Re: Dana, and anyone with diet advice, please.

[Guest guest]

Hi Amber,

There is no way of knowing exactly how long it is going to take. Is he having

reactions?

I am back and have been trying to call you. You must be online. Ill try later.

Be well.

Love,

Haleh

--- kennetheriklucy <eislerfamily@...> wrote:

> I am so upset- there are many reasons, but not to bore you, I'll try

> and sum them up as quick as I can.

> First off, what I need is a fellow mom who understands the importance

> of the diet that I try so hard to get to follow.

> I am so tired of no-nothing people thinking that if he eats something

> that he shouldn't, it's no big deal. That's like saying that all the

> hard work and energy that I put into his food every second of my day-

> all my efforts is no big deal, that it means nothing.

> Another thing that I am so tired of, my husband is guilty of this as

> well, is everyone looking at what is eating, and because it's

> not loaded with sugar, they all say, " Poor baby, having to eat such

> horrible food, and not getting anything good that he likes. "

> I spend hours and hours thinking up good treats for him that he

> likes, by the way. Instead of people looking at what he's eating, and

> seeing how creative it is, and seeing how much he is liking eating

> it, they look at what it isn't.

> My problem (finally) my husband took my boys to my parents cabin last

> Thursday night, and they'll get home tomorrow night. I spent 3 days

> cooking and baking and portioning out supplements, so that would

> have all of his food ready. My husband and boys went straight to my

> moms house on Thursday night, and stayed the night, and went to their

> lake the next night. He told my mom to leave all of his food in the

> coolers, but of course, she took it out and put it in her freezer.

> The next day, instead of packing the muffins that I made for ,

> she grabbed the wrong ones and sent ones that she had in her freezer

> (I found out that they were muffins from Tim Horton's) So, for the

> last 5 days, 's been eating Tim Horton's muffins!!! At least one

> a day!! That's gluten, and sugar (that he's not aloud) and who knows

> what else. I am so upset.

> How long will it take all that crap to get out of his system? The

> problem is, it wasn't just one slip- he's been eating them all week.

> Thanks for letting me vent. It's so frustrating, and I need to talk

> to people who will understand me.

> Thanks,

> Amber.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Haleh,

I haven't been around him, but from what Vaughn has said, he's whiny, and

sleeping even more horribly than normal.

I'll get off of the computer now. Me and Lucy might be out for a bit, but

won't be long, and I'll stay off of the computer.

I'll talk to you soon.

Amber.

On 5/23/06, haleh niazmand <halniaz@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Amber,

> There is no way of knowing exactly how long it is going to take. Is he

> having

> reactions?

> I am back and have been trying to call you. You must be online. Ill try

> later.

> Be well.

> Love,

>

> Haleh

>

>

> --- kennetheriklucy <eislerfamily@...> wrote:

>

> > I am so upset- there are many reasons, but not to bore you, I'll try

> > and sum them up as quick as I can.

> > First off, what I need is a fellow mom who understands the importance

> > of the diet that I try so hard to get to follow.

> > I am so tired of no-nothing people thinking that if he eats something

> > that he shouldn't, it's no big deal. That's like saying that all the

> > hard work and energy that I put into his food every second of my day-

> > all my efforts is no big deal, that it means nothing.

> > Another thing that I am so tired of, my husband is guilty of this as

> > well, is everyone looking at what is eating, and because it's

> > not loaded with sugar, they all say, " Poor baby, having to eat such

> > horrible food, and not getting anything good that he likes. "

> > I spend hours and hours thinking up good treats for him that he

> > likes, by the way. Instead of people looking at what he's eating, and

> > seeing how creative it is, and seeing how much he is liking eating

> > it, they look at what it isn't.

> > My problem (finally) my husband took my boys to my parents cabin last

> > Thursday night, and they'll get home tomorrow night. I spent 3 days

> > cooking and baking and portioning out supplements, so that would

> > have all of his food ready. My husband and boys went straight to my

> > moms house on Thursday night, and stayed the night, and went to their

> > lake the next night. He told my mom to leave all of his food in the

> > coolers, but of course, she took it out and put it in her freezer.

> > The next day, instead of packing the muffins that I made for ,

> > she grabbed the wrong ones and sent ones that she had in her freezer

> > (I found out that they were muffins from Tim Horton's) So, for the

> > last 5 days, 's been eating Tim Horton's muffins!!! At least one

> > a day!! That's gluten, and sugar (that he's not aloud) and who knows

> > what else. I am so upset.

> > How long will it take all that crap to get out of his system? The

> > problem is, it wasn't just one slip- he's been eating them all week.

> > Thanks for letting me vent. It's so frustrating, and I need to talk

> > to people who will understand me.

> > Thanks,

> > Amber.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am so sorry. Incredibly sorry. Suffice to say, been there, done that. What it

finally took, for me to get people on board and see how serious I was, was for

me to not allow them near ph. My in-laws went almost a year without seeing

my son, my husband (called to active duty for a year due to 9/11) didn't see

him, we didn't see friends, didn't go to holiday gatherings, didn't go to

school, didn't go much of anywhere. So much healing took place in that year,

that relatives, friends, spouse, all jump through hoops to see that ph does

not get any kind of infraction now. My in-laws, they are the bane of my

existence. I pretty much don't let them see my son, unless I'm present. I became

Super Bitch, sorry for the language guys. But, when you've got a kid, on the

toilet, with the runs and puking his little 3 yr. old guts out, because his

grandmother gave him cookies he shouldn't have had, and acts like it's no big

deal. Well, it is a big deal. I've been called neurotic, obsessive,

over-protective, and many things I'm sure I'm not even aware of. To say we are

frustrated is an understatement. We are heartsick, torn, tired, and have enough

balls in the air without someone adding another. Go in the garage and yell, grab

a bat or golf club and wrap it around your least favorite bush in the backyard.

Get all your anger out before your munchkin gets home, because you do not want

him to feel your anger. He ate it because he was told he could. If your husband

continues to be so unobservant, I would find a therapist, who will allow you to

vent, without medicating you. You've got to get it out, constructively, so you

can keep going. That year, alone, with my son, was the hardest and best year of

my life. I went to church twice a day sometimes, just sat in the back pews and

sometimes I cried. I put Jojo in the baby jogger and went running, bought him

all the things I thought he needed, trampoline, games, books for me to read.

Just about went broke. Didn't care. I was doing what I needed to do. There is

another side to this. You will get there. But that is the crux of the matter,

You, you will get there, and you'll bring your kid with you. Your husband, other

kids, other family members, friends, they'll either go along for the ride or

they'll meet you on the other side. If you are lucky, if you are blessed, your

spouse, parent, or friend will carry you through a particularly rough moment.

There is a plaque perched on my kitchen shelf by my sink, it says " Courage is

not always a lion's roar, sometimes it is the heart at the end of the day saying

I will try again tomorrow " . If no one else has told you today, I'll tell you, I

think you are Terrific. You keep going, the reward is beyond compare.

Dana, and anyone with diet advice, please.

I am so upset- there are many reasons, but not to bore you, I'll try

and sum them up as quick as I can.

First off, what I need is a fellow mom who understands the importance

of the diet that I try so hard to get to follow.

I am so tired of no-nothing people thinking that if he eats something

that he shouldn't, it's no big deal. That's like saying that all the

hard work and energy that I put into his food every second of my day-

all my efforts is no big deal, that it means nothing.

Another thing that I am so tired of, my husband is guilty of this as

well, is everyone looking at what is eating, and because it's

not loaded with sugar, they all say, " Poor baby, having to eat such

horrible food, and not getting anything good that he likes. "

I spend hours and hours thinking up good treats for him that he

likes, by the way. Instead of people looking at what he's eating, and

seeing how creative it is, and seeing how much he is liking eating

it, they look at what it isn't.

My problem (finally) my husband took my boys to my parents cabin last

Thursday night, and they'll get home tomorrow night. I spent 3 days

cooking and baking and portioning out supplements, so that would

have all of his food ready. My husband and boys went straight to my

moms house on Thursday night, and stayed the night, and went to their

lake the next night. He told my mom to leave all of his food in the

coolers, but of course, she took it out and put it in her freezer.

The next day, instead of packing the muffins that I made for ,

she grabbed the wrong ones and sent ones that she had in her freezer

(I found out that they were muffins from Tim Horton's) So, for the

last 5 days, 's been eating Tim Horton's muffins!!! At least one

a day!! That's gluten, and sugar (that he's not aloud) and who knows

what else. I am so upset.

How long will it take all that crap to get out of his system? The

problem is, it wasn't just one slip- he's been eating them all week.

Thanks for letting me vent. It's so frustrating, and I need to talk

to people who will understand me.

Thanks,

Amber.

[Guest guest]

> I am so tired of no-nothing people thinking that if he eats something

> that he shouldn't, it's no big deal.

If at all possible, stay away from these people.

> I spend hours and hours thinking up good treats for him that he

> likes, by the way. Instead of people looking at what he's eating, and

> seeing how creative it is, and seeing how much he is liking eating

> it, they look at what it isn't.

For most people in today's society, life revolves quite a bit around food.

> (I found out that they were muffins from Tim Horton's) So, for the

> last 5 days, 's been eating Tim Horton's muffins!!! At least one

> a day!! That's gluten, and sugar (that he's not aloud) and who knows

> what else. I am so upset.

> How long will it take all that crap to get out of his system?

Giving Pepcid AC usually helps with the symptoms.

If his diet has been " clean " for a while, it usually does not take

more than a few days for most people to clear out the offending food.

Has his changed behavior done anything to convince your husband or

mother that your son really does require this diet? Sometimes, being

with the child for extended periods of time after a food issue like

this, is just what is required for some people to learn that.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Thank you. The problem is that people are so ignorant about

how badly these kids are affected by certain foods. I can't even

take a trip anywhere without somebody trying to stuff candy in my

kids' mouths. When I tell people " no thank you " , they argue with

me, or they play all sorts of head games like looking at me like I'm

insane or being really rude and condescending to me, etc. I'm used

to this kind of stuff because I've been keeping myself to various

diets for years.

I think you ought to call up your mom and chew her out

thoroughly for giving food that wasn't on his diet. And be

sure and explain in great detail what's going to happen to him

because he ate gluten and sugar, and why you think that this special

diet is going to help him get over his autism. It will probably

take a month for him to recover! My kids are doing better now, but

I know that just one month ago, if they ate any sugar, they'd be

hyper, weepy, tantrum-y and aggressive for a week. And that's just

after one serving of sugar.

--

>

> I am so upset- there are many reasons, but not to bore you, I'll

try

> and sum them up as quick as I can.

> First off, what I need is a fellow mom who understands the

importance

> of the diet that I try so hard to get to follow.

> I am so tired of no-nothing people thinking that if he eats

something

> that he shouldn't, it's no big deal. That's like saying that all

the

> hard work and energy that I put into his food every second of my

day-

> all my efforts is no big deal, that it means nothing.

> Another thing that I am so tired of, my husband is guilty of this

as

> well, is everyone looking at what is eating, and because it's

> not loaded with sugar, they all say, " Poor baby, having to eat

such

> horrible food, and not getting anything good that he likes. "

> I spend hours and hours thinking up good treats for him that he

> likes, by the way. Instead of people looking at what he's eating,

and

> seeing how creative it is, and seeing how much he is liking eating

> it, they look at what it isn't.

> My problem (finally) my husband took my boys to my parents cabin

last

> Thursday night, and they'll get home tomorrow night. I spent 3

days

> cooking and baking and portioning out supplements, so that

would

> have all of his food ready. My husband and boys went straight to

my

> moms house on Thursday night, and stayed the night, and went to

their

> lake the next night. He told my mom to leave all of his food in

the

> coolers, but of course, she took it out and put it in her freezer.

> The next day, instead of packing the muffins that I made for ,

> she grabbed the wrong ones and sent ones that she had in her

freezer

> (I found out that they were muffins from Tim Horton's) So, for the

> last 5 days, 's been eating Tim Horton's muffins!!! At least

one

> a day!! That's gluten, and sugar (that he's not aloud) and who

knows

> what else. I am so upset.

> How long will it take all that crap to get out of his system? The

> problem is, it wasn't just one slip- he's been eating them all

week.

> Thanks for letting me vent. It's so frustrating, and I need to

talk

> to people who will understand me.

> Thanks,

> Amber.

>

[Guest guest]

I have been dealing with this too (people not taking our food needs

seriously, thinking I am making it all up--as if a mother would

choose to make her life so complicated! For fun? To make life more

interesting?)

My son is not on the " autistic spectrum " except that I think

the " spectrum " should begin somewhere much earlier and is more like

a toxicity spectrum, where ASD is the point at which the symptoms

are indisputable, but where we stand everyone is free to say nothing

we're observing is real, has any basis in reality, is something to

treat, etc. Were it not for all the research and trial and error

going on with parents of children with ASD, he would have had to

suffer much more.

But I really began to question my own sanity at one point, even

though my husband and I both observed subtle behaviors we couldn't

understand--eye rolling, coinciding with regression in his language

skills (why did they come and go?), walking on tiptoes or refusing

to walk (now he can tell us his knees hurt). Obvious food

intolerances that doctors would not acknowledge. Somehow the

symptoms were not legitimate or connnected to anything real?

Eczema, hives, bright red cheeks, asthma, etc. And then when I tell

friends and family that it all came together when I started

researching autism, they think I'm really a screwball because they

can't understand or don't want to believe that there is an overlap.

And because we are neither here nor there, I REALLY feel that I have

no one to connect with. No one to discuss this with in a sane and

rational way.

And then, I watch other friends suffering with their children's

mysterious health problems (that their doctors will not legitimize)

and I try to offer help/insight but they are afraid to accept the

help because they would rather believe there is nothing really

wrong, as they are being told.

I could go on . . .

>

> I am so sorry. Incredibly sorry. Suffice to say, been there, done

that. What it finally took, for me to get people on board and see

how serious I was, was for me to not allow them near ph. My in-

laws went almost a year without seeing my son, my husband (called to

active duty for a year due to 9/11) didn't see him, we didn't see

friends, didn't go to holiday gatherings, didn't go to school,

didn't go much of anywhere. So much healing took place in that year,

that relatives, friends, spouse, all jump through hoops to see that

ph does not get any kind of infraction now. My in-laws, they are

the bane of my existence. I pretty much don't let them see my son,

unless I'm present. I became Super Bitch, sorry for the language

guys. But, when you've got a kid, on the toilet, with the runs and

puking his little 3 yr. old guts out, because his grandmother gave

him cookies he shouldn't have had, and acts like it's no big deal.

Well, it is a big deal. I've been called neurotic, obsessive, over-

protective, and many things I'm sure I'm not even aware of. To say

we are frustrated is an understatement. We are heartsick, torn,

tired, and have enough balls in the air without someone adding

another. Go in the garage and yell, grab a bat or golf club and wrap

it around your least favorite bush in the backyard. Get all your

anger out before your munchkin gets home, because you do not want

him to feel your anger. He ate it because he was told he could. If

your husband continues to be so unobservant, I would find a

therapist, who will allow you to vent, without medicating you.

You've got to get it out, constructively, so you can keep going.

That year, alone, with my son, was the hardest and best year of my

life. I went to church twice a day sometimes, just sat in the back

pews and sometimes I cried. I put Jojo in the baby jogger and went

running, bought him all the things I thought he needed, trampoline,

games, books for me to read. Just about went broke. Didn't care. I

was doing what I needed to do. There is another side to this. You

will get there. But that is the crux of the matter, You, you will

get there, and you'll bring your kid with you. Your husband, other

kids, other family members, friends, they'll either go along for the

ride or they'll meet you on the other side. If you are lucky, if you

are blessed, your spouse, parent, or friend will carry you through a

particularly rough moment. There is a plaque perched on my kitchen

shelf by my sink, it says " Courage is not always a lion's roar,

sometimes it is the heart at the end of the day saying I will try

again tomorrow " . If no one else has told you today, I'll tell you,

I think you are Terrific. You keep going, the reward is beyond

compare.

> Dana, and anyone with diet advice, please.

>

>

> I am so upset- there are many reasons, but not to bore you, I'll

try

> and sum them up as quick as I can.

> First off, what I need is a fellow mom who understands the

importance

> of the diet that I try so hard to get to follow.

> I am so tired of no-nothing people thinking that if he eats

something

> that he shouldn't, it's no big deal. That's like saying that all

the

> hard work and energy that I put into his food every second of my

day-

> all my efforts is no big deal, that it means nothing.

> Another thing that I am so tired of, my husband is guilty of

this as

> well, is everyone looking at what is eating, and because

it's

> not loaded with sugar, they all say, " Poor baby, having to eat

such

> horrible food, and not getting anything good that he likes. "

> I spend hours and hours thinking up good treats for him that he

> likes, by the way. Instead of people looking at what he's

eating, and

> seeing how creative it is, and seeing how much he is liking

eating

> it, they look at what it isn't.

> My problem (finally) my husband took my boys to my parents cabin

last

> Thursday night, and they'll get home tomorrow night. I spent 3

days

> cooking and baking and portioning out supplements, so that

would

> have all of his food ready. My husband and boys went straight to

my

> moms house on Thursday night, and stayed the night, and went to

their

> lake the next night. He told my mom to leave all of his food in

the

> coolers, but of course, she took it out and put it in her

freezer.

> The next day, instead of packing the muffins that I made for

,

> she grabbed the wrong ones and sent ones that she had in her

freezer

> (I found out that they were muffins from Tim Horton's) So, for

the

> last 5 days, 's been eating Tim Horton's muffins!!! At least

one

> a day!! That's gluten, and sugar (that he's not aloud) and who

knows

> what else. I am so upset.

> How long will it take all that crap to get out of his system?

The

> problem is, it wasn't just one slip- he's been eating them all

week.

> Thanks for letting me vent. It's so frustrating, and I need to

talk

> to people who will understand me.

> Thanks,

> Amber.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm glad you found this group. As hard as it is, if people want to believe the

earth is flat, that is their choice. It is nice though to correspond with others

that know the earth is round. My daughter is having issues, poor child

can't tolerate sugar at all. She has also turned mean. It's not a character

issue, she is only 17 mo. It is a physical well being issue. That DTaP vaccine

really messed her up. I think she was borderline and the vaccine just sort of

pushed her closer to the edge. But, you wouldn't believe all the people,

including my mother, who insist that this is just the terrible two's early.

Which, they don't remember, is exactly what they said about ph. She's not

lost language, or eye contact, no meltdowns yet or stimming. But, I see the

sleep pattern disruptions and the bowel issues, and I wait. I give the

supplements, watch her diet, I'm about to buy the Body Ecology book by Donna

Gates. But I'm heartsick. I did this, I knew what the odds were before I got

pregnant, and I did this anyway. I Thank God for enzymes and probiotics, and the

knowledge I have already. I'm sorry you don't have the legitimacy an official

diagnosis would give your observations. I wonder, how many years away are we

from " real " answers. I'm going back to school this fall to start digging on my

own. I graduated from UC in 97 as an English major. I will return to

school this fall, and my intentions are to get into their Food Science program,

specifically micro-biology and biochemistry. I'm just sick and tired of waiting.

My research has taken me to a point that without the background education, I

can't make full sense or use of what I'm reading. It's all too technical now.

The studies, the labs, the new theories, and then there is the explosion of

information with Genomics. But what do they do with all this info? It's all

coming so fast, who does the interpretation, and what about the real life

applications? You give me a few years and I'll get back to you with a real and

scientific explanation for your child's eczema. No more creams or lotions, no

more experimenting with diets. Real answers, " avoid this .... and do this.... "

and the eczema will clear up. Backed up by labs that will verify what you see. I

have to trust in God that it will be in time to help my babies.

Dana, and anyone with diet advice, please.

>

>

> I am so upset- there are many reasons, but not to bore you, I'll

try

> and sum them up as quick as I can.

> First off, what I need is a fellow mom who understands the

importance

> of the diet that I try so hard to get to follow.

> I am so tired of no-nothing people thinking that if he eats

something

> that he shouldn't, it's no big deal. That's like saying that all

the

> hard work and energy that I put into his food every second of my

day-

> all my efforts is no big deal, that it means nothing.

> Another thing that I am so tired of, my husband is guilty of

this as

> well, is everyone looking at what is eating, and because

it's

> not loaded with sugar, they all say, " Poor baby, having to eat

such

> horrible food, and not getting anything good that he likes. "

> I spend hours and hours thinking up good treats for him that he

> likes, by the way. Instead of people looking at what he's

eating, and

> seeing how creative it is, and seeing how much he is liking

eating

> it, they look at what it isn't.

> My problem (finally) my husband took my boys to my parents cabin

last

> Thursday night, and they'll get home tomorrow night. I spent 3

days

> cooking and baking and portioning out supplements, so that

would

> have all of his food ready. My husband and boys went straight to

my

> moms house on Thursday night, and stayed the night, and went to

their

> lake the next night. He told my mom to leave all of his food in

the

> coolers, but of course, she took it out and put it in her

freezer.

> The next day, instead of packing the muffins that I made for

,

> she grabbed the wrong ones and sent ones that she had in her

freezer

> (I found out that they were muffins from Tim Horton's) So, for

the

> last 5 days, 's been eating Tim Horton's muffins!!! At least

one

> a day!! That's gluten, and sugar (that he's not aloud) and who

knows

> what else. I am so upset.

> How long will it take all that crap to get out of his system?

The

> problem is, it wasn't just one slip- he's been eating them all

week.

> Thanks for letting me vent. It's so frustrating, and I need to

talk

> to people who will understand me.

> Thanks,

> Amber.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

:

Sorry you are still struggling a little. Please don't beat yourself up.

You didn't have much of a choice when it came to that shot.

I'm assuming you are taking her GFCF(SF) for a little while. If you want us

to brainstorm other supplements with you I know that I, for one, would be

happy to try and help.

Have you considered a homeopathic nosode for DTaP?

Take care,

Josie

Re: Dana, and anyone with diet advice, please.

I'm glad you found this group. As hard as it is, if people want to believe

the earth is flat, that is their choice. It is nice though to correspond

with others that know the earth is round. My daughter is having

issues, poor child can't tolerate sugar at all. She has also turned mean.

It's not a character issue, she is only 17 mo. It is a physical well being

issue. That DTaP vaccine really messed her up. I think she was borderline

and the vaccine just sort of pushed her closer to the edge. But, you

wouldn't believe all the people, including my mother, who insist that this

is just the terrible two's early. Which, they don't remember, is exactly

what they said about ph. She's not lost language, or eye contact, no

meltdowns yet or stimming. But, I see the sleep pattern disruptions and the

bowel issues, and I wait. I give the supplements, watch her diet, I'm about

to buy the Body Ecology book by Donna Gates. But I'm heartsick. I did this,

I knew what the odds were before I got pregnant, and I did this anyway. I

Thank God for enzymes and probiotics, and the knowledge I have already. I'm

sorry you don't have the legitimacy an official diagnosis would give your

observations. I wonder, how many years away are we from " real " answers. I'm

going back to school this fall to start digging on my own. I graduated from

UC in 97 as an English major. I will return to school this fall, and

my intentions are to get into their Food Science program, specifically

micro-biology and biochemistry. I'm just sick and tired of waiting. My

research has taken me to a point that without the background education, I

can't make full sense or use of what I'm reading. It's all too technical

now. The studies, the labs, the new theories, and then there is the

explosion of information with Genomics. But what do they do with all this

info? It's all coming so fast, who does the interpretation, and what about

the real life applications? You give me a few years and I'll get back to you

with a real and scientific explanation for your child's eczema. No more

creams or lotions, no more experimenting with diets. Real answers, " avoid

this .... and do this.... " and the eczema will clear up. Backed up by labs

that will verify what you see. I have to trust in God that it will be in

time to help my babies.

Dana, and anyone with diet advice, please.

>

>

> I am so upset- there are many reasons, but not to bore you, I'll

try

> and sum them up as quick as I can.

> First off, what I need is a fellow mom who understands the

importance

> of the diet that I try so hard to get to follow.

> I am so tired of no-nothing people thinking that if he eats

something

> that he shouldn't, it's no big deal. That's like saying that all

the

> hard work and energy that I put into his food every second of my

day-

> all my efforts is no big deal, that it means nothing.

> Another thing that I am so tired of, my husband is guilty of

this as

> well, is everyone looking at what is eating, and because

it's

> not loaded with sugar, they all say, " Poor baby, having to eat

such

> horrible food, and not getting anything good that he likes. "

> I spend hours and hours thinking up good treats for him that he

> likes, by the way. Instead of people looking at what he's

eating, and

> seeing how creative it is, and seeing how much he is liking

eating

> it, they look at what it isn't.

> My problem (finally) my husband took my boys to my parents cabin

last

> Thursday night, and they'll get home tomorrow night. I spent 3

days

> cooking and baking and portioning out supplements, so that

would

> have all of his food ready. My husband and boys went straight to

my

> moms house on Thursday night, and stayed the night, and went to

their

> lake the next night. He told my mom to leave all of his food in

the

> coolers, but of course, she took it out and put it in her

freezer.

> The next day, instead of packing the muffins that I made for

,

> she grabbed the wrong ones and sent ones that she had in her

freezer

> (I found out that they were muffins from Tim Horton's) So, for

the

> last 5 days, 's been eating Tim Horton's muffins!!! At least

one

> a day!! That's gluten, and sugar (that he's not aloud) and who

knows

> what else. I am so upset.

> How long will it take all that crap to get out of his system?

The

> problem is, it wasn't just one slip- he's been eating them all

week.

> Thanks for letting me vent. It's so frustrating, and I need to

talk

> to people who will understand me.

> Thanks,

> Amber.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank You. Actually, I was considering using the Ojibwa Tea, but I'm not sure if

she's too young or not. I'll have to call .

Dana, and anyone with diet advice, please.

>

>

> I am so upset- there are many reasons, but not to bore you, I'll

try

> and sum them up as quick as I can.

> First off, what I need is a fellow mom who understands the

importance

> of the diet that I try so hard to get to follow.

> I am so tired of no-nothing people thinking that if he eats

something

> that he shouldn't, it's no big deal. That's like saying that all

the

> hard work and energy that I put into his food every second of my

day-

> all my efforts is no big deal, that it means nothing.

> Another thing that I am so tired of, my husband is guilty of

this as

> well, is everyone looking at what is eating, and because

it's

> not loaded with sugar, they all say, " Poor baby, having to eat

such

> horrible food, and not getting anything good that he likes. "

> I spend hours and hours thinking up good treats for him that he

> likes, by the way. Instead of people looking at what he's

eating, and

> seeing how creative it is, and seeing how much he is liking

eating

> it, they look at what it isn't.

> My problem (finally) my husband took my boys to my parents cabin

last

> Thursday night, and they'll get home tomorrow night. I spent 3

days

> cooking and baking and portioning out supplements, so that

would

> have all of his food ready. My husband and boys went straight to

my

> moms house on Thursday night, and stayed the night, and went to

their

> lake the next night. He told my mom to leave all of his food in

the

> coolers, but of course, she took it out and put it in her

freezer.

> The next day, instead of packing the muffins that I made for

,

> she grabbed the wrong ones and sent ones that she had in her

freezer

> (I found out that they were muffins from Tim Horton's) So, for

the

> last 5 days, 's been eating Tim Horton's muffins!!! At least

one

> a day!! That's gluten, and sugar (that he's not aloud) and who

knows

> what else. I am so upset.

> How long will it take all that crap to get out of his system?

The

> problem is, it wasn't just one slip- he's been eating them all

week.

> Thanks for letting me vent. It's so frustrating, and I need to

talk

> to people who will understand me.

> Thanks,

> Amber.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

We use the Ojibwa Tea. It is the best stuff!!!!!!! Great detox

tea. We saw some huge improvements in our little gal after she

started it.

Sheresa

> >

> > I am so sorry. Incredibly sorry. Suffice to say, been there,

done

> that. What it finally took, for me to get people on board and

see

> how serious I was, was for me to not allow them near ph. My

in-

> laws went almost a year without seeing my son, my husband

(called to

> active duty for a year due to 9/11) didn't see him, we didn't

see

> friends, didn't go to holiday gatherings, didn't go to school,

> didn't go much of anywhere. So much healing took place in that

year,

> that relatives, friends, spouse, all jump through hoops to see

that

> ph does not get any kind of infraction now. My in-laws,

they are

> the bane of my existence. I pretty much don't let them see my

son,

> unless I'm present. I became Super Bitch, sorry for the

language

> guys. But, when you've got a kid, on the toilet, with the runs

and

> puking his little 3 yr. old guts out, because his grandmother

gave

> him cookies he shouldn't have had, and acts like it's no big

deal.

> Well, it is a big deal. I've been called neurotic, obsessive,

over-

> protective, and many things I'm sure I'm not even aware of. To

say

> we are frustrated is an understatement. We are heartsick, torn,

> tired, and have enough balls in the air without someone adding

> another. Go in the garage and yell, grab a bat or golf club and

wrap

> it around your least favorite bush in the backyard. Get all

your

> anger out before your munchkin gets home, because you do not

want

> him to feel your anger. He ate it because he was told he could.

If

> your husband continues to be so unobservant, I would find a

> therapist, who will allow you to vent, without medicating you.

> You've got to get it out, constructively, so you can keep

going.

> That year, alone, with my son, was the hardest and best year of

my

> life. I went to church twice a day sometimes, just sat in the

back

> pews and sometimes I cried. I put Jojo in the baby jogger and

went

> running, bought him all the things I thought he needed,

trampoline,

> games, books for me to read. Just about went broke. Didn't

care. I

> was doing what I needed to do. There is another side to this.

You

> will get there. But that is the crux of the matter, You, you

will

> get there, and you'll bring your kid with you. Your husband,

other

> kids, other family members, friends, they'll either go along

for the

> ride or they'll meet you on the other side. If you are lucky,

if you

> are blessed, your spouse, parent, or friend will carry you

through a

> particularly rough moment. There is a plaque perched on my

kitchen

> shelf by my sink, it says " Courage is not always a lion's roar,

> sometimes it is the heart at the end of the day saying I will

try

> again tomorrow " . If no one else has told you today, I'll tell

you,

> I think you are Terrific. You keep going, the reward is beyond

> compare.

> > Dana, and anyone with diet advice,

please.

> >

> >

> > I am so upset- there are many reasons, but not to bore you,

I'll

> try

> > and sum them up as quick as I can.

> > First off, what I need is a fellow mom who understands the

> importance

> > of the diet that I try so hard to get to follow.

> > I am so tired of no-nothing people thinking that if he eats

> something

> > that he shouldn't, it's no big deal. That's like saying

that all

> the

> > hard work and energy that I put into his food every second

of my

> day-

> > all my efforts is no big deal, that it means nothing.

> > Another thing that I am so tired of, my husband is guilty

of

> this as

> > well, is everyone looking at what is eating, and

because

> it's

> > not loaded with sugar, they all say, " Poor baby, having to

eat

> such

> > horrible food, and not getting anything good that he likes. "

> > I spend hours and hours thinking up good treats for him

that he

> > likes, by the way. Instead of people looking at what he's

> eating, and

> > seeing how creative it is, and seeing how much he is liking

> eating

> > it, they look at what it isn't.

> > My problem (finally) my husband took my boys to my parents

cabin

> last

> > Thursday night, and they'll get home tomorrow night. I

spent 3

> days

> > cooking and baking and portioning out supplements, so that

> would

> > have all of his food ready. My husband and boys went

straight to

> my

> > moms house on Thursday night, and stayed the night, and

went to

> their

> > lake the next night. He told my mom to leave all of his

food in

> the

> > coolers, but of course, she took it out and put it in her

> freezer.

> > The next day, instead of packing the muffins that I made

for

> ,

> > she grabbed the wrong ones and sent ones that she had in

her

> freezer

> > (I found out that they were muffins from Tim Horton's) So,

for

> the

> > last 5 days, 's been eating Tim Horton's muffins!!! At

least

> one

> > a day!! That's gluten, and sugar (that he's not aloud) and

who

> knows

> > what else. I am so upset.

> > How long will it take all that crap to get out of his

system?

> The

> > problem is, it wasn't just one slip- he's been eating them

all

> week.

> > Thanks for letting me vent. It's so frustrating, and I need

to

> talk

> > to people who will understand me.

> > Thanks,

> > Amber.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

What kind of improvements?

--

>

> We use the Ojibwa Tea. It is the best stuff!!!!!!! Great detox

> tea. We saw some huge improvements in our little gal after she

> started it.

>

[Guest guest]

> > >

> > > I am so sorry. Incredibly sorry. Suffice to say, been

there,

> done

> > that. What it finally took, for me to get people on board

and

> see

> > how serious I was, was for me to not allow them near ph.

My

> in-

> > laws went almost a year without seeing my son, my husband

> (called to

> > active duty for a year due to 9/11) didn't see him, we

didn't

> see

> > friends, didn't go to holiday gatherings, didn't go to

school,

> > didn't go much of anywhere. So much healing took place in

that

> year,

> > that relatives, friends, spouse, all jump through hoops to

see

> that

> > ph does not get any kind of infraction now. My in-laws,

> they are

> > the bane of my existence. I pretty much don't let them see

my

> son,

> > unless I'm present. I became Super Bitch, sorry for the

> language

> > guys. But, when you've got a kid, on the toilet, with the

runs

> and

> > puking his little 3 yr. old guts out, because his

grandmother

> gave

> > him cookies he shouldn't have had, and acts like it's no big

> deal.

> > Well, it is a big deal. I've been called neurotic,

obsessive,

> over-

> > protective, and many things I'm sure I'm not even aware of.

To

> say

> > we are frustrated is an understatement. We are heartsick,

torn,

> > tired, and have enough balls in the air without someone

adding

> > another. Go in the garage and yell, grab a bat or golf club

and

> wrap

> > it around your least favorite bush in the backyard. Get all

> your

> > anger out before your munchkin gets home, because you do not

> want

> > him to feel your anger. He ate it because he was told he

could.

> If

> > your husband continues to be so unobservant, I would find a

> > therapist, who will allow you to vent, without medicating

you.

> > You've got to get it out, constructively, so you can keep

> going.

> > That year, alone, with my son, was the hardest and best year

of

> my

> > life. I went to church twice a day sometimes, just sat in

the

> back

> > pews and sometimes I cried. I put Jojo in the baby jogger

and

> went

> > running, bought him all the things I thought he needed,

> trampoline,

> > games, books for me to read. Just about went broke. Didn't

> care. I

> > was doing what I needed to do. There is another side to

this.

> You

> > will get there. But that is the crux of the matter, You, you

> will

> > get there, and you'll bring your kid with you. Your husband,

> other

> > kids, other family members, friends, they'll either go along

> for the

> > ride or they'll meet you on the other side. If you are

lucky,

> if you

> > are blessed, your spouse, parent, or friend will carry you

> through a

> > particularly rough moment. There is a plaque perched on my

> kitchen

> > shelf by my sink, it says " Courage is not always a lion's

roar,

> > sometimes it is the heart at the end of the day saying I

will

> try

> > again tomorrow " . If no one else has told you today, I'll

tell

> you,

> > I think you are Terrific. You keep going, the reward is

beyond

> > compare.

> > > Dana, and anyone with diet advice,

> please.

> > >

> > >

> > > I am so upset- there are many reasons, but not to bore

you,

> I'll

> > try

> > > and sum them up as quick as I can.

> > > First off, what I need is a fellow mom who understands

the

> > importance

> > > of the diet that I try so hard to get to follow.

> > > I am so tired of no-nothing people thinking that if he

eats

> > something

> > > that he shouldn't, it's no big deal. That's like saying

> that all

> > the

> > > hard work and energy that I put into his food every

second

> of my

> > day-

> > > all my efforts is no big deal, that it means nothing.

> > > Another thing that I am so tired of, my husband is

guilty

> of

> > this as

> > > well, is everyone looking at what is eating, and

> because

> > it's

> > > not loaded with sugar, they all say, " Poor baby, having

to

> eat

> > such

> > > horrible food, and not getting anything good that he

likes. "

> > > I spend hours and hours thinking up good treats for him

> that he

> > > likes, by the way. Instead of people looking at what

he's

> > eating, and

> > > seeing how creative it is, and seeing how much he is

liking

> > eating

> > > it, they look at what it isn't.

> > > My problem (finally) my husband took my boys to my

parents

> cabin

> > last

> > > Thursday night, and they'll get home tomorrow night. I

> spent 3

> > days

> > > cooking and baking and portioning out supplements, so

that

>

> > would

> > > have all of his food ready. My husband and boys went

> straight to

> > my

> > > moms house on Thursday night, and stayed the night, and

> went to

> > their

> > > lake the next night. He told my mom to leave all of his

> food in

> > the

> > > coolers, but of course, she took it out and put it in

her

> > freezer.

> > > The next day, instead of packing the muffins that I made

> for

> > ,

> > > she grabbed the wrong ones and sent ones that she had in

> her

> > freezer

> > > (I found out that they were muffins from Tim Horton's)

So,

> for

> > the

> > > last 5 days, 's been eating Tim Horton's muffins!!!

At

> least

> > one

> > > a day!! That's gluten, and sugar (that he's not aloud)

and

> who

> > knows

> > > what else. I am so upset.

> > > How long will it take all that crap to get out of his

> system?

> > The

> > > problem is, it wasn't just one slip- he's been eating

them

> all

> > week.

> > > Thanks for letting me vent. It's so frustrating, and I

need

> to

> > talk

> > > to people who will understand me.

> > > Thanks,

> > > Amber.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Ojibwa tea is an essiac blend of herbs. There are many essiac blends on the

market, but in terms of finding a " clean product " , i.e. no pesticides, etc. the

Ojibwa tea brand is the best in my opinion. I used it for my son, it was the

first thing we did, after the diet. It was literally a God send. We ended up on

heavier hitting antivirals and whatnot after we found out what my son's specific

viral issues were, so we stopped giving him the Ojibwa tea. But now I'm

considering it for my daughter. She did her first stims tonight. She ran in

circles on the carpet. I'll be on the computer late tonight. Her next shot is

June 22, and I've got to get a grip on this thing.

Dana, and anyone with diet advice,

> please.

> > >

> > >

> > > I am so upset- there are many reasons, but not to bore

you,

> I'll

> > try

> > > and sum them up as quick as I can.

> > > First off, what I need is a fellow mom who understands

the

> > importance

> > > of the diet that I try so hard to get to follow.

> > > I am so tired of no-nothing people thinking that if he

eats

> > something

> > > that he shouldn't, it's no big deal. That's like saying

> that all

> > the

> > > hard work and energy that I put into his food every

second

> of my

> > day-

> > > all my efforts is no big deal, that it means nothing.

> > > Another thing that I am so tired of, my husband is

guilty

> of

> > this as

> > > well, is everyone looking at what is eating, and

> because

> > it's

> > > not loaded with sugar, they all say, " Poor baby, having

to

> eat

> > such

> > > horrible food, and not getting anything good that he

likes. "

> > > I spend hours and hours thinking up good treats for him

> that he

> > > likes, by the way. Instead of people looking at what

he's

> > eating, and

> > > seeing how creative it is, and seeing how much he is

liking

> > eating

> > > it, they look at what it isn't.

> > > My problem (finally) my husband took my boys to my

parents

> cabin

> > last

> > > Thursday night, and they'll get home tomorrow night. I

> spent 3

> > days

> > > cooking and baking and portioning out supplements, so

that

>

> > would

> > > have all of his food ready. My husband and boys went

> straight to

> > my

> > > moms house on Thursday night, and stayed the night, and

> went to

> > their

> > > lake the next night. He told my mom to leave all of his

> food in

> > the

> > > coolers, but of course, she took it out and put it in

her

> > freezer.

> > > The next day, instead of packing the muffins that I made

> for

> > ,

> > > she grabbed the wrong ones and sent ones that she had in

> her

> > freezer

> > > (I found out that they were muffins from Tim Horton's)

So,

> for

> > the

> > > last 5 days, 's been eating Tim Horton's muffins!!!

At

> least

> > one

> > > a day!! That's gluten, and sugar (that he's not aloud)

and

> who

> > knows

> > > what else. I am so upset.

> > > How long will it take all that crap to get out of his

> system?

> > The

> > > problem is, it wasn't just one slip- he's been eating

them

> all

> > week.

> > > Thanks for letting me vent. It's so frustrating, and I

need

> to

> > talk

> > > to people who will understand me.

> > > Thanks,

> > > Amber.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

>

> Ojibwa tea is an essiac blend of herbs. There are many essiac blends

on the market, but in terms of finding a " clean product " , i.e. no

pesticides, etc. the Ojibwa tea brand is the best in my opinion. I

used it for my son, it was the first thing we did, after the diet. It

was literally a God send. We ended up on heavier hitting antivirals

and whatnot after we found out what my son's specific viral issues

were, so we stopped giving him the Ojibwa tea. But now I'm considering

it for my daughter. She did her first stims tonight. She ran in

circles on the carpet. I'll be on the computer late tonight. Her next

shot is June 22, and I've got to get a grip on this thing.

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: ejdaa