07, Rose <beachbodytan2002 > wrote: Liz have you watched the N.T. kids in school. in elementary school, its like a fashion show. they get into clicks: some clicks are of same interest ' soccer, tennis, baseball ' some clicks are the "dress code" - Kate & etc... the boys got their clicks too...My daughter N.T. 9 has her little click of friends and they won't include anyone else in their little click. Even the teacher noticed, at recess, if they won't include someone in their little click, they are told they

can't play either unless they include their classmate. So, they stop playing. Ugh!!! I tell my daughter she shouldn't do that, how would she like it if that happened to her. She said it does, she can't get into "other clicks". So, this is why my son has a hard time. He doesn't understand the "CLICKS" he just invites himself, if someone lets him play, he goes for it. if not, he'll play by himself. Sometimes, they(other kids) make up a game and tell him he needs to watch the "pretend" clubhouse. My son wants to make them happy and accept him, that for the whole recess, he'll watch the pretend clubhouse. He doesn't get it. and at the same time it doesn't bother him because he thinks they "included him" even though they are no place near him and playing something different. Also, the school doesn't think he needs social skills because when they ask him do you have friends? he says yes

and names them all. The school would ask, do you play with them at recess? he'll say yes and explain the game. But they don't ask if they stayed there and played with him. instead, he's there watching the pretend clubhouse by himself. and worse yet, A mom invited my son to her sons birthday party. the next day, he told the boy, I can make it to your party. the boy said - no your not!, I didn't invite you. my son said, but your mom did. the boy said, it's my party - don't come...So, my son asked me why the boy did that? UGH!!! Does see them after school or only during school? Gattone <shamrocks0627@ verizon.net> wrote: Liz, How does your son deal with other kids in school? My is in 10th grade at a public HS and she has 1 or 2 friends that she has had from midle school. tends to just lump everyone in specific catergories. she rarely makes a second judgment on

anyone or anything. I just wondered if she was alone in this behavior. [sPAM]( ) Anyone from OH/MA know about Summit Academy Schools? Hi! I have a 16 year old son who has AS. I've been a member for awhile now and although I rarely have time to post messages, I come here on a daily basis -- I learn so much just from reading everyone's messages and replies!I'm hoping some of you can help me out. Summit Academy just opened a school for kids with Asperger's, NLD and ADHD in the Central Mass area. They've had schools in the OH area for several years now. I'm impressed with their

philosophy and am just wondering if anyone here has any knowledge of or experience with them. Any info would help! Thanks for any help you can give me.Liz __________________________________________________

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Genna is very good friends with but she doesn't have birthday parties. She didn't have one last year or the year before, anyway.

Deb

In a message dated 10/25/2007 12:21:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, beachbodytan2002@... writes:

Deb,

Kids can be MEAN. I guess she has to keep talking about a party that wasn't invited to because THAT'S what makes her feel good. ugh.

LOL, I said the same thing to myself. saves me money...

but still, it would be nice to be invited to a party.debmetsfanaol wrote:

There are kids who won't come if there friends are not invited. That is why I invited the whole class. A couple of times, did say she didn't want someone, but I told her that "you invite everyone or no one." That always changed her mind.I don't understand why she doesn't get invited, either. But I figure it saves me money! She was upset last weekend when she wasn't invited to that party, especially when her friend kept giving her all the details about it.Deb Re: [sPAM]( ) teenage concerns

Deb,

Just curious, Did say 'she' didn't want someone to come to her party when you invited the whole class? I did that up to 2nd grade, invite the whole class. then my son started saying he doesn't like (3) kids because they always tease him and get him in trouble. in 3rd grade, I 'called' the kids he picked for his party. When I got to the school to pick him up, there was so many kids asking about his party. I didn't know what to tell these kids - 3rd graders - the ones that were invited (per phone call) told other kids that they were invited. so, they and others met us outside to talk about the party. it ended up, we had more kids than if I just invited his whole class. well anyway, in 4th grade, we didn't invite anyone from school and just celebrated it ourselves as a family. Also, when my son has parties, everyone invited will come except 1 or 2 that was away for that weekend. What I don't understand is: Why they don't invite him to their parties?.debmetsfanaol wrote:

That happened to one my friends. I think the trick is to invite the whole class. That is what I always did. Then you don't get kids saying, "Well, I'm not going because she's not going." Only a few kids did not come. In 5th grade, was in a self-contained special ed class. I invited everyone. the teacher told me, "you don't know how much it means to these kids that all of them received an invitation!" It made me feel good. hasn't had a party since 6th grade - I was considering a Sweet 16 party for her next year. Has anyone here done that?

Deb

In a message dated 10/24/2007 10:46:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, molsboscomcast (DOT) net writes:

Mmm birthday parties….My dd once invited 8 girls for her birthday party. We at the time did not know that in this country…or at least where we lived, people would confirm the invitation if they were planning on coming. You know what? No one showed up…not one single girl….that was so sad….

Luckily she is one of twins and the kids my son had invited did show up, so there still were kids…but still…..

I tend to not even invite anyone anymore…so there can not be a disappointment there…

Chiara

On 10/24/07, Rose <beachbodytan2002 > wrote:

Liz

have you watched the N.T. kids in school. in elementary school, its like a fashion show. they get into clicks: some clicks are of same interest ' soccer, tennis, baseball ' some clicks are the "dress code" - Kate & etc... the boys got their clicks too...My daughter N.T. 9 has her little click of friends and they won't include anyone else in their little click. Even the teacher noticed, at recess, if they won't include someone in their little click, they are told they can't play either unless they include their classmate. So, they stop playing. Ugh!!! I tell my daughter she shouldn't do that, how would she like it if that happened to her. She said it does, she can't get into "other clicks". So, this is why my son has a hard time. He doesn't understand the "CLICKS" he just invites himself, if someone lets him play, he goes for it. if not, he'll play by himself. Sometimes, they(other kids) make up a game and tell him he needs to watch the "pretend" clubhouse. My son wants to make them happy and accept him, that for the whole recess, he'll watch the pretend clubhouse. He doesn't get it. and at the same time it doesn't bother him because he thinks they "included him" even though they are no place near him and playing something different. Also, the school doesn't think he needs social skills because when they ask him do you have friends? he says yes and names them all. The school would ask, do you play with them at recess? he'll say yes and explain the game. But they don't ask if they stayed there and played with him. instead, he's there watching the pretend clubhouse by himself.

and worse yet, A mom invited my son to her sons birthday party. the next day, he told the boy, I can make it to your party. the boy said - no your not!, I didn't invite you. my son said, but your mom did. the boy said, it's my party - don't come...So, my son asked me why the boy did that? UGH!!!

Does see them after school or only during school? Gattone <shamrocks0627@ verizon.net> wrote:

Liz,

How does your son deal with other kids in school? My is in 10th grade at a public HS and she has 1 or 2 friends that she has had from midle school. tends to just lump everyone in specific catergories. she rarely makes a second judgment on anyone or anything. I just wondered if she was alone in this behavior.

[sPAM]( ) Anyone from OH/MA know about Summit Academy Schools?

Hi! I have a 16 year old son who has AS. I've been a member for awhile now and although I rarely have time to post messages, I come here on a daily basis -- I learn so much just from reading everyone's messages and replies!I'm hoping some of you can help me out. Summit Academy just opened a school for kids with Asperger's, NLD and ADHD in the Central Mass area. They've had schools in the OH area for several years now. I'm impressed with their philosophy and am just wondering if anyone here has any knowledge of or experience with them. Any info would help! Thanks for any help you can give me.Liz

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Ick. THis is why we yanked Ian out for this year and why me may all of them when they each finish 5th grade. Ick. All the "mean crap" makes my stomach hurt. RobinRose <beachbodytan2002@...> wrote: Liz have you watched the N.T. kids in school. in elementary school, its like a fashion show. they get into clicks: some clicks are of same interest ' soccer, tennis, baseball ' some clicks are the "dress code" - Kate & etc...

the boys got their clicks too...My daughter N.T. 9 has her little click of friends and they won't include anyone else in their little click. Even the teacher noticed, at recess, if they won't include someone in their little click, they are told they can't play either unless they include their classmate. So, they stop playing. Ugh!!! I tell my daughter she shouldn't do that, how would she like it if that happened to her. She said it does, she can't get into "other clicks". So, this is why my son has a hard time. He doesn't understand the "CLICKS" he just invites himself, if someone lets him play, he goes for it. if not, he'll play by himself. Sometimes, they(other kids) make up a game and tell him he needs to watch the "pretend" clubhouse. My son wants to make them happy and accept him, that for the whole recess, he'll watch the pretend clubhouse. He doesn't get it. and at the same time

it doesn't bother him because he thinks they "included him" even though they are no place near him and playing something different. Also, the school doesn't think he needs social skills because when they ask him do you have friends? he says yes and names them all. The school would ask, do you play with them at recess? he'll say yes and explain the game. But they don't ask if they stayed there and played with him. instead, he's there watching the pretend clubhouse by himself. and worse yet, A mom invited my son to her sons birthday party. the next day, he told the boy, I can make it to your party. the boy said - no your not!, I didn't invite you. my son said, but your mom did. the boy said, it's my party - don't come...So, my son asked me why the boy did that? UGH!!! Does see them after school or only during school? Gattone

<shamrocks0627verizon (DOT) net> wrote: Liz, How does your son deal with other kids in school? My is in 10th grade at a public HS and she has 1 or 2 friends that she has had from midle school. tends to just lump everyone in specific catergories. she rarely makes a second judgment on anyone or anything. I just wondered if she was alone in this behavior. [sPAM]( ) Anyone from OH/MA know about Summit Academy Schools? Hi! I have a 16 year old son who has AS. I've been a member for awhile now and although I rarely have time to post messages, I come here on a daily basis -- I learn so much just from reading everyone's messages and replies!I'm hoping some of you can help me out. Summit Academy just opened a school for kids with Asperger's, NLD and ADHD in the Central Mass area. They've had schools in the OH area for several years now. I'm impressed

with their philosophy and am just wondering if anyone here has any knowledge of or experience with them. Any info would help! Thanks for any help you can give me.Liz __________________________________________________

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Robin, I've been reading your post that you've been posting on Ian & school and I'm praying for you everything works out including the school paying for EVERYTHING. when more parents follow through with something like you have been doing, and it cost the schools money. I bet they would consider the doctors dx and parents concerns!!! *smile* Rose and/or Robin Lemke <jrisjs@...> wrote: Ick. THis is why we yanked Ian out for

this year and why me may all of them when they each finish 5th grade. Ick. All the "mean crap" makes my stomach hurt. RobinRose <beachbodytan2002 > wrote: Liz have you watched the N.T. kids in school. in elementary school, its like a fashion show. they get into clicks: some clicks are of same interest ' soccer, tennis, baseball ' some clicks are the "dress code" - Kate & etc... the boys got their clicks too...My daughter N.T. 9 has her little click of friends and they won't include anyone else in their little click. Even the teacher noticed, at recess, if they won't include someone in their little click, they are told they can't play either unless they include their classmate. So, they stop playing.

Ugh!!! I tell my daughter she shouldn't do that, how would she like it if that happened to her. She said it does, she can't get into "other clicks". So, this is why my son has a hard time. He doesn't understand the "CLICKS" he just invites himself, if someone lets him play, he goes for it. if not, he'll play by himself. Sometimes, they(other kids) make up a game and tell him he needs to watch the "pretend" clubhouse. My son wants to make them happy and accept him, that for the whole recess, he'll watch the pretend clubhouse. He doesn't get it. and at the same time it doesn't bother him because he thinks they "included him" even though they are no place near him and playing something different. Also, the school doesn't think he needs social skills because when they ask him do you have friends? he says yes and names them all. The school would ask, do you play with them at recess? he'll

say yes and explain the game. But they don't ask if they stayed there and played with him. instead, he's there watching the pretend clubhouse by himself. and worse yet, A mom invited my son to her sons birthday party. the next day, he told the boy, I can make it to your party. the boy said - no your not!, I didn't invite you. my son said, but your mom did. the boy said, it's my party - don't come...So, my son asked me why the boy did that? UGH!!! Does see them after school or only during school? Gattone <shamrocks0627verizon (DOT) net> wrote: Liz, How does your son deal with other kids in school? My is in 10th grade at a public HS and

she has 1 or 2 friends that she has had from midle school. tends to just lump everyone in specific catergories. she rarely makes a second judgment on anyone or anything. I just wondered if she was alone in this behavior. [sPAM]( ) Anyone from

OH/MA know about Summit Academy Schools? Hi! I have a 16 year old son who has AS. I've been a member for awhile now and although I rarely have time to post messages, I come here on a daily basis -- I learn so much just from reading everyone's messages and replies!I'm hoping some of you can help me out. Summit Academy just opened a school for kids with Asperger's, NLD and ADHD in the Central Mass area. They've had schools in the OH area for several years now. I'm impressed with their philosophy and am just wondering if anyone here has any knowledge of or experience with them. Any info would help! Thanks for any help you can give me.Liz __________________________________________________