Guest guest Posted January 13, 2006 Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 When my son has yeast, he also does this - usually only after school from about 5-6, and late at night. If I give him Nystatin and make him stop playing online e-cards, he usually stops, but stays hyper for awhile longer. His teacher has only reported this once in 2 years at school but he has yeast all the time so he does appear to have some ability to contain it, or possibly it flares up at certain points during the day consistently? Amy > > I noticed the last few days (at least 3-5) that Ronan starts his > continuous (and to me, annoying) laughing at about the same time each > day. It also starts up each night about the same time. In the > morning, it's usually as we drive to his center...and after a mad dash > to get 3 kids rushed into the car and to school on time. In the > evening, he usually starts laughing after dinner, during the last hour > of playtime or right as we get ready for bed. > > We really haven't changed anything food-wise. I did start adding > ProEFA last week but only every 2 days. At night, the laughing ends > within 1 to 2 hours after we get everyone to bed. At school, the > teacher say Ronan does laugh appropriately, not like the yeast > overgrowth one that just keeps going on and on and on. > > What do you think it is? We did have food infractions a week ago and > saw the rash, chicken bumps, restless sleep but I thought that would > be out of his system (we ate a Chik-fil-a...we'll NEVER do that again!) > > Thanks, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 > > I noticed the last few days (at least 3-5) that Ronan starts his > continuous (and to me, annoying) laughing at about the same time each > day. It also starts up each night about the same time. Keep a journal, write down the times of all foods, supplements, medications, therapies, bms, and the laughing. See if it happens at about the same time after the same or similar interventions. In the > morning, it's usually as we drive to his center...and after a mad dash > to get 3 kids rushed into the car and to school on time. In the > evening, he usually starts laughing after dinner, during the last hour > of playtime or right as we get ready for bed. This sounds like something you give at breakfast and dinner. Maybe a certain supplement? Or a certain food or drink you give only 2x per day? Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 Dana, I did start weaning some supplements after hearing a link with carnosine and seizures (we got Ronan's supposed seizure activity eliminated but did just start noticing some eye 'squints' lately. He closes his eyes very tightly and then tilts his head up and then opens his eyes. His original dx was photic driven seizures but he's off all medication except LDN now for 2 months. I do keep a journal of what foods we give/change and what supps were given during the day. I suspect it's the pear juice since Ronan doesn't eat until he arrives at school. The juice has all the goodies in it. At night, Ronan gets a cup of juice before dinner wtih his CLO and probiotic. I think I'll change the drinks to the almond milk for a few days and see if that helps. I did start the no-phenol again so hopefully that helps. We did have to do a round of antibiotics and steroids 2 weeks ago--could this have caused increase in yeast? I always thought it would wipe all of it out. Thanks so much for your advice! > > This sounds like something you give at breakfast and dinner. Maybe a > certain supplement? Or a certain food or drink you give only 2x per day? > > Dana > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 (or anyone else that may know), do eye squints as you explain here indicate seizure activity? My son has been doing the exact same thing of squinting eyes very tightly, tilting head up and then opening eyes again several times a day. This has only just started in the last week or so, the only thing we've changed in the last few weeks is we've introduced enzymes. I thought it was just an adjustment to the enzymes, like a stim of some sort. It seemed to coincide with a few meltdowns he's been having since starting enzymes. Thanks for any advice/info. > I did start weaning some supplements after hearing a link with > carnosine and seizures (we got Ronan's supposed seizure activity > eliminated but did just start noticing some eye 'squints' lately. > He closes his eyes very tightly and then tilts his head up and then > opens his eyes. His original dx was photic driven seizures but he's > off all medication except LDN now for 2 months. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2006 Report Share Posted January 15, 2006 >>did just start noticing some eye 'squints' lately. > He closes his eyes very tightly and then tilts his head up and then > opens his eyes. This was one of my son's visual stims. http://www.danasview.net/issues.htm >>I think I'll change the drinks to the > almond milk for a few days and see if that helps. Sounds like a good idea. >>We did have to do a round > of antibiotics and steroids 2 weeks ago--could this have caused > increase in yeast? Yes, antibiotics tend to increase yeast. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2006 Report Share Posted January 15, 2006 Mihelle, We always though they were associated with the photic-driven absence seizure dx we got back in January 05. We got a second opinion in the fall and that neurologist determined we most likely did NOT see any seizure activity with Ronan's eyes. I bombarded him with questions about why Ronan closes his eyes, why he likes to watch tv so closely and why he seems to have fear of falling occasionally. We'd just seen Dr. Megson 2 days prior and she mentioned Ronan may have 3D processing problems. I had just finished reading a thread on vision therapy on the sensory processing disorder board and wondered if all these signs led to vision issues and not seizure activity. We took Ronan off the antiepileptic drug the first neuro prescribed and continued to do the biomedical/nutritional treatments. We also increased the types of supplements after the DAN! doctor visit while decreasing the med. So far, we've seen amazing growth all around. The kid doesn't stop exploring, he loves to climb where before he had a fear of gravity. Ronan got some senses " back " when he realized a mosquito bit him before our cold snap--a week or two before, Ronan had been bit 2x by a spider and it didn't phase him! It was so painfully gross looking and spreading. Even Ronan's taste buds seemed to wake up as he pushed food away he's been eating for months (the bland GFCF stuff I still don't want to try!) We found a pediatric eye doc who has a clinic each month for special needs kids. The wait was 2 months out but at least he's familiar with sensory issues, ASD, developmental delays, etc. We go the first week of February to see him, followed by our second appt. with Dr. Megson and the new neurologist the next week. Ronan used to have visual stims I guess when he was younger (1 year to 20 months) when he would shake his fingers in front of his eyes. We used to call him Flicky McFlick So Much since he'd try to flick any loose material on the ground like sand, pine straw, mulch, gravel. We stopped seeing that when we took out gluten. Dana sent a link when she replied to my post about possible yeast overgrowth that I need to read. I'm sure she has some great info there for us. Good luck, > > (or anyone else that may know), do eye squints as you explain > here indicate seizure activity? My son has been doing the exact same > thing of squinting eyes very tightly, tilting head up and then opening > eyes again several times a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2006 Report Share Posted January 15, 2006 My daughter does the exact same thing as well. It's kind of sporadic and only happens on days when she isn't tolerating food or a supplement and there is usually a meltdown brewing. Sometimes she'll cover the computer monitor or her eyes. I never even considered seizures. I'd like to hear more as well. She's on numerous enzymes, but not on carnosine. > > (or anyone else that may know), do eye squints as you explain > here indicate seizure activity? My son has been doing the exact same > thing of squinting eyes very tightly, tilting head up and then opening > eyes again several times a day. This has only just started in the last > week or so, the only thing we've changed in the last few weeks is > we've introduced enzymes. I thought it was just an adjustment to the > enzymes, like a stim of some sort. It seemed to coincide with a few > meltdowns he's been having since starting enzymes. > Thanks for any advice/info. > > > > I did start weaning some supplements after hearing a link with > > carnosine and seizures (we got Ronan's supposed seizure activity > > eliminated but did just start noticing some eye 'squints' lately. > > He closes his eyes very tightly and then tilts his head up and then > > opens his eyes. His original dx was photic driven seizures but he's > > off all medication except LDN now for 2 months. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2006 Report Share Posted January 15, 2006 Thanks so much for your detailed reply. I really appreciate it. Regards, We always though they were associated with the photic-driven absence > seizure dx we got back in January 05. We got a second opinion in > the fall and that neurologist determined we most likely did NOT see > any seizure activity with Ronan's eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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