Re: new here, questions about 10 month old now: breastfeeding

[Guest guest]

Leigh Anne,

My son was dx PDD-NOS at his second birthday, and after a year of speech

therapy at OT lost that diagnosis. I know speech therapy and OT don't

cure autism, and that it doesn't go away by itself. So I've puzzled

over why my son, whose two cousins are autistic) was spared.

Today I read in Children With Starving Brains that autism is rare in

breastfed children and that some children's autism dates to when they

were weaned. That fits our situation: my son was exclusively breastfed

for 7.5 months and didn't wean for a loooong time after that. When he

finally did wean his behavior slowly deteriorated, till two years later

our family life was nearly unbearable. (He's now responding well to GFCF

diet and enzymes.)

We all make decisions based on the information we have. Most of us

didn't have the information we needed when we were making vaccination

decisions, and I believe the same is true for the breastfeeding/weaning

decision. Nobody told us. Since you're still nursing your little girl, I

thought I'd mention it.

G.

Leigh Anne Carson wrote:

> No my daughter has not been vax. She didn't regress in any other

> area, just speech. She is crawling well and has good fine motor

> control for her age. She was introduced to solid food in the time

> frame that her babbling stopped and she definitely has food

> sensivities like her brother. I'm still trying to figure out what

> she reacts to and what is okay. We are gf/cf/nf (she is breastfed).

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the thoughts . My ASD son also nursed for a loooong

time. He really didn't want to eat solid food - even at 18 months

old! Perhaps his little body " knew " that he wasn't ready for it. He

has always been very shy, but his autistic behaviours did not really

show up until 6 months post-weaning. Interesting. He is responding

well to enzymes and we have been gf/cf for at least a year because he

has either constipation or diarrhea if we are not on that diet.

Warmly,

Leigh Anne

>

> > No my daughter has not been vax. She didn't regress in any other

> > area, just speech. She is crawling well and has good fine motor

> > control for her age. She was introduced to solid food in the time

> > frame that her babbling stopped and she definitely has food

> > sensivities like her brother. I'm still trying to figure out what

> > she reacts to and what is okay. We are gf/cf/nf (she is

breastfed).

>

[Guest guest]

Interesting... I think my daughter's symptoms were exacerbated upon

weaning. She weaned from breastfeeding to bottle after bottle of

milk. She nursed a lot too up till age 15 months, I remember

thinking if I weaned her she would eat better. Of course that didn't

happen. Her growth had also started to drop and I started to doubt

my milk. She ended up addicted to casein and of course this year we

found out she has peptides in her urine and she is now off of milk!

I am trying to observe my son better. He seems to be naturally

weaning already and LOVES solids - baby foods, however, he has been

constipated upon starting solids. Any suggestions for this?? I

thought about stopping solids but he insists with big loud

vocalizations upon eating!!

> >

> > > No my daughter has not been vax. She didn't regress in any

other

> > > area, just speech. She is crawling well and has good fine

motor

> > > control for her age. She was introduced to solid food in the

time

> > > frame that her babbling stopped and she definitely has food

> > > sensivities like her brother. I'm still trying to figure out

what

> > > she reacts to and what is okay. We are gf/cf/nf (she is

> breastfed).

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Is he having grains or vegetables for his first solids? Pediatricians

love to recommend rice cereal and it always seems to constipate them.

Unsolicited advice: do whatever you can to keep your little guy nursing.

Offer the solids after he's nursed, not before. When they first start

solids you really don't know how much they're absorbing from it.

Breastfeeding is their real food during that transition, which can be

many months. If he's just too busy to slow down and nurse, try it when

he's going to sleep or just waking up. Some babies/toddlers will even

nurse *while* they're sleeping--it may be the only time they hold still

long enough! Sometimes a warm bath with mom can slow a busy little one

down enough to get a good feeding into him. IMO it's worth doing

whatever you can to keep that going, because it's sooo valuable for our

little guys in particular. Ok, end of unsolicited advice.

Cheers,

G.

jennaleeck wrote:

> Interesting... I think my daughter's symptoms were exacerbated upon

> weaning. She weaned from breastfeeding to bottle after bottle of

> milk....

> I am trying to observe my son better. He seems to be naturally

> weaning already and LOVES solids - baby foods, however, he has been

> constipated upon starting solids. Any suggestions for this?? I

> thought about stopping solids but he insists with big loud

> vocalizations upon eating!! ---

> " Leigh Anne Carson " wrote:

> >

> > Thanks for the thoughts . My ASD son also nursed for a

> loooong

> > time. He really didn't want to eat solid food - even at 18 months

> > old! Perhaps his little body " knew " that he wasn't ready for it.

> He

> > has always been very shy, but his autistic behaviours did not

> really

> > show up until 6 months post-weaning. Interesting.

>

> >

>

> > > Today I read in Children With Starving Brains that autism is

> rare

> > in

> > > breastfed children and that some children's autism dates to when

> > they

> > > were weaned. That fits our situation: my son was exclusively

> > breastfed

> > > for 7.5 months and didn't wean for a loooong time after that.

> When

> > he

> > > finally did wean his behavior slowly deteriorated, till two

> years

> > later

> > > our family life was nearly unbearable.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

For us, enzymes break things up and the probiotics keep things moving. is

now 16 mo. Doing Great.

Re: new here, questions about 10 month old now:

breastfeeding

Interesting... I think my daughter's symptoms were exacerbated upon

weaning. She weaned from breastfeeding to bottle after bottle of

milk. She nursed a lot too up till age 15 months, I remember

thinking if I weaned her she would eat better. Of course that didn't

happen. Her growth had also started to drop and I started to doubt

my milk. She ended up addicted to casein and of course this year we

found out she has peptides in her urine and she is now off of milk!

I am trying to observe my son better. He seems to be naturally

weaning already and LOVES solids - baby foods, however, he has been

constipated upon starting solids. Any suggestions for this?? I

thought about stopping solids but he insists with big loud

vocalizations upon eating!!

> >

> > > No my daughter has not been vax. She didn't regress in any

other

> > > area, just speech. She is crawling well and has good fine

motor

> > > control for her age. She was introduced to solid food in the

time

> > > frame that her babbling stopped and she definitely has food

> > > sensivities like her brother. I'm still trying to figure out

what

> > > she reacts to and what is okay. We are gf/cf/nf (she is

> breastfed).

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I breast fed my son for 22 months and he was dx PDDNOS at 2 and half, but

has lost that dx now. His symptoms started somewhere between 18 months and

2yo. I have wondered over the years if his recovery was partially based on

the breastfeeding keeping him with the best nutrition around. It didn't help

the ear infections though - he had like 15 ear infections before he was 2

and sometimes on antibiotics for 3 months straight. He was vaccinated also.

My younger son, NT, was not vaccinated and nursed for 3years.

Re: new here, questions about 10 month old now:

breastfeeding

For us, enzymes break things up and the probiotics keep things moving.

is now 16 mo. Doing Great.

Re: new here, questions about 10 month old now:

breastfeeding

Interesting... I think my daughter's symptoms were exacerbated upon

weaning. She weaned from breastfeeding to bottle after bottle of

milk. She nursed a lot too up till age 15 months, I remember

thinking if I weaned her she would eat better. Of course that didn't

happen. Her growth had also started to drop and I started to doubt

my milk. She ended up addicted to casein and of course this year we

found out she has peptides in her urine and she is now off of milk!

I am trying to observe my son better. He seems to be naturally

weaning already and LOVES solids - baby foods, however, he has been

constipated upon starting solids. Any suggestions for this?? I

thought about stopping solids but he insists with big loud

vocalizations upon eating!!

> >

> > > No my daughter has not been vax. She didn't regress in any

other

> > > area, just speech. She is crawling well and has good fine

motor

> > > control for her age. She was introduced to solid food in the

time

> > > frame that her babbling stopped and she definitely has food

> > > sensivities like her brother. I'm still trying to figure out

what

> > > she reacts to and what is okay. We are gf/cf/nf (she is

> breastfed).

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I love advice so no problem. My oldest, NT boy nursed till he was

almost 2 1/2, so I am a big fan of extended nursing. I of course

regret weaning my daughter... hindsight is 20/20. My son is not

doing cereals - fruits (pears, apples with plums, that is about it

for fruit, oh papaya) and veggies (peas, carrots, sweet potato,

squash). He is not big on nursing during the day, but I offer all

the time, and as you suggested he does best when he is getting sleepy

and just wakes up. And he also is a good night nurser and early

morning nurser. My other problem is that our sitter who watches the

kids 2 days per week went on vacation and he refused the bottle for

my husband. We have not been able to woo him back to the bottle. So

2 days perweek he is not getting much fluid. He is taking prune

juice in a starter cup - I was desperate to help the bowels move.

Should I mix breastmilk in with the juice? He is such a fiesty

little guy! Thanks so much for your input.

in with the prune juice and have the sitter offer that? Have th- In

, G <jsbach@...> wrote:

>

> Is he having grains or vegetables for his first solids?

Pediatricians

> love to recommend rice cereal and it always seems to constipate

them.

>

> Unsolicited advice: do whatever you can to keep your little guy

nursing.

> Offer the solids after he's nursed, not before. When they first

start

> solids you really don't know how much they're absorbing from it.

> Breastfeeding is their real food during that transition, which can

be

> many months. If he's just too busy to slow down and nurse, try it

when

> he's going to sleep or just waking up. Some babies/toddlers will

even

> nurse *while* they're sleeping--it may be the only time they hold

still

> long enough! Sometimes a warm bath with mom can slow a busy little

one

> down enough to get a good feeding into him. IMO it's worth doing

> whatever you can to keep that going, because it's sooo valuable for

our

> little guys in particular. Ok, end of unsolicited advice.

>

> Cheers,

> G.

>

>

> jennaleeck wrote:

>

> > Interesting... I think my daughter's symptoms were exacerbated

upon

> > weaning. She weaned from breastfeeding to bottle after bottle of

> > milk....

> > I am trying to observe my son better. He seems to be naturally

> > weaning already and LOVES solids - baby foods, however, he has

been

> > constipated upon starting solids. Any suggestions for this?? I

> > thought about stopping solids but he insists with big loud

> > vocalizations upon eating!! ---

>

>

> > " Leigh Anne Carson " wrote:

> > >

> > > Thanks for the thoughts . My ASD son also nursed for a

> > loooong

> > > time. He really didn't want to eat solid food - even at 18

months

> > > old! Perhaps his little body " knew " that he wasn't ready for

it.

> > He

> > > has always been very shy, but his autistic behaviours did not

> > really

> > > show up until 6 months post-weaning. Interesting.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > > Today I read in Children With Starving Brains that autism is

> > rare

> > > in

> > > > breastfed children and that some children's autism dates to

when

> > > they

> > > > were weaned. That fits our situation: my son was exclusively

> > > breastfed

> > > > for 7.5 months and didn't wean for a loooong time after that.

> > When

> > > he

> > > > finally did wean his behavior slowly deteriorated, till two

> > years

> > > later

> > > > our family life was nearly unbearable.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I wanted to mention that I breastfed exclusevly for 6 months and

continued until DS was 3.5 actually that was 4 months ago. After

weaning he became more " classical autistic " his autism got way worse.

It was the sadest seeing him going down hill, I even tried to BF him

again, it was impossible.We are on GFCF since January, he has had

terrible gutproblem. We saw a Kinesiologist and started enzymes last

week. He improved to the point that you coulnt see any autism

however with infractions he regresses and can look very

autistic.Therefore I introduced enzymes since since its impossible

to be a 100 % all the time especially if none of the familit

memebers believe anything what iam saying regarding DS.He responded

well to enzymes so far.Breastfeeding defenetly helped. Stpping was

really bad..

Bea

> > >

> > > > No my daughter has not been vax. She didn't regress in

any

> other

> > > > area, just speech. She is crawling well and has good fine

> motor

> > > > control for her age. She was introduced to solid food in

the

> time

> > > > frame that her babbling stopped and she definitely has food

> > > > sensivities like her brother. I'm still trying to figure

out

> what

> > > > she reacts to and what is okay. We are gf/cf/nf (she is

> > breastfed).

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I had this same experience. My dd still breastfed just a few minutes at

bedtime until her 4th birthday. She regressed dramatically during the 2

months after she stopped, from an antisocial quick-to-tantrum preschooler

who had lots of " issues " but talked fine, to acting completely autistic, not

responding to name or anything else, talk dissolved into gibberish if at

all, no interest in drawing, etc., etc. Started GFCF as soon as we heard

about it and it brought her back. Since she was only " autistic " for 2

months, by the time she had appointments for assessments she was better and

therefore has no diagnosis. But they wouldn't believe me about the diet and

said it prob wasn't autism because she regressed so late, rather maybe an

anxiety disorder like selective mutism and she spontaneously got better. I

know better, but it's hard to deal with lack of support from family, who

would rather believe the doctors and give up this crazy diet.

I'd be interested to find out if there are many other people whose kids have

had late regressions after stopping breastfeeding.

Jeanne

From: " schwarzbeatrix " schwarzbeatrix@...

Date: Fri Apr 28, 2006 11:20pm(PDT)

Subject: Re: new here, questions about 10 month old now: breastfeeding

I wanted to mention that I breastfed exclusevly for 6 months and

continued until DS was 3.5 actually that was 4 months ago. After

weaning he became more " classical autistic " his autism got way worse.

It was the sadest seeing him going down hill, I even tried to BF him

again, it was impossible.We are on GFCF since January, he has had

terrible gutproblem. We saw a Kinesiologist and started enzymes last

week. He improved to the point that you coulnt see any autism

however with infractions he regresses and can look very

autistic.Therefore I introduced enzymes since since its impossible

to be a 100 % all the time especially if none of the familit

memebers believe anything what iam saying regarding DS.He responded

well to enzymes so far.Breastfeeding defenetly helped. Stpping was

really bad..

Bea

[Guest guest]

Jeanne,

'Selective mutism' was a label given to our daughter, now 21 yrs. imo

this is a cop out. It took me until she was 15 to find info about

biomedical, the vaccine connection etc. GFCF was a huge benefit for

her - it still is! She went through years of uncontrolled seizures

after a Dt booster at age 6. Taking gluten and casein out of her diet

has enabled her to be seizure free and markedly reduce meds. If the

diet is helping, keep it up!!! You are your child's best[sometimes

only] advocate. I view 'selective mutism' as just another chapter of

vaccine injury.

Have you done a hair test? Our daughter was/is toxic. We've been

chelating for awhile now. Chelation has helped with many aresa

including her 'mutism' and social anxiety.

>

> I had this same experience. My dd still breastfed just a few

minutes at

> bedtime until her 4th birthday. She regressed dramatically during

the 2

> months after she stopped, from an antisocial quick-to-tantrum

preschooler

> who had lots of " issues " but talked fine, to acting completely

autistic, not

> responding to name or anything else, talk dissolved into gibberish

if at

> all, no interest in drawing, etc., etc. Started GFCF as soon as we

heard

> about it and it brought her back. Since she was only " autistic " for

2

> months, by the time she had appointments for assessments she was

better and

> therefore has no diagnosis. But they wouldn't believe me about the

diet and

> said it prob wasn't autism because she regressed so late, rather

maybe an

> anxiety disorder like selective mutism and she spontaneously got

better. I

> know better, but it's hard to deal with lack of support from

family, who

> would rather believe the doctors and give up this crazy diet.

> I'd be interested to find out if there are many other people whose

kids have

> had late regressions after stopping breastfeeding.

> Jeanne

>

> From: " schwarzbeatrix " schwarzbeatrix@...

> Date: Fri Apr 28, 2006 11:20pm(PDT)

> Subject: Re: new here, questions about 10 month old now:

breastfeeding

>

> I wanted to mention that I breastfed exclusevly for 6 months and

> continued until DS was 3.5 actually that was 4 months ago. After

> weaning he became more " classical autistic " his autism got way

worse.

> It was the sadest seeing him going down hill, I even tried to BF

him

> again, it was impossible.We are on GFCF since January, he has had

> terrible gutproblem. We saw a Kinesiologist and started enzymes

last

> week. He improved to the point that you coulnt see any autism

> however with infractions he regresses and can look very

> autistic.Therefore I introduced enzymes since since its impossible

> to be a 100 % all the time especially if none of the familit

> memebers believe anything what iam saying regarding DS.He responded

> well to enzymes so far.Breastfeeding defenetly helped. Stpping was

> really bad..

> Bea

>

[Guest guest]

Thinking about this " selective mutism " question, the diagnosis makes it sound

like the

child is choosing to speak only in certain situations. But it is well-known

that in an

organic brain condition, anxiety makes the symptoms worse. So if the child is

more

comfortable at home than at school, and so anxious at school...that doesn't

necessarily

mean it's not an organic problem. In fact it might indicate just the opposite.

Peace,

Kathy E.

> >

> > I had this same experience. My dd still breastfed just a few

> minutes at

> > bedtime until her 4th birthday. She regressed dramatically during

> the 2

> > months after she stopped, from an antisocial quick-to-tantrum

> preschooler

> > who had lots of " issues " but talked fine, to acting completely

> autistic, not

> > responding to name or anything else, talk dissolved into gibberish

> if at

> > all, no interest in drawing, etc., etc. Started GFCF as soon as we

> heard

> > about it and it brought her back. Since she was only " autistic " for

> 2

> > months, by the time she had appointments for assessments she was

> better and

> > therefore has no diagnosis. But they wouldn't believe me about the

> diet and

> > said it prob wasn't autism because she regressed so late, rather

> maybe an

> > anxiety disorder like selective mutism and she spontaneously got

> better. I

> > know better, but it's hard to deal with lack of support from

> family, who

> > would rather believe the doctors and give up this crazy diet.

> > I'd be interested to find out if there are many other people whose

> kids have

> > had late regressions after stopping breastfeeding.

> > Jeanne

> >

> > From: " schwarzbeatrix " schwarzbeatrix@

> > Date: Fri Apr 28, 2006 11:20pm(PDT)

> > Subject: Re: new here, questions about 10 month old now:

> breastfeeding

> >

> > I wanted to mention that I breastfed exclusevly for 6 months and

> > continued until DS was 3.5 actually that was 4 months ago. After

> > weaning he became more " classical autistic " his autism got way

> worse.

> > It was the sadest seeing him going down hill, I even tried to BF

> him

> > again, it was impossible.We are on GFCF since January, he has had

> > terrible gutproblem. We saw a Kinesiologist and started enzymes

> last

> > week. He improved to the point that you coulnt see any autism

> > however with infractions he regresses and can look very

> > autistic.Therefore I introduced enzymes since since its impossible

> > to be a 100 % all the time especially if none of the familit

> > memebers believe anything what iam saying regarding DS.He responded

> > well to enzymes so far.Breastfeeding defenetly helped. Stpping was

> > really bad..

> > Bea

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Have you tried the baby food prunes? I couldn't get any of my kids to

drink prune juice, but they all ate up the baby food prunes like they

were candy. Gerber has one that's all prunes (smallest size jars),

and I think Earth's Best has one that's prunes and oatmeal. Also,

some people strongly recommend pomegranate juice. My 16 month old

doesn't like it, but my three year old does. (Maybe because juice is

a rarity in his life...)

Oh, and avocados! My daughter especially LOVED them, and I think

those good fats kept it all moving through the pipes. Also, they have

a lot more vitamins than typical baby choices, so my kids had them a

lot.

Good luck!

[Guest guest]

I wean my babies on their fifth birthday whether they need it or not. My

son regressed after that.

G.

Jeanne wrote:

> I'd be interested to find out if there are many other people whose

> kids have

> had late regressions after stopping breastfeeding.