Re: BM Question since beginning AFP Peptizyde

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This is personal opinion back up by articles I've read but lose the soy. I hear

nothing good about it. Yes, my daughter's were on soy too and I deeply regret

it. I didn't know. Rice milk would be better or look at the website

soyfreesolutions for alternative formulas.

How long has she been in AFP? I understand food in/poop out should be the norm.

If you go by my ASD son, this is now true.

Don't worry about TMI here, you didn't even say what color ;>)

Kathy

BM Question since beginning AFP Peptizyde

I started giving my 14 mo. old daughter 1 AFP Peptizyde chewable

(crushed) before each meal (and her 2 bottles) on Friday and this

morning she had the strangest BM. They have always been very mushy

and are about 1-2 BM's per day (or every other day) in frequency.

This BM had the appearance/texture of sand. Like the typical mushy

stool (however with no undigested foods) but like someone had poored

a cupful of sandlike material in it. Babywipes couldn't even handle

this job! (TMI, sorry!).

I just wondered if this is a side effect of the enzymes, maybe we

are dosing too much, or if maybe it's a good thing and her system is

clearing out some bad stuff.

She eats a pretty simple diet - GF grains, fruits, vegetables and

chicken. She also still gets 2 bottles (AM and PM) of Soy Formula.

We have not introduced her to dairy or Casein yet. She takes CLO,

Fish Oil, Vitamin C (200mg) and a multi-vitamin.

I also wanted to make sure that I wasn't starting too high of a

dose, or too low. She's 27lbs (97%) and 34 " (off the charts). She

has two siblings on the autism spectrum and I just want to make sure

that I'm doing the right things for her.

Thanks for any help!

Amy

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Hi Amy

AFP or any other strong protease can cause loose stools, especially

in the beginning. I would maybe try cutting the dose in half and

work up to a full dose over a weeks time or so. I don't know about

the sand - this may just be cleaning out of unwanted junk which the

enzymes will do.

Sheresa

>

> I started giving my 14 mo. old daughter 1 AFP Peptizyde chewable

> (crushed) before each meal (and her 2 bottles) on Friday and this

> morning she had the strangest BM. They have always been very mushy

> and are about 1-2 BM's per day (or every other day) in frequency.

> This BM had the appearance/texture of sand. Like the typical mushy

> stool (however with no undigested foods) but like someone had

poored

> a cupful of sandlike material in it. Babywipes couldn't even

handle

> this job! (TMI, sorry!).

>

> I just wondered if this is a side effect of the enzymes, maybe we

> are dosing too much, or if maybe it's a good thing and her system

is

> clearing out some bad stuff.

>

> She eats a pretty simple diet - GF grains, fruits, vegetables and

> chicken. She also still gets 2 bottles (AM and PM) of Soy Formula.

> We have not introduced her to dairy or Casein yet. She takes CLO,

> Fish Oil, Vitamin C (200mg) and a multi-vitamin.

>

> I also wanted to make sure that I wasn't starting too high of a

> dose, or too low. She's 27lbs (97%) and 34 " (off the charts). She

> has two siblings on the autism spectrum and I just want to make

sure

> that I'm doing the right things for her.

>

> Thanks for any help!

>

> Amy

>

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My son had quite a bit of grainy stuff too -- sand or small seed

(flax) size. I've concluded that it was either

1) Old partial blockages being broken up and coming out.

2) I have also read that black specks can be a sign of yeast die-

off, and enzymes (especially strong proteases) can make an

inhospitable environment for yeast.

> >

> > I started giving my 14 mo. old daughter 1 AFP Peptizyde chewable

> > (crushed) before each meal (and her 2 bottles) on Friday and

this

> > morning she had the strangest BM. They have always been very

mushy

> > and are about 1-2 BM's per day (or every other day) in

frequency.

> > This BM had the appearance/texture of sand. Like the typical

mushy

> > stool (however with no undigested foods) but like someone had

> poored

> > a cupful of sandlike material in it. Babywipes couldn't even

> handle

> > this job! (TMI, sorry!).

> >

> > I just wondered if this is a side effect of the enzymes, maybe

we

> > are dosing too much, or if maybe it's a good thing and her

system

> is

> > clearing out some bad stuff.

> >

> > She eats a pretty simple diet - GF grains, fruits, vegetables

and

> > chicken. She also still gets 2 bottles (AM and PM) of Soy

Formula.

> > We have not introduced her to dairy or Casein yet. She takes

CLO,

> > Fish Oil, Vitamin C (200mg) and a multi-vitamin.

> >

> > I also wanted to make sure that I wasn't starting too high of a

> > dose, or too low. She's 27lbs (97%) and 34 " (off the charts).

She

> > has two siblings on the autism spectrum and I just want to make

> sure

> > that I'm doing the right things for her.

> >

> > Thanks for any help!

> >

> > Amy

> >

>

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We have the black specks! When I clean out underwear (BM inside of course) I

see this black grainy sandy stuff even some things feel like a little rock or

gravel or something. I usually set the underwear in our shallow sink with water

in it to see if food particles are floating in there after a while. I pull the

plug and its all that black stuff. Its better than finding food not digested.

We give No fenol and AFP. He acted like he could taste the ZP. After one week

of enzymes he said, " daddy, I have to poop! " and he just turned 8yrs old. We

are slowly getting him to sleep not in our bed. Unfortunately, not in his bed

either! We have got good reports from school even tho they don't know what is

going on! The food in the BMs are not there. The black stuff is the gravel

like stuff. Its there. The BMs are still dense.

Yesterday he asked me to " cut off his ear " which means the ear infections are

coming back. Yuck. Instead of calling the doc I went to the local HFS and

bought some ViraStop and Nutribiotic has an Ear drop formula with GSE. We will

try this tonight. Hopefully it will help him. Anybody do chiropractic treatment

to help with ear infections or should I just treat it with Virastop and treat

for viruses.

Thanks.

April.

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Yep -- it WAS the same here. He had been on Miralax but it's been

Mag/Vit C, enzymes, probiotics, and zinc for 3 months now -- and the

grainy poops stopped after about a month +/-. Now -- get this -- I'm

bragging about poop -- he has one in the morning and one at night

MOST every day!! Yippee!!!

>

> We have the black specks! When I clean out underwear (BM inside of

course) I see this black grainy sandy stuff even some things feel

like a little rock or gravel or something. I usually set the

underwear in our shallow sink with water in it to see if food

particles are floating in there after a while. I pull the plug and

its all that black stuff. Its better than finding food not

digested. We give No fenol and AFP. He acted like he could taste

the ZP. After one week of enzymes he said, " daddy, I have to poop! "

and he just turned 8yrs old. We are slowly getting him to sleep not

in our bed. Unfortunately, not in his bed either! We have got good

reports from school even tho they don't know what is going on! The

food in the BMs are not there. The black stuff is the gravel like

stuff. Its there. The BMs are still dense.

>

> Yesterday he asked me to " cut off his ear " which means the ear

infections are coming back. Yuck. Instead of calling the doc I went

to the local HFS and bought some ViraStop and Nutribiotic has an Ear

drop formula with GSE. We will try this tonight. Hopefully it will

help him. Anybody do chiropractic treatment to help with ear

infections or should I just treat it with Virastop and treat for

viruses.

>

> Thanks.

> April.

>

>

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That's great.

I just wish mine would do it in the potty.

Great news though after less than a week on enzymes he said, " daddy I have to

poop! " MAJOR for this kid even if he is 8yrs old. I just wish I would have

known about enzymes earlier and gotten a diagnosis earlier for that matter. He

was almost 5yrs old!

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