Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Hi there, I was wondering if someone could tell me what there child looks like when a dose of enzymes for one meal is missed? I missed my sons enzymes yesterday at lunch and today he has had loose stools (greenish brown) and his horrible tantrums lasting up to 45 mins. have returned. I am trying to figure out if this could be due to me missing the enzymes yesterday. I wouldn't say the enzymes stopped these tantrums because they had gone away prior to him being on enzymes, but I can't pin point anything else different other than me cutting out calcium and him missing his nap yesterday. He did go to bed early to make up for the nap and he has been off calcium before and not had this tantrum reaction. His mouth seems to be bothering him too. Has anyone else seen this with one dose of enzymes missed? Thanks, Darci Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 > I was wondering if someone could tell me what there child looks like > when a dose of enzymes for one meal is missed? I missed my sons > enzymes yesterday at lunch and today he has had loose stools (greenish > brown) and his horrible tantrums lasting up to 45 mins. have returned. > I am trying to figure out if this could be due to me missing the > enzymes yesterday. For my son several years ago, missing enzymes at a meal would have caused both the green diarrhea and the tantrums. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Darci.... you are the detective here----- the things we as parents have found to help our children when stopped or missed may have adverse effects like the ones you asked about--- trial and error will tell you in the long run... this is what happened to me. You have asked the million dollar question at my home...what is the trigger for the sadness, pinching, crying, different b.m. ECT. My son is 9 and I can tell you that this spring after tiring of the constant supplementing of my child for some 6 years - I stopped them - I thought things remained about the same with his behaviors.. Bad, bad, bad...behavior, almost to the point I thought my lovely child would not be able to live with us. His brother was hiding when ever he heard my son with autism coming through the house. After about 2 months off his supplements my son (with autism) had crawled into bed one morning with me - and had a grand mal seizure.. This of course got my attention... in the 2 months he was off his supplements this was most likely his third or forth seizure: because he lets go of his body functions and wets the bed. I went soul searching.... what to do? ... Take control over again for my very sick son....... is what came to me. I started off slow and the first thing I started was EFA's -his brain miss firing I thought was do to not having the right fats available to use - I had rub them on his legs for many years- because he had dry skin and would refuse lotions because of the chemicals in them? maybe.......... I did not know how important this was to my son until I restarted this. When ever he would start to get upset or moan or cry I would take the EFA out of the fridge and rub a palm full on his legs and he would calm down right away. I told everyone who stayed with my son to do the same thing and we all got the same results....thing were getting better and better. This is the EFA I use http://www.iherb.com/totalefa1.html We still do this ...it still works for my son the same way but it is not need to often now. That day my son had the seizure in my presence- I searched though to see which supplements I would start back on. Over the years I must have tried over 60 different supplements and treatments. I believe that every treatment or supplement will help around 50 % of the kids due to what they are at the time and on what has been treated previous. My son is nonverbal still; but has made gains since restarting his supplements like learning to go b.m. on the toilet, working much better than he ever had a school and is truly happy again... I really see no crying or pinching with him unless it is from him trying to commutate something--- and the person not getting it. These are the supplements my son is using now. everyday morning and night: Kirkmans Everyday multivitamin Kirkmans EnZym- complete/ DPP-IV (Could not tolerate the rice bran in Houston enzyme) Source Naturals Garlic and Parsley Doctors Best 5-HTP Health from the Sun Total EFA (Does not tolerate Vit A well - so no fish oil --- mostly on his skin but a few drops orally day and night.) Supplement that help my son but he can not tolerate every day use. Source Naturals Amino day olive leaf coconut oil (on his skin) Lecithin ( on his skin) sunflower oil with a little Epson salt mixed in (on his skin) My 2 cents Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 What you can try to do is rehearse with him that you are going to surprise him and ask him to leave the house sometime in the day and if he can do that calmly you will reward him with stickers, points, etc. This may help shape calm responses to surprises. My daughter has gotten worse, but my daughter also has OCD so she may not want to stop an art project and leave somewhere if she doesn't have it done right. And she judges herself hard at school and then will be aggressive toward me when I pick her up. Leaving home she is anxious and leaving places that she likes is a major meltdown. We are on a second trial of anti-depressant. My hope is that this anti-depressant will work better with her DNA (we did a drug sensitivity study) works better. If this docesn't work then we will have to move on to a mood stabizer. My daughter has had tantrums with transitions since she was about 2 years old, maybe earlier than that. If life is very predictable she can cope, but I can never make things all predictable. I think my daughter is a severe case due to her OCD and AS. Pam Hopefully, My daughter has had a are verTransitions > > My son will be 10 in July and has trouble with transitions which is expected ... > > Anytime we want to go anywhere he has a tantrum unless we tell him a day or two in advance and then he expects it ... Sometimes we decide to go out to dinner the same day -- or even stop at a store to pick something up on the way home and he has a tantrum about it. Eventually he calms down - sometimes it takes a few minutes and sometimes a half hour but he'll then accept what we're doing. He sometimes apologizes and might enjoy where we go but it never stops the same behavior from happening again and again. Will this ever end or is this a lifelong thing? > > Thanks, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 My son actually told me @ the 4th grade that he preferred not to get the frequent warnings before something was going to happen because then he'd just worry about it until it happened and it would make him upset or he wouldn't be able to concentrate on what he was enjoying. So for years, I was trying to avoid a meltdown by preparing him w/ frequent warnings (we're leaving in 1 hr, we're leaving in 30 minutes, we're leaving in 15 minutes, etc...) and he hated it (and it didn't work!) I almost fell off the couch when I had this light bulb moment! He'd still have meltdowns when it was time to go. Once the two of us were clear, he did great. I was very clear with him "you mean, you'd rather me just tell you when it's time to go instead of giving you any warning?" and he said "yes" and I said "and you won't have a meltdown?" and he said "no" and the next time we had to go somewhere and I said "it's time" he paused, almost getting upset, but then remembered our agreement and got up and we left. Cracks me up when I think about it now! From: Theresa Stoops <houndlover2@...> Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 5:25:05 PMSubject: Re: ( ) Tantrums? we had this problem with our son, now 16. What we did was to not warn him ahead as much. Yes we did tell him for a long time to prevent the melt downs. But we started out by saying, I am going somewhere between 3-4 today starting out little. When he asked where , why ect. I would give one. He would melt down but as time went on he got used to it. Or sometimes I would just say we are leaving now, maybe just take a short ride nowhere but to get him used to it. Now he is pretty ok with it , he still wants to know who, what where but I will not tell him everything because I know deep in my heart other people will not do this in the real world so I know I need to prepare him for unexpected things. He still will tell teachers sometimes that they are suppose to be doing such and such during a time. LOL Theresa StoopsCoordinator OfFlorida F.A.S.D. Interagency Action Group 850-408-3789 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 I love that! > > My son actually told me @ the 4th grade that he preferred not to get the > frequent warnings before something was going to happen because then he'd just > worry about it until it happened and it would make him upset or he wouldn't be > able to concentrate on what he was enjoying. So for years, I was trying to avoid > a meltdown by preparing him w/ frequent warnings (we're leaving in 1 hr, we're > leaving in 30 minutes, we're leaving in 15 minutes, etc...) and he hated it (and > it didn't work!) I almost fell off the couch when I had this light bulb moment! > He'd still have meltdowns when it was time to go. Once the two of us were > clear, he did great. I was very clear with him " you mean, you'd rather me just > tell you when it's time to go instead of giving you any warning? " and he said > " yes " and I said " and you won't have a meltdown? " and he said " no " and the next > time we had to go somewhere and I said " it's time " he paused, almost getting > upset, but then remembered our agreement and got up and we left. Cracks me up > when I think about it now! > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Theresa Stoops <houndlover2@...> > > Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 5:25:05 PM > Subject: Re: ( ) Tantrums? > > > we had this problem with our son, now 16. > What we did was to not warn him ahead as much. Yes we did tell him for a long > time to prevent the melt downs. > But we started out by saying, I am going somewhere between 3-4 today starting > out little. When he asked where , why ect. I would give one. > He would melt down but as time went on he got used to it. > Or sometimes I would just say we are leaving now, maybe just take a short ride > nowhere but to get him used to it. > Now he is pretty ok with it , he still wants to know who, what where but I will > not tell him everything because I know deep in my heart > other people will not do this in the real world so I know I need to prepare him > for unexpected things. > He still will tell teachers sometimes that they are suppose to be doing such > and such during a time. LOL > Theresa Stoops > Coordinator Of > Florida F.A.S.D. Interagency Action Group > 850-408-3789 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2011 Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 My son has a really hard time transistioning as well and I've found that what helps him is not really reminding him a bunch of time but just stating when somethings going to happen and then letting it go until that time comes. Now he's only 4 so I usually show him on the clock and say " when the big hand gets to the top it's time for ___ " and for the most part that really helps him. So maybe you could just tell him a time when somethings going to happen and he can use that time to prepare himself accordingly. > > My son will be 10 in July and has trouble with transitions which is expected ... > > Anytime we want to go anywhere he has a tantrum unless we tell him a day or two in advance and then he expects it ... Sometimes we decide to go out to dinner the same day -- or even stop at a store to pick something up on the way home and he has a tantrum about it. Eventually he calms down - sometimes it takes a few minutes and sometimes a half hour but he'll then accept what we're doing. He sometimes apologizes and might enjoy where we go but it never stops the same behavior from happening again and again. Will this ever end or is this a lifelong thing? > > Thanks, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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