Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 > How does one know if their child has fenol issues? > What are the symptoms? Info here http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Hi All, Thanks Dana for the info. Still not sure if my son has issues or not. He had chronic runny stools for as long as I can remember, but, has been PERFECT the last month since about a month on Houston Enzymes (Peptizyde & Zyme Prime), he can certainly get red ears, but not like he use too, and he can be aggressive (lashes out if frustrated - biting, pulling hair, hitting, grabbing, pinching). Heck is is 3 1/2! ;-) He loves fruits and veggies and I do give him lots on the HIGH FENOL list. So, does anyone actually give ALL 3 Houston Enzymes at one time? Chase gets Peptizyde and Zyme Prime, 1/4 teaspoon each, before breakfast/lunch/dinner. Lori --- danasview <danasview@...> wrote: > > > How does one know if their child has fenol issues? > > > What are the symptoms? > > > Info here > > http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm > > Dana > > > > __________________________________ - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Hi Lori, I give all three enzymes mixed together in powder form with each meal and No-Fenol alone with all fruits snacks. I Started with the other two and then put him on CFGF diet because although I saw improvement with enzymes, he still was too spacey. Then I added No-Fenol and for us, No-fFenol is by far the most effective enzyme. I too like many waited to add that one to my son's diet but saw the most benefit from it. I have started taking No-Fenol myself and like it --- Lori Yurtin <loriyurtin@...> wrote: > Hi All, > > Thanks Dana for the info. > > Still not sure if my son has issues or not. He had > chronic runny stools for as long as I can remember, > but, has been PERFECT the last month since about a > month on Houston Enzymes (Peptizyde & Zyme Prime), he > can certainly get red ears, but not like he use too, > and he can be aggressive (lashes out if frustrated - > biting, pulling hair, hitting, grabbing, pinching). > Heck is is 3 1/2! ;-) He loves fruits and veggies > and I do give him lots on the HIGH FENOL list. > > So, does anyone actually give ALL 3 Houston Enzymes at > one time? Chase gets Peptizyde and Zyme Prime, 1/4 > teaspoon each, before breakfast/lunch/dinner. > > Lori > > > > --- danasview <danasview@...> wrote: > > > > > > How does one know if their child has fenol issues? > > > > > What are the symptoms? > > > > > > Info here > > > > http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm > > > > Dana > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > http://mail. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Thanks Haleh, Thinking I might order it next week and give it a whirl! I am worried that some kids have shown increased crankiness and aggression when taking No Fenol. I certainly can't take more crankiness and aggression! Do things get better the longer the child is on it, generally? I know that's what happened with the other Houston Enzymes Chase is on. We never saw the " Happy Child effect " so many talk about...but, maybe the fenol foods are still causing so much discomfort for him that it would help?? Lori --- haleh niazmand <halniaz@...> wrote: > Hi Lori, > I give all three enzymes mixed together in powder > form with each meal and > No-Fenol alone with all fruits snacks. I Started > with the other two and then > put him on CFGF diet because although I saw > improvement with enzymes, he still > was too spacey. > Then I added No-Fenol and for us, No-fFenol is by > far the most effective > enzyme. I too like many waited to add that one to my > son's diet but saw the > most benefit from it. I have started taking No-Fenol > myself and like it > > > --- Lori Yurtin <loriyurtin@...> wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > Thanks Dana for the info. > > > > Still not sure if my son has issues or not. He > had > > chronic runny stools for as long as I can > remember, > > but, has been PERFECT the last month since about a > > month on Houston Enzymes (Peptizyde & Zyme Prime), > he > > can certainly get red ears, but not like he use > too, > > and he can be aggressive (lashes out if frustrated > - > > biting, pulling hair, hitting, grabbing, > pinching). > > Heck is is 3 1/2! ;-) He loves fruits and > veggies > > and I do give him lots on the HIGH FENOL list. > > > > So, does anyone actually give ALL 3 Houston > Enzymes at > > one time? Chase gets Peptizyde and Zyme Prime, > 1/4 > > teaspoon each, before breakfast/lunch/dinner. > > > > Lori > > > > > > > > --- danasview <danasview@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > How does one know if their child has fenol > issues? > > > > > > > What are the symptoms? > > > > > > > > > Info here > > > > > > http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm > > > > > > Dana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > > http://mail. > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 For my son Peptizide produced hyperness and excessive stims but the problem stopped after I reduced the dose. Maybe this is also true with No-Fenol for some kids and it is just a mater of playing with the dosage most of the time (not always though). Best of luck Haleh --- Lori Yurtin <loriyurtin@...> wrote: > Thanks Haleh, > > Thinking I might order it next week and give it a > whirl! I am worried that some kids have shown > increased crankiness and aggression when taking No > Fenol. I certainly can't take more crankiness and > aggression! > > Do things get better the longer the child is on it, > generally? > > I know that's what happened with the other Houston > Enzymes Chase is on. We never saw the " Happy Child > effect " so many talk about...but, maybe the fenol > foods are still causing so much discomfort for him > that it would help?? > > Lori > > --- haleh niazmand <halniaz@...> wrote: > > > Hi Lori, > > I give all three enzymes mixed together in powder > > form with each meal and > > No-Fenol alone with all fruits snacks. I Started > > with the other two and then > > put him on CFGF diet because although I saw > > improvement with enzymes, he still > > was too spacey. > > Then I added No-Fenol and for us, No-fFenol is by > > far the most effective > > enzyme. I too like many waited to add that one to my > > son's diet but saw the > > most benefit from it. I have started taking No-Fenol > > myself and like it > > > > > > --- Lori Yurtin <loriyurtin@...> wrote: > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > Thanks Dana for the info. > > > > > > Still not sure if my son has issues or not. He > > had > > > chronic runny stools for as long as I can > > remember, > > > but, has been PERFECT the last month since about a > > > month on Houston Enzymes (Peptizyde & Zyme Prime), > > he > > > can certainly get red ears, but not like he use > > too, > > > and he can be aggressive (lashes out if frustrated > > - > > > biting, pulling hair, hitting, grabbing, > > pinching). > > > Heck is is 3 1/2! ;-) He loves fruits and > > veggies > > > and I do give him lots on the HIGH FENOL list. > > > > > > So, does anyone actually give ALL 3 Houston > > Enzymes at > > > one time? Chase gets Peptizyde and Zyme Prime, > > 1/4 > > > teaspoon each, before breakfast/lunch/dinner. > > > > > > Lori > > > > > > > > > > > > --- danasview <danasview@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > How does one know if their child has fenol > > issues? > > > > > > > > > What are the symptoms? > > > > > > > > > > > > Info here > > > > > > > > http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm > > > > > > > > Dana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > > > http://mail. > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 Hi Deanne Re dark circles under eyes Not Dana but . . . for my son it was definitely phenol intolerance but I know that some people ascribe the dark circles to heavy metal toxicity and others to an overload in systemic bacteria. Good luck _____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 That's something I didn't mention. Chase has always had that too - not severe - but noticeable more at some times than other times. His GI Dr told us its due to chronic constipation!?! Guess it could be several different reasons.... Lori --- Haks <cathy@...> wrote: > Hi Deanne > > > > Re dark circles under eyes > > Not Dana but . . . for my son it was definitely > phenol intolerance but I > know that some people ascribe the dark circles to > heavy metal toxicity and > others to an overload in systemic bacteria. > > > > Good luck > > > > > > _____ > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________ - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 yeah for us its a combination - phenols, and toxic load - especially if he is constipated his eyes are black hth emma Haks <cathy@...> wrote: Hi Deanne Re dark circles under eyes Not Dana but . . . for my son it was definitely phenol intolerance but I know that some people ascribe the dark circles to heavy metal toxicity and others to an overload in systemic bacteria. Good luck _____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 > So, does anyone actually give ALL 3 Houston Enzymes at > one time? I did, with everything my son ate, for about 2 years. Good luck. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 > Dana...my son has always had dark circles under his eyes. We are trying all three enzymes now. We have been totally unable to detect the cause as we have tried a restricted diet too. He eats a wide range of foods. I noted that phenol intolerance can cause this...but can any food intolerance cause this? Yes >>If there is no change with restricted diet or enzymes...do you have any further input on cause. For my son, it had lots of causes. Several deficiencies caused dark circles, yeast and virus issues caused them, someone mentioned constipation. There are lots of things that can cause dark circles, altho phenol intolerance [and certain other foods] are the most common. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2005 Report Share Posted September 20, 2005 The allergists used to call these " allergic shiners. " They can come from food allergies or inhalant allergies. Peace, Kathy E. Kathleen_E@... > > Dana...my son has always had dark circles under his eyes. We are > trying all three enzymes now. We have been totally unable to detect > the cause as we have tried a restricted diet too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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