Probiotics and Success with Autism

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In a message dated 10/09/2006 18:55:49 GMT Daylight Time, christianekwilliams@... writes:

A while ago somebody posted the story about the trial of a probiotictreatment to reduce the level of clostridium. The trial involved 40 autisticchildren aged between four and eight. Half were given a harmless bacteriumnaturally present in the gut, called lactobacillus lantarum; half were givena placebo.When it was time to switch the partents that had the probiotic refused to goon placebo, since their children had improved so dramaticially. http://autismconnect.org/news.asp?section=00010001<http://autismconnect.org/news.asp?section=00010001 & itemtype=news & id=5903> & itemtype=news & id=5903I was trying to figure out which probitoic strand they used and to spare youthe work, here is the information. The article states:"The probiotic was administered as a gramme of powder each day containingaround 1 billion bacteria. "However this is a typo. They used lactobacillus plantarum. So when Iresearched L. plantarum, I discovered that this unique strand has the uniqueability to "liquefy gelatin." Gelatin is used to determine if a product canbreak down protein into usable nutrients (amino acids). So therefore itworks like an enzyme. Amazing.I have not found a source for it, but if I do, I will sure give it a try!Christiane

A while ago somebody posted the story about the trial of a probiotic

treatment to reduce the level of clostridium. The trial involved 40 autistic

children aged between four and eight. Half were given a harmless bacterium

naturally present in the gut, called lactobacillus lantarum; half were given

a placebo.

When it was time to switch the partents that had the probiotic refused to go

on placebo, since their children had improved so dramaticially.

http://autismconnect.org/news.asp?section=00010001

<http://autismconnect.org/news.asp?section=00010001 & itemtype=news & id=5903>

& itemtype=news & id=5903

I was trying to figure out which probitoic strand they used and to spare you

the work, here is the information. The article states:

" The probiotic was administered as a gramme of powder each day containing

around 1 billion bacteria. "

However this is a typo. They used lactobacillus plantarum. So when I

researched L. plantarum, I discovered that this unique strand has the unique

ability to " liquefy gelatin. " Gelatin is used to determine if a product can

break down protein into usable nutrients (amino acids). So therefore it

works like an enzyme. Amazing.

I have not found a source for it, but if I do, I will sure give it a try!

Christiane

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A while ago somebody posted the story about the trial of a probiotic

treatment to reduce the level of clostridium. The trial involved 40 autistic

children aged between four and eight. Half were given a harmless bacterium

naturally present in the gut, called lactobacillus lantarum; half were given

a placebo.

When it was time to switch the partents that had the probiotic refused to go

on placebo, since their children had improved so dramaticially.

http://autismconnect.org/news.asp?section=00010001

<http://autismconnect.org/news.asp?section=00010001 & itemtype=news & id=5903>

& itemtype=news & id=5903

I was trying to figure out which probitoic strand they used and to spare you

the work, here is the information. The article states:

" The probiotic was administered as a gramme of powder each day containing

around 1 billion bacteria. "

However this is a typo. They used lactobacillus plantarum. So when I

researched L. plantarum, I discovered that this unique strand has the unique

ability to " liquefy gelatin. " Gelatin is used to determine if a product can

break down protein into usable nutrients (amino acids). So therefore it

works like an enzyme. Amazing.

I have not found a source for it, but if I do, I will sure give it a try!

Christiane

[Guest guest]

I just posted re this, in case you missed it here it is again: the

particular strain of L Plantarium (spelling?) is not commercially

available. this from the person involved in the study.

Natasa

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> In a message dated 10/09/2006 18:55:49 GMT Daylight Time,

> christianekwilliams@... writes:

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> A while ago somebody posted the story about the trial of a probiotic

> treatment to reduce the level of clostridium. The trial involved 40

autistic

> children aged between four and eight. Half were given a harmless

bacterium

> naturally present in the gut, called lactobacillus lantarum; half

were given

> a placebo.

>

> When it was time to switch the partents that had the probiotic

refused to go

> on placebo, since their children had improved so dramaticially.

>

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> I was trying to figure out which probitoic strand they used and to

spare you

> the work, here is the information. The article states:

>

> " The probiotic was administered as a gramme of powder each day

containing

> around 1 billion bacteria. "

>

> However this is a typo. They used lactobacillus plantarum. So when I

> researched L. plantarum, I discovered that this unique strand has the

unique

> ability to " liquefy gelatin. " Gelatin is used to determine if a

product can

> break down protein into usable nutrients (amino acids). So therefore

it

> works like an enzyme. Amazing.

>

> I have not found a source for it, but if I do, I will sure give it a

try!

>

> Christiane

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> A while ago somebody posted the story about the trial of a probiotic

> treatment to reduce the level of clostridium. The trial involved 40

autistic

> children aged between four and eight. Half were given a harmless

bacterium

> naturally present in the gut, called lactobacillus lantarum; half were

given

> a placebo.

>

> When it was time to switch the partents that had the probiotic refused

to go

> on placebo, since their children had improved so dramaticially.

>

> http://autismconnect.org/news.asp?section=00010001

>

<http://autismconnect.org/news.asp?section=00010001 & itemtype=news & id=590\

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> & itemtype=news & id=5903

>

> I was trying to figure out which probitoic strand they used and to

spare you

> the work, here is the information. The article states:

>

> " The probiotic was administered as a gramme of powder each day

containing

> around 1 billion bacteria. "

>

> However this is a typo. They used lactobacillus plantarum. So when I

> researched L. plantarum, I discovered that this unique strand has the

unique

> ability to " liquefy gelatin. " Gelatin is used to determine if a

product can

> break down protein into usable nutrients (amino acids). So therefore

it

> works like an enzyme. Amazing.

>

>

>

> I have not found a source for it, but if I do, I will sure give it a

try!

>

>

>

> Christiane

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I though the same thing, but apparently not true, I'll quote the person

who conducted the study:

Re L plantarum from Quest:

" this is the same species as our test one - but not the same strain. It

is a relative but not actually the one tested. " (my wild guess is that

it could have something to do with cultivation etc)

Furthermore, re the Clostridium species they found:

" histolyticum is a group of clostridia comprising many different

species... "

Natasa

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> >

> > In a message dated 10/09/2006 18:55:49 GMT Daylight Time,

> > christianekwilliams@ writes:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > A while ago somebody posted the story about the trial of a

probiotic

> > treatment to reduce the level of clostridium. The trial involved

40

> autistic

> > children aged between four and eight. Half were given a harmless

> bacterium

> > naturally present in the gut, called lactobacillus lantarum; half

> were given

> > a placebo.

> >

> > When it was time to switch the partents that had the probiotic

> refused to go

> > on placebo, since their children had improved so dramaticially.

> >

> > _http://autismconnechttp://autihttp://autishttp://a_'>http://autismconnechttp://autihttp://autishttp://a_

> > (http://autismconnect.org/news.asp?section=00010001)

> >

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> > I was trying to figure out which probitoic strand they used and to

> spare you

> > the work, here is the information. The article states:

> >

> > " The probiotic was administered as a gramme of powder each day

> containing

> > around 1 billion bacteria. "

> >

> > However this is a typo. They used lactobacillus plantarum. So when

I

> > researched L. plantarum, I discovered that this unique strand has

the

> unique

> > ability to " liquefy gelatin. " Gelatin is used to determine if a

> product can

> > break down protein into usable nutrients (amino acids). So

therefore

> it

> > works like an enzyme. Amazing.

> >

> > I have not found a source for it, but if I do, I will sure give it

a

> try!

> >

> > Christiane

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> >

> >

> >

> > A while ago somebody posted the story about the trial of a

probiotic

> > treatment to reduce the level of clostridium. The trial involved

40

> autistic

> > children aged between four and eight. Half were given a harmless

> bacterium

> > naturally present in the gut, called lactobacillus lantarum; half

were

> given

> > a placebo.

> >

> > When it was time to switch the partents that had the probiotic

refused

> to go

> > on placebo, since their children had improved so dramaticially.

> >

> > http://autismconnect.org/news.asp?section=00010001

> >

>

<http://autismconnect.org/news.asp?section=00010001 & itemtype=news & id=590\

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> > & itemtype=news & id=5903

> >

> > I was trying to figure out which probitoic strand they used and to

> spare you

> > the work, here is the information. The article states:

> >

> > " The probiotic was administered as a gramme of powder each day

> containing

> > around 1 billion bacteria. "

> >

> > However this is a typo. They used lactobacillus plantarum. So when

I

> > researched L. plantarum, I discovered that this unique strand has

the

> unique

> > ability to " liquefy gelatin. " Gelatin is used to determine if a

> product can

> > break down protein into usable nutrients (amino acids). So

therefore

> it

> > works like an enzyme. Amazing.

> >

> >

> >

> > I have not found a source for it, but if I do, I will sure give it

a

> try!

> >

> >

> >

> > Christiane

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Natasha,

This sounds like Gordon Gibson's team at Reading. (My son was one of

those involved in the pilot work for this study - one of the ones

originally found to have sky-high clostridia).

I did think L.plantarum was available commercially, though I can't

find where as it was a very long time ago I looked into this. There

is some L.plantarum in Bio-Kult too.

Sharon

>

> I just posted re this, in case you missed it here it is again: the

> particular strain of L Plantarium (spelling?) is not commercially

> available. this from the person involved in the study.

>

> Natasa