Re: Does anyone have problems giving their child fever reducing meds?

February 17, 2006

Hi there,

who is eight takes his supplements in drinks. Different kettle of

fish taking medicines though.

What I have found works is to add his medicine (especially ones that reduce

temperature) to a little high flavoured juice and stir it up together with a

little no fenol enzyme. He then gets a reward of a sweet once he has drunk

it.

February 17, 2006

I am with you. They aren't 16 and expressing their opinion they are small

children. My son doesn't like his supplements but I figure when he is older he

will either thank me for giving him his life back from autism or send me the

bill for his therapist .

I hate giving my son some of these supplements, he really doesn't like the

taste of them. He is getting used to them and takes them easier now. The trick

is not making such a fuss and definitely not asking them if they want them.

A high fever though isn't always something you need to medicate though. That

is the body's way of fighting off the virus, it is a good and healthy response.

Unless the fever reaches the 104 range I wouldn't do anything except keep the

child comfortable, push the fluids and immune system boosting supplements. As

much vitamin C as you can get and olive leaf extract to begin with. That will

help the body fight the cold off naturally. Tylenol actually can hurt the

situation...depletes something which affects detox. If he is sick a lot immune

system boosters on a regular basis would be a good thing. Suppressing symptoms

is never a good idea. I don't give my kids any cold medicine/fever reducers

unless absolutely necessary and I mean last resort nothing else is working and

they are just plain miserable. All three of mine are ill right now and only one

dose of an antihistamine has been given and that was to help my littlest one

sleep one night.

With sore throats I would try frozen juice pops, not with high sugar as it

depresses the immune system. Definitely watch the fever, one that lasts for

several days should likely be checked out just to rule out infection.

Suppressing a cough that is productive isn't good. Without the body being able

to clear it all out it is easy to get an infection. You don't want all that

junk sitting in his lungs.

Have you read How To Raise A Healthy Child In spite Of Your Doctor by Dr.

Mendelson? I really liked it as it was written by a peds doctor who practiced

for 30 years. I got some really good advice from that book. He also has

another book Confessions of a Medical Heretic which has been really interesting.

Hope he is feeling better soon!

dockathy54 <grannykathy@...> wrote:

My grandson is sick with a high fever, sore throat, and coughing. He

has always refused any sort of meds including tylenol, and other fever

reducing meds. I dont know how much of it to blame on the parents, as

I've seen how they parent him, (as much as I love my daugher and son

in law). They both ask, " do you want..., do you want " and it's

always , no no no. Well of course, it's no, no no. THey shouln't be

giving him a choice. It should be, here is your medecine to help you

feel better, whether it be syrup, pill form, sucker, or meltaway or

even suppository form. THey wont hold him down, pinch his nose,

squirt it in his mouth. Am I wrong, ? I know kids with autism are

fussy on textures, colors, etc. They have apparently seen at the

children's hospital how he wont take meds. All they will do is keep

bathing him in baths and wet washcloths.

Plse share your experiences with me. I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks,

granny kathy (canada)

February 17, 2006

You're right about tylenol, it depletes glutathione. The doctors

were certain for awhile that fevers were causing my daughter's

seizures and would tell me to alternate tylenol and ibuprofen.

Little did I know that she was already low in glutathione!!!

Also, seemed weird that a couple of my relatives died from taking

tylenol...so it just may be a familial detox weakness in our case.

But I now wish I hadn't given it to her back then and had known that

the fevers didn't cause the seizures.

At any rate, there are things my daughter has had to learn to take

that is no fun. Her seizure meds. The enzymes aren't a blast to

have to take either, but I know SHE knows she feels different on

them. I do my best to make it a positive experience for her as I

can.

> My grandson is sick with a high fever, sore throat, and

coughing. He

> has always refused any sort of meds including tylenol, and other

fever

> reducing meds. I dont know how much of it to blame on the

parents, as

> I've seen how they parent him, (as much as I love my daugher and

son

> in law). They both ask, " do you want..., do you want " and it's

> always , no no no. Well of course, it's no, no no. THey shouln't

be

> giving him a choice. It should be, here is your medecine to help

you

> feel better, whether it be syrup, pill form, sucker, or meltaway or

> even suppository form. THey wont hold him down, pinch his nose,

> squirt it in his mouth. Am I wrong, ? I know kids with autism

are

> fussy on textures, colors, etc. They have apparently seen at the

> children's hospital how he wont take meds. All they will do is

keep

> bathing him in baths and wet washcloths.

> Plse share your experiences with me. I would greatly appreciate

it.

>

> Thanks,

> granny kathy (canada)

>

February 17, 2006

Does Motrin deplete glutathione?

> > My grandson is sick with a high fever, sore throat, and

> coughing. He

> > has always refused any sort of meds including tylenol, and other

> fever

> > reducing meds. I dont know how much of it to blame on the

> parents, as

> > I've seen how they parent him, (as much as I love my daugher and

> son

> > in law). They both ask, " do you want..., do you want " and it's

> > always , no no no. Well of course, it's no, no no. THey

shouln't

> be

> > giving him a choice. It should be, here is your medecine to help

> you

> > feel better, whether it be syrup, pill form, sucker, or meltaway

or

> > even suppository form. THey wont hold him down, pinch his nose,

> > squirt it in his mouth. Am I wrong, ? I know kids with

autism

> are

> > fussy on textures, colors, etc. They have apparently seen at the

> > children's hospital how he wont take meds. All they will do is

> keep

> > bathing him in baths and wet washcloths.

> > Plse share your experiences with me. I would greatly appreciate

> it.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > granny kathy (canada)

> >

February 17, 2006

I have to hold my kid down to make him eat just about everything.

Even foods that he likes--if he hasn't eaten them in a while he'll

become averse to the taste again. After forcing him to taste

something a few times, he will often start to cooperate and I don't

have to force him anymore. Yeah, it is a lot of effort and there's

a limit to how much I can get him to cooperate with eating. But

something really important like fever medicine, I think they should

make an all-out effort to get him to take it.

The thing is, my son will vomit up most cold and fever medicines.

But he does well with feverfew tea. That's what I give him.

--

>

> My grandson is sick with a high fever, sore throat, and

coughing. He

> has always refused any sort of meds including tylenol, and other

fever

> reducing meds. I dont know how much of it to blame on the

parents, as

> I've seen how they parent him, (as much as I love my daugher and

son

> in law). They both ask, " do you want..., do you want " and it's

> always , no no no. Well of course, it's no, no no. THey shouln't

be

> giving him a choice. It should be, here is your medecine to help

you

> feel better, whether it be syrup, pill form, sucker, or meltaway or

> even suppository form. THey wont hold him down, pinch his nose,

> squirt it in his mouth. Am I wrong, ? I know kids with autism

are

> fussy on textures, colors, etc. They have apparently seen at the

> children's hospital how he wont take meds. All they will do is

keep

> bathing him in baths and wet washcloths.

> Plse share your experiences with me. I would greatly appreciate

it.

>

> Thanks,

> granny kathy (canada)

>

February 18, 2006

>

> My grandson is sick with a high fever, sore throat, and coughing. He

> has always refused any sort of meds including tylenol, and other fever

> reducing meds. I dont know how much of it to blame on the parents, as

> I've seen how they parent him, (as much as I love my daugher and son

> in law). They both ask, " do you want..., do you want " and it's

> always , no no no. Well of course, it's no, no no. THey shouln't be

> giving him a choice. It should be, here is your medecine to help you

> feel better, whether it be syrup, pill form, sucker, or meltaway or

> even suppository form. THey wont hold him down, pinch his nose,

> squirt it in his mouth. Am I wrong, ?

It depends on the child, and the medication. If it is something like

seizure medication, then the child does need to take it. However, one

of my kids would refuse things that he knew made him feel bad. So I

learned to listen to him if he was refusing something.

>>All they will do is keep

> bathing him in baths and wet washcloths.

This is all I do unless the fever is over 102. Medication can cause

ugly side effects and other problems for certain kids, plus a fever is

the body's way of handling the illness itself. I don't want to

suppress a necessary fever unless it is too high [or the child tends

toward febrile seizures, which fortunately my kids do not].

Dana

February 18, 2006

THank you, and thank you everybody for suggestions, advice on this

topic. You have helped me tremdously. I will back off somewhat in

this area. (age 7) was feeling a bit better yesterday (fri) but

the fever is back up again today (sat) and still coughing. BTW,

has asthma, so he has meds for that, (runs in the family). His

parents tend to give him too much sugar, (gataorade) etc. I am

compiling everything I learn here, so I can give it to the parents to

read. I dont know how far they are willing to go on this

natural/holistic way, because of finances. THey are on Welfare here

in Canada, altho is on the Handicapped Allowance so does get a

small amt of extra money each month for diet, laundry etc. He drools

a lot in his sleep. Is that related to Autism, does anything help

decrease that?

I'm really glad I joined this group, I'm learning lots. I love to do

research and medical stuff. Ppl are amazed at my knowledge and

interests. lol I've had to research so much medical stuff already.

hugs kathy Canada