Re: Need lots of Help- son now on diflucan- desperate for info......

[Guest guest]

>>This is his third day on diflucan and I

> haven't seen any die off yet.

When I gave anti-fungals, my kids never had die off symptoms, they

just improved.

>> We are trying desperately to modify his

> diet but it is hard because he carb and sugar cravings seem worse.

As yeast is dying off, it can cause the body to crave carbs and sugar.

This is actually a good sign.

>>And, if we are not successful at getting him

> to have a yeast free diet will the diflucan work at all?

" Yeast free " is not what you want. Reduced/limited carbs, starches,

and sugars will be beneficial. More info here

http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm

>> Are there

> any herbal yeast fighters that can be used along with the diflucan?

I used grapefruit seed extract, it works very well for my family.

> Are there any yeast fighting enzymes that can be used?

Candidase, No-Fenol, Candex.

>>Can I still use activated charcoal with diflucan?

Yes, give it about 30-45 minutes after the Diflucan.

>> Is pear

> juice better than white grape juice?

Yes

Dana

[Guest guest]

> >>This is his third day on diflucan and I

> > haven't seen any die off yet.

>

>

> When I gave anti-fungals, my kids never had die off symptoms, they

> just improved.

>

>

> >> We are trying desperately to modify his

> > diet but it is hard because he carb and sugar cravings seem worse.

>

>

> As yeast is dying off, it can cause the body to crave carbs and sugar.

> This is actually a good sign.

>

>

> >>And, if we are not successful at getting him

> > to have a yeast free diet will the diflucan work at all?

>

>

> " Yeast free " is not what you want. Reduced/limited carbs, starches,

> and sugars will be beneficial. More info here

>

> http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm

>

>

> >> Are there

> > any herbal yeast fighters that can be used along with the diflucan?

>

>

> I used grapefruit seed extract, it works very well for my family.

>

>

> > Are there any yeast fighting enzymes that can be used?

>

>

> Candidase, No-Fenol, Candex.

>

>

> >>Can I still use activated charcoal with diflucan?

>

>

> Yes, give it about 30-45 minutes after the Diflucan.

>

>

> >> Is pear

> > juice better than white grape juice?

>

>

> Yes

>

> Dana

>

Thank you Dana your advise is always appreciated

Wanda

[Guest guest]

> >>This is his third day on diflucan and I

> > haven't seen any die off yet.

>

>

> When I gave anti-fungals, my kids never had die off symptoms, they

> just improved.

>

>

> >> We are trying desperately to modify his

> > diet but it is hard because he carb and sugar cravings seem worse.

>

>

> As yeast is dying off, it can cause the body to crave carbs and sugar.

> This is actually a good sign.

>

>

> >>And, if we are not successful at getting him

> > to have a yeast free diet will the diflucan work at all?

>

>

> " Yeast free " is not what you want. Reduced/limited carbs, starches,

> and sugars will be beneficial. More info here

>

> http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm

>

>

> >> Are there

> > any herbal yeast fighters that can be used along with the diflucan?

>

>

> I used grapefruit seed extract, it works very well for my family.

>

>

> > Are there any yeast fighting enzymes that can be used?

>

>

> Candidase, No-Fenol, Candex.

>

>

> >>Can I still use activated charcoal with diflucan?

>

>

> Yes, give it about 30-45 minutes after the Diflucan.

>

>

> >> Is pear

> > juice better than white grape juice?

>

>

> Yes

>

> Dana

>

Dana,

have you used diflucan for your children? If so when should I give it

to him? Right now we are giving it before dinner. Then I have added 1

capsule of activated charcoal about an hour after he has his diflucan.

After his diflucan he gets very silly and out of it- is this die off?

He hasn't had any constipation since he is on the diflucan. I've

noticed more red ears since being on it. Is this from die off?

Usually he gets red ears at the same time as his bowel movements and

then the red ears last for at least an hour. Is this due to the yeast

being moved around during bms? Sometimes he gets very hyper right

before or after a bm. He usually acts better after the Bm though. His

appetite is down (except for lollipops and raisins that he keeps

leading me to the closet for and I don't give in). His sleep has

improved though- no more night wakings when he is on antifungals. He

has been more moody and tired lately. How much activated charcoal is

good for a 3 yr old who weighs 31 lbs? Also, does goat's milk contain

casein? Do you think enzyme complete II from kirkman's is a good

enzyme? Is it any better than the Houston Trio? My DAN dr. didn't

say it was better than houston trio but he prescribed the Kirkman

enzymes. Also, My son's celiac panel came back normal and his gluten

intolerance test came back normal- but, his celia gene blood test came

back as " results cannot exclude celiac disease " - do you know what this

might mean? I think it means they found something but couldn't link

it to celiac one way or another - but of course they never explain in

detail exactly what it is they have found. My son's sugar cravings

are terrible!!!! Do you still give B vitamins if your kids have yeast

as long as you are doing a yeast protocol too? Because he has

hypoglycemia all the B vitamins would really help him. Is there some

way that b vitamins can be given as to bypass the gut and which b

vitamins don't add to the yeast problems? Because I really think he

could use b1 thiamine because he eats mostly rice for grains and eats

barely any veggies. Sorry so long. I have so many questions and my

DAN doctor never has the time to answer them all. Also, What do you

think of Threelac? I was thinking about trying it on myself first

because I have yeast issues and any time I try to treat them with

enzymes I seem to get heart palpitations and stomach upsets. Do you

know if you can use Goldenseal with Diflucan? He seemed to do so well

on it before and his nutritionist had reccommended it. Do you know

about using aloe to help with leaky gut and if so can it be used even

if you have a yeast problem?

Thank you again in advance, I am in such a bad state tonight because

my dog is going into kidney failure and he will die if I don't get him

on supplements, meds, subcutaneous fluids, prescription dog food - all

of which will run about 250 a month and the supplements for my son are

now about $300 a month - so, I may have to have my dog put to sleep

because I cannot afford to do both and he was my baby before my son

was and I feel so bad. But, anyway.

So I am desperate for help for my son. Really appreciate it.

Wanda

[Guest guest]

> Dana,

> have you used diflucan for your children?

No, I used natural anti-fungals.

> After his diflucan he gets very silly and out of it- is this die off?

It might be.

> He hasn't had any constipation since he is on the diflucan.

This is a good sign. Yeast can be constipating.

>> I've

> noticed more red ears since being on it. Is this from die off?

> Usually he gets red ears at the same time as his bowel movements and

> then the red ears last for at least an hour. Is this due to the yeast

> being moved around during bms?

It could be, altho red ears is commonly a sign of phenol intolerance,

possibly other foods. What are the ingredients of the Diflucan? Does

it have dye or flavor? Those would be high phenol. Try giving the

Diflucan with No-Fenol, see if that helps. Or have it compounded

without dyes or flavors.

>>How much activated charcoal is

> good for a 3 yr old who weighs 31 lbs?

I don't know, I have never used it. You can start with 1/4 the

recommended dose on the label tho, see if that helps.

>> Also, does goat's milk contain

> casein?

Yes, altho it is more easily digested than cow milk casein.

>> Do you think enzyme complete II from kirkman's is a good

> enzyme?

I have never used it. I have read some good stories about it from

other parents. Most parents report their kids do better with HNI tho.

>>Also, My son's celiac panel came back normal and his gluten

> intolerance test came back normal- but, his celia gene blood test came

> back as " results cannot exclude celiac disease " - do you know what this

> might mean? I think it means they found something but couldn't link

> it to celiac one way or another

I agree with you.

>>My son's sugar cravings

> are terrible!!!!

Yeast die off can cause this.

>> Do you still give B vitamins if your kids have yeast

> as long as you are doing a yeast protocol too?

Yes, but I increased the yeast protocol.

>>Is there some

> way that b vitamins can be given as to bypass the gut

B12 shots, transdermal for the others. They will still tend to

increase yeast, but not as much as oral.

>> and which b

> vitamins don't add to the yeast problems?

In my experience, only biotin.

>>Also, What do you

> think of Threelac?

I have never used it. I have read some good reports tho.

>>Do you

> know if you can use Goldenseal with Diflucan?

No, sorry.

Sorry to hear about your dog. I hope things work out for you.

Good luck.

Dana