Re: SCD diet?-Jenn

[Guest guest]

Hi Jenn,

We are no longer using SCD, because we switched to enzymes. I think

we probably should have stayed on SCD a bit longer with the enzymes,

but we have not done it.

My son has OCD/Tourettes. He was 8 when we did the diet--he is 10

now. At that time, he never would play with children outside of our

family. If other children came over, he would play near them, and

talk to his brothers and sisters, but never really interacted with the

other children. After being on SCD for two weeks, I babysat for a

friend. I was so amazed to see actually playing with, and

talking to, the other children! He began interacting with the

children his age at church instead of standing around with his older

siblings. His OCD symptoms also decreased to the point where I'd say

they disappeared. He became more conversational. He would always

talk if you talked to him, or he would ask a question or make a

comment, but he never really had an actual conversation. That has

changed. In fact, his siblings say he now talks too much!! He is not

just in his own little world anymore.

Our biggest problem now is fighting yeast; also, I think he has viral

issues that need to be addressed. So his symptoms tend to come and

go, depending on where we are with those issues.

>

> ,

> Can I ask if you are still doing the SCD? If so, what gains

have you seen after 8 months?If not, why? Thanks for your time

anmswering this. Jenn L

>

>

[Guest guest]

I wanted to ask what SCD did for your little one because even though we have

seen decreased behaviors, one of my biggest hopes is that the diet will help her

talk. I haven't seen it yet. I am thinking the chemical exchange of the

parasites, yeasts, and viral & bacterial infections she has, is actually causing

her language to not come out. What enzymes do you use? I need to get K to eat

whatever she will at this point because she has been stuck on just eating

chicken & eggs for the last 3 months straight. She is also still quite

constipated. I'm sure Kali's ped. GI Dr. will also have some suggestions about

what to use as far as enzymes and supplements go. Thanks . Jenn L

maxhouse8 <maxhouse8@...> wrote: Hi Jenn,

We are no longer using SCD, because we switched to enzymes. I think

we probably should have stayed on SCD a bit longer with the enzymes,

but we have not done it.

My son has OCD/Tourettes. He was 8 when we did the diet--he is 10

now. At that time, he never would play with children outside of our

family. If other children came over, he would play near them, and

talk to his brothers and sisters, but never really interacted with the

other children. After being on SCD for two weeks, I babysat for a

friend. I was so amazed to see actually playing with, and

talking to, the other children! He began interacting with the

children his age at church instead of standing around with his older

siblings. His OCD symptoms also decreased to the point where I'd say

they disappeared. He became more conversational. He would always

talk if you talked to him, or he would ask a question or make a

comment, but he never really had an actual conversation. That has

changed. In fact, his siblings say he now talks too much!! He is not

just in his own little world anymore.

Our biggest problem now is fighting yeast; also, I think he has viral

issues that need to be addressed. So his symptoms tend to come and

go, depending on where we are with those issues.

>

> ,

> Can I ask if you are still doing the SCD? If so, what gains

have you seen after 8 months?If not, why? Thanks for your time

anmswering this. Jenn L

>

>

[Guest guest]

We use Houston's, AFP Peptizide, No Fenol and Zyme Prime--we use the SCD version

of all of these--the capsules. I make chocolate wafers mixed w/enzymes, because

he will not swallow capsules.

We did have the usual regression for a couple of weeks as he adjusted to the

enzymes, but that passed and we saw improvement.

jenn kjhi <help4kali@...> wrote:

What enzymes do you use?

[Guest guest]

Can you please tell me how much of which enzyme you started with first and how

much you are giving now? That seems like quite a lot of enzymes and $. God bless

you! Jenn L

<maxhouse8@...> wrote:

We use Houston's, AFP Peptizide, No Fenol and Zyme Prime--we use the SCD

version of all of these--the capsules. I make chocolate wafers mixed w/enzymes,

because he will not swallow capsules.

We did have the usual regression for a couple of weeks as he adjusted to the

enzymes, but that passed and we saw improvement.

jenn kjhi <help4kali@...> wrote:

What enzymes do you use?

[Guest guest]

> My son has OCD/Tourettes.

For my kids, #2's OCD was viral, and #1's Tourettes was yeast.

Dana

[Guest guest]

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>

>> My son has OCD/Tourettes.

>

>

>For my kids, #2's OCD was viral, and #1's Tourettes was yeast.

>

Dana,

How did you figure out that #2's OCD was viral? And did you use ViraStop to

treat it?

TIA!

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg

Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

http://www.westonaprice.org

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“The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause

heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times.” --

Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt

University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

<http://www.thincs.org>

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[Guest guest]

Yes, I think we have both--the Tourettes symptoms have actually been gone for

some time now, but the OCD pops up off and on. Hoping to address the viral

next.

danasview <danasview@...> wrote:

> My son has OCD/Tourettes.

For my kids, #2's OCD was viral, and #1's Tourettes was yeast.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> >For my kids, #2's OCD was viral, and #1's Tourettes was yeast.

>

> How did you figure out that #2's OCD was viral? And did you use

ViraStop to

> treat it?

When I gave OLE, the OCD disappeared.

I use OLE primarily, and recently added ViraStop with even greater

success.

Dana

[Guest guest]

>-----Original Message-----

>From:

>[mailto: ]On Behalf Of danasview

>

>When I gave OLE, the OCD disappeared.

Thanks Dana. Would you mind sharing which OLE product you used?

>

>I use OLE primarily, and recently added ViraStop with even greater

>success.

Wonderful! Thanks for the info!

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg

Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

http://www.westonaprice.org

----------------------------

“The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause

heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times.” --

Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt

University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

<http://www.thincs.org>

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[Guest guest]

We started with all three Houston's enzymes, asking for the SCD version in each

one. We began with half a capsule of each with each meal/snack. We worked up

to a full capsule of each at each meal/snack. We have been using them for two

years, and no longer give them every time he eats something. At first I always

mixed them in juice because he will not swallow capsules (part of the OCD

thing). For about the last two months I've been mixing them in melted

chocalate and making wafers. I've found that they seem to be more effective

this way, even though he is no longer getting a full capsule's worth in each

wafer. I will mix about 8 capsules of each enzyme in the chocolate, and usually

end up with 12 to 15 wafers.

It did seem like a lot of money at first, but eating the SCD diet was very

expensive, as we are a family of 6, and we do not eat any conventionally raised

beef, in order to avoid the effects of the hormones on my daughters. We do not

get all our food from health food stores, but I do spend quite a bit there every

two weeks. Also, at the time we started the SCD, we were spending a lot on many

different supplements for my son, most of which we were able to discontinue

after starting enzymes.

We also always avoid high fructose corn syrup, hydrogenated oils, and

monosodium glutamate (MSG). MSG causes extreme rage behavior in my son. So in

order to avoid those things, we already spend more than ordinary--in the long

run, the monthly amount on enzymes is less than the additional costs incurred

eating SCD. Also, it is nice to be able to order a pizza sometimes!

I'm going to try Olive leaf extract and virastop on him next, to see if we can

eliminate the OCD. Even though it is very mild now, there are days when it

flares up. Since his biggest behavior is having to touch siblings (and

sometimes Mom), the entire family would like to see it go away.

jenn kjhi <help4kali@...> wrote:

Can you please tell me how much of which enzyme you started with first and how

much you are giving now? That seems like quite a lot of enzymes and $. God bless

you! Jenn L

[Guest guest]

,

So enzymes, supplements and SCD were the only things you were doing with

him? I'm just wondering if you were using ooo, gse, or coconut oil at all while

you were doing these? Jenn L

Maxwell <maxhouse8@...> wrote:

We started with all three Houston's enzymes, asking for the SCD version in

each one. We began with half a capsule of each with each meal/snack. We worked

up to a full capsule of each at each meal/snack. We have been using them for

two years, and no longer give them every time he eats something. At first I

always mixed them in juice because he will not swallow capsules (part of the OCD

thing). For about the last two months I've been mixing them in melted

chocalate and making wafers. I've found that they seem to be more effective

this way, even though he is no longer getting a full capsule's worth in each

wafer. I will mix about 8 capsules of each enzyme in the chocolate, and usually

end up with 12 to 15 wafers.

It did seem like a lot of money at first, but eating the SCD diet was very

expensive, as we are a family of 6, and we do not eat any conventionally raised

beef, in order to avoid the effects of the hormones on my daughters. We do not

get all our food from health food stores, but I do spend quite a bit there every

two weeks. Also, at the time we started the SCD, we were spending a lot on many

different supplements for my son, most of which we were able to discontinue

after starting enzymes.

We also always avoid high fructose corn syrup, hydrogenated oils, and

monosodium glutamate (MSG). MSG causes extreme rage behavior in my son. So in

order to avoid those things, we already spend more than ordinary--in the long

run, the monthly amount on enzymes is less than the additional costs incurred

eating SCD. Also, it is nice to be able to order a pizza sometimes!

I'm going to try Olive leaf extract and virastop on him next, to see if we can

eliminate the OCD. Even though it is very mild now, there are days when it

flares up. Since his biggest behavior is having to touch siblings (and

sometimes Mom), the entire family would like to see it go away.

jenn kjhi <help4kali@...> wrote:

Can you please tell me how much of which enzyme you started with first and how

much you are giving now? That seems like quite a lot of enzymes and $. God bless

you! Jenn L

[Guest guest]

No, I did not use any of these until recently, with the exception of OoO, which

our family always uses whenever we get sick. That was the only thing we used it

for back then. It was not until I joined this list in late 05 that I knew

about using OoO or GSE for his symptoms.

jenn kjhi <help4kali@...> wrote:

,

So enzymes, supplements and SCD were the only things you were doing with

him? I'm just wondering if you were using ooo, gse, or coconut oil at all while

you were doing these? Jenn L

[Guest guest]

> >When I gave OLE, the OCD disappeared.

>

> Thanks Dana. Would you mind sharing which OLE product you used?

I use Natural Factors brand, from my local health food store. I buy

it as 500mg capsules.

Dana