Clostridia, activated charcoal, Lauricidin, probiotics, and pottty-training/ bacterial die-off reactions

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OK...my 5-yo son Evan had an ION Profile test which showed him to have an

overgrowth of some type of Clostridia species. So, our DAN! doctor recommended

the following: Lauricidin (which is currently at a minimal dose 1x/day, but

eventually will need to go higher and more frequent); Pro Bio Gold (even though

there is no yeast problem, it was recommended to make sure to maintain good

bacteria in the gut), currently at the dosage of 1/4 capsule at bedtime mixed

into applesauce; Culturelle (same reason as the Pro Bio Gold, although I think

it might also be for the Clostidia), which we have not yet started; activated

charcoal (to minimize die-off symptoms) up to 5 capsules per day (currently

giving 1/2 capsule in the AM, and 1/2 in the PM, to get him used to it; I have

been mixing it into applesauce with a good amount of honey to cover up the

taste, and he does eat it that way). Additionally, he is on the following

supplement regimen: DRN Basic Vitamin/Mineral Supplement 3/8

tsp 2x/day; Folinic Acid w/B12 (1/4 tsp 2x/day); Liquid Iron (1/4 tsp in AM;

1/8 tsp in PM); P5P (12.5 mg 2x/day); B-6 (25 mg 2x/day); Vitamin C (250 mg in

AM; 125 mg in PM, in addition to the total of over 500 mg that is in the DRN

supplement); CLO (2500 IU in AM; 1250 IU in PM); ProOmega supplement (1 gel cap

in AM; 1 gel cap in PM); Calcium supplement in the evening, if needed to

supplement dietary Calcium; Methyl B12 injections (every 3 nights); Adenosyl B12

injections, (also every 3 nights); Glutathione cream (2x/day); Naltrexone cream

(nightly). We are also supposed to start a custom amino acid supplement, which

we have at home, but haven't yet started. Additionally, Evan takes 1 capsule of

No-Fenol and 1 capsule of Enzyme Complete/DPPIV with each meal. Also, Evan

follows the GFCF diet, and is also egg-free, as per the IgG food panel. He is

not on a rotation diet, but we try to alternate between different types of milk

(soy, rice, almond, hazelnut) and grains

(corn, rice, quinoa), to avoid further food sensitivities and keep current mild

sensitivities " in check. " We are supposed to increase his Omega 6 with some

Borage Oil also, but haven't ordered that yet. I have also been trying to

alternate tomato sauce with olive oil for his GF pasta, due to him showing a

need for that type of fatty acid in his body. We use Smart Balance Omega GFCF

margarine, as well as Smart Balance Omega Peanut Butter for many/most of his

sandwiches. We are not currently chelating nor are we using hyperbaric oxygen

therapy or sound therapy as yet. He does get brushed at school, and we have

recently started doing it at home as well. He also wears a pressure vest at

school but does not wear one at home. He is in an ABA-based school, although I

do not think that is really what he gets...I think it is more like DTT combined

with ST, OT, SI, and PT, as well as music, art, and PE. His teacher recently

talked me into letting them use edible reinforcers

(GFCF popcorn, GFCF/Egg-free pretzels and GFCF/Egg-free chocolate cookies at

present).

Anyway...he also had recently trained himself to use the toilet when needing to

go #2. He did it all on his own 5 days after starting to take Kirkman's Enzyme

Complete/DPPIV. Recently, he appears to be backsliding...pretty much as soon as

we started the Lauricidin and Pro Bio Gold. At first it was diarrhea, but since

starting some activated charcoal, it is more formed. However, last night he

went in the bed (once he trained himself, he was also getting up out of bed to

get to the bathroom). This hasn't happened in a while (he trained himself in

late August). Is this backsliding a result of bacterial " die-off? " I don't

know how much slower I can go with the new supplements. The Lauricidin is at

ONE (1) pellet per day; the Pro Bio Gold is at 1/4 capsule/day; and the

activated charcoal is at 1/2 capsule 2x/day. And, eventually I'll have to

increase the dosage, if I want to get rid of this bacterial overgrowth of

Evan's. The other supplements and diets that Evan is on

are directly based on results of the ION Profile and the IgG food panel (except

the GFCF diet...but apparently his gut is in very bad shape from the Clostridia,

and he is having major malabsorption problems, so the doctor said that we had to

stay on that diet, even though it didn't seem to do much for him

behaviorally...otherwise, we were going to drop the diet). The Naltrexone is

the only medication that we're not sure if he needs...but it did seem to

increase his vocalizations and make him sick less often (with colds and such).

The MB12, the AB12, the Glutathione, and other supplements were indicated by the

ION Profile.

Another problem that seems to have started since adding the Lauricidin,

probiotic, and activated charcoal is that Evan has been crying more and sticking

his fingers in his nose as if there's something in there, even though there's

nothing (at least nothing obvious). The MB12 has probably made him happier in

general (it had that effect when he was first on it, before we knew for sure

that he needed it on a biological level), so I can only imagine what he'd be

like without it.

Are these above-highlighted problems just initial " die-off? " If so, how long

until they stop?? Thanks for any input:)

Laurel

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