Re: Virastop-other supplements question

[Guest guest]

I give OLE 20-30 minutes before breakfast.

Did you try to stop it for a few days? that's usually how I can tell

if a supplement is helping or not my son.

Sorry, I don't know about your other questions.

>

> Hello I know this comes up a lot, but I am still confused about

what

> supplements can be given together and which should be given away

from

> each other and food. Also, I have started the Virastop enzyme

in

> addition to continuing dose of 400 MG OLE (200mg twice daily).

> Should these be given together and does it always have to be on

empty

> stomach. The virastop bottle says give 1 hour before food, does

> anyone else have success doing it differently?? I am having a

hard

> time coordinating everything and would like some help on this. I

> am also using " Ojibwa Tea of Life " which has to be given at least 1

> hour away from food or any other supplements. (I have seen some

> really good results from the tea and do not want to discontinue it

at

> this time.) I give the tea first thing in the morning 1 hour

before

> brkfst and then again right before bed.

>

> Other than that we also do multi-vitamin/mineral, vitamin C,

> magnesium, probiotic, DMG w/MB12 and folinic, GSE, OLE and now

adding

> virastop. I also use all 3 houston enzymes and give these 4

times

> daily with the supplements. (usually before meals/snacks) So

if

> virastop and OLE should be given on empty stomach I'm not sure I

can

> make all this work.

>

> By the way we have been using the OLE for about 3 weeks without any

> noticable change one way or another with exception to a little nose

> running. I once tried to up the dose, but it was too much phenol

> and caused a phenol reaction, even with no-fenol enzyme. Perhaps

it

> is not having much of an affect because I am giving it prior to

> food? Any help on this MUCH appreciated. Sheresa

>

[Guest guest]

> > Should these be given together and does it always have to be on

> empty

> > stomach. The virastop bottle says give 1 hour before food, does

> > anyone else have success doing it differently??

None of the 3 of us were able to tolerate ViraStop on an empty

stomach, although you are supposed to take it that way. But even with

food it has had amazing results here. (OLE usually with food also,

although it is fine with or without. Virastop causes really bad

stomachaches or reflux for us, without food.)

> > By the way we have been using the OLE for about 3 weeks without

any

> > noticable change one way or another with exception to a little

nose

> > running. I once tried to up the dose, but it was too much phenol

> > and caused a phenol reaction, even with no-fenol enzyme. Perhaps

> it

> > is not having much of an affect because I am giving it prior to

> > food?

We use OLE with food and it works. I didn't see any autism

improvements initially either, but I did see a very significant

reduction in length and severity of illnesse, like colds, and

allergies (especially environmental allergies, not so much with food

issues.) So over time my son has gone from sick twice a month to

almost never. Our allergy symptoms have been almost invisible, to

everyone but us (behaviors or small things like dark circles under my

kids' eyes), last fall and so far this spring.

So you might notice over time, a general health improvement. It is

also very effective when you're exposed to something or first coming

down with it (like or with echinacea), to shorten the duration.

Amy

[Guest guest]

Thanks Amy-can I ask further what type of amazing results you

experienced with the Virastop and how long did it take to see those

results?? Sheresa

>

>

> > > Should these be given together and does it always have to be on

> > empty

> > > stomach. The virastop bottle says give 1 hour before food,

does

> > > anyone else have success doing it differently??

>

> None of the 3 of us were able to tolerate ViraStop on an empty

> stomach, although you are supposed to take it that way. But even

with

> food it has had amazing results here. (OLE usually with food also,

> although it is fine with or without. Virastop causes really bad

> stomachaches or reflux for us, without food.)

>

> > > By the way we have been using the OLE for about 3 weeks without

> any

> > > noticable change one way or another with exception to a little

> nose

> > > running. I once tried to up the dose, but it was too much

phenol

> > > and caused a phenol reaction, even with no-fenol enzyme.

Perhaps

> > it

> > > is not having much of an affect because I am giving it prior to

> > > food?

>

> We use OLE with food and it works. I didn't see any autism

> improvements initially either, but I did see a very significant

> reduction in length and severity of illnesse, like colds, and

> allergies (especially environmental allergies, not so much with

food

> issues.) So over time my son has gone from sick twice a month to

> almost never. Our allergy symptoms have been almost invisible, to

> everyone but us (behaviors or small things like dark circles under

my

> kids' eyes), last fall and so far this spring.

>

> So you might notice over time, a general health improvement. It is

> also very effective when you're exposed to something or first

coming

> down with it (like or with echinacea), to shorten the duration.

>

> Amy

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks -I haven't stopped it to see if it made a difference.

Since we are only on about week 3 I wanted to give it at least a good

month or so. However, I may try that to see if it is helping

because it does seem to take up a lot of her " phenol " tolerance

reserves, so to speak. I would hate to keep going with it if it

isn't helping. Thanks again for your insight. Sheresa

> >

> > Hello I know this comes up a lot, but I am still confused about

> what

> > supplements can be given together and which should be given away

> from

> > each other and food. Also, I have started the Virastop enzyme

> in

> > addition to continuing dose of 400 MG OLE (200mg twice daily).

> > Should these be given together and does it always have to be on

> empty

> > stomach. The virastop bottle says give 1 hour before food, does

> > anyone else have success doing it differently?? I am having a

> hard

> > time coordinating everything and would like some help on this.

I

> > am also using " Ojibwa Tea of Life " which has to be given at least

1

> > hour away from food or any other supplements. (I have seen some

> > really good results from the tea and do not want to discontinue

it

> at

> > this time.) I give the tea first thing in the morning 1 hour

> before

> > brkfst and then again right before bed.

> >

> > Other than that we also do multi-vitamin/mineral, vitamin C,

> > magnesium, probiotic, DMG w/MB12 and folinic, GSE, OLE and now

> adding

> > virastop. I also use all 3 houston enzymes and give these 4

> times

> > daily with the supplements. (usually before meals/snacks)

So

> if

> > virastop and OLE should be given on empty stomach I'm not sure I

> can

> > make all this work.

> >

> > By the way we have been using the OLE for about 3 weeks without

any

> > noticable change one way or another with exception to a little

nose

> > running. I once tried to up the dose, but it was too much

phenol

> > and caused a phenol reaction, even with no-fenol enzyme.

Perhaps

> it

> > is not having much of an affect because I am giving it prior to

> > food? Any help on this MUCH appreciated. Sheresa

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Thanks Amy-can I ask further what type of amazing results you

> experienced with the Virastop and how long did it take to see those

> results?? Sheresa

My son's language abilites really improved. For example he is able to

put almost abstract concepts together in his mind, regarding

language. I have not tried to teach him to call me anything for

years, but he started calling me " Amy. " He is able to spontaneously

come up with things that he's not previously been taught and use " I

don't like " and " Where is " as well as " I want/I see " sentences. So

his ability to use slightly more complex language, as well as come up

with the phrases or ideas on his own, opened up.

For instance a few weeks ago he wanted me to come lay with him (I

didn't know that though, he was just yelling out " uhhh " from his

room.) I didn't think he'd really answer me but I yelled

back, " What? " and he replied, " I want a Amy. " He would have yelled

his word that means " come " before, or come and gotten me physically.

That was very abstract for him to come up with and say totally on his

own, without any scripting or having been taught that in any way.

It is kind of hard to put into words because it's more like what Dr.

Megson talks about, pathways being unblocked, than an actual

quantifiable number of new words or something more like that, but it's

really astonishing to see him able to retrieve and use language in

ways I wouldn't even know how to teach him, because it's starting in

his mind before he forms the actual thoughts or words. Like the idea

to use language to communicate is starting to take hold in a new,

stronger way.

He was a prenatal/HepB mercury baby who was clearly autistic from

about 2 days old, so I didn't realize viral issues applied to him, but

I tried using the Vitamin A protocol initially because, well, I pretty

much try everything Dana's done (and my son did have all his vaccines,

including MMR, and lost what little he had after that). The high dose

Vitamin A really helped with language acquisition and increasing

vocabulary. But the Virastop is doing exponentially what that did.

Amy

[Guest guest]

That is so amazing and wonderful. Thanks for sharing it with me.

We could certainly use some of those type improvements. My daughter

is verbal, but she doesn't have much skill in coming up with novel

things to say. She was more of a flu shot victim and didn't really

show much problem until around 12 months after her first flu shot.

Of course it wasn't such a noticeable thing that I could put it all

together at that time. So she went on to get 2 more flu shots, along

with everything else until I really noticed the connection. Thank

goodness I put it all together before her 4 year boosters which

**would** have included the MMR booster. And she would have also

received yet another flu shot last fall. (makes me shudder to think

about it)

Anyway, today was only my second day to give just 1 virastop so we

will see how this progresses. I truly don't know if she has viral

issues or not, but I guess you don't know until you try some things.

And I'm like you, I have read probably everything on Dana's site and

have learned so much from her. She is amazing. By the way, what

dose of virastop are you using for your son. I've heard many

variations on this. Sheresa

> >

> > Thanks Amy-can I ask further what type of amazing results you

> > experienced with the Virastop and how long did it take to see

those

> > results?? Sheresa

>

> My son's language abilites really improved. For example he is able

to

> put almost abstract concepts together in his mind, regarding

> language. I have not tried to teach him to call me anything for

> years, but he started calling me " Amy. " He is able to

spontaneously

> come up with things that he's not previously been taught and use " I

> don't like " and " Where is " as well as " I want/I see " sentences. So

> his ability to use slightly more complex language, as well as come

up

> with the phrases or ideas on his own, opened up.

>

> For instance a few weeks ago he wanted me to come lay with him (I

> didn't know that though, he was just yelling out " uhhh " from his

> room.) I didn't think he'd really answer me but I yelled

> back, " What? " and he replied, " I want a Amy. " He would have

yelled

> his word that means " come " before, or come and gotten me

physically.

> That was very abstract for him to come up with and say totally on

his

> own, without any scripting or having been taught that in any way.

>

> It is kind of hard to put into words because it's more like what

Dr.

> Megson talks about, pathways being unblocked, than an actual

> quantifiable number of new words or something more like that, but

it's

> really astonishing to see him able to retrieve and use language in

> ways I wouldn't even know how to teach him, because it's starting

in

> his mind before he forms the actual thoughts or words. Like the

idea

> to use language to communicate is starting to take hold in a new,

> stronger way.

>

> He was a prenatal/HepB mercury baby who was clearly autistic from

> about 2 days old, so I didn't realize viral issues applied to him,

but

> I tried using the Vitamin A protocol initially because, well, I

pretty

> much try everything Dana's done (and my son did have all his

vaccines,

> including MMR, and lost what little he had after that). The high

dose

> Vitamin A really helped with language acquisition and increasing

> vocabulary. But the Virastop is doing exponentially what that did.

>

> Amy

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hello I know this comes up a lot, but I am still confused about what

> supplements can be given together and which should be given away from

> each other and food.

List what you give.

Or you can read the relevant pages here

http://www.kroger.com/hn/Index/Supp.htm

>>Also, I have started the Virastop enzyme in

> addition to continuing dose of 400 MG OLE (200mg twice daily).

> Should these be given together and does it always have to be on empty

> stomach.

I give them together. Sometimes it is really close to a meal, but

usually it is about an hour before meals. And sometimes my son will

want a snack right after I give him the supplements LOL

> By the way we have been using the OLE for about 3 weeks without any

> noticable change one way or another with exception to a little nose

> running.

I gave OLE for several months and did not really notice anything, so I

tried to remove it. MAJOR REACTION!!!! So it might be that you don't

notice anything unless you try to remove it, especially if there are

severe virus issues.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Dana thanks for that great link. I will study that one for sure.

I'm not sure how well the virastop is going so far. This is the 3rd

day of giving just 1 capsule and I think I am seeing some behavior

regressions. (getting upset about things that generally wouldn't,

spinning with her eyes closed-just a few times, and just generally

fussier. I'm nervous to keep going with it. I have been giving

it with OLE and no-fenol, but away from other supplements- and she

too will sometimes snack after the supplement. So I'm not sure if

I should continue. Maybe she doesn't tolerate the virastop.

Sheresa

> >

> > Hello I know this comes up a lot, but I am still confused about

what

> > supplements can be given together and which should be given away

from

> > each other and food.

>

>

> List what you give.

>

> Or you can read the relevant pages here

>

> http://www.kroger.com/hn/Index/Supp.htm

>

>

> >>Also, I have started the Virastop enzyme in

> > addition to continuing dose of 400 MG OLE (200mg twice daily).

> > Should these be given together and does it always have to be on

empty

> > stomach.

>

>

> I give them together. Sometimes it is really close to a meal, but

> usually it is about an hour before meals. And sometimes my son will

> want a snack right after I give him the supplements LOL

>

>

> > By the way we have been using the OLE for about 3 weeks without

any

> > noticable change one way or another with exception to a little

nose

> > running.

>

>

> I gave OLE for several months and did not really notice anything,

so I

> tried to remove it. MAJOR REACTION!!!! So it might be that you

don't

> notice anything unless you try to remove it, especially if there are

> severe virus issues.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

> Dana thanks for that great link. I will study that one for sure.

> I'm not sure how well the virastop is going so far. This is the 3rd

> day of giving just 1 capsule and I think I am seeing some behavior

> regressions. (getting upset about things that generally wouldn't,

> spinning with her eyes closed-just a few times, and just generally

> fussier.

For my son, spinning meant yeast overgrowth

http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm

Increase your yeast protocol, see if that helps.

Dana