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First, what in the world is an RN doing prescribing. It's bad enough

when GP's do, they don't know enough about these drugs to use wisely, much

less a nurse. The other part, is that if he is truly ADD, get him to a

neurologist. Now this is personal opinion, but as an advocate for exceptional

children,

I truly believe only, only neurologists should be diagnosing and treating a

neurological condition. If he is having mania as a result of the meds, the

situation is truly complicated. He needs really good medical care, and an

integrated approach, not just whoever is available that day. Best of luck to

you,

especially with a child in the house.

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Peggy

My heart goes out to you for what the poison has done to your life.

I can't tell you how long it will take and the only suggestion I can

give you is to see if he will try Noni Juice. I don't know for sure

it works but I was told about it by Dr Ann Blake . I think she

said about a cup a day. I will warn you it is a little bit expensive

and it tastes NASTY. I also must say I'm proud of you for seeking

the truth and standing by him. Did the Dr that prescribed the Zoloft

know about the other episode? Has he been checked for a sleeping

disorder? There is an article here somewhere about sleeping

disorders and ADHD.

Charlie

> I just don't know where to turn at this point. I am 53yrs living

> wihth boyfriend 17yrs. Both of us raising my now 10.5 year old

> granddaghter since she was 2. My boyfirend has ADHD. 9 years ago

they

> put him on a tricyclic antidepressant and he went manic. The psych

> would not talk with me and he did not see it during med checks. My

> boyfriend who is a hard worker, much a home body, doesn't drink,

or

> go out. Last time he was drinking, met a girl.His behavior was

crazy,

> buying, going out, telling me I was old, he wanted children etc

etc.

> When I finally convinced the psych to really talk with him he

> realized he was infact manic, took him off the meds and he came

down.

> It was two months of hell. It is happening again. He has known

this

> women for only three weeks, has been spending nights, wants me and

my

> grandtr out of the house he wants to be free. He did realize on

some

> level what was happenng and went off the meds cold turkey. That is

> when he really went manic. He has been off now for three weeks. He

is

> very agitated, major panic attacks. He associates the anxiety with

me

> and graddtr cause thats where he first experienced it. Does anyone

> know how long it will take for this drug to clear his system. I am

> not sure but I think it was about two to three weeks the last

time.

> He was on a tricyclic the last time. This time it was SSRI Zoloft

> which I heard is worse. Tomorrow will be three weeks. He did come

> home last night. He said it was the first night he has been able

to

> sleep in a long time. I think he may be comng down but not sure.

He

> is claiming he is sleeping on this womens couch and has not had

sex

> with her. Sometimes he seems in touch, but other times he is very

> agitated. Blames me for everything, then cries and tells me he

does

> not want me to leave. he is living his life through music. Very

much

> the same behavior as last time. I am trying not to challenge him,

and

> let him know he is safe at home. can anyone advise me. Dear God I

> slept with him last night and I am terrified now. I felt like if I

> rejected him it would push him further away. please help anyone.

The

> VA psych RN that prescribed this shit will not call me back after

I

> told her she was responsible. I know for a fact my boyfiend signed

a

> release for her to talk with me cause he told me he did. He has

never

> been manic in his life except for these two times both while on

> antidepressants. There is no doubt this is chemical induced mania.

I

> know I may be rambling but I feel manic sometimes myself. These

two

> weeks have seemed like ten years.

> Peggy

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Peggy,

It's the drugs. go check out www.alternativementalhealth.com

and www.acam.org and find a doctor that will wean him off the crap.

Jim

I just don't know where to turn at this point. I am 53yrs living

wihth boyfriend 17yrs. Both of us raising my now 10.5 year old

granddaghter since she was 2. My boyfirend has ADHD. 9 years ago they

put him on a tricyclic antidepressant and he went manic. The psych

would not talk with me and he did not see it during med checks. My

boyfriend who is a hard worker, much a home body, doesn't drink, or

go out. Last time he was drinking, met a girl.His behavior was crazy,

buying, going out, telling me I was old, he wanted children etc etc.

When I finally convinced the psych to really talk with him he

realized he was infact manic, took him off the meds and he came down.

It was two months of hell. It is happening again. He has known this

women for only three weeks, has been spending nights, wants me and my

grandtr out of the house he wants to be free. He did realize on some

level what was happenng and went off the meds cold turkey. That is

when he really went manic. He has been off now for three weeks. He is

very agitated, major panic attacks. He associates the anxiety with me

and graddtr cause thats where he first experienced it. Does anyone

know how long it will take for this drug to clear his system. I am

not sure but I think it was about two to three weeks the last time.

He was on a tricyclic the last time. This time it was SSRI Zoloft

which I heard is worse. Tomorrow will be three weeks. He did come

home last night. He said it was the first night he has been able to

sleep in a long time. I think he may be comng down but not sure. He

is claiming he is sleeping on this womens couch and has not had sex

with her. Sometimes he seems in touch, but other times he is very

agitated. Blames me for everything, then cries and tells me he does

not want me to leave. he is living his life through music. Very much

the same behavior as last time. I am trying not to challenge him, and

let him know he is safe at home. can anyone advise me. Dear God I

slept with him last night and I am terrified now. I felt like if I

rejected him it would push him further away. please help anyone. The

VA psych RN that prescribed this shit will not call me back after I

told her she was responsible. I know for a fact my boyfiend signed a

release for her to talk with me cause he told me he did. He has never

been manic in his life except for these two times both while on

antidepressants. There is no doubt this is chemical induced mania. I

know I may be rambling but I feel manic sometimes myself. These two

weeks have seemed like ten years.

Peggy

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No he has not been checked for a sleeping disorder,but I think he has

one. I also must tell youhe has been on valium and Xanax for years.

He does not take them all the time though. H ereally does not abuse

meds, he does not like to take them. I think thats what happened this

time. He was suppsoed to take 2 zoloft a day, and three depakote. He

said he never took the two zoloft, only one and only one depakote. He

said they gave them to him a year ago. He opened his bottom desk

drawer and it was filled with bottles of this shit, he never took it.

Right now he is listening to the sterophonics in concert, The house

is shaking, the song is Maybe Tomorrow I'll find my way home. This is

so insane. I really think he is trying to find his way back home. He

is feeding his emotions wiht music. I just have to try and not get

angry at him, and keep my cool. I don't know if we will make it

through this but I won't leave him like this. If anything happened I

would never forgive myself.

Peggy

> > I just don't know where to turn at this point. I am 53yrs living

> > wihth boyfriend 17yrs. Both of us raising my now 10.5 year old

> > granddaghter since she was 2. My boyfirend has ADHD. 9 years ago

> they

> > put him on a tricyclic antidepressant and he went manic. The

psych

> > would not talk with me and he did not see it during med checks.

My

> > boyfriend who is a hard worker, much a home body, doesn't drink,

> or

> > go out. Last time he was drinking, met a girl.His behavior was

> crazy,

> > buying, going out, telling me I was old, he wanted children etc

> etc.

> > When I finally convinced the psych to really talk with him he

> > realized he was infact manic, took him off the meds and he came

> down.

> > It was two months of hell. It is happening again. He has known

> this

> > women for only three weeks, has been spending nights, wants me

and

> my

> > grandtr out of the house he wants to be free. He did realize on

> some

> > level what was happenng and went off the meds cold turkey. That

is

> > when he really went manic. He has been off now for three weeks.

He

> is

> > very agitated, major panic attacks. He associates the anxiety

with

> me

> > and graddtr cause thats where he first experienced it. Does

anyone

> > know how long it will take for this drug to clear his system. I

am

> > not sure but I think it was about two to three weeks the last

> time.

> > He was on a tricyclic the last time. This time it was SSRI Zoloft

> > which I heard is worse. Tomorrow will be three weeks. He did come

> > home last night. He said it was the first night he has been able

> to

> > sleep in a long time. I think he may be comng down but not sure.

> He

> > is claiming he is sleeping on this womens couch and has not had

> sex

> > with her. Sometimes he seems in touch, but other times he is very

> > agitated. Blames me for everything, then cries and tells me he

> does

> > not want me to leave. he is living his life through music. Very

> much

> > the same behavior as last time. I am trying not to challenge him,

> and

> > let him know he is safe at home. can anyone advise me. Dear God I

> > slept with him last night and I am terrified now. I felt like if

I

> > rejected him it would push him further away. please help anyone.

> The

> > VA psych RN that prescribed this shit will not call me back after

> I

> > told her she was responsible. I know for a fact my boyfiend

signed

> a

> > release for her to talk with me cause he told me he did. He has

> never

> > been manic in his life except for these two times both while on

> > antidepressants. There is no doubt this is chemical induced

mania.

> I

> > know I may be rambling but I feel manic sometimes myself. These

> two

> > weeks have seemed like ten years.

> > Peggy

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This RN is a psych nurse that can prescribe. He has been seen by a

neurologist. That is when this craziness began years ago. This guy

cannot tolerate meds. He has managed to build a very successful

business. He is very reclusive but so what, he functions. He is very

moody but I have never really seen him depressed. I have always

prepared really good meals, organic vegitables. I see only a

homeopath. I take no presriptions meds, I don't even have medical

insurance. I have had it with main steam medicine. No one will ever

get near my granddaughter with another vaccine as long as there is a

breath in my body.

Peggy

>

> First, what in the world is an RN doing prescribing. It's

bad enough

> when GP's do, they don't know enough about these drugs to use

wisely, much

> less a nurse. The other part, is that if he is truly ADD, get him

to a

> neurologist. Now this is personal opinion, but as an advocate for

exceptional children,

> I truly believe only, only neurologists should be diagnosing and

treating a

> neurological condition. If he is having mania as a result of the

meds, the

> situation is truly complicated. He needs really good medical care,

and an

> integrated approach, not just whoever is available that day. Best

of luck to you,

> especially with a child in the house.

>

>

>

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Peggy,

Maniais very common with SSRI's especially if hisliver

enzymes P 450 system is not metabolizing the

medication.

My daughter is tapering off of Lexapro and at first

when we tried to taper by 10% of her dose she was very

manic and acted out of character.

I had to slow downthe tapering to about 4% of her

dose, for example she was on 20 Mg of lexapro so we

tapered by .08 Mg to 19.2Mg forabout 3 to 4 weeks

until she stabilized.

I wonderig he is experiencing the ZAPS from the

withdrawal, anxiety, moodiness, nightmares, and anger

are all normal. It could takes months to stabilize if

he just cold turkeyed. Unless is willing to slowly

taper off this medication.............time is the only

thing along with vitamins and healthy eating.

--- cdvlcarpenter <cdvlcarpenter@...> wrote:

> Peggy

> My heart goes out to you for what the poison has

> done to your life.

> I can't tell you how long it will take and the only

> suggestion I can

> give you is to see if he will try Noni Juice. I

> don't know for sure

> it works but I was told about it by Dr Ann Blake

> . I think she

> said about a cup a day. I will warn you it is a

> little bit expensive

> and it tastes NASTY. I also must say I'm proud of

> you for seeking

> the truth and standing by him. Did the Dr that

> prescribed the Zoloft

> know about the other episode? Has he been checked

> for a sleeping

> disorder? There is an article here somewhere about

> sleeping

> disorders and ADHD.

>

> Charlie

>

>

>

> > I just don't know where to turn at this point. I

> am 53yrs living

> > wihth boyfriend 17yrs. Both of us raising my now

> 10.5 year old

> > granddaghter since she was 2. My boyfirend has

> ADHD. 9 years ago

> they

> > put him on a tricyclic antidepressant and he went

> manic. The psych

> > would not talk with me and he did not see it

> during med checks. My

> > boyfriend who is a hard worker, much a home body,

> doesn't drink,

> or

> > go out. Last time he was drinking, met a girl.His

> behavior was

> crazy,

> > buying, going out, telling me I was old, he wanted

> children etc

> etc.

> > When I finally convinced the psych to really talk

> with him he

> > realized he was infact manic, took him off the

> meds and he came

> down.

> > It was two months of hell. It is happening again.

> He has known

> this

> > women for only three weeks, has been spending

> nights, wants me and

> my

> > grandtr out of the house he wants to be free. He

> did realize on

> some

> > level what was happenng and went off the meds cold

> turkey. That is

> > when he really went manic. He has been off now for

> three weeks. He

> is

> > very agitated, major panic attacks. He associates

> the anxiety with

> me

> > and graddtr cause thats where he first experienced

> it. Does anyone

> > know how long it will take for this drug to clear

> his system. I am

> > not sure but I think it was about two to three

> weeks the last

> time.

> > He was on a tricyclic the last time. This time it

> was SSRI Zoloft

> > which I heard is worse. Tomorrow will be three

> weeks. He did come

> > home last night. He said it was the first night he

> has been able

> to

> > sleep in a long time. I think he may be comng down

> but not sure.

> He

> > is claiming he is sleeping on this womens couch

> and has not had

> sex

> > with her. Sometimes he seems in touch, but other

> times he is very

> > agitated. Blames me for everything, then cries and

> tells me he

> does

> > not want me to leave. he is living his life

> through music. Very

> much

> > the same behavior as last time. I am trying not to

> challenge him,

> and

> > let him know he is safe at home. can anyone advise

> me. Dear God I

> > slept with him last night and I am terrified now.

> I felt like if I

> > rejected him it would push him further away.

> please help anyone.

> The

> > VA psych RN that prescribed this shit will not

> call me back after

> I

> > told her she was responsible. I know for a fact my

> boyfiend signed

> a

> > release for her to talk with me cause he told me

> he did. He has

> never

> > been manic in his life except for these two times

> both while on

> > antidepressants. There is no doubt this is

> chemical induced mania.

> I

> > know I may be rambling but I feel manic sometimes

> myself. These

> two

> > weeks have seemed like ten years.

> > Peggy

>

>

>

>

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Peggy,

Maniais very common with SSRI's especially if hisliver

enzymes P 450 system is not metabolizing the

medication.

My daughter is tapering off of Lexapro and at first

when we tried to taper by 10% of her dose she was very

manic and acted out of character.

I had to slow downthe tapering to about 4% of her

dose, for example she was on 20 Mg of lexapro so we

tapered by .08 Mg to 19.2Mg forabout 3 to 4 weeks

until she stabilized.

I wonderig he is experiencing the ZAPS from the

withdrawal, anxiety, moodiness, nightmares, and anger

are all normal. It could takes months to stabilize if

he just cold turkeyed. Unless is willing to slowly

taper off this medication.............time is the only

thing along with vitamins and healthy eating.

--- cdvlcarpenter <cdvlcarpenter@...> wrote:

> Peggy

> My heart goes out to you for what the poison has

> done to your life.

> I can't tell you how long it will take and the only

> suggestion I can

> give you is to see if he will try Noni Juice. I

> don't know for sure

> it works but I was told about it by Dr Ann Blake

> . I think she

> said about a cup a day. I will warn you it is a

> little bit expensive

> and it tastes NASTY. I also must say I'm proud of

> you for seeking

> the truth and standing by him. Did the Dr that

> prescribed the Zoloft

> know about the other episode? Has he been checked

> for a sleeping

> disorder? There is an article here somewhere about

> sleeping

> disorders and ADHD.

>

> Charlie

>

>

>

> > I just don't know where to turn at this point. I

> am 53yrs living

> > wihth boyfriend 17yrs. Both of us raising my now

> 10.5 year old

> > granddaghter since she was 2. My boyfirend has

> ADHD. 9 years ago

> they

> > put him on a tricyclic antidepressant and he went

> manic. The psych

> > would not talk with me and he did not see it

> during med checks. My

> > boyfriend who is a hard worker, much a home body,

> doesn't drink,

> or

> > go out. Last time he was drinking, met a girl.His

> behavior was

> crazy,

> > buying, going out, telling me I was old, he wanted

> children etc

> etc.

> > When I finally convinced the psych to really talk

> with him he

> > realized he was infact manic, took him off the

> meds and he came

> down.

> > It was two months of hell. It is happening again.

> He has known

> this

> > women for only three weeks, has been spending

> nights, wants me and

> my

> > grandtr out of the house he wants to be free. He

> did realize on

> some

> > level what was happenng and went off the meds cold

> turkey. That is

> > when he really went manic. He has been off now for

> three weeks. He

> is

> > very agitated, major panic attacks. He associates

> the anxiety with

> me

> > and graddtr cause thats where he first experienced

> it. Does anyone

> > know how long it will take for this drug to clear

> his system. I am

> > not sure but I think it was about two to three

> weeks the last

> time.

> > He was on a tricyclic the last time. This time it

> was SSRI Zoloft

> > which I heard is worse. Tomorrow will be three

> weeks. He did come

> > home last night. He said it was the first night he

> has been able

> to

> > sleep in a long time. I think he may be comng down

> but not sure.

> He

> > is claiming he is sleeping on this womens couch

> and has not had

> sex

> > with her. Sometimes he seems in touch, but other

> times he is very

> > agitated. Blames me for everything, then cries and

> tells me he

> does

> > not want me to leave. he is living his life

> through music. Very

> much

> > the same behavior as last time. I am trying not to

> challenge him,

> and

> > let him know he is safe at home. can anyone advise

> me. Dear God I

> > slept with him last night and I am terrified now.

> I felt like if I

> > rejected him it would push him further away.

> please help anyone.

> The

> > VA psych RN that prescribed this shit will not

> call me back after

> I

> > told her she was responsible. I know for a fact my

> boyfiend signed

> a

> > release for her to talk with me cause he told me

> he did. He has

> never

> > been manic in his life except for these two times

> both while on

> > antidepressants. There is no doubt this is

> chemical induced mania.

> I

> > know I may be rambling but I feel manic sometimes

> myself. These

> two

> > weeks have seemed like ten years.

> > Peggy

>

>

>

>

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Peggy,

Maniais very common with SSRI's especially if hisliver

enzymes P 450 system is not metabolizing the

medication.

My daughter is tapering off of Lexapro and at first

when we tried to taper by 10% of her dose she was very

manic and acted out of character.

I had to slow downthe tapering to about 4% of her

dose, for example she was on 20 Mg of lexapro so we

tapered by .08 Mg to 19.2Mg forabout 3 to 4 weeks

until she stabilized.

I wonderig he is experiencing the ZAPS from the

withdrawal, anxiety, moodiness, nightmares, and anger

are all normal. It could takes months to stabilize if

he just cold turkeyed. Unless is willing to slowly

taper off this medication.............time is the only

thing along with vitamins and healthy eating.

--- cdvlcarpenter <cdvlcarpenter@...> wrote:

> Peggy

> My heart goes out to you for what the poison has

> done to your life.

> I can't tell you how long it will take and the only

> suggestion I can

> give you is to see if he will try Noni Juice. I

> don't know for sure

> it works but I was told about it by Dr Ann Blake

> . I think she

> said about a cup a day. I will warn you it is a

> little bit expensive

> and it tastes NASTY. I also must say I'm proud of

> you for seeking

> the truth and standing by him. Did the Dr that

> prescribed the Zoloft

> know about the other episode? Has he been checked

> for a sleeping

> disorder? There is an article here somewhere about

> sleeping

> disorders and ADHD.

>

> Charlie

>

>

>

> > I just don't know where to turn at this point. I

> am 53yrs living

> > wihth boyfriend 17yrs. Both of us raising my now

> 10.5 year old

> > granddaghter since she was 2. My boyfirend has

> ADHD. 9 years ago

> they

> > put him on a tricyclic antidepressant and he went

> manic. The psych

> > would not talk with me and he did not see it

> during med checks. My

> > boyfriend who is a hard worker, much a home body,

> doesn't drink,

> or

> > go out. Last time he was drinking, met a girl.His

> behavior was

> crazy,

> > buying, going out, telling me I was old, he wanted

> children etc

> etc.

> > When I finally convinced the psych to really talk

> with him he

> > realized he was infact manic, took him off the

> meds and he came

> down.

> > It was two months of hell. It is happening again.

> He has known

> this

> > women for only three weeks, has been spending

> nights, wants me and

> my

> > grandtr out of the house he wants to be free. He

> did realize on

> some

> > level what was happenng and went off the meds cold

> turkey. That is

> > when he really went manic. He has been off now for

> three weeks. He

> is

> > very agitated, major panic attacks. He associates

> the anxiety with

> me

> > and graddtr cause thats where he first experienced

> it. Does anyone

> > know how long it will take for this drug to clear

> his system. I am

> > not sure but I think it was about two to three

> weeks the last

> time.

> > He was on a tricyclic the last time. This time it

> was SSRI Zoloft

> > which I heard is worse. Tomorrow will be three

> weeks. He did come

> > home last night. He said it was the first night he

> has been able

> to

> > sleep in a long time. I think he may be comng down

> but not sure.

> He

> > is claiming he is sleeping on this womens couch

> and has not had

> sex

> > with her. Sometimes he seems in touch, but other

> times he is very

> > agitated. Blames me for everything, then cries and

> tells me he

> does

> > not want me to leave. he is living his life

> through music. Very

> much

> > the same behavior as last time. I am trying not to

> challenge him,

> and

> > let him know he is safe at home. can anyone advise

> me. Dear God I

> > slept with him last night and I am terrified now.

> I felt like if I

> > rejected him it would push him further away.

> please help anyone.

> The

> > VA psych RN that prescribed this shit will not

> call me back after

> I

> > told her she was responsible. I know for a fact my

> boyfiend signed

> a

> > release for her to talk with me cause he told me

> he did. He has

> never

> > been manic in his life except for these two times

> both while on

> > antidepressants. There is no doubt this is

> chemical induced mania.

> I

> > know I may be rambling but I feel manic sometimes

> myself. These

> two

> > weeks have seemed like ten years.

> > Peggy

>

>

>

>

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Peggy,

Maniais very common with SSRI's especially if hisliver

enzymes P 450 system is not metabolizing the

medication.

My daughter is tapering off of Lexapro and at first

when we tried to taper by 10% of her dose she was very

manic and acted out of character.

I had to slow downthe tapering to about 4% of her

dose, for example she was on 20 Mg of lexapro so we

tapered by .08 Mg to 19.2Mg forabout 3 to 4 weeks

until she stabilized.

I wonderig he is experiencing the ZAPS from the

withdrawal, anxiety, moodiness, nightmares, and anger

are all normal. It could takes months to stabilize if

he just cold turkeyed. Unless is willing to slowly

taper off this medication.............time is the only

thing along with vitamins and healthy eating.

--- cdvlcarpenter <cdvlcarpenter@...> wrote:

> Peggy

> My heart goes out to you for what the poison has

> done to your life.

> I can't tell you how long it will take and the only

> suggestion I can

> give you is to see if he will try Noni Juice. I

> don't know for sure

> it works but I was told about it by Dr Ann Blake

> . I think she

> said about a cup a day. I will warn you it is a

> little bit expensive

> and it tastes NASTY. I also must say I'm proud of

> you for seeking

> the truth and standing by him. Did the Dr that

> prescribed the Zoloft

> know about the other episode? Has he been checked

> for a sleeping

> disorder? There is an article here somewhere about

> sleeping

> disorders and ADHD.

>

> Charlie

>

>

>

> > I just don't know where to turn at this point. I

> am 53yrs living

> > wihth boyfriend 17yrs. Both of us raising my now

> 10.5 year old

> > granddaghter since she was 2. My boyfirend has

> ADHD. 9 years ago

> they

> > put him on a tricyclic antidepressant and he went

> manic. The psych

> > would not talk with me and he did not see it

> during med checks. My

> > boyfriend who is a hard worker, much a home body,

> doesn't drink,

> or

> > go out. Last time he was drinking, met a girl.His

> behavior was

> crazy,

> > buying, going out, telling me I was old, he wanted

> children etc

> etc.

> > When I finally convinced the psych to really talk

> with him he

> > realized he was infact manic, took him off the

> meds and he came

> down.

> > It was two months of hell. It is happening again.

> He has known

> this

> > women for only three weeks, has been spending

> nights, wants me and

> my

> > grandtr out of the house he wants to be free. He

> did realize on

> some

> > level what was happenng and went off the meds cold

> turkey. That is

> > when he really went manic. He has been off now for

> three weeks. He

> is

> > very agitated, major panic attacks. He associates

> the anxiety with

> me

> > and graddtr cause thats where he first experienced

> it. Does anyone

> > know how long it will take for this drug to clear

> his system. I am

> > not sure but I think it was about two to three

> weeks the last

> time.

> > He was on a tricyclic the last time. This time it

> was SSRI Zoloft

> > which I heard is worse. Tomorrow will be three

> weeks. He did come

> > home last night. He said it was the first night he

> has been able

> to

> > sleep in a long time. I think he may be comng down

> but not sure.

> He

> > is claiming he is sleeping on this womens couch

> and has not had

> sex

> > with her. Sometimes he seems in touch, but other

> times he is very

> > agitated. Blames me for everything, then cries and

> tells me he

> does

> > not want me to leave. he is living his life

> through music. Very

> much

> > the same behavior as last time. I am trying not to

> challenge him,

> and

> > let him know he is safe at home. can anyone advise

> me. Dear God I

> > slept with him last night and I am terrified now.

> I felt like if I

> > rejected him it would push him further away.

> please help anyone.

> The

> > VA psych RN that prescribed this shit will not

> call me back after

> I

> > told her she was responsible. I know for a fact my

> boyfiend signed

> a

> > release for her to talk with me cause he told me

> he did. He has

> never

> > been manic in his life except for these two times

> both while on

> > antidepressants. There is no doubt this is

> chemical induced mania.

> I

> > know I may be rambling but I feel manic sometimes

> myself. These

> two

> > weeks have seemed like ten years.

> > Peggy

>

>

>

>

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I don't have months to wait. I don't think he has been on it for that

long. In fact I think he is coming down now. I also think he is

begining to enjoy this fantasy. He clearly knows he is manic and he

has can do something about it. He is chosing not too. He also knows I

have no place to go so he can enjoy his ride. If I did not have my

granddaughter I would be out of here. Thats what I did the last time

and he snapped out of it pretty fast. Thats because I gave him

another fantasy to think about. When I left the last time all the

love songs took on a whole different meaning when I left. Last night

he tried to make love to me again. He was still half asleep. I woke

him up beore it got started. You should have seen his reaction. He

was apalled when he saw who it was. I became very angry and asked him

if it was me he was talking too. He said I was asleep. Thats when I

told him I knew who the women was. That woke him up real fast. I even

said her name. I think part of the fun was all the mystery. Now he

has to do some thinking. He is very quiet this morning. I think he

expected me to start an argument. I told him last night that it takes

too to make a relationship work and two to trash one. I said so far

you have had exclusive rights on the trashing. Then I said maybe you

need a different fantasy to obess about and I walked out of the room.

I really want to call this women but she deserves what she gets when

he comes down off this high. I did some checking. She is a divorced

bar fly who can't afford her mortage. I checked her out on line at

the deed office. She got the house in a divorce and has remortaged it

5 times in four years. There is a mans name on the deed with hers as

co owner and its not her ex-husband. He told me she had a twinkle in

her eye when she looked at him. He should have looked close and he

would have seen the twinkle was dollar signs. I can't help my

ranting. I am so humiliated and angry. I road by her house this

morning and all the shades are torn. I am spitting mad and I think he

knows it.

Peggy

> > > I just don't know where to turn at this point. I

> > am 53yrs living

> > > wihth boyfriend 17yrs. Both of us raising my now

> > 10.5 year old

> > > granddaghter since she was 2. My boyfirend has

> > ADHD. 9 years ago

> > they

> > > put him on a tricyclic antidepressant and he went

> > manic. The psych

> > > would not talk with me and he did not see it

> > during med checks. My

> > > boyfriend who is a hard worker, much a home body,

> > doesn't drink,

> > or

> > > go out. Last time he was drinking, met a girl.His

> > behavior was

> > crazy,

> > > buying, going out, telling me I was old, he wanted

> > children etc

> > etc.

> > > When I finally convinced the psych to really talk

> > with him he

> > > realized he was infact manic, took him off the

> > meds and he came

> > down.

> > > It was two months of hell. It is happening again.

> > He has known

> > this

> > > women for only three weeks, has been spending

> > nights, wants me and

> > my

> > > grandtr out of the house he wants to be free. He

> > did realize on

> > some

> > > level what was happenng and went off the meds cold

> > turkey. That is

> > > when he really went manic. He has been off now for

> > three weeks. He

> > is

> > > very agitated, major panic attacks. He associates

> > the anxiety with

> > me

> > > and graddtr cause thats where he first experienced

> > it. Does anyone

> > > know how long it will take for this drug to clear

> > his system. I am

> > > not sure but I think it was about two to three

> > weeks the last

> > time.

> > > He was on a tricyclic the last time. This time it

> > was SSRI Zoloft

> > > which I heard is worse. Tomorrow will be three

> > weeks. He did come

> > > home last night. He said it was the first night he

> > has been able

> > to

> > > sleep in a long time. I think he may be comng down

> > but not sure.

> > He

> > > is claiming he is sleeping on this womens couch

> > and has not had

> > sex

> > > with her. Sometimes he seems in touch, but other

> > times he is very

> > > agitated. Blames me for everything, then cries and

> > tells me he

> > does

> > > not want me to leave. he is living his life

> > through music. Very

> > much

> > > the same behavior as last time. I am trying not to

> > challenge him,

> > and

> > > let him know he is safe at home. can anyone advise

> > me. Dear God I

> > > slept with him last night and I am terrified now.

> > I felt like if I

> > > rejected him it would push him further away.

> > please help anyone.

> > The

> > > VA psych RN that prescribed this shit will not

> > call me back after

> > I

> > > told her she was responsible. I know for a fact my

> > boyfiend signed

> > a

> > > release for her to talk with me cause he told me

> > he did. He has

> > never

> > > been manic in his life except for these two times

> > both while on

> > > antidepressants. There is no doubt this is

> > chemical induced mania.

> > I

> > > know I may be rambling but I feel manic sometimes

> > myself. These

> > two

> > > weeks have seemed like ten years.

> > > Peggy

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I don't have months to wait. I don't think he has been on it for that

long. In fact I think he is coming down now. I also think he is

begining to enjoy this fantasy. He clearly knows he is manic and he

has can do something about it. He is chosing not too. He also knows I

have no place to go so he can enjoy his ride. If I did not have my

granddaughter I would be out of here. Thats what I did the last time

and he snapped out of it pretty fast. Thats because I gave him

another fantasy to think about. When I left the last time all the

love songs took on a whole different meaning when I left. Last night

he tried to make love to me again. He was still half asleep. I woke

him up beore it got started. You should have seen his reaction. He

was apalled when he saw who it was. I became very angry and asked him

if it was me he was talking too. He said I was asleep. Thats when I

told him I knew who the women was. That woke him up real fast. I even

said her name. I think part of the fun was all the mystery. Now he

has to do some thinking. He is very quiet this morning. I think he

expected me to start an argument. I told him last night that it takes

too to make a relationship work and two to trash one. I said so far

you have had exclusive rights on the trashing. Then I said maybe you

need a different fantasy to obess about and I walked out of the room.

I really want to call this women but she deserves what she gets when

he comes down off this high. I did some checking. She is a divorced

bar fly who can't afford her mortage. I checked her out on line at

the deed office. She got the house in a divorce and has remortaged it

5 times in four years. There is a mans name on the deed with hers as

co owner and its not her ex-husband. He told me she had a twinkle in

her eye when she looked at him. He should have looked close and he

would have seen the twinkle was dollar signs. I can't help my

ranting. I am so humiliated and angry. I road by her house this

morning and all the shades are torn. I am spitting mad and I think he

knows it.

Peggy

> > > I just don't know where to turn at this point. I

> > am 53yrs living

> > > wihth boyfriend 17yrs. Both of us raising my now

> > 10.5 year old

> > > granddaghter since she was 2. My boyfirend has

> > ADHD. 9 years ago

> > they

> > > put him on a tricyclic antidepressant and he went

> > manic. The psych

> > > would not talk with me and he did not see it

> > during med checks. My

> > > boyfriend who is a hard worker, much a home body,

> > doesn't drink,

> > or

> > > go out. Last time he was drinking, met a girl.His

> > behavior was

> > crazy,

> > > buying, going out, telling me I was old, he wanted

> > children etc

> > etc.

> > > When I finally convinced the psych to really talk

> > with him he

> > > realized he was infact manic, took him off the

> > meds and he came

> > down.

> > > It was two months of hell. It is happening again.

> > He has known

> > this

> > > women for only three weeks, has been spending

> > nights, wants me and

> > my

> > > grandtr out of the house he wants to be free. He

> > did realize on

> > some

> > > level what was happenng and went off the meds cold

> > turkey. That is

> > > when he really went manic. He has been off now for

> > three weeks. He

> > is

> > > very agitated, major panic attacks. He associates

> > the anxiety with

> > me

> > > and graddtr cause thats where he first experienced

> > it. Does anyone

> > > know how long it will take for this drug to clear

> > his system. I am

> > > not sure but I think it was about two to three

> > weeks the last

> > time.

> > > He was on a tricyclic the last time. This time it

> > was SSRI Zoloft

> > > which I heard is worse. Tomorrow will be three

> > weeks. He did come

> > > home last night. He said it was the first night he

> > has been able

> > to

> > > sleep in a long time. I think he may be comng down

> > but not sure.

> > He

> > > is claiming he is sleeping on this womens couch

> > and has not had

> > sex

> > > with her. Sometimes he seems in touch, but other

> > times he is very

> > > agitated. Blames me for everything, then cries and

> > tells me he

> > does

> > > not want me to leave. he is living his life

> > through music. Very

> > much

> > > the same behavior as last time. I am trying not to

> > challenge him,

> > and

> > > let him know he is safe at home. can anyone advise

> > me. Dear God I

> > > slept with him last night and I am terrified now.

> > I felt like if I

> > > rejected him it would push him further away.

> > please help anyone.

> > The

> > > VA psych RN that prescribed this shit will not

> > call me back after

> > I

> > > told her she was responsible. I know for a fact my

> > boyfiend signed

> > a

> > > release for her to talk with me cause he told me

> > he did. He has

> > never

> > > been manic in his life except for these two times

> > both while on

> > > antidepressants. There is no doubt this is

> > chemical induced mania.

> > I

> > > know I may be rambling but I feel manic sometimes

> > myself. These

> > two

> > > weeks have seemed like ten years.

> > > Peggy

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I have to add that some people cold turkey off the meds and don't seem too worse

for wear but others kill themselves or someone else and/or are permanently

damaged so I would never recommend cold turkeying off psych drugs period. it's a

dangerous game of russian roulette.

JIm

Peggy,

Maniais very common with SSRI's especially if hisliver

enzymes P 450 system is not metabolizing the

medication.

My daughter is tapering off of Lexapro and at first

when we tried to taper by 10% of her dose she was very

manic and acted out of character.

I had to slow downthe tapering to about 4% of her

dose, for example she was on 20 Mg of lexapro so we

tapered by .08 Mg to 19.2Mg forabout 3 to 4 weeks

until she stabilized.

I wonderig he is experiencing the ZAPS from the

withdrawal, anxiety, moodiness, nightmares, and anger

are all normal. It could takes months to stabilize if

he just cold turkeyed. Unless is willing to slowly

taper off this medication.............time is the only

thing along with vitamins and healthy eating.

--- cdvlcarpenter <cdvlcarpenter@...> wrote:

> Peggy

> My heart goes out to you for what the poison has

> done to your life.

> I can't tell you how long it will take and the only

> suggestion I can

> give you is to see if he will try Noni Juice. I

> don't know for sure

> it works but I was told about it by Dr Ann Blake

> . I think she

> said about a cup a day. I will warn you it is a

> little bit expensive

> and it tastes NASTY. I also must say I'm proud of

> you for seeking

> the truth and standing by him. Did the Dr that

> prescribed the Zoloft

> know about the other episode? Has he been checked

> for a sleeping

> disorder? There is an article here somewhere about

> sleeping

> disorders and ADHD.

>

> Charlie

>

>

>

> > I just don't know where to turn at this point. I

> am 53yrs living

> > wihth boyfriend 17yrs. Both of us raising my now

> 10.5 year old

> > granddaghter since she was 2. My boyfirend has

> ADHD. 9 years ago

> they

> > put him on a tricyclic antidepressant and he went

> manic. The psych

> > would not talk with me and he did not see it

> during med checks. My

> > boyfriend who is a hard worker, much a home body,

> doesn't drink,

> or

> > go out. Last time he was drinking, met a girl.His

> behavior was

> crazy,

> > buying, going out, telling me I was old, he wanted

> children etc

> etc.

> > When I finally convinced the psych to really talk

> with him he

> > realized he was infact manic, took him off the

> meds and he came

> down.

> > It was two months of hell. It is happening again.

> He has known

> this

> > women for only three weeks, has been spending

> nights, wants me and

> my

> > grandtr out of the house he wants to be free. He

> did realize on

> some

> > level what was happenng and went off the meds cold

> turkey. That is

> > when he really went manic. He has been off now for

> three weeks. He

> is

> > very agitated, major panic attacks. He associates

> the anxiety with

> me

> > and graddtr cause thats where he first experienced

> it. Does anyone

> > know how long it will take for this drug to clear

> his system. I am

> > not sure but I think it was about two to three

> weeks the last

> time.

> > He was on a tricyclic the last time. This time it

> was SSRI Zoloft

> > which I heard is worse. Tomorrow will be three

> weeks. He did come

> > home last night. He said it was the first night he

> has been able

> to

> > sleep in a long time. I think he may be comng down

> but not sure.

> He

> > is claiming he is sleeping on this womens couch

> and has not had

> sex

> > with her. Sometimes he seems in touch, but other

> times he is very

> > agitated. Blames me for everything, then cries and

> tells me he

> does

> > not want me to leave. he is living his life

> through music. Very

> much

> > the same behavior as last time. I am trying not to

> challenge him,

> and

> > let him know he is safe at home. can anyone advise

> me. Dear God I

> > slept with him last night and I am terrified now.

> I felt like if I

> > rejected him it would push him further away.

> please help anyone.

> The

> > VA psych RN that prescribed this shit will not

> call me back after

> I

> > told her she was responsible. I know for a fact my

> boyfiend signed

> a

> > release for her to talk with me cause he told me

> he did. He has

> never

> > been manic in his life except for these two times

> both while on

> > antidepressants. There is no doubt this is

> chemical induced mania.

> I

> > know I may be rambling but I feel manic sometimes

> myself. These

> two

> > weeks have seemed like ten years.

> > Peggy

>

>

>

>

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I have to add that some people cold turkey off the meds and don't seem too worse

for wear but others kill themselves or someone else and/or are permanently

damaged so I would never recommend cold turkeying off psych drugs period. it's a

dangerous game of russian roulette.

JIm

Peggy,

Maniais very common with SSRI's especially if hisliver

enzymes P 450 system is not metabolizing the

medication.

My daughter is tapering off of Lexapro and at first

when we tried to taper by 10% of her dose she was very

manic and acted out of character.

I had to slow downthe tapering to about 4% of her

dose, for example she was on 20 Mg of lexapro so we

tapered by .08 Mg to 19.2Mg forabout 3 to 4 weeks

until she stabilized.

I wonderig he is experiencing the ZAPS from the

withdrawal, anxiety, moodiness, nightmares, and anger

are all normal. It could takes months to stabilize if

he just cold turkeyed. Unless is willing to slowly

taper off this medication.............time is the only

thing along with vitamins and healthy eating.

--- cdvlcarpenter <cdvlcarpenter@...> wrote:

> Peggy

> My heart goes out to you for what the poison has

> done to your life.

> I can't tell you how long it will take and the only

> suggestion I can

> give you is to see if he will try Noni Juice. I

> don't know for sure

> it works but I was told about it by Dr Ann Blake

> . I think she

> said about a cup a day. I will warn you it is a

> little bit expensive

> and it tastes NASTY. I also must say I'm proud of

> you for seeking

> the truth and standing by him. Did the Dr that

> prescribed the Zoloft

> know about the other episode? Has he been checked

> for a sleeping

> disorder? There is an article here somewhere about

> sleeping

> disorders and ADHD.

>

> Charlie

>

>

>

> > I just don't know where to turn at this point. I

> am 53yrs living

> > wihth boyfriend 17yrs. Both of us raising my now

> 10.5 year old

> > granddaghter since she was 2. My boyfirend has

> ADHD. 9 years ago

> they

> > put him on a tricyclic antidepressant and he went

> manic. The psych

> > would not talk with me and he did not see it

> during med checks. My

> > boyfriend who is a hard worker, much a home body,

> doesn't drink,

> or

> > go out. Last time he was drinking, met a girl.His

> behavior was

> crazy,

> > buying, going out, telling me I was old, he wanted

> children etc

> etc.

> > When I finally convinced the psych to really talk

> with him he

> > realized he was infact manic, took him off the

> meds and he came

> down.

> > It was two months of hell. It is happening again.

> He has known

> this

> > women for only three weeks, has been spending

> nights, wants me and

> my

> > grandtr out of the house he wants to be free. He

> did realize on

> some

> > level what was happenng and went off the meds cold

> turkey. That is

> > when he really went manic. He has been off now for

> three weeks. He

> is

> > very agitated, major panic attacks. He associates

> the anxiety with

> me

> > and graddtr cause thats where he first experienced

> it. Does anyone

> > know how long it will take for this drug to clear

> his system. I am

> > not sure but I think it was about two to three

> weeks the last

> time.

> > He was on a tricyclic the last time. This time it

> was SSRI Zoloft

> > which I heard is worse. Tomorrow will be three

> weeks. He did come

> > home last night. He said it was the first night he

> has been able

> to

> > sleep in a long time. I think he may be comng down

> but not sure.

> He

> > is claiming he is sleeping on this womens couch

> and has not had

> sex

> > with her. Sometimes he seems in touch, but other

> times he is very

> > agitated. Blames me for everything, then cries and

> tells me he

> does

> > not want me to leave. he is living his life

> through music. Very

> much

> > the same behavior as last time. I am trying not to

> challenge him,

> and

> > let him know he is safe at home. can anyone advise

> me. Dear God I

> > slept with him last night and I am terrified now.

> I felt like if I

> > rejected him it would push him further away.

> please help anyone.

> The

> > VA psych RN that prescribed this shit will not

> call me back after

> I

> > told her she was responsible. I know for a fact my

> boyfiend signed

> a

> > release for her to talk with me cause he told me

> he did. He has

> never

> > been manic in his life except for these two times

> both while on

> > antidepressants. There is no doubt this is

> chemical induced mania.

> I

> > know I may be rambling but I feel manic sometimes

> myself. These

> two

> > weeks have seemed like ten years.

> > Peggy

>

>

>

>

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I have to add that some people cold turkey off the meds and don't seem too worse

for wear but others kill themselves or someone else and/or are permanently

damaged so I would never recommend cold turkeying off psych drugs period. it's a

dangerous game of russian roulette.

JIm

Peggy,

Maniais very common with SSRI's especially if hisliver

enzymes P 450 system is not metabolizing the

medication.

My daughter is tapering off of Lexapro and at first

when we tried to taper by 10% of her dose she was very

manic and acted out of character.

I had to slow downthe tapering to about 4% of her

dose, for example she was on 20 Mg of lexapro so we

tapered by .08 Mg to 19.2Mg forabout 3 to 4 weeks

until she stabilized.

I wonderig he is experiencing the ZAPS from the

withdrawal, anxiety, moodiness, nightmares, and anger

are all normal. It could takes months to stabilize if

he just cold turkeyed. Unless is willing to slowly

taper off this medication.............time is the only

thing along with vitamins and healthy eating.

--- cdvlcarpenter <cdvlcarpenter@...> wrote:

> Peggy

> My heart goes out to you for what the poison has

> done to your life.

> I can't tell you how long it will take and the only

> suggestion I can

> give you is to see if he will try Noni Juice. I

> don't know for sure

> it works but I was told about it by Dr Ann Blake

> . I think she

> said about a cup a day. I will warn you it is a

> little bit expensive

> and it tastes NASTY. I also must say I'm proud of

> you for seeking

> the truth and standing by him. Did the Dr that

> prescribed the Zoloft

> know about the other episode? Has he been checked

> for a sleeping

> disorder? There is an article here somewhere about

> sleeping

> disorders and ADHD.

>

> Charlie

>

>

>

> > I just don't know where to turn at this point. I

> am 53yrs living

> > wihth boyfriend 17yrs. Both of us raising my now

> 10.5 year old

> > granddaghter since she was 2. My boyfirend has

> ADHD. 9 years ago

> they

> > put him on a tricyclic antidepressant and he went

> manic. The psych

> > would not talk with me and he did not see it

> during med checks. My

> > boyfriend who is a hard worker, much a home body,

> doesn't drink,

> or

> > go out. Last time he was drinking, met a girl.His

> behavior was

> crazy,

> > buying, going out, telling me I was old, he wanted

> children etc

> etc.

> > When I finally convinced the psych to really talk

> with him he

> > realized he was infact manic, took him off the

> meds and he came

> down.

> > It was two months of hell. It is happening again.

> He has known

> this

> > women for only three weeks, has been spending

> nights, wants me and

> my

> > grandtr out of the house he wants to be free. He

> did realize on

> some

> > level what was happenng and went off the meds cold

> turkey. That is

> > when he really went manic. He has been off now for

> three weeks. He

> is

> > very agitated, major panic attacks. He associates

> the anxiety with

> me

> > and graddtr cause thats where he first experienced

> it. Does anyone

> > know how long it will take for this drug to clear

> his system. I am

> > not sure but I think it was about two to three

> weeks the last

> time.

> > He was on a tricyclic the last time. This time it

> was SSRI Zoloft

> > which I heard is worse. Tomorrow will be three

> weeks. He did come

> > home last night. He said it was the first night he

> has been able

> to

> > sleep in a long time. I think he may be comng down

> but not sure.

> He

> > is claiming he is sleeping on this womens couch

> and has not had

> sex

> > with her. Sometimes he seems in touch, but other

> times he is very

> > agitated. Blames me for everything, then cries and

> tells me he

> does

> > not want me to leave. he is living his life

> through music. Very

> much

> > the same behavior as last time. I am trying not to

> challenge him,

> and

> > let him know he is safe at home. can anyone advise

> me. Dear God I

> > slept with him last night and I am terrified now.

> I felt like if I

> > rejected him it would push him further away.

> please help anyone.

> The

> > VA psych RN that prescribed this shit will not

> call me back after

> I

> > told her she was responsible. I know for a fact my

> boyfiend signed

> a

> > release for her to talk with me cause he told me

> he did. He has

> never

> > been manic in his life except for these two times

> both while on

> > antidepressants. There is no doubt this is

> chemical induced mania.

> I

> > know I may be rambling but I feel manic sometimes

> myself. These

> two

> > weeks have seemed like ten years.

> > Peggy

>

>

>

>

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I have to add that some people cold turkey off the meds and don't seem too worse

for wear but others kill themselves or someone else and/or are permanently

damaged so I would never recommend cold turkeying off psych drugs period. it's a

dangerous game of russian roulette.

JIm

Peggy,

Maniais very common with SSRI's especially if hisliver

enzymes P 450 system is not metabolizing the

medication.

My daughter is tapering off of Lexapro and at first

when we tried to taper by 10% of her dose she was very

manic and acted out of character.

I had to slow downthe tapering to about 4% of her

dose, for example she was on 20 Mg of lexapro so we

tapered by .08 Mg to 19.2Mg forabout 3 to 4 weeks

until she stabilized.

I wonderig he is experiencing the ZAPS from the

withdrawal, anxiety, moodiness, nightmares, and anger

are all normal. It could takes months to stabilize if

he just cold turkeyed. Unless is willing to slowly

taper off this medication.............time is the only

thing along with vitamins and healthy eating.

--- cdvlcarpenter <cdvlcarpenter@...> wrote:

> Peggy

> My heart goes out to you for what the poison has

> done to your life.

> I can't tell you how long it will take and the only

> suggestion I can

> give you is to see if he will try Noni Juice. I

> don't know for sure

> it works but I was told about it by Dr Ann Blake

> . I think she

> said about a cup a day. I will warn you it is a

> little bit expensive

> and it tastes NASTY. I also must say I'm proud of

> you for seeking

> the truth and standing by him. Did the Dr that

> prescribed the Zoloft

> know about the other episode? Has he been checked

> for a sleeping

> disorder? There is an article here somewhere about

> sleeping

> disorders and ADHD.

>

> Charlie

>

>

>

> > I just don't know where to turn at this point. I

> am 53yrs living

> > wihth boyfriend 17yrs. Both of us raising my now

> 10.5 year old

> > granddaghter since she was 2. My boyfirend has

> ADHD. 9 years ago

> they

> > put him on a tricyclic antidepressant and he went

> manic. The psych

> > would not talk with me and he did not see it

> during med checks. My

> > boyfriend who is a hard worker, much a home body,

> doesn't drink,

> or

> > go out. Last time he was drinking, met a girl.His

> behavior was

> crazy,

> > buying, going out, telling me I was old, he wanted

> children etc

> etc.

> > When I finally convinced the psych to really talk

> with him he

> > realized he was infact manic, took him off the

> meds and he came

> down.

> > It was two months of hell. It is happening again.

> He has known

> this

> > women for only three weeks, has been spending

> nights, wants me and

> my

> > grandtr out of the house he wants to be free. He

> did realize on

> some

> > level what was happenng and went off the meds cold

> turkey. That is

> > when he really went manic. He has been off now for

> three weeks. He

> is

> > very agitated, major panic attacks. He associates

> the anxiety with

> me

> > and graddtr cause thats where he first experienced

> it. Does anyone

> > know how long it will take for this drug to clear

> his system. I am

> > not sure but I think it was about two to three

> weeks the last

> time.

> > He was on a tricyclic the last time. This time it

> was SSRI Zoloft

> > which I heard is worse. Tomorrow will be three

> weeks. He did come

> > home last night. He said it was the first night he

> has been able

> to

> > sleep in a long time. I think he may be comng down

> but not sure.

> He

> > is claiming he is sleeping on this womens couch

> and has not had

> sex

> > with her. Sometimes he seems in touch, but other

> times he is very

> > agitated. Blames me for everything, then cries and

> tells me he

> does

> > not want me to leave. he is living his life

> through music. Very

> much

> > the same behavior as last time. I am trying not to

> challenge him,

> and

> > let him know he is safe at home. can anyone advise

> me. Dear God I

> > slept with him last night and I am terrified now.

> I felt like if I

> > rejected him it would push him further away.

> please help anyone.

> The

> > VA psych RN that prescribed this shit will not

> call me back after

> I

> > told her she was responsible. I know for a fact my

> boyfiend signed

> a

> > release for her to talk with me cause he told me

> he did. He has

> never

> > been manic in his life except for these two times

> both while on

> > antidepressants. There is no doubt this is

> chemical induced mania.

> I

> > know I may be rambling but I feel manic sometimes

> myself. These

> two

> > weeks have seemed like ten years.

> > Peggy

>

>

>

>

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Jim,

The last time this happened (9yrs) ago he went off the tricyclic and

had no problem. This is very different. I am also concerned because

he has been on valium, and Xanax for years. I am suspicious of the

oxicodiene they put him on as well. In fact I think it was the pain

killer and the benzo's that caused his depression in the first place.

The thought did cross my mind that there may be permanent damage here

as well. If fact I think his constant battle wiht anxiety was becasue

of the benzo rebound effect. Is this waht you call self fulfilling

prophecy. There is another problem I failed to mention. The

granddatr I have guardianship of Father and girlfriend want to take

guardianship back. My son is a two time felon, His girlfriend is very

violent. He is also an alcholic not in recovery. They took me to

court a few months ago to terminate the guardianship. My sons lawler

told him to drop the cse and wait till they get married and he is off

orobation. They are getting married tomorrow. I am scared to death if

all of this blows up that the court will look at the two parent

household and think that is the more stable place for her. If my son

and his girlfriend get her they will leave the state. My son does not

really want her. Its the controlling girlfriend. Three moenths ago

my boyfirend paid out thousands for an attorney. Three weeks ago he

told our neighbor he will neverr let my son get my granddtr. He is

the one that raised her. Now three weeks later he wants us both gone

and wants to spen the rest of his life with this women.

Peggy

> > > I just don't know where to turn at this point. I

> > am 53yrs living

> > > wihth boyfriend 17yrs. Both of us raising my now

> > 10.5 year old

> > > granddaghter since she was 2. My boyfirend has

> > ADHD. 9 years ago

> > they

> > > put him on a tricyclic antidepressant and he went

> > manic. The psych

> > > would not talk with me and he did not see it

> > during med checks. My

> > > boyfriend who is a hard worker, much a home body,

> > doesn't drink,

> > or

> > > go out. Last time he was drinking, met a girl.His

> > behavior was

> > crazy,

> > > buying, going out, telling me I was old, he wanted

> > children etc

> > etc.

> > > When I finally convinced the psych to really talk

> > with him he

> > > realized he was infact manic, took him off the

> > meds and he came

> > down.

> > > It was two months of hell. It is happening again.

> > He has known

> > this

> > > women for only three weeks, has been spending

> > nights, wants me and

> > my

> > > grandtr out of the house he wants to be free. He

> > did realize on

> > some

> > > level what was happenng and went off the meds cold

> > turkey. That is

> > > when he really went manic. He has been off now for

> > three weeks. He

> > is

> > > very agitated, major panic attacks. He associates

> > the anxiety with

> > me

> > > and graddtr cause thats where he first experienced

> > it. Does anyone

> > > know how long it will take for this drug to clear

> > his system. I am

> > > not sure but I think it was about two to three

> > weeks the last

> > time.

> > > He was on a tricyclic the last time. This time it

> > was SSRI Zoloft

> > > which I heard is worse. Tomorrow will be three

> > weeks. He did come

> > > home last night. He said it was the first night he

> > has been able

> > to

> > > sleep in a long time. I think he may be comng down

> > but not sure.

> > He

> > > is claiming he is sleeping on this womens couch

> > and has not had

> > sex

> > > with her. Sometimes he seems in touch, but other

> > times he is very

> > > agitated. Blames me for everything, then cries and

> > tells me he

> > does

> > > not want me to leave. he is living his life

> > through music. Very

> > much

> > > the same behavior as last time. I am trying not to

> > challenge him,

> > and

> > > let him know he is safe at home. can anyone advise

> > me. Dear God I

> > > slept with him last night and I am terrified now.

> > I felt like if I

> > > rejected him it would push him further away.

> > please help anyone.

> > The

> > > VA psych RN that prescribed this shit will not

> > call me back after

> > I

> > > told her she was responsible. I know for a fact my

> > boyfiend signed

> > a

> > > release for her to talk with me cause he told me

> > he did. He has

> > never

> > > been manic in his life except for these two times

> > both while on

> > > antidepressants. There is no doubt this is

> > chemical induced mania.

> > I

> > > know I may be rambling but I feel manic sometimes

> > myself. These

> > two

> > > weeks have seemed like ten years.

> > > Peggy

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Jim,

The last time this happened (9yrs) ago he went off the tricyclic and

had no problem. This is very different. I am also concerned because

he has been on valium, and Xanax for years. I am suspicious of the

oxicodiene they put him on as well. In fact I think it was the pain

killer and the benzo's that caused his depression in the first place.

The thought did cross my mind that there may be permanent damage here

as well. If fact I think his constant battle wiht anxiety was becasue

of the benzo rebound effect. Is this waht you call self fulfilling

prophecy. There is another problem I failed to mention. The

granddatr I have guardianship of Father and girlfriend want to take

guardianship back. My son is a two time felon, His girlfriend is very

violent. He is also an alcholic not in recovery. They took me to

court a few months ago to terminate the guardianship. My sons lawler

told him to drop the cse and wait till they get married and he is off

orobation. They are getting married tomorrow. I am scared to death if

all of this blows up that the court will look at the two parent

household and think that is the more stable place for her. If my son

and his girlfriend get her they will leave the state. My son does not

really want her. Its the controlling girlfriend. Three moenths ago

my boyfirend paid out thousands for an attorney. Three weeks ago he

told our neighbor he will neverr let my son get my granddtr. He is

the one that raised her. Now three weeks later he wants us both gone

and wants to spen the rest of his life with this women.

Peggy

> > > I just don't know where to turn at this point. I

> > am 53yrs living

> > > wihth boyfriend 17yrs. Both of us raising my now

> > 10.5 year old

> > > granddaghter since she was 2. My boyfirend has

> > ADHD. 9 years ago

> > they

> > > put him on a tricyclic antidepressant and he went

> > manic. The psych

> > > would not talk with me and he did not see it

> > during med checks. My

> > > boyfriend who is a hard worker, much a home body,

> > doesn't drink,

> > or

> > > go out. Last time he was drinking, met a girl.His

> > behavior was

> > crazy,

> > > buying, going out, telling me I was old, he wanted

> > children etc

> > etc.

> > > When I finally convinced the psych to really talk

> > with him he

> > > realized he was infact manic, took him off the

> > meds and he came

> > down.

> > > It was two months of hell. It is happening again.

> > He has known

> > this

> > > women for only three weeks, has been spending

> > nights, wants me and

> > my

> > > grandtr out of the house he wants to be free. He

> > did realize on

> > some

> > > level what was happenng and went off the meds cold

> > turkey. That is

> > > when he really went manic. He has been off now for

> > three weeks. He

> > is

> > > very agitated, major panic attacks. He associates

> > the anxiety with

> > me

> > > and graddtr cause thats where he first experienced

> > it. Does anyone

> > > know how long it will take for this drug to clear

> > his system. I am

> > > not sure but I think it was about two to three

> > weeks the last

> > time.

> > > He was on a tricyclic the last time. This time it

> > was SSRI Zoloft

> > > which I heard is worse. Tomorrow will be three

> > weeks. He did come

> > > home last night. He said it was the first night he

> > has been able

> > to

> > > sleep in a long time. I think he may be comng down

> > but not sure.

> > He

> > > is claiming he is sleeping on this womens couch

> > and has not had

> > sex

> > > with her. Sometimes he seems in touch, but other

> > times he is very

> > > agitated. Blames me for everything, then cries and

> > tells me he

> > does

> > > not want me to leave. he is living his life

> > through music. Very

> > much

> > > the same behavior as last time. I am trying not to

> > challenge him,

> > and

> > > let him know he is safe at home. can anyone advise

> > me. Dear God I

> > > slept with him last night and I am terrified now.

> > I felt like if I

> > > rejected him it would push him further away.

> > please help anyone.

> > The

> > > VA psych RN that prescribed this shit will not

> > call me back after

> > I

> > > told her she was responsible. I know for a fact my

> > boyfiend signed

> > a

> > > release for her to talk with me cause he told me

> > he did. He has

> > never

> > > been manic in his life except for these two times

> > both while on

> > > antidepressants. There is no doubt this is

> > chemical induced mania.

> > I

> > > know I may be rambling but I feel manic sometimes

> > myself. These

> > two

> > > weeks have seemed like ten years.

> > > Peggy

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Jim,

The last time this happened (9yrs) ago he went off the tricyclic and

had no problem. This is very different. I am also concerned because

he has been on valium, and Xanax for years. I am suspicious of the

oxicodiene they put him on as well. In fact I think it was the pain

killer and the benzo's that caused his depression in the first place.

The thought did cross my mind that there may be permanent damage here

as well. If fact I think his constant battle wiht anxiety was becasue

of the benzo rebound effect. Is this waht you call self fulfilling

prophecy. There is another problem I failed to mention. The

granddatr I have guardianship of Father and girlfriend want to take

guardianship back. My son is a two time felon, His girlfriend is very

violent. He is also an alcholic not in recovery. They took me to

court a few months ago to terminate the guardianship. My sons lawler

told him to drop the cse and wait till they get married and he is off

orobation. They are getting married tomorrow. I am scared to death if

all of this blows up that the court will look at the two parent

household and think that is the more stable place for her. If my son

and his girlfriend get her they will leave the state. My son does not

really want her. Its the controlling girlfriend. Three moenths ago

my boyfirend paid out thousands for an attorney. Three weeks ago he

told our neighbor he will neverr let my son get my granddtr. He is

the one that raised her. Now three weeks later he wants us both gone

and wants to spen the rest of his life with this women.

Peggy

> > > I just don't know where to turn at this point. I

> > am 53yrs living

> > > wihth boyfriend 17yrs. Both of us raising my now

> > 10.5 year old

> > > granddaghter since she was 2. My boyfirend has

> > ADHD. 9 years ago

> > they

> > > put him on a tricyclic antidepressant and he went

> > manic. The psych

> > > would not talk with me and he did not see it

> > during med checks. My

> > > boyfriend who is a hard worker, much a home body,

> > doesn't drink,

> > or

> > > go out. Last time he was drinking, met a girl.His

> > behavior was

> > crazy,

> > > buying, going out, telling me I was old, he wanted

> > children etc

> > etc.

> > > When I finally convinced the psych to really talk

> > with him he

> > > realized he was infact manic, took him off the

> > meds and he came

> > down.

> > > It was two months of hell. It is happening again.

> > He has known

> > this

> > > women for only three weeks, has been spending

> > nights, wants me and

> > my

> > > grandtr out of the house he wants to be free. He

> > did realize on

> > some

> > > level what was happenng and went off the meds cold

> > turkey. That is

> > > when he really went manic. He has been off now for

> > three weeks. He

> > is

> > > very agitated, major panic attacks. He associates

> > the anxiety with

> > me

> > > and graddtr cause thats where he first experienced

> > it. Does anyone

> > > know how long it will take for this drug to clear

> > his system. I am

> > > not sure but I think it was about two to three

> > weeks the last

> > time.

> > > He was on a tricyclic the last time. This time it

> > was SSRI Zoloft

> > > which I heard is worse. Tomorrow will be three

> > weeks. He did come

> > > home last night. He said it was the first night he

> > has been able

> > to

> > > sleep in a long time. I think he may be comng down

> > but not sure.

> > He

> > > is claiming he is sleeping on this womens couch

> > and has not had

> > sex

> > > with her. Sometimes he seems in touch, but other

> > times he is very

> > > agitated. Blames me for everything, then cries and

> > tells me he

> > does

> > > not want me to leave. he is living his life

> > through music. Very

> > much

> > > the same behavior as last time. I am trying not to

> > challenge him,

> > and

> > > let him know he is safe at home. can anyone advise

> > me. Dear God I

> > > slept with him last night and I am terrified now.

> > I felt like if I

> > > rejected him it would push him further away.

> > please help anyone.

> > The

> > > VA psych RN that prescribed this shit will not

> > call me back after

> > I

> > > told her she was responsible. I know for a fact my

> > boyfiend signed

> > a

> > > release for her to talk with me cause he told me

> > he did. He has

> > never

> > > been manic in his life except for these two times

> > both while on

> > > antidepressants. There is no doubt this is

> > chemical induced mania.

> > I

> > > know I may be rambling but I feel manic sometimes

> > myself. These

> > two

> > > weeks have seemed like ten years.

> > > Peggy

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Jim,

The last time this happened (9yrs) ago he went off the tricyclic and

had no problem. This is very different. I am also concerned because

he has been on valium, and Xanax for years. I am suspicious of the

oxicodiene they put him on as well. In fact I think it was the pain

killer and the benzo's that caused his depression in the first place.

The thought did cross my mind that there may be permanent damage here

as well. If fact I think his constant battle wiht anxiety was becasue

of the benzo rebound effect. Is this waht you call self fulfilling

prophecy. There is another problem I failed to mention. The

granddatr I have guardianship of Father and girlfriend want to take

guardianship back. My son is a two time felon, His girlfriend is very

violent. He is also an alcholic not in recovery. They took me to

court a few months ago to terminate the guardianship. My sons lawler

told him to drop the cse and wait till they get married and he is off

orobation. They are getting married tomorrow. I am scared to death if

all of this blows up that the court will look at the two parent

household and think that is the more stable place for her. If my son

and his girlfriend get her they will leave the state. My son does not

really want her. Its the controlling girlfriend. Three moenths ago

my boyfirend paid out thousands for an attorney. Three weeks ago he

told our neighbor he will neverr let my son get my granddtr. He is

the one that raised her. Now three weeks later he wants us both gone

and wants to spen the rest of his life with this women.

Peggy

> > > I just don't know where to turn at this point. I

> > am 53yrs living

> > > wihth boyfriend 17yrs. Both of us raising my now

> > 10.5 year old

> > > granddaghter since she was 2. My boyfirend has

> > ADHD. 9 years ago

> > they

> > > put him on a tricyclic antidepressant and he went

> > manic. The psych

> > > would not talk with me and he did not see it

> > during med checks. My

> > > boyfriend who is a hard worker, much a home body,

> > doesn't drink,

> > or

> > > go out. Last time he was drinking, met a girl.His

> > behavior was

> > crazy,

> > > buying, going out, telling me I was old, he wanted

> > children etc

> > etc.

> > > When I finally convinced the psych to really talk

> > with him he

> > > realized he was infact manic, took him off the

> > meds and he came

> > down.

> > > It was two months of hell. It is happening again.

> > He has known

> > this

> > > women for only three weeks, has been spending

> > nights, wants me and

> > my

> > > grandtr out of the house he wants to be free. He

> > did realize on

> > some

> > > level what was happenng and went off the meds cold

> > turkey. That is

> > > when he really went manic. He has been off now for

> > three weeks. He

> > is

> > > very agitated, major panic attacks. He associates

> > the anxiety with

> > me

> > > and graddtr cause thats where he first experienced

> > it. Does anyone

> > > know how long it will take for this drug to clear

> > his system. I am

> > > not sure but I think it was about two to three

> > weeks the last

> > time.

> > > He was on a tricyclic the last time. This time it

> > was SSRI Zoloft

> > > which I heard is worse. Tomorrow will be three

> > weeks. He did come

> > > home last night. He said it was the first night he

> > has been able

> > to

> > > sleep in a long time. I think he may be comng down

> > but not sure.

> > He

> > > is claiming he is sleeping on this womens couch

> > and has not had

> > sex

> > > with her. Sometimes he seems in touch, but other

> > times he is very

> > > agitated. Blames me for everything, then cries and

> > tells me he

> > does

> > > not want me to leave. he is living his life

> > through music. Very

> > much

> > > the same behavior as last time. I am trying not to

> > challenge him,

> > and

> > > let him know he is safe at home. can anyone advise

> > me. Dear God I

> > > slept with him last night and I am terrified now.

> > I felt like if I

> > > rejected him it would push him further away.

> > please help anyone.

> > The

> > > VA psych RN that prescribed this shit will not

> > call me back after

> > I

> > > told her she was responsible. I know for a fact my

> > boyfiend signed

> > a

> > > release for her to talk with me cause he told me

> > he did. He has

> > never

> > > been manic in his life except for these two times

> > both while on

> > > antidepressants. There is no doubt this is

> > chemical induced mania.

> > I

> > > know I may be rambling but I feel manic sometimes

> > myself. These

> > two

> > > weeks have seemed like ten years.

> > > Peggy

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hello Everyone,

Glad to be in the group. My son is 4 years old and non-verbal. He has said a

few words, but not everyday. He has been on a gf/cf diet for over one year. He

has been on enzymes for close to the same amount of time. He has been on

several different kinds. He doesn't have a formed stool. I more a stick blob.

A small amount of undigested food appears in the stool. I have changed his

enzyme to Zyme Prime after I started reading DeFelice's book. I don't

think that any natural supplement that I give Cole is going to be truely

effective until his gut is healed. Should I be giving him any other enzyme?

He has been on probotics, but were out at the moment. Do you have a suggestion

as to which one has had good reports. He has tried VSL for a couple of weeks

but I didn't see any difference? Since being on the Zyme Prime his appitite has

increase. Is there something in Zyme Prime that would cause him to eat more?

Your help would be so appreciated.

Thank you,

(Mom to Cole)

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HI, I would add Peptizyde to your enzyme routine now. The increased appetite

is most likely due to the Zyme Prime helping him digest his food more so that

he can eat better.

HTH

Rhonda in CA

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> Hello Everyone,

> Glad to be in the group. My son is 4 years old and non-verbal. He

has said a few words, but not everyday.

What my son needed for language is written here

http://www.danasview.net/issues.htm

>>A small amount of undigested food appears in the stool.

Which foods?

>>I have changed his enzyme to Zyme Prime after I started reading

DeFelice's book. I don't think that any natural supplement that

I give Cole is going to be truely effective until his gut is healed.

Should I be giving him any other enzyme?

Depends on what he eats. You might try adding No-Fenol.

>>Since being on the Zyme Prime his appitite has increase. Is there

something in Zyme Prime that would cause him to eat more?

Does he eat " too much " , or is it an average amount of food?

Dana

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