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kennetheriklucy <eislerfamily@...> wrote:

I am calling on your help and advice for me, this time.

Could anyone please suggest to me something for depression?

I find myself to be very depressed, anxious, and irritable lately.

I heard that vita. B helps, so I've been taking one of my son's B-

complex everyday, but it's not helping.

Thanks, everyone. Amber.

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When this hit me about 5 years ago (In addition to the sx's you

mention, I was also having difficulty sleeping normally), I began

taking flaxseed oil capsules AM & PM at someone's recommendation and

found that it relieved my symptoms very well. (Now with the lengthy

thread about EFA's that I've been unsuccessfully trying to follow, I

count myself fortunate! Actually, I suspect my natural estrogen

levels began falling off as I was in my mid-30's when this

supposedly begins to happen and flax is supposed to be helpful that

way) But I have since replaced the flax with purified fish oil caps

and still find myself holding steady for the most part. I could

always tell when I hadn't had enough sleep though, because that's

the one time that I would start feeling those things again and after

I got adequate rest, I would feel fine again.

Hope something in my own experience helps!

~Grace

> kennetheriklucy <eislerfamily@g...> wrote:

> I am calling on your help and advice for me, this time.

> Could anyone please suggest to me something for depression?

> I find myself to be very depressed, anxious, and irritable lately.

> I heard that vita. B helps, so I've been taking one of my son's B-

> complex everyday, but it's not helping.

> Thanks, everyone. Amber.

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YEAH for happy tears!!!

I just bought that today, wanting to try it with all of us. How are you

giving it to your daughter? I haven't tried it yet to see how it tastes. I am

hoping I can mix it in ketchup or something similar?

So glad you found something that is working so well. My chiro has been after

me to try this stuff for awile now.

Fingers crossed for my gang,

Kari Trautman <karitrautman@...> wrote:

Seeing this post just makes me have to respond. It might be premature, but 3

days into a new supplement and I swear for the first time I am really see

something that I almost want to cry (happy tears :) My daughter is not

autistic, however has been highly sensitive to things and is learning disabled

largely due to her memory issues and brain fog. Along with a very restrictive

diet. Even at 9 her hormones are out of whack which explains some of the

emotional roller coasters. She is such a classic person that should respond

well to B's and EFA's. But B's just made her hyper, and after using an

expensive EFA for 4 months realized it did nothing, along with all other stuff I

tried. The other day my friend who is in a similar boat insisted I try her on

lecithin. This is doing something, something very wonderful, like it is giving

her brain a boast. Then I'm finding it might be a key to enabling the EFA's,

which might explain why our attempt at utilizing the EFA's in the past

failed. Tomorrow introducing COL too. We'll see.

But doing a little research shows for some lecithin and the EFA's really do

wonders for the brain; depression; anxiety. I guess if depends on whether or

not this deficiency is the root, but seems like something easy to try. We're

using the granules, which seems to be recommended. Here's an article from Diane

Craft who has done wonders for children with ADD/ADHD.

Good luck!

Kari

http://www.diannecraft.com/memory1.html

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I don't think it tastes too bad, but kids might. I put it in a smoothie and

only need a little bit, or pear sauce. I always like the breaking it up into

two doses for starters. I'm doing 2 teaspoons twice a day, she's 9 and 60 lbs.

FYI smoothie's for us is just frozen raspberries; rice milk; water; and some

stevia, so easy. Does your chiro want you to do EFA's too? Maybe try it without

and then with, and see if either work. Hope so!!!

Kari

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YEAH for happy tears!!!

I just bought that today, wanting to try it with all of us. How are you

giving it to your daughter? I haven't tried it yet to see how it tastes. I am

hoping I can mix it in ketchup or something similar?

So glad you found something that is working so well. My chiro has been

after me to try this stuff for awile now.

Fingers crossed for my gang,

Kari Trautman <karitrautman@...> wrote:

Seeing this post just makes me have to respond. It might be premature, but

3 days into a new supplement and I swear for the first time I am really see

something that I almost want to cry (happy tears :) My daughter is not

autistic, however has been highly sensitive to things and is learning disabled

largely due to her memory issues and brain fog. Along with a very restrictive

diet. Even at 9 her hormones are out of whack which explains some of the

emotional roller coasters. She is such a classic person that should respond

well to B's and EFA's. But B's just made her hyper, and after using an

expensive EFA for 4 months realized it did nothing, along with all other stuff I

tried. The other day my friend who is in a similar boat insisted I try her on

lecithin. This is doing something, something very wonderful, like it is giving

her brain a boast. Then I'm finding it might be a key to enabling the EFA's,

which might explain why our attempt at utilizing the EFA's in the past

failed. Tomorrow introducing COL too. We'll see.

But doing a little research shows for some lecithin and the EFA's really do

wonders for the brain; depression; anxiety. I guess if depends on whether or

not this deficiency is the root, but seems like something easy to try. We're

using the granules, which seems to be recommended. Here's an article from Diane

Craft who has done wonders for children with ADD/ADHD.

Good luck!

Kari

http://www.diannecraft.com/memory1.html

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No Fenol. Take one in the morning before you eat anything, and work

up to 1 at least per meal/snack.

Amy

>

> I am calling on your help and advice for me, this time.

> Could anyone please suggest to me something for depression?

> I find myself to be very depressed, anxious, and irritable lately.

> I heard that vita. B helps, so I've been taking one of my son's B-

> complex everyday, but it's not helping.

> Thanks, everyone. Amber.

>

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Lecithin boost estrogen? In what way? I am just about to start this with my

kids and I but I am not wanting to add female hormones to their bodies, that is

why I don't give them soy.

Cj Dir <gstone98@...> wrote:

It boosts estrogen. -GA

>>I try her on lecithin. This is doing something, something very wonderful,

>>like it is giving her brain a boast.

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over 99% of the lecithin used commercially comes from soybeans. Soy boosts

estrogen

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> Lecithin boost estrogen? In what way? I am just about to start this with

> my kids and I but I am not wanting to add female hormones to their bodies,

> that is why I don't give them soy.

>

>

>

> Cj Dir <gstone98@...> wrote:

> It boosts estrogen. -GA

>

>

>>>I try her on lecithin. This is doing something, something very

>>>wonderful,

>>>like it is giving her brain a boast.

>

>

>

>

>

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THANKS! That is an easy way to make smoothies and I generally have all that

stuff. I have an ice cream maker...may have to make really healthy ice cream!

Kari Trautman <karitrautman@...> wrote:

I don't think it tastes too bad, but kids might. I put it in a smoothie and

only need a little bit, or pear sauce. I always like the breaking it up into

two doses for starters. I'm doing 2 teaspoons twice a day, she's 9 and 60 lbs.

FYI smoothie's for us is just frozen raspberries; rice milk; water; and some

stevia, so easy. Does your chiro want you to do EFA's too? Maybe try it without

and then with, and see if either work. Hope so!!!

Kari

Re: help for mom

YEAH for happy tears!!!

I just bought that today, wanting to try it with all of us. How are you

giving it to your daughter? I haven't tried it yet to see how it tastes. I am

hoping I can mix it in ketchup or something similar?

So glad you found something that is working so well. My chiro has been

after me to try this stuff for awile now.

Fingers crossed for my gang,

Kari Trautman <karitrautman@...> wrote:

Seeing this post just makes me have to respond. It might be premature, but

3 days into a new supplement and I swear for the first time I am really see

something that I almost want to cry (happy tears :) My daughter is not

autistic, however has been highly sensitive to things and is learning disabled

largely due to her memory issues and brain fog. Along with a very restrictive

diet. Even at 9 her hormones are out of whack which explains some of the

emotional roller coasters. She is such a classic person that should respond

well to B's and EFA's. But B's just made her hyper, and after using an

expensive EFA for 4 months realized it did nothing, along with all other stuff I

tried. The other day my friend who is in a similar boat insisted I try her on

lecithin. This is doing something, something very wonderful, like it is giving

her brain a boast. Then I'm finding it might be a key to enabling the EFA's,

which might explain why our attempt at utilizing the EFA's in the past

failed. Tomorrow introducing COL too. We'll see.

But doing a little research shows for some lecithin and the EFA's really do

wonders for the brain; depression; anxiety. I guess if depends on whether or

not this deficiency is the root, but seems like something easy to try. We're

using the granules, which seems to be recommended. Here's an article from Diane

Craft who has done wonders for children with ADD/ADHD.

Good luck!

Kari

http://www.diannecraft.com/memory1.html

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Yep, just finished reading the package, only started it at the store. Derived

from soy. Well I guess I will be giving that to just me. Do you know of any

sources that aren't soy derived? I just don't want to give my boys something

that is going to increase female hormones in their body, they haven't even

started puberty yet. Increased estrogens also increases prostate issues for

men. They are young for that of course but if it can cause prostate issues in

older men, what can it do to little boys? Am I making more out of this?

Thanks,

Cj Dir <gstone98@...> wrote:

over 99% of the lecithin used commercially comes from soybeans. Soy boosts

estrogen

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> Lecithin boost estrogen? In what way? I am just about to start this with

> my kids and I but I am not wanting to add female hormones to their bodies,

> that is why I don't give them soy.

>

>

>

> Cj Dir <gstone98@...> wrote:

> It boosts estrogen. -GA

>

>

>>>I try her on lecithin. This is doing something, something very

>>>wonderful,

>>>like it is giving her brain a boast.

>

>

>

>

>

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Amber....have you checked yourself for candida? How are your vit and

mineral levels...how about heavy metals... those sure have caused us a lot of

trouble...esp the candida...

I use B-complex but also needed my candida and allergies to get under

control before a lot of this stuff settled down...

I am giving hubby SAMe for his depression problems...and it seems to help.

I know that there are a lot of things that can cause it....where do you

live....do you take a supplement for vit D....for many of us....winter causes

Seasonal Depression...or SAD....I take D and have lots and Lots of natural

(full)

spectrum florescents. I know that many folks don't like them...but they

have been a real blessing for me...I live in the NW and get months and months

of

gray days sometimes....

Hope you find your answers and here's a sisterly hug and prayer for you!

Ronni

(http://weatherpixie.com/) weather

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eggs and organ meats .

My boys eat some soy, but not a whole lot. On cereal in some foods, etc.,

but not whole glasses to drink, etc.

Lecithin provides choline. You can get choline from other sources.Choline is

precursor for methionine, which many ASD kids are deficient in. My son takes

methionine supplements from Twinlab.

Men & boys have estrogen in their bodies, just as women have testosterone.

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Yep, just finished reading the package, only started it at the store.

Derived from soy. Well I guess I will be giving that to just me. Do you

know of any sources that aren't soy derived? I just don't want to give my

boys something that is going to increase female hormones in their body, they

haven't even started puberty yet. Increased estrogens also increases

prostate issues for men. They are young for that of course but if it can

cause prostate issues in older men, what can it do to little boys? Am I

making more out of this?

Thanks,

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> I am calling on your help and advice for me, this time.

> Could anyone please suggest to me something for depression?

> I find myself to be very depressed, anxious, and irritable lately.

> I heard that vita. B helps, so I've been taking one of my son's B-

> complex everyday, but it's not helping.

I use CLO and B vitamins, plus a few other things. On other message

boards, CLO and other EFAs are often reported as helping with depression.

Dana

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