Re: Some interesting stuff about anti yeast prods

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Bacterial dysbiosis This may be caused by poor digestion of foods

allowing undigested foods to pass into the large bowel where they are fermented

by grateful bacteria. This is experienced by most people following a dish of

baked beans. Beans are poorly digested in the upper gut and when they move into

the large bowel they cause undisguised amusement to younger generations and

embarrassment to oldies. However, if this happens with all foods, investigation

of digestion is warranted such as a Comprehensive digestive stool analysis and

Gut fermentation profile test. (Links at end of section) Wrong bacteria

present: if these are clear pathogens, then the appropriate antibiotic must be

used followed by recolonisation with probiotics. If the bacteria are not too

nasty then I might try a milder herbal preparation with probiotics in order to

try not to upset the good bugs too much. Probiotics recolonise the gut with

the good bugs and their natural food. See Probiotics -

the good bugs in this section or use link.

Fungal dysbiosisThere are many herbal antifungals on the market in response

to the desire to treat " candida " . My experience from looking at results from

stool samples is that herbal treatments are often not effective. The systemic

(prescribed) antifungals such as Sporanox are nearly always effective.

Furthermore Sporanox does not upset the good bugs. However, there is a small

risk of liver problems (although I must say I have never seen a problem) and if

Sporanox is to be used for more than one month, blood tests to check liver

function should be done. Itraconazole (Sporanox) 100mgs daily

Ketoconazole (Nizoral) 200mgs daily: cheapest but needs regular liver function

tests.

Fluconazole (Diflucan) 50mgs daily: most expensive. Can be bought over the

counter as a " one off " treatment for vaginal thrush.

Again, there are no " strong " or " weak " antifungals, only sensitive or

resistant fungi. Nystatin this can be prescribed as tablets or powder. I tend

to use nystatin tablets (500,000 units, 4 daily). The powder is cheaper but can

be nauseating.

Amphotericin (Fungilin) 100mgs tabs up to 8 daily.

It is my experience that these antifungals, and the herbals, are more likely

to cause " die off " symptoms (i.e. an initial worsening of symptoms thought to be

due to release of antigen from dying yeasts). Biocidin (75mgs) and Biocidin

Forte (150mgs). This is a grapefruit seed extract, not absorbed systemically,

anti-fungal (broad range), antibacterial (broad range including campylobacter

jejuni and helicobacter pylori). Biocidin also kills the " good " bugs such as

lactobacillus acidophillus and therefore pro-biotics (Bio-acidophillus or

Replete) should be taken after a course.

Eradicidin Forte: contains artemisia annua 300mgs, biocidin 75mgs, berberis

100mgs. Artemisia (a chinese herb) is recommended by the WHO for the treatment

of chloroquine resisitant malaria. It may be effective against giardia,

amoebiasis and blastocystis hominis (but I reckon you have to take up to 9

capsules a day to achieve this). Berberis (used by the Chinese for 3,000 years)

is active against many bacteria, fungi, protozoa, blastocystis, worms and

viruses. This may have some systemic activity. It also kills the good bugs and

must be followed by probiotics Garlic Plus 400mgs freeze-dried, low odour

garlic - use with above preparations to enhance their effect. Absorbed

systemically. Oregano complex: said to be broad spectrum anti microbial with

systemic effects. Contains oils of oregano, clove, artemisia, ginger, borage

seed oil and lauric acid. Not to be used in pregnancy. The usual dose is one

capsule twice daily. Must be followed by probiotics. Candistatin: Pau

D'Arco, garlic, berberis, hydrastis canadensis, silymarin plus some enzymes.

Antifungal. Mycopryl: this is an indirect treatment for fungi because it

supplies the food on which the good bugs thrive, so crowding out the bad bugs.

It is a fatty acid derived from coconut and comes in 250mg, 400mgs and 680mg

capsules. Start with the 400mgs one daily and build up to one capsule three

times daily. If tolerated, go to 680mgs three times daily. There are many

other herbal antifungals on the market worth investigating. Diet for gut

dysbiosisBroadly speaking this wants to be high fibre (in order to give the good

bugs something to live on) and low sugar and carbohydrate (to starve out the

fungi which can only ferment sugars). Some people are also allergic to fungi

which means they also need to avoid fungi in their diet. However the two

problems do not invariably go together! Do not be too strict on low sugar

initially: some people, particularly CFS sufferers, feel terrible

if they go straight on to a very low sugar (i.e. no fruit as well) diet because

they become hypoglycaemic. NOTE: bd means twice daily; tds means three times

daily.

Related Test

Comprehensive Digestive Stool Analysis

Gut Fermentation Profile

Gut permeability test

Related articles

Dysbiosis - diet for yeast overgrowth

Dybiosis (bacterial) - gut sterilisation routine

Probiotics - use routinely after antibiotics and gastroenteritis

laurence.bennett@... wrote:

BIOCIDIN is excellent.

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From: " precious_pink "

> Hi,

>

> My 4 year old AU son uses Caprylic Acid for yeast. It smells and

> tastes horrible. He only eats baby food and drinks small amounts of

> water. He hates taking his feed with it in it. Does anyone have a

> better tasting option that would be good for the yeast stirring up?

>

> Thanks,

> Sheryl

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In a message dated 22/09/2006 02:01:01 GMT Daylight Time, nanski@...

writes:

Bacterial dysbiosis This may be caused by poor digestion of foods allowing

undigested foods to pass into the large bowel where they are fermented by

grateful bacteria.

>>Which is where the enzymes comes in......................

Mandi in UK