RE: Personal hygiene

[Guest guest]

In a word, YES.. I still have to tell my 19 yos to put on deodorant and actually bathe in the shower, don't just get wet and welcome to our group, Rannveig.

( ) Personal hygiene

One thing that occurred to me after reading some posts on the list. Is problems with focus on personal hygiene a common issue for kids with AS? I have been struggling a lot with my son to get him to wash himself and use a deodorant in the morning. I still have to remind him, otherwise he very likely "forgets" it. I also have to "push" him into the shower. I would think he is old enough to take responsibility for that himself, but nothing seems to happen without me "nagging" him.I see the contrast with my daughter (11) who doesn't have any of his problems. Everything is *so* much easier with her :-)Best regards,Rannveig/.

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Our grandson, is 15 & we still have a hard time to get him to take his shower,to use deodorant, brush his teeth...all that. He hates doing it & argues with us till we threaten to take away his game systeem & games. He was always like that too.You'd think by now that it would be routine & he'd just do it. Not so. Take care,Betty rostevik <rostevik@...> wrote: One thing that occurred to me after reading some posts on the list. Is problems with focus on personal hygiene a common issue for kids with AS? I have been struggling a lot with my son to get him to wash himself and use a deodorant in the morning. I still have to remind him, otherwise he very likely "forgets" it. I also have to "push" him into the shower. I would think he is old enough to take responsibility for that himself, but nothing seems to happen without me "nagging" him.I see the contrast with my daughter (11) who doesn't have any of his problems. Everything is *so* much easier with her :-)Best regards,Rannveig/. __________________________________________________

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My 11 yo sort of grumbles about taking a shower, then stays in for 90 minutes.

LOL My 13

year old will get out and I will ask him if he washed his hair.

Yes.

With Shampoo?

Oh, is that what you meant?

Go back in and WASH your hair this time.....

They both have hair short enough where brushing or combing it really doesn't

take much

effort. They don't care about hair style, so I go with " easy. "

Jackie

[Guest guest]

Sounds so familiar :-) First refusing to take the shower and then

staying " forever " ... And also pretending(?) not to understand what is

meant.

Any thoughts about *why* this seems to be so difficult? And why it

never becomes a routine?

One thing may not have anything to do with AS, but is a little

related... My son is *extremely* shy. He won't go outside his

room/bathroom without at least a t-shirt and a pair of trousers. I

struggle to get him to wear a shorts in the summer - we do

occasionally have nice weather here in Norway too :-)

Rannveig/.

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Just wanted to add my "two cents"...my son is 20 yrs old and it continues to be a struggle to get him to pay attention to personal hygiene issues. He will take a shower and wash his hair, but has to be reminded to use deodorant, to brush his teeth and to shave. The shaving is a constant argument...I'm pretty sure it has to do with sensory issues...he uses an electric shaver, but probably doesn't like the way it feels...and I doubt that he does a very good job of brushing his teeth. Not sure what the solution is for any of us ;-(See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.

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Sorry, I have to laugh at the sniff test remark,my kids get mad at me when I sniff and tell me that I'm the weird one for going around smelling people. Now I've got proof that there are other moms out there sniffing their kids.lol I don't really need to sniff much ,I can get a whiff when they walk by.I'm SOoo glad I'm not the only one thinking I'm crazy because I "make such a big deal out of showering". I have threatened my boys by telling them that dad would have to watch them shower in their swim suit if they don't start doing better. I agree Bernetta, I get so frustrated with this issue. The kids say , you nag us to death about taking a shower... my reply is ALWAYS if you want me to shut up about it then take the initiative and take a decent shower without mom or dad telling you to....it doesn't work Toni

( ) Personal hygiene

One thing that occurred to me after reading some posts on the list. Is problems with focus on personal hygiene a common issue for kids with AS? I have been struggling a lot with my son to get him to wash himself and use a deodorant in the morning. I still have to remind him, otherwise he very likely "forgets" it. I also have to "push" him into the shower. I would think he is old enough to take responsibility for that himself, but nothing seems to happen without me "nagging" him.I see the contrast with my daughter (11) who doesn't have any of his problems. Everything is *so* much easier with her :-)Best regards,Rannveig/.

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My son didn't wear shorts for 2 summers. And it can be really hot here.

I think it was a senso thing. He didn't like his legs to be bare/

couldn't handle the shorts ending halfway his legs.

This past summer I got him into shorts, but he still insisted on

wearing socks pulled up, and no sandals for sure.

Veerle.

>

> Sounds so familiar :-) First refusing to take the shower and then

> staying " forever " ... And also pretending(?) not to understand what is

> meant.

>

> Any thoughts about *why* this seems to be so difficult? And why it

> never becomes a routine?

>

> One thing may not have anything to do with AS, but is a little

> related... My son is *extremely* shy. He won't go outside his

> room/bathroom without at least a t-shirt and a pair of trousers. I

> struggle to get him to wear a shorts in the summer - we do

> occasionally have nice weather here in Norway too :-)

>

> Rannveig/.

>

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Yes also doesn't like to use deodorant & hates to brush his teeth. He knows he has stinky arm puts at times & doesn't seem to care untill we demand him to shower & use some. Maybe when they get a girlfriend?? But would a girl be interested in a guy like that? Sigh.... Betty pltoc@... wrote: Just wanted to add my "two

cents"...my son is 20 yrs old and it continues to be a struggle to get him to pay attention to personal hygiene issues. He will take a shower and wash his hair, but has to be reminded to use deodorant, to brush his teeth and to shave. The shaving is a constant argument...I'm pretty sure it has to do with sensory issues...he uses an electric shaver, but probably doesn't like the way it feels...and I doubt that he does a very good job of brushing his teeth. Not sure what the solution is for any of us ;-( See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. __________________________________________________

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I just pee'd myself about the "turkey buzzards".......God you're hillarious!!!! Toni <kbtoni@...> wrote: sounds like my Noah, he will wear shorts but he wears black or blue 'soft' socks with them... Neither of my kids go barefoot AT all.. My kids will still not wear jeans at 19. They're 'too hard'. So they wear khakis..Good thing we live in Ga, because it doesn't matter if it's 20 below they will not wear a coat. Packed all kinds of warm things for them to wear when they

went on a trip to Washington DC with the school and they wore short sleeves while everyone else was wearing coats. I guess the teachers thought I was a fool, but why pack a coat if they won't wear it? I had a lot of fleece pullovers to wear over their shirts and they wouldn't even wear them to stay warm. Teacher said whenever they stopped somewhere to look at something n and Noah would squat and cover themselves with the shirt pulled over their knees. I bet that was an interesting sight. Which reminds me of a question I have... Do your kids sit in chairs or on the floor? My kids almost never sit in a chair, except to eat and play computer.. Even when the dept of dev disabilities came to interview n he sat on the floor by the table and we answered and he didn't qualify... My mama calls them turkey buzzards because of the way they squat. The boys tell me that it is mundane to shower, whatever they mean by that. and as for BO, I just thought it was my boys... I

don't see how they can get so smelly just sitting at a computer? Maybe they produce more because they have more anxiety? I don't know... I just thought mine smelled because they are much older..interesting... guess I need to get some Axe and see if they'll use that. Toni Re: ( ) Personal hygiene My son didn't wear shorts

for 2 summers. And it can be really hot here. I think it was a senso thing. He didn't like his legs to be bare/ couldn't handle the shorts ending halfway his legs.This past summer I got him into shorts, but he still insisted on wearing socks pulled up, and no sandals for sure.Veerle.>> Sounds so familiar :-) First refusing to take the shower and then > staying "forever"... And also pretending(?) not to understand what is > meant.> > Any thoughts about *why* this seems to be so difficult? And why it > never becomes a routine?> > One thing may not have anything to do with AS, but is a little > related... My son is *extremely* shy. He won't go outside his > room/bathroom without at least a t-shirt and a pair of

trousers. I > struggle to get him to wear a shorts in the summer - we do > occasionally have nice weather here in Norway too :-)> > Rannveig/.> __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I have a 13 year old girl, who refuses to shower. Last night, I caught her standing outside of the shower while the water was running. I scared her half to death, but I kept doing the sniff test and she was failing terribly with this musty smell.

So embarrased or not, I had to stand outside the shower and bathe her. She was so mad at me. Even after all that last night, she still did not wash up, put deodarant on, or brush her teeth this morning.

I just feel bad and mad that I have to do this every day,

Bernetta

( ) Personal hygiene

One thing that occurred to me after reading some posts on the list. Is problems with focus on personal hygiene a common issue for kids with AS? I have been struggling a lot with my son to get him to wash himself and use a deodorant in the morning. I still have to remind him, otherwise he very likely "forgets" it. I also have to "push" him into the shower. I would think he is old enough to take responsibility for that himself, but nothing seems to happen without me "nagging" him.I see the contrast with my daughter (11) who doesn't have any of his problems. Everything is *so* much easier with her :-)Best regards,Rannveig/.

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wears sandals but she wears white socks with them!

Deb

Re: ( ) Personal hygiene

My son didn't wear shorts for 2 summers. And it can be really hot here.

I think it was a senso thing. He didn't like his legs to be bare/

couldn't handle the shorts ending halfway his legs.

This past summer I got him into shorts, but he still insisted on

wearing socks pulled up, and no sandals for sure.

Veerle.

>

> Sounds so familiar :-) First refusing to take the shower and then

> staying "forever"... And also pretending(?) not to understand what is

> meant.

>

> Any thoughts about *why* this seems to be so difficult? And why it

> never becomes a routine?

>

> One thing may not have anything to do with AS, but is a little

> related... My son is *extremely* shy. He won't go outside his

> room/bathroom without at least a t-shirt and a pair of trousers. I

> struggle to get him to wear a shorts in the summer - we do

> occasionally have nice weather here in Norway too :-)

>

> Rannveig/.

>

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sounds like my Noah, he will wear shorts but he wears black or blue 'soft' socks with them... Neither of my kids go barefoot AT all.. My kids will still not wear jeans at 19. They're 'too hard'. So they wear khakis..Good thing we live in Ga, because it doesn't matter if it's 20 below they will not wear a coat. Packed all kinds of warm things for them to wear when they went on a trip to Washington DC with the school and they wore short sleeves while everyone else was wearing coats. I guess the teachers thought I was a fool, but why pack a coat if they won't wear it? I had a lot of fleece pullovers to wear over their shirts and they wouldn't even wear them to stay warm. Teacher said whenever they stopped somewhere to look at something n and Noah would squat and cover themselves with the shirt pulled over their knees. I bet that was an interesting sight. Which reminds me of a question I have... Do your kids sit in chairs or on the floor? My kids almost never sit in a chair, except to eat and play computer.. Even when the dept of dev disabilities came to interview n he sat on the floor by the table and we answered and he didn't qualify... My mama calls them turkey buzzards because of the way they squat. The boys tell me that it is mundane to shower, whatever they mean by that. and as for BO, I just thought it was my boys... I don't see how they can get so smelly just sitting at a computer? Maybe they produce more because they have more anxiety? I don't know... I just thought mine smelled because they are much older..interesting... guess I need to get some Axe and see if they'll use that. Toni

Re: ( ) Personal hygiene

My son didn't wear shorts for 2 summers. And it can be really hot here. I think it was a senso thing. He didn't like his legs to be bare/ couldn't handle the shorts ending halfway his legs.This past summer I got him into shorts, but he still insisted on wearing socks pulled up, and no sandals for sure.Veerle.>> Sounds so familiar :-) First refusing to take the shower and then > staying "forever"... And also pretending(?) not to understand what is > meant.> > Any thoughts about *why* this seems to be so difficult? And why it > never becomes a routine?> > One thing may not have anything to do with AS, but is a little > related... My son is *extremely* shy. He won't go outside his > room/bathroom without at least a t-shirt and a pair of trousers. I > struggle to get him to wear a shorts in the summer - we do > occasionally have nice weather here in Norway too :-)> > Rannveig/.>

[Guest guest]

In our case I think it may have something to do with him having a

lot of hair on his legs - like a hobbit ;-) He won't talk about it,

but I assume he feels embarrassed. Also, he was one of the first in

his class to get into puberty, which wasn't easy at all. I think he

felt that his body " betrayed " him, becoming an adult when he still

felt like a child inside.

As AS just recently has been brought up, I haven't thought about any

sensory issues. But I do see him having that, both with food,

physical closeness, clothes etc.

Like someone else mentioned, if doing something involves changing

clothes/wearing something else than everyday clothes, he'd rather

not go. I have thought about this as him being extremely lazy, not

being willing to spend the few minutes to change, but maybe has to

do with sensory issues instead?

Rannveig/.

>

> My son didn't wear shorts for 2 summers. And it can be really hot

here.

> I think it was a senso thing. He didn't like his legs to be bare/

> couldn't handle the shorts ending halfway his legs.

> This past summer I got him into shorts, but he still insisted on

> wearing socks pulled up, and no sandals for sure.

> Veerle.

[Guest guest]

My 15 yob informed me that taking showers

was a waste of soap and water.  He also informed me that washing the outside of

the dishes was a waste of soap and water.  I told him that soap and water were

cheap and I didn’t care if he wasted them.

Jolinna

From:

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Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 4:42 PM

To:

Subject: Re: ( )

Personal hygiene

Yes also doesn't like

to use deodorant & hates to brush his teeth. He knows he has stinky arm

puts at times & doesn't seem to care untill we demand him to shower &

use some. Maybe when they get a girlfriend?? But would a girl be interested in

a guy like that?

Sigh....

Betty

pltoc@...

wrote:

Just wanted to add my " two

cents " ...my son is 20 yrs old and it continues to be a struggle to get him

to pay attention to personal hygiene issues. He will take a shower and

wash his hair, but has to be reminded to use deodorant, to brush his teeth and

to shave. The shaving is a constant argument...I'm pretty sure it

has to do with sensory issues...he uses an electric shaver, but probably

doesn't like the way it feels...and I doubt that he does a very good job of

brushing his teeth. Not sure what the solution is for any of us ;-(

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We have the opposite problem with my son—he

wears a jacket even when it is 90+.  He claims that it is because it might rain

and then he will be the only one prepared and stay dry. He doesn’t care

if he wears pants or shorts.  It was interesting though when we went to my

nephew’s wedding and he had to wear a tie.  I did get him in dress shoes

and socks by feeling every pair of socks they had and finally finding one that

was soft enough to suit him.  Most people think it is insane that we spent

nearly an hour picking out a pair of socks.  It is nice to find people that

understand why I do things that are so insane.  I am so glad to know that it

isn’t just my son that has hygiene problems. 

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of

and/or Robin

Lemke

Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 4:43 PM

To:

Subject: Re: ( )

Personal hygiene

I just pee'd myself about the " turkey buzzards " .......God

you're hillarious!!!!

Toni <kbtoniwindstream (DOT) net>

wrote:

sounds like

my Noah, he will wear shorts but he

wears black or blue 'soft' socks with them... Neither of my kids go barefoot AT

all.. My kids will still not wear jeans at 19. They're 'too hard'. So they wear

khakis..Good thing we live in Ga, because it doesn't matter if it's 20 below

they will not wear a coat. Packed all kinds of warm things for them to wear

when they went on a trip to Washington

DC with the school and they wore

short sleeves while everyone else was wearing coats. I guess the teachers thought

I was a fool, but why pack a coat if they won't wear it? I had a lot of fleece

pullovers to wear over their shirts and they wouldn't even wear them to stay

warm. Teacher said whenever they stopped somewhere to look at something n and Noah

would squat and cover themselves with the shirt pulled over their knees. I bet

that was an interesting sight. Which reminds me of a question I have... Do your

kids sit in chairs or on the floor? My kids almost never sit in a chair, except

to eat and play computer.. Even when the dept of dev disabilities came to

interview n he sat on the floor

by the table and we answered and he didn't qualify... My mama calls them turkey

buzzards because of the way they squat. The boys tell me that it is mundane to

shower, whatever they mean by that. and as for BO,

I just thought it was my boys... I don't see how they can get so smelly just

sitting at a computer? Maybe they produce more because they have more anxiety?

I don't know... I just thought mine smelled because they are much

older..interesting... guess I need to get some Axe and see if they'll use

that. Toni

Re:

( ) Personal hygiene

My son didn't wear shorts

for 2 summers. And it can be really hot here.

I think it was a senso thing. He didn't like his legs to be bare/

couldn't handle the shorts ending halfway his legs.

This past summer I got him into shorts, but he still insisted on

wearing socks pulled up, and no sandals for sure.

Veerle.

>

> Sounds so familiar :-) First refusing to take the shower and then

> staying " forever " ... And also pretending(?) not to

understand what is

> meant.

>

> Any thoughts about *why* this seems to be so difficult? And why it

> never becomes a routine?

>

> One thing may not have anything to do with AS, but is a little

> related... My son is *extremely* shy. He won't go outside his

> room/bathroom without at least a t-shirt and a pair of trousers. I

> struggle to get him to wear a shorts in the summer - we do

> occasionally have nice weather here in Norway too :-)

>

> Rannveig/.

>

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[Guest guest]

I know what you mean. I don't have the energy to do that every day either. used to walk around in a bathrobe with a towel wrapped around her hair and tell me that she took a shower, but she didn't.

Deb

Re: ( ) Personal hygiene

I have a 13 year old girl, who refuses to shower. Last night, I caught her standing outside of the shower while the water was running. I scared her half to death, but I kept doing the sniff test and she was failing terribly with this musty smell.

So embarrased or not, I had to stand outside the shower and bathe her. She was so mad at me. Even after all that last night, she still did not wash up, put deodarant on, or brush her teeth this morning.

I just feel bad and mad that I have to do this every day,

Bernetta

( ) Personal hygiene

One thing that occurred to me after reading some posts on the list. Is

problems with focus on personal hygiene a common issue for kids with

AS? I have been struggling a lot with my son to get him to wash

himself and use a deodorant in the morning. I still have to remind

him, otherwise he very likely "forgets" it. I also have to "push" him

into the shower. I would think he is old enough to take responsibility

for that himself, but nothing seems to happen without me "nagging" him.

I see the contrast with my daughter (11) who doesn't have any of his

problems. Everything is *so* much easier with her :-)

Best regards,

Rannveig/.

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[Guest guest]

My son is concerned about the environment, LOL, when he has to

bathe/shower/use soap or shampoo...

Veerle

>

> Just wanted to add my " two cents " ...my son is 20 yrs old and it

continues to

> be a struggle to get him to pay attention to personal hygiene

issues. He

> will take a shower and wash his hair, but has to be reminded to use

> deodorant, to brush his teeth and to shave. The shaving is a

constant

> argument...I'm pretty sure it has to do with sensory issues...he

uses an

> electric shaver, but probably doesn't like the way it feels...and I

doubt

> that he does a very good job of brushing his teeth. Not sure what

the

> solution is for any of us ;-(

>

>

>

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Jolinna, Most people think it is insane that we spent nearly an hour picking out a pair of socks. Today, while I was in walmart, I noticed a man in the sock section. I left and came back much later to find him still there. When I finished shopping and ready to leave the store, I passed the sock row and saw he was still there. Your not the only one searching for comfortable socks. Jolinna <jolinna@...> wrote: We have the opposite problem with my son—he wears a jacket even when it is 90+. He claims that it is because it might rain and then he will be the only one prepared and stay dry. He doesn’t care if he wears pants or shorts. It was interesting though when we went to my nephew’s wedding and he had to wear a tie. I did get him in dress shoes and socks by feeling every pair of socks they had and finally finding one that was soft enough to suit him. Most people think it is insane that we spent nearly an hour picking out a pair of socks. It is nice to find people that understand why I do things that are so insane. I am so glad to know that it isn’t just my son that has hygiene problems.

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of and/or Robin LemkeSent: Monday, October 22, 2007 4:43 PM Subject: Re: ( ) Personal hygiene I just pee'd myself about the "turkey buzzards".......God you're hillarious!!!! Toni <kbtoniwindstream (DOT) net> wrote: sounds like my Noah, he will wear shorts but he wears black or blue 'soft' socks with them... Neither of my kids go barefoot AT all.. My kids will still not wear jeans at 19. They're 'too hard'. So they wear khakis..Good thing we live in Ga, because it doesn't matter if it's 20 below they will not wear a coat. Packed all kinds of warm things for them to wear when they went on a trip to Washington DC with the school and they wore short sleeves while everyone else was wearing coats. I guess the teachers thought I was a fool, but why pack a coat if they won't wear it? I had a lot of fleece pullovers to wear over their shirts and they wouldn't even wear them to stay warm. Teacher said whenever they stopped somewhere to look at something n and

Noah would squat and cover themselves with the shirt pulled over their knees. I bet that was an interesting sight. Which reminds me of a question I have... Do your kids sit in chairs or on the floor? My kids almost never sit in a chair, except to eat and play computer.. Even when the dept of dev disabilities came to interview n he sat on the floor by the table and we answered and he didn't qualify... My mama calls them turkey buzzards because of the way they squat. The boys tell me that it is mundane to shower, whatever they mean by that. and as for BO, I just thought it was my boys... I don't see how they can get so smelly just sitting at a computer? Maybe they produce more because they have more anxiety? I don't know... I just thought mine smelled because they are much older..interesting... guess I need to get some Axe and see if they'll use that. Toni Re: ( ) Personal hygiene My son didn't wear shorts for 2 summers. And it can be really hot here. I think it was a senso thing. He didn't like his legs to be bare/

couldn't handle the shorts ending halfway his legs.This past summer I got him into shorts, but he still insisted on wearing socks pulled up, and no sandals for sure.Veerle.>> Sounds so familiar :-) First refusing to take the shower and then > staying "forever"... And also pretending(?) not to understand what is > meant.> > Any thoughts about *why* this seems to be so difficult? And why it > never becomes a routine?> > One thing may not have anything to do with AS, but is a little > related... My son is *extremely* shy. He won't go outside his > room/bathroom without at least a t-shirt and a pair of trousers. I > struggle to get him to wear a shorts in the summer - we do > occasionally have nice weather

here in Norway too :-)> > Rannveig/.> __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I don't know if I have any type of AS myself, but I could never wear polyester - it felt like sandpaper on my skin. I prefer nice, soft, cotton!

Deb

In a message dated 10/23/2007 7:13:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jolinna@... writes:

We have the opposite problem with my son—he wears a jacket even when it is 90+. He claims that it is because it might rain and then he will be the only one prepared and stay dry. He doesn’t care if he wears pants or shorts. It was interesting though when we went to my nephew’s wedding and he had to wear a tie. I did get him in dress shoes and socks by feeling every pair of socks they had and finally finding one that was soft enough to suit him. Most people think it is insane that we spent nearly an hour picking out a pair of socks. It is nice to find people that understand why I do things that are so insane. I am so glad to know that it isn’t just my son that has hygiene problems.

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of and/or Robin LemkeSent: Monday, October 22, 2007 4:43 PM Subject: Re: ( ) Personal hygiene

I just pee'd myself about the "turkey buzzards".......God you're hillarious!!!!

Toni <kbtoniwindstream (DOT) net> wrote:

sounds like my Noah, he will wear shorts but he wears black or blue 'soft' socks with them... Neither of my kids go barefoot AT all.. My kids will still not wear jeans at 19. They're 'too hard'. So they wear khakis..Good thing we live in Ga, because it doesn't matter if it's 20 below they will not wear a coat. Packed all kinds of warm things for them to wear when they went on a trip to Washington DC with the school and they wore short sleeves while everyone else was wearing coats. I guess the teachers thought I was a fool, but why pack a coat if they won't wear it? I had a lot of fleece pullovers to wear over their shirts and they wouldn't even wear them to stay warm. Teacher said whenever they stopped somewhere to look at something n and Noah would squat and cover themselves with the shirt pulled over their knees. I bet that was an interesting sight. Which reminds me of a question I have... Do your kids sit in chairs or on the floor? My kids almost never sit in a chair, except to eat and play computer.. Even when the dept of dev disabilities came to interview n he sat on the floor by the table and we answered and he didn't qualify... My mama calls them turkey buzzards because of the way they squat. The boys tell me that it is mundane to shower, whatever they mean by that. and as for BO, I just thought it was my boys... I don't see how they can get so smelly just sitting at a computer? Maybe they produce more because they have more anxiety? I don't know... I just thought mine smelled because they are much older..interesting... guess I need to get some Axe and see if they'll use that. Toni

Re: ( ) Personal hygiene

My son didn't wear shorts for 2 summers. And it can be really hot here. I think it was a senso thing. He didn't like his legs to be bare/ couldn't handle the shorts ending halfway his legs.This past summer I got him into shorts, but he still insisted on wearing socks pulled up, and no sandals for sure.Veerle.>> Sounds so familiar :-) First refusing to take the shower and then > staying "forever"... And also pretending(?) not to understand what is > meant.> > Any thoughts about *why* this seems to be so difficult? And why it > never becomes a routine?> > One thing may not have anything to do with AS, but is a little > related... My son is *extremely* shy. He won't go outside his > room/bathroom without at least a t-shirt and a pair of trousers. I > struggle to get him to wear a shorts in the summer - we do > occasionally have nice weather here in Norway too :-)> > Rannveig/.>

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my 17 yo has only been taking her shower, washing her hair , and brushing her teeth (with many reminders) for about 2 years. The thing about "with shampoo" is classic. She is phobic of any chemicals. Soap included. She will clean the house with gloves on and using only baking soda. Her sense of smell is so intense, the smell of most fragrances sends her running and covering her nose. The hair thing- if she takes care of it, I will allow her to wear it a little longer, in a style that looks good with minimal care. If she won't take care of it, I insist on a short cut that will look good in a windstorm. As for the teeth brushing, The thought of toothpaste or a tooth brush touching her mouth for more than a few seconds freaks her out. We opt for brushing once or twice a day, and Orbit or other tooth-cleaning gum after meals. It's much more peaceful. One must pick one's battles. jerri.w6pbj <jackie@...> wrote: My 11 yo sort of grumbles about taking a shower, then stays in for 90 minutes. LOL My 13 year old will get out and I will ask him if he washed his hair. Yes. With Shampoo? Oh, is that what you meant?Go back in and WASH your hair this time.....They both have hair short enough where brushing or combing it really doesn't take much effort. They don't care about hair style, so I go with "easy."Jackie __________________________________________________

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I have shower gel and scrubbies and wash cloths, still doesn't get used. I will make my almost daily trip to Wal-mart tomorrow and check out the axe section. Now all our aspies will smell like AXE with a hint of BO.. sorry... have to laugh... Thanks, Ruthie.. Toni

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My son didn't wear shorts for 2 summers. And it can be really hot here. I think it was a senso thing. He didn't like his legs to be bare/ couldn't handle the shorts ending halfway his legs.This past summer I got him into shorts, but he still insisted on wearing socks pulled up, and no sandals for sure.Veerle.>> Sounds so familiar :-) First refusing to take the shower and then > staying "forever"... And also pretending(?) not to understand what is > meant.> > Any thoughts about *why* this seems to be so difficult? And why it > never becomes a routine?> > One thing may not have anything to do with AS, but is a little > related... My son is *extremely* shy. He won't go outside his > room/bathroom without at least a t-shirt and a pair of trousers. I > struggle to get him to wear a shorts in the summer - we do > occasionally have nice weather here in Norway too :-)> > Rannveig/.>

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were you in the walmart in sioux falls? That was probably my husband!! He is SOOOO picky about socks. Rose <beachbodytan2002@...> wrote: Jolinna, Most people think it is insane that we spent nearly an hour picking out a pair of socks. Today, while I was in walmart, I noticed a man in the sock section. I left and came back much later to find him still there. When I finished shopping and ready to leave the store, I passed the sock row and

saw he was still there. Your not the only one searching for comfortable socks. Jolinna <jolinnacableone (DOT) net> wrote: We have the opposite problem with my son—he wears a jacket even when it is 90+. He claims that it is because it might rain and then he will be the only one prepared and stay dry. He doesn’t care if he wears pants or shorts. It was interesting though when we went to my nephew’s wedding and he had to wear a tie. I did get him in dress shoes and socks by feeling every pair of socks they had and finally finding one that was soft enough to suit him. Most

people think it is insane that we spent nearly an hour picking out a pair of socks. It is nice to find people that understand why I do things that are so insane. I am so glad to know that it isn’t just my son that has hygiene problems. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of and/or Robin LemkeSent: Monday, October 22, 2007 4:43 PM Subject: Re: ( ) Personal hygiene I just pee'd myself about the "turkey buzzards".......God you're hillarious!!!! Toni <kbtoniwindstream (DOT) net> wrote: sounds like my Noah, he will wear shorts but he wears black or blue 'soft' socks with them... Neither of my kids go barefoot AT all.. My kids will still not wear jeans at 19. They're 'too hard'. So they wear khakis..Good thing we live in Ga, because it doesn't matter if it's 20 below they will not wear a coat. Packed all kinds of warm things for them to wear when they went on a trip to Washington DC with the school and they wore short sleeves while everyone else was wearing coats. I guess the teachers thought I was a fool,

but why pack a coat if they won't wear it? I had a lot of fleece pullovers to wear over their shirts and they wouldn't even wear them to stay warm. Teacher said whenever they stopped somewhere to look at something n and Noah would squat and cover themselves with the shirt pulled over their knees. I bet that was an interesting sight. Which reminds me of a question I have... Do your kids sit in chairs or on the floor? My kids almost never sit in a chair, except to eat and play computer.. Even when the dept of dev disabilities came to interview n he sat on the floor by the table and we answered and he didn't qualify... My mama calls them turkey buzzards because of the way they squat. The boys tell me that it is mundane to shower, whatever they mean by that. and as for BO, I just thought it was my boys... I don't see how they can get so smelly just sitting at a computer? Maybe they produce more because they have more

anxiety? I don't know... I just thought mine smelled because they are much older..interesting... guess I need to get some Axe and see if they'll use that. Toni Re: ( ) Personal hygiene My son didn't wear shorts for 2 summers. And it can be really hot here. I think it was a senso thing. He didn't like his legs to be bare/ couldn't handle the shorts ending halfway his legs.This past summer I got him into shorts, but he still insisted on wearing socks pulled up, and no sandals for sure.Veerle.>> Sounds so familiar :-) First refusing to take the shower and then > staying "forever"... And also pretending(?) not to understand what is > meant.> > Any thoughts about *why* this seems to be so difficult? And why it > never becomes a routine?> > One thing may not have anything to do with AS, but is a little > related... My son is

*extremely* shy. He won't go outside his > room/bathroom without at least a t-shirt and a pair of trousers. I > struggle to get him to wear a shorts in the summer - we do > occasionally have nice weather here in Norway too :-)> > Rannveig/.> __________________________________________________

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LOL!!!

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My son didn't wear shorts for 2 summers. And it can be really hot here. I think it was a senso thing. He didn't like his legs to be bare/ couldn't handle the shorts ending halfway his legs.This past summer I got him into shorts, but he still insisted on wearing socks pulled up, and no sandals for sure.Veerle.>> Sounds so familiar :-) First refusing to take the shower and then > staying "forever"... And also pretending(?) not to understand what is > meant.> > Any thoughts about *why* this seems to be so difficult? And why it > never becomes a routine?> > One thing may not have anything to do with AS, but is a little > related... My son is *extremely* shy. He won't go outside his > room/bathroom without at least a t-shirt and a pair of trousers. I > struggle to get him to wear a shorts in the summer - we do > occasionally have nice weather here in Norway too :-)> > Rannveig/.>

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No, Walmart in NY.Dee DiMemmo <craftychick70@...> wrote: were you in the walmart in sioux falls? That was probably my husband!! He is SOOOO picky about socks. Rose <beachbodytan2002 > wrote: Jolinna, Most people think it is insane that we spent nearly an hour picking out a pair of socks. Today, while I was in

walmart, I noticed a man in the sock section. I left and came back much later to find him still there. When I finished shopping and ready to leave the store, I passed the sock row and saw he was still there. Your not the only one searching for comfortable socks. Jolinna <jolinnacableone (DOT) net> wrote: We have the opposite problem with my son—he wears a jacket even when it is 90+. He claims that it is because it might rain and then he will be the only one prepared and stay dry. He doesn’t care if he wears pants or shorts. It was interesting though when we went to my

nephew’s wedding and he had to wear a tie. I did get him in dress shoes and socks by feeling every pair of socks they had and finally finding one that was soft enough to suit him. Most people think it is insane that we spent nearly an hour picking out a pair of socks. It is nice to find people that understand why I do things that are so insane. I am so glad to know that it isn’t just my son that has hygiene problems. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of and/or Robin LemkeSent: Monday, October 22, 2007 4:43 PM Subject: Re: ( ) Personal hygiene I just pee'd myself about the "turkey buzzards".......God you're

hillarious!!!! Toni <kbtoniwindstream (DOT) net> wrote: sounds like my Noah, he will wear shorts but he wears black or blue 'soft' socks with them... Neither of my kids go barefoot AT all.. My kids will still not wear jeans at 19. They're 'too hard'. So they wear khakis..Good thing we live in Ga, because it doesn't matter if it's 20 below they will not wear a coat. Packed all kinds of warm things for

them to wear when they went on a trip to Washington DC with the school and they wore short sleeves while everyone else was wearing coats. I guess the teachers thought I was a fool, but why pack a coat if they won't wear it? I had a lot of fleece pullovers to wear over their shirts and they wouldn't even wear them to stay warm. Teacher said whenever they stopped somewhere to look at something n and Noah would squat and cover themselves with the shirt pulled over their knees. I bet that was an interesting sight. Which reminds me of a question I have... Do your kids sit in chairs or on the floor? My kids almost never sit in a chair, except to eat and play computer.. Even when the dept of dev disabilities came to interview n he sat on the floor by the table and we answered and he didn't qualify... My mama calls them turkey buzzards because of the way they squat. The boys tell me that it is mundane to

shower, whatever they mean by that. and as for BO, I just thought it was my boys... I don't see how they can get so smelly just sitting at a computer? Maybe they produce more because they have more anxiety? I don't know... I just thought mine smelled because they are much older..interesting... guess I need to get some Axe and see if they'll use that. Toni Re: ( )

Personal hygiene My son didn't wear shorts for 2 summers. And it can be really hot here. I think it was a senso thing. He didn't like his legs to be bare/ couldn't handle the shorts ending halfway his legs.This past summer I got him into shorts, but he still insisted on wearing socks pulled up, and no sandals for sure.Veerle.>> Sounds so familiar :-) First refusing to take the shower and then > staying "forever"... And also pretending(?) not to understand what is > meant.> > Any

thoughts about *why* this seems to be so difficult? And why it > never becomes a routine?> > One thing may not have anything to do with AS, but is a little > related... My son is *extremely* shy. He won't go outside his > room/bathroom without at least a t-shirt and a pair of trousers. I > struggle to get him to wear a shorts in the summer - we do > occasionally have nice weather here in Norway too :-)> > Rannveig/.> __________________________________________________

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it must be a relative....or his dopplegangerRose <beachbodytan2002@...> wrote: No, Walmart in NY.Dee DiMemmo <craftychick70 > wrote: were you in the walmart in sioux falls? That was probably my husband!! He is SOOOO picky about socks. Rose <beachbodytan2002 > wrote: Jolinna, Most people think it is insane that we spent nearly an hour picking out a pair of socks. Today, while I was in walmart, I noticed a man in the sock section. I left and came back much later to find him still there. When I finished shopping and ready to leave the store, I passed the sock row and saw he was still there. Your not the only one searching for comfortable socks. Jolinna <jolinnacableone (DOT) net> wrote: We have the opposite problem with my son—he wears a jacket even when

it is 90+. He claims that it is because it might rain and then he will be the only one prepared and stay dry. He doesn’t care if he wears pants or shorts. It was interesting though when we went to my nephew’s wedding and he had to wear a tie. I did get him in dress shoes and socks by feeling every pair of socks they had and finally finding one that was soft enough to suit him. Most people think it is insane that we spent nearly an hour picking out a pair of socks. It is nice to find people that understand why I do things that are so insane. I am so glad to know that it isn’t just my son that has hygiene problems. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of and/or Robin LemkeSent: Monday, October 22, 2007 4:43 PM Subject: Re: ( ) Personal hygiene I just pee'd myself about the "turkey buzzards".......God you're hillarious!!!! Toni <kbtoniwindstream (DOT) net> wrote: sounds like my Noah, he will wear shorts but he wears black or blue 'soft' socks with them... Neither of my kids go barefoot AT all.. My kids will

still not wear jeans at 19. They're 'too hard'. So they wear khakis..Good thing we live in Ga, because it doesn't matter if it's 20 below they will not wear a coat. Packed all kinds of warm things for them to wear when they went on a trip to Washington DC with the school and they wore short sleeves while everyone else was wearing coats. I guess the teachers thought I was a fool, but why pack a coat if they won't wear it? I had a lot of fleece pullovers to wear over their shirts and they wouldn't even wear them to stay warm. Teacher said whenever they stopped somewhere to look at something n and Noah would squat and cover themselves with the shirt pulled over their knees. I bet that was an interesting sight. Which reminds me of a question I have... Do your kids sit in chairs or on the floor? My kids almost never sit in a chair, except to eat and play computer.. Even when the dept of dev disabilities came to

interview n he sat on the floor by the table and we answered and he didn't qualify... My mama calls them turkey buzzards because of the way they squat. The boys tell me that it is mundane to shower, whatever they mean by that. and as for BO, I just thought it was my boys... I don't see how they can get so smelly just sitting at a computer? Maybe they produce more because they have more anxiety? I don't know... I just thought mine smelled because they are much older..interesting... guess I need to get some Axe and see if they'll use that. Toni Re: ( ) Personal hygiene My son didn't wear shorts for 2 summers. And it can be really hot here. I think it was a senso thing. He didn't like his legs to be bare/ couldn't handle the shorts ending halfway his legs.This past summer I got him into shorts, but he still insisted on wearing socks pulled up, and no sandals for sure.Veerle.>>

Sounds so familiar :-) First refusing to take the shower and then > staying "forever"... And also pretending(?) not to understand what is > meant.> > Any thoughts about *why* this seems to be so difficult? And why it > never becomes a routine?> > One thing may not have anything to do with AS, but is a little > related... My son is *extremely* shy. He won't go outside his > room/bathroom without at least a t-shirt and a pair of trousers. I > struggle to get him to wear a shorts in the summer - we do > occasionally have nice weather here in Norway too :-)> > Rannveig/.> __________________________________________________