Hi Dana.

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Dana, on Monday, it will be 2 weeks since my son started Nystatin. How

long does it take to firm up his poop ( which is really soft, light

colored mush )if it is going to??

Also, if it is going to help him sleep better at night, how long would

it take to do that? or at this point, should I accept the fact that the

Nystatin won't do either of those things, and I will continue to get no

sleep, and consider his mushy poop to be a food or supplement

intolerance??? Or, does it typically take Nystatin longer to help these?

Thanks. Amber.

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> Dana, on Monday, it will be 2 weeks since my son started Nystatin. How

> long does it take to firm up his poop ( which is really soft, light

> colored mush )if it is going to??

You probably should have seen at least *something* by now, altho I

have read stories from other parents that Nystatin takes months.

> Also, if it is going to help him sleep better at night, how long would

> it take to do that?

Same comment as above.

>>or at this point, should I accept the fact that the

> Nystatin won't do either of those things, and I will continue to get no

> sleep, and consider his mushy poop to be a food or supplement

> intolerance???

Might be intolerance. Might be something like zinc deficiency, which

can cause mushy bms, and it will reduce high copper levels, and high

copper can cause sleep issues. I know parents who have added zinc and

their child's bms improved and the child started sleeping better.

High calcium levels for my son, caused both those problems. So it

might be a deficiency or toxicity, and not a food.

Dana

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> I give him two kirkman zinc capsules a day, one at breakfast, and one at

> lunch. Should I increase that?

How many mg is that? You can increase to child's weight plus 20mg if

desired. So for a 50 pound child, for example, you can increase to

70mg daily zinc.

Dana

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>>Would you recommend the 5-HTP, or slow

> release melatonin, which is another thing we've been considering.

Either of those would be good to consider. I never had to use them

tho, so I can't recommend which one might be more effective. It

probably depends on why exactly he has sleep problems.

Dana

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Hi Dana, I don't know why he has sleep problems, but I sure wish I did. I

thought that diet would help, it didn't-

then I thought that supplements, GSE and OoO, food enzymes, pro-biotics, and

Nystatin would help and none of them have. I would really prefer to find

out the cause and fix it as opposed to putting a band-aid on it, like the

5-HTP or melatonin, but I don't know what to do from here. I'm broke and

tired and more confused than ever. Every night I take him for at least a 1/2

hour long walk hoping the excercise and fresh air will help. I feed him

protein in the morning and carbs for supper like the Dr. told us. I've tried

everything that I've heard of and I don't know what to do now. Thanks.

Amber.

On 1/15/06, danasview <danasview@...> wrote:

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> >>Would you recommend the 5-HTP, or slow

> > release melatonin, which is another thing we've been considering.

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> Either of those would be good to consider. I never had to use them

> tho, so I can't recommend which one might be more effective. It

> probably depends on why exactly he has sleep problems.

>

> Dana

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> Hi Dana, I don't know why he has sleep problems, but I sure wish I did.

Have you ever consider bad bacteria or virus issues? When my son's

other issues were gone, those issues did cause some amount of sleep

disorder. You can try giving him OLE, which will address both.

>>I would really prefer to find

> out the cause and fix it as opposed to putting a band-aid on it,

like the

> 5-HTP or melatonin, but I don't know what to do from here.

I can certainly understand why you want to find the cause. However,

maybe a bandaid fix for now would be good for your own sleep deprivation!

>>I feed him

> protein in the morning and carbs for supper like the Dr. told us.

Switch these. Give him the protein at night, see if that helps.

Dana

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> Hi Dana, I have heard of olive leaf extract, but don't know much

about it.

> Right now, I do give him GSE, rotated every 4 days with oil of

oregano. Do

> you recommend a certain brand from the health food store, or are

they all

> the same.

Well, I use Natural Factors olive leaf extract, from my local health

food store.

>>I give the GSE and OoO in the morning, would that be when I would

> give the OLE as well,

I give almost everything at the same time, including OLE and GSE [when

I needed GSE].

>> and how much would you say to start with- and do you

> give it every day??

I started all four of my kids with 250mg, and worked up from there.

#1 and #4 take it 1x per day. #3 takes it 2-3x per day. #2 takes it

3x per day at very high doses.

On another message board, a parent once posted that giving her son B6

finally got him to sleep, but she had to be very careful of the

timing, because if she gave it after about 4pm, he was wired much of

the night. But have you tried B vitamins in the morning, to see if

that helped?

Dana

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Yes, he gets 1 B-Complex from kirkman a day first thing in the morning. The

one I was concerned about was the OoO. I talked to a girl from the health

food store yesterday, and she said that OoO and OLE are the same thing, and

she didn't know if you should give them at the same time. Right now I rotate

the GSE and the OoO every 4 days- I was thinking of replacing the OoO with

OLE, but then he would only be getting the OLE every 4 days, would that be

enough, or does he need it every day? Thanks. Amber.

On 1/17/06, danasview <danasview@...> wrote:

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> > Hi Dana, I have heard of olive leaf extract, but don't know much

> about it.

> > Right now, I do give him GSE, rotated every 4 days with oil of

> oregano. Do

> > you recommend a certain brand from the health food store, or are

> they all

> > the same.

>

>

> Well, I use Natural Factors olive leaf extract, from my local health

> food store.

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> >>I give the GSE and OoO in the morning, would that be when I would

> > give the OLE as well,

>

>

> I give almost everything at the same time, including OLE and GSE [when

> I needed GSE].

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> >> and how much would you say to start with- and do you

> > give it every day??

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> I started all four of my kids with 250mg, and worked up from there.

> #1 and #4 take it 1x per day. #3 takes it 2-3x per day. #2 takes it

> 3x per day at very high doses.

>

> On another message board, a parent once posted that giving her son B6

> finally got him to sleep, but she had to be very careful of the

> timing, because if she gave it after about 4pm, he was wired much of

> the night. But have you tried B vitamins in the morning, to see if

> that helped?

>

> Dana

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> one I was concerned about was the OoO. I talked to a girl from the

health

> food store yesterday, and she said that OoO and OLE are the same thing,

The same thing? Never mind that one is oregano and the other is

grapefruit?

My son did not tolerate OoO, but he does really well with GSE.

and

> she didn't know if you should give them at the same time.

You probably can, altho that would be some serious yeast killing activity!

>> Right now I rotate

> the GSE and the OoO every 4 days-

This is probably a good idea.

I was thinking of replacing the OoO with

> OLE, but then he would only be getting the OLE every 4 days, would

that be

> enough, or does he need it every day?

To fight viruses, I have to give OLE 3x per day, or with certain of my

kids 1-2x per day is sufficient. Skipping days does not work.

Dana

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Hope you don't mind me cutting in, my son justin also has sleep problems, since

he was 21/2 years old. doctor said try benedryl. it cause drowsiness, that

worked for awhile, then he would wake up in the middle of the night and won't go

back to sleep. so I took him back for the sleep problem, he come to realize this

is getting serious if we didn't take care of it, he would have suffer from sleep

deprivation, and also me and my daughter. so he prescibed clonidine, 0.1 mg. he

takes a whole one at night, mixed in his drink around 7:30 takes 40 to 50

minutes before it starts to work, and then he is ready to sleep. very few times

he will wake up. but like he use to. I even tried to wean him off a year ago

around christmas holidays since they had a long holiday from school, it was the

worst, i couldn't get him to go to bed, took a long time for him to sleep.he is

also taking aricept. so I went to talk to a pharmacist, since he knows what meds

my son is on, I wanted to use over

the counter sleep aid, but it has dipenhydramine, which he cannot take due to

the aricept.but herbal supplement allura, we did try, it stunk, it suppose to

calm and help you get to sleep it work alittle, but has a bad odor. so I put him

back on clonidine, i was thinking of melatonin, but that is only a temporary

fix, and not a long time fix,I am still doing research on supplements of what

will help him sleep and thru the night and take him off clonidine but no such

luck,I know you may not want to go that route. but if your child does not get

enough sleep he or she will suffer from sleep deprivation. good luck, hope you

will find something that will work without medication for it. when you do find

it please let me know.good luck to you.annette Annette & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;Would you

recommend the 5-HTP, or slow & gt; & gt; release melatonin, which is another thing

we've been considering. & gt; & gt; & gt; Either of those would be good to consider.

I never had to use them & gt; tho, so I can't recommend which one might be more

effective. It & gt; probably depends on why exactly he has sleep

problems. & gt; & gt; Dana & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;