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From: mreitanoca@...

Dear List:

" I sit here, day after day, surfing through posts that are not

supposed to

be in this format. Please, this isn't a social chat room, this is a

place to

discuss dwarfism issues. It is NOT a social awareness list,..... "

I disagree! I believe it is all three! As a grandmother of an achon 3

year old, it HAS to by it's very nature, become a social issue also.

People socialize and become very close to others on this list, (what

would I do with out Becky Tokars and her wonderful emails (we NEVER

discuss dwarfism!). Or Betty sen and her knowledge, availability

and unselfishness. How about Fred Short and his " quiet and

sophisticated " humor?) It is the commonality of dwarfism which brought

us together! But it is the personality which makes us friends! I can

always use more friends!

We celebrate the accomplishments, achievements and recoveries, we sorrow

for the surgeries, the setbacks, the disappointments and deaths. We pray

for each other on a personal basis, We plan for conventions and in

person meetings and reunions!

it " ........is not a 411 lists

I don't personally care if people ask for ANYTHING asking does not mean

getting!, I merely use my delete button alot :-)

I agree with what you say about the " researching " people! I have a

feeling they are merely voyeuristic by nature! I would not like my life

or others to be dissected for some real or fancied research project.

UNLESS, of course, they want to then it becomes none of my business!

" Now, if you look down the list of the 18 messages for today, only THREE

are topic

related. " Yes I agree, (kinda) Neither yours or mine are topical either

and Lo here they are!! lolol

Abortion, viewed objectively, is as relevant a subject for Little People

as for anyone else IMHO! Little People face the same issues as does

anyone else, at times magnified due to medical and physical abilities!

Historically there have been people and cultures who do not feel the

dwarf has a right to live much less pro-create! Adolph Hitler comes to

mind as do some Asian cultures!

People ALWAYS get off track of any and all subjects! This is a human

failing, if one would choose to call it a failing! Personally in my 60

years I have found more enlightenment in wandering aimlessly down the

" off the track " subjects than being forced to stick to the subject! We

are complex and individual beings and it is shown on this list as well

as in real life!

You say you come here for advise? As the mother/stepmother of ten grown

children, here is some real practical advice: love your child.... I mean

really love her... Love her more than she has the capabilities to hold!

Take that over flow and deposit it into a " Love Bank " . " Cause I can tell

you that when she hits puberty you are going to have to withdraw that

extra love, with interest, to get through that time!

People subscribe and unsubscribe all the time... I have seen it alot

worse in my short 3 years here than now. Dan would have the stats

because some actually subscribe and unsubscribe the right way, not

through the list!

" (Can you tell I'm a teacher ?) " Yes, I can tell you are a teacher!

Now that I have has MY say it can be " Enough Already " Just kiddin' :-)

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  • 10 months later...

This condition affects all of us. We all have good days, good

experiences and bad as well.

This is a place where we come to talk with other people who are going

through the things that we are. We need to stop placing blame,

taking blame, and everything else that's happened in the last day.

This is silly!

Please, let's not do this to each other. The stresses of everyday

are enough. Let's just end it here and get back to the subject at

hand (and any other cute baby stories you want to throw in).

Something to think about: we have new members every day. How would

you feel coming into the middle of this? Here they are, new to this

journey, and finding us here blasting each other.

Most of us have in-laws that we can bicker with; we don't need to do

it here ;)

So I've said my share.

Sue

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I totally agree with you,AngelsRTru! PPl get on my butt for saying

stuff, yet ppl can go on and on and on and on about how Danny Black

makes LP's look dum, well you know what WE DON'T CARE! Only a person

can make themselves look dum, no one else. You don't like anyones

products DON'T BUY em, and not to be rude but SHUT UP! We heard it a

million times already how ppl think hes wrong, enough,,,geez!

Bonnie

www.Gimpstore.com

> Ok, knock it off. I find it a real oxymoron that soem of this

group would

> be so vitriolic towards Danny for puttign his humour on a shirt yet

would

> tell some similar (albeit tasteless as well) jokes about dwarfs on

this

> listserve without recrimination. Yet when LPs were publicly

humiliated by a

> professional and I asked for help explainign to the man WHY he was

off base I

> was told I was being too touchy about it. Lets get thwi

straignt.....its ok

> for SOEM to make jokes about LPs but not others?

>

> There are times when we have to laugh at ourselves without delving

into some

> deep pseudo psychological reasoning behind it. Barty told

me that in

> a conversation I had with him, but this is getting childish,

vitriolic and

> near the level of playground bullies.

>

>

> Isnt enough enough Dan?

>

> Apryl

>

>

>

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Hey Bonnie,

Do me a favor, don't speak for me. I do care. If someone in here or

anywhere else is doing something to put Little people placed in a

negative light, I hope everyone comes down on the people that are

responsible. I am very proud of the accomplishment I have made as an

indivdual. I made myself and hopefully other little people look like

we can be more than a sideshow act or make a spectacales of

themselves. I am not about to stop until people are educated enough

to relize that there are better ways to make an honest living.

We need to protect the next generation of lps just like the one

before us.

Danny Black is nothing more than a pimp and the people who take his

salsa and dwarf tossing gigs are nothing more than Prostitutes.

It really bothers me when lps have no self respect and allow

themselves to be exploited.

As long as this continues the Little People community of today will

never and I mean never get the respect that we so rightfully deserve.

Sincerely,

Jim e

> > Ok, knock it off. I find it a real oxymoron that soem of this

> group would

> > be so vitriolic towards Danny for puttign his humour on a shirt

yet

> would

> > tell some similar (albeit tasteless as well) jokes about dwarfs

on

> this

> > listserve without recrimination. Yet when LPs were publicly

> humiliated by a

> > professional and I asked for help explainign to the man WHY he

was

> off base I

> > was told I was being too touchy about it. Lets get thwi

> straignt.....its ok

> > for SOEM to make jokes about LPs but not others?

> >

> > There are times when we have to laugh at ourselves without

delving

> into some

> > deep pseudo psychological reasoning behind it. Barty told

> me that in

> > a conversation I had with him, but this is getting childish,

> vitriolic and

> > near the level of playground bullies.

> >

> >

> > Isnt enough enough Dan?

> >

> > Apryl

> >

> >

> >

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In a message dated 5/18/02 3:18:10 PM, oichick621@... writes:

<< Only a person

can make themselves look dum, no one else. >>

At least you practice what you preach.

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In a message dated 02-05-19 00:21:07 EDT, you write:

<< At least you practice what you preach. >>

Ouch! That was kinda harsh, man.

-Tiara H.

AIM: actcoolgal

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