Guest guest Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Hi there, Yes, we have been using NDF+ since September. Lots of improvements,very subtle. Improved speech, awareness, less enzymes required in our case. No tests done but I definately feel we are removing metals of some sort. Think we will see huge improvements as the months go by. Now up to four drops a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 It is an algae used to assist chelation naturally. It is very very strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 What is NDF? Thank you, Thorpeheather@... wrote: Hi there, Yes, we have been using NDF+ since September. Lots of improvements,very subtle. Improved speech, awareness, less enzymes required in our case. No tests done but I definately feel we are removing metals of some sort. Think we will see huge improvements as the months go by. Now up to four drops a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 There are two kinds: NDF and NDF Plus. NDF Plus is less strong, and is the one most people with ASD kids are using, I believe. My son has been taking it since last summer. Don't know if it's helping, but he tolerates it very easily, and seems to be doing well. Terri At 04:15 PM 2/14/2006, you wrote: >It is an algae used to assist chelation naturally. It is very very strong. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 My son is a large eight years old. I note that you have upped the drops quite quickly if you only started in January however, if you have not seen any negative results then obviously so far, its an okay dose for your son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Thanks for the info. How old is your son? Mine is 14 yrs old and I just increase to 5 drops per day, we started in mid-January. I wanted to know if anyone else was using it and what were the results. I am not sure about the dose for a boy my son's age. > > Hi there, > > Yes, we have been using NDF+ since September. Lots of improvements,very > subtle. Improved speech, awareness, less enzymes required in our case. No tests > done but I definately feel we are removing metals of some sort. Think we > will see huge improvements as the months go by. Now up to four drops a day. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 my son will be 9 yrs old in april. he weighs 80 lbs. i have just upped ndf plus from 4 to 6 drops. supposed to be daily, however, i miss some days. vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Since he is 14 yrs old I started with 3 drops, and then move to 4 until this week when I upped it to 5. I am not sure exactly what the max will be. Because of his age I usually go with the adult version of therapies. > > My son is a large eight years old. > > I note that you have upped the drops quite quickly if you only started in > January however, if you have not seen any negative results then obviously so > far, its an okay dose for your son. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 I like to know from anyone who can help i am going to be soon going to winston salem to pick up a bottle of NDF Plus from Dr. Hines, and my son medical doctor i will be meeting on the 27th, to do some of the testing that can be done in his office and the rest he will make a referral,not sure what tests he can do in his office. but will find out. but I know NDF Plus only removes mercury, i had brought up new product of chelate called Bio chelate from new beginnings where she told me where to get justin supplements for a 3 month supply under 100's. and world health mall. where I assume where her patients get their supplements she told me to try sleep is gold and ADD-up (hyperactivity) but sleep is gold is to help him sleep. and give him zinc since he is stimming and have repetitive behavior has increased. but has anyone had their child tested for mercury. before using NDF Plus. I did ask her if i cannot find anyone who will test him and if medicade does not cover it. could i still use the NDF Plus. if he hasn't been tested. she told me yes. I am looking forward to get started on it. Bio-chelate thru new beginnings she said well since they have it and selling it, it should be fine to use if i wanted too. bio chelate removes more than just mercury. if anyone want to look into and read more about it. safe to use. I will appreciate anyone to reply back. also i am very hesitant to use kirkman products due to splenda ingredients in his supplements and products . which splenda is very bad for our kids not including aspartame. which are the same i believe. looking forward from hearing from you all. take care.AnnetteAnnetteFrom: vickila1@... [mailto: vickila1@...]To: @...: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 16:51:32 ESTSubject: Re: Is anyone using NDF?my son will be 9 yrs old in april. he weighs 80 lbs. i have just upped ndf plus from 4 to 6 drops. supposed to be daily, however, i miss some days.vicki[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 There is a support group for NDF users, a group: BioRaynaturaldetox/ We used this product with good result and no negatives. There are files on the support group on how to start and use the NDF. I would be most comfortable starting with this one before you are well-supplemented. All the other chelators are going to remove things you need with them, like zinc and calcium, so you want to make sure your child is adequately supported on those fronts before you start a chelator like EDTA (in the biochelate). That said, the biochelate has a fairly low dose, so it's safety would be better. There is no very good test for mercury toxicity directly (unless you have had a recent large exposure). In general, some people use a hair test ($99, not covered by insurance or medicaid - you can google " counting rules hair test " to see how to interpret a hair test. There are some indicators on an organic acid test of mercury toxicity too. Once using a chelator, people also often use a urine toxic screen to see if they are excreting anything (also $99, I'm not sure in which cases it will be covered). You can also do a blood test for mercury, but this will not pick up mercury in tissue (or lead, for that matter). I would get the basics done first. Good supplementation, trying to get the gut in better shape, etc., before you start focusing on chelation. Often these steps will improve symptoms drastically and dramatically. Hopefully your doctor will be able to help you come up with a plan for supplementation. Good luck! Judy From: vickila1@... [mailto: vickila1@...]@...: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 16:51:32 ESTSubject: Re: Is anyone using NDF?my son will be 9 yrs old in april. he weighs 80 lbs. i have just upped ndf plus from 4 to 6 drops. supposed > to be daily, however, i miss some days.vicki[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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