Guest guest Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 What causes increase of bacteria? I know viral die-off can increase yeast. What protocal or supplements can increase bad bacteria and what can you do besides increase probiotics and use olive leaf extract if the bacteria gets really bad? Any one using the supplement hydrochloric acid? Since using this we have had much easier time with constipation. Any pros and cons with using this? Thanks, Melinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 You can have the same die off effect with bacterial issues, in terms of what to give you sould really do a CDSA test. They will identify the bacteria and what it is sensitive to. Both natural and antibiotic options will be listed. Re the acid, I would also test and try and confirm that. It is found in many mercury toxic people they have low stomach acid and it helps to supplement but if you don't need it from what I have read its worse to supplement if its not required. Does you no good for some reason, I think because there is too much acid produced and it damages the stomach. Phil > > What causes increase of bacteria? > > I know viral die-off can increase yeast. What protocal or supplements > can increase bad bacteria and what can you do besides increase > probiotics and use olive leaf extract if the bacteria gets really bad? > > Any one using the supplement hydrochloric acid? Since using this we > have had much easier time with constipation. Any pros and cons with > using this? > > Thanks, Melinda > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 Are you saying that viral die-off can increase bacteria? We have had bacteria and yeast in check in the past than started working on viruses and what we gave appeared to address viruses but threw bacteria and or yeast out of balance. Currently appears more bacteria than yeast in her symptoms and behaviors. We do have heavy metal issues as well. Deranged mineral transport and high arsenic. Need to get things under control before starting chelation. What are your thoughts on Natural Cellular Defense? Melinda > > > > What causes increase of bacteria? > > > > I know viral die-off can increase yeast. What protocal or supplements > > can increase bad bacteria and what can you do besides increase > > probiotics and use olive leaf extract if the bacteria gets really > bad? > > > > Any one using the supplement hydrochloric acid? Since using this we > > have had much easier time with constipation. Any pros and cons with > > using this? > > > > Thanks, Melinda > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 Hi Melinda, We've been using NCD for about a month with AWESOME results. So good in fact that I'm considering going off the TD-DMSA and doing NCD full time. My daughter is 3 years old, 35 lbs, previously non-verbal or close to it. Since NCD she has perfect eye contact, receptive language is through the roof and stims are gone. She appears now to be a 3 year old with a severe language delay. I just got a urine test back and she is dumping lead, aluminum and uranium. We are doing NCD on the off days we do TD-DMSA (3/11 schedule), so we're doing way more NCD than DMSA. I love it so far. Blessings, S. > > > > > > What causes increase of bacteria? > > > > > > I know viral die-off can increase yeast. What protocal or > supplements > > > can increase bad bacteria and what can you do besides increase > > > probiotics and use olive leaf extract if the bacteria gets really > > bad? > > > > > > Any one using the supplement hydrochloric acid? Since using this > we > > > have had much easier time with constipation. Any pros and cons > with > > > using this? > > > > > > Thanks, Melinda > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Hi personally I control the bacterial issues through the SCD diet mostly, the majority of bacteria likes starch, some I have found (citrobacter like sugars also). To control citrobacter and candida no sugar is a requirement. For viral issues I am not so experienced. Follow that with good diet and probiotics and they come under control, possibly can be treated short term with antibiotics or natural substances but can often return e.g klebsiella, many people seem to find these clear up when metal burden is removed from the body and better/full immune function returns. I too would be interested if any treatment types/substances do increase some overgrowths of candida/bacteria etc Phil > > > > > > What causes increase of bacteria? > > > > > > I know viral die-off can increase yeast. What protocal or > supplements > > > can increase bad bacteria and what can you do besides increase > > > probiotics and use olive leaf extract if the bacteria gets really > > bad? > > > > > > Any one using the supplement hydrochloric acid? Since using this > we > > > have had much easier time with constipation. Any pros and cons > with > > > using this? > > > > > > Thanks, Melinda > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Could do with an edit function on these posts, forgot one thing. Where I mentioned about whether some treatment substances cause overgrowth of candida/bacteria. I say this because I am not so sure they do from what I have gathered over time, e.g people often rid candida and get bacteria etc etc. What often happens is these are opportunistic and when one thing is treated unless the good guys quickly take up residence the bad ones happily do. Phil > > > > > > What causes increase of bacteria? > > > > > > I know viral die-off can increase yeast. What protocal or > supplements > > > can increase bad bacteria and what can you do besides increase > > > probiotics and use olive leaf extract if the bacteria gets really > > bad? > > > > > > Any one using the supplement hydrochloric acid? Since using this > we > > > have had much easier time with constipation. Any pros and cons > with > > > using this? > > > > > > Thanks, Melinda > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 May I ask what is a CDSA test? philallen876546 <phiallen@...> wrote: Could do with an edit function on these posts, forgot one thing. Where I mentioned about whether some treatment substances cause overgrowth of candida/bacteria. I say this because I am not so sure they do from what I have gathered over time, e.g people often rid candida and get bacteria etc etc. What often happens is these are opportunistic and when one thing is treated unless the good guys quickly take up residence the bad ones happily do. Phil > > > > > > What causes increase of bacteria? > > > > > > I know viral die-off can increase yeast. What protocal or > supplements > > > can increase bad bacteria and what can you do besides increase > > > probiotics and use olive leaf extract if the bacteria gets really > > bad? > > > > > > Any one using the supplement hydrochloric acid? Since using this > we > > > have had much easier time with constipation. Any pros and cons > with > > > using this? > > > > > > Thanks, Melinda > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Its a comprehensive stool test to diagnose the cause of gut issues. Often doctors and standard hospital tests do not pick anything up and they just diagnose " IBS " for every case where there seems to be gut issues. They say eat more fibre, try a better diet etc. So people go to these specialist labs to have tests done instead to pick up what is actually causing the problem. See http://www.gdx.net/home/ for example Phil > > > > > > > > What causes increase of bacteria? > > > > > > > > I know viral die-off can increase yeast. What protocal or > > supplements > > > > can increase bad bacteria and what can you do besides increase > > > > probiotics and use olive leaf extract if the bacteria gets > really > > > bad? > > > > > > > > Any one using the supplement hydrochloric acid? Since using > this > > we > > > > have had much easier time with constipation. Any pros and cons > > with > > > > using this? > > > > > > > > Thanks, Melinda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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