Re: Overweight child---maybe a little odd on this group but....

[Guest guest]

> I've posted here several times before and I hope for some help once

> again. I have an 8yr old and he's about 90 lbs. Was always big for

> his age now he has a tummy on him that he's never had. Been

> developing for about 2 yrs. Exercise doesn't help. I'm looking into

> the Mito cocktail, thyroid testing, etc. Is there some sort of test

> to do to see if a Mito cocktail would help?

My son had terrible problems with any fats, EFAs, etc. There is

probably a test, but I don't know about it. You can scan this lab's

list of tests, see if it lists one

http://www.greatplainslaboratory.com/

I just started giving the components of mito cocktail, plus I had to

add amino acids especially taurine when the mito cocktail did not

entirely eliminate the problem. Then I had to preload with Omega 6,

before he would tolerate any Omega 3. It was a long process, took

over a year before I could give Omega 3.

Anyway, my #2 was a very fat baby, but slimmed down once I addressed

this problem.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Does it fit the symptoms of yeast? That's the most likely

explanation based on what you described. What are his eating

patterns like - what foods, how often?

What have you tried so far, if anything, and how did it work?

Amy

>

> Hi everyone.

>

> I've posted here several times before and I hope for some help

once

> again. I have an 8yr old and he's about 90 lbs. Was always big

for

> his age now he has a tummy on him that he's never had. Been

> developing for about 2 yrs. Exercise doesn't help. I'm looking

into

> the Mito cocktail, thyroid testing, etc. Is there some sort of

test

> to do to see if a Mito cocktail would help? Should I test the

> thyroid, sugar levels? (both grandfathers have Type II Diabetes)

I am

> considering the blood test for food allergies but am thinking

maybe

> some other tests are more urgently needed. We take melatonin

EVERY

> SINGLE NIGHT to go to sleep. suggested just starting

enzymes

> without checking food allergies also to save dollars which are at

a

> premium in this house since I am a 33 yr old college student.

Anyone

> have an opinion on what to do first?

>

> Thanks.

> April.

> aprilcullins@...

>

[Guest guest]

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Yeast would seem to make sense from what i've read. We have done

samples of AFP Pep and I think that will help him overall. I have

been really embarassed to post his weight because of all the skinny

kids described here. I definitely have an " i'll eat anything kid "

He especially will eat breads, cereal with real milk but also with

almond milk. He had mac 'n cheese today at grandmas and we went to

the grocery right after and you'd think someone gave him speed.

haven't seen that before. He will also eat the good stuff fruits

and veggies. If its there usually he will at least taste it. eats

well at school. he dips everything. he will dip a chip. he will

even act like he is dipping a dry food on a dry food. We do the

melatonin. Taking out gluten didn't seem to do much. We took out

milk but not all dairy and it seemed to help but what has helped

speech is taking out singulair. it was feeding a brain fog. since

then he's been better but at first i thought it was the 1000mcg of

b12 but he doesn't seem effected when i don't give it. we tried

5htp no real reaction. Then doc said we don't need an anti anxiety

med. I feel now its totally behavioral (bm in the potty issue) and

biological. Like diabetes, thyroid, food allergy something of that

nature. I do plan to do oxypowder since it has germanium 132

supposed to inhibit yeast as well as no fenol. we are just so darn

poor with me not working. hard to afford to do a bunch of stuff. i

was grateful sent me her book. I wanted to try coq10 for me

and my son. a fellow poster said that helped out a lot. Well

that's our story. Like Dana's post says maybe I need to try

elements of the mito cocktail. I don't know. I m just glad i feel

i have options.

april.

In , " Amy " <noahsmom7898@...> wrote:

>

> Does it fit the symptoms of yeast? That's the most likely

> explanation based on what you described. What are his eating

> patterns like - what foods, how often?

>

> What have you tried so far, if anything, and how did it work?

>

> Amy

>

>

> >

> > Hi everyone.

> >

> > I've posted here several times before and I hope for some help

> once

> > again. I have an 8yr old and he's about 90 lbs. Was always big

> for

> > his age now he has a tummy on him that he's never had. Been

> > developing for about 2 yrs. Exercise doesn't help. I'm looking

> into

> > the Mito cocktail, thyroid testing, etc. Is there some sort of

> test

> > to do to see if a Mito cocktail would help? Should I test the

> > thyroid, sugar levels? (both grandfathers have Type II

Diabetes)

> I am

> > considering the blood test for food allergies but am thinking

> maybe

> > some other tests are more urgently needed. We take melatonin

> EVERY

> > SINGLE NIGHT to go to sleep. suggested just starting

> enzymes

> > without checking food allergies also to save dollars which are

at

> a

> > premium in this house since I am a 33 yr old college student.

> Anyone

> > have an opinion on what to do first?

> >

> > Thanks.

> > April.

> > aprilcullins@

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> > I've posted here several times before and I hope for some help

once

> > again. I have an 8yr old and he's about 90 lbs. Was always big

for

> > his age now he has a tummy on him that he's never had. Been

> > developing for about 2 yrs. Exercise doesn't help. I'm looking

into

> > the Mito cocktail, thyroid testing, etc. Is there some sort of

test

> > to do to see if a Mito cocktail would help?

>

>

> My son had terrible problems with any fats, EFAs, etc. There is

> probably a test, but I don't know about it. You can scan this

lab's

> list of tests, see if it lists one

>

> http://www.greatplainslaboratory.com/

>

> I just started giving the components of mito cocktail, plus I had

to

> add amino acids especially taurine when the mito cocktail did not

> entirely eliminate the problem. Then I had to preload with Omega

6,

> before he would tolerate any Omega 3. It was a long process, took

> over a year before I could give Omega 3.

>

> Anyway, my #2 was a very fat baby, but slimmed down once I

addressed

> this problem.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

Don't feel bad, I also have an I'll eat anything kid. He drinks the

enzymes and water and loves it. The only thing he hates is

mayonaise. At school in the cafeteria, everyone is only allowed to

go up once, but they let my son go twice ha ha.

> > >

> > > Hi everyone.

> > >

> > > I've posted here several times before and I hope for some help

> > once

> > > again. I have an 8yr old and he's about 90 lbs. Was always

big

> > for

> > > his age now he has a tummy on him that he's never had. Been

> > > developing for about 2 yrs. Exercise doesn't help. I'm

looking

> > into

> > > the Mito cocktail, thyroid testing, etc. Is there some sort

of

> > test

> > > to do to see if a Mito cocktail would help? Should I test the

> > > thyroid, sugar levels? (both grandfathers have Type II

> Diabetes)

> > I am

> > > considering the blood test for food allergies but am thinking

> > maybe

> > > some other tests are more urgently needed. We take melatonin

> > EVERY

> > > SINGLE NIGHT to go to sleep. suggested just starting

> > enzymes

> > > without checking food allergies also to save dollars which are

> at

> > a

> > > premium in this house since I am a 33 yr old college student.

> > Anyone

> > > have an opinion on what to do first?

> > >

> > > Thanks.

> > > April.

> > > aprilcullins@

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Carnitine has been a help to my son for muscle tone issues. Also, does he have

speech problems because many children with Apraxia have muscle tone issues in

their upper body that appear to be simply overweight. This is a neurological

condition and therefore you need a neurologist to dx it and it requires a good

deal of therapy with an experienced SLP, but can be helped by essecntial fatty

acids. Does he get an efa supplement?

Elaine

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[Guest guest]

I hardly ever post.

My son is overweight, will eat anything,and is 'hungry' all the time.

He is now 8 years old and weighs 110lbs. He is four feet tall.

I tried Flax seed oil with him before and he was grumpy (very

uncharacteristic) with it, emotional, etc.

I am always trying to find the magic for him. Most everything works at

first to some degree and then stops working without regression.

I am going to start the Mito cocktail slowly, ingredient by

ingredient.

His only supplements right now are CLO and Cal/Mag/Zinc. The CLO helps

with the side squinting, but doesn't make it go away completely.

Most folks on these groups have skinny, picky kids but mine isn't so I

feel a little on the outside. Nice to know that my son isn't that much

of an enigma.

Danae

[Guest guest]

If it's yeast and/or a food intolerance, he'd eat anything because

he's having food cravings and still feels hungry despite eating. My

son was enormous from gluten intolerance and yeast. By age 2-3 he

was wearing 5T and could only wear overalls because he was too big

for any pants to fit around his waist. He was constantly starving

and would stuff his mouth with anything that had gluten. He can

tolerate gluten with enzymes, technically - the gluten doesn't have

the opiate effect any longer - but it still massively feeds yeast.

We also are dealing with a very low income but the good thing about

yeast is, you don't usually have to buy expensive products. My kids

tolerate Nystatin better than almost anything, which is covered by

insurance, and I use a very strict anti yeast diet of no sugar (I

bake everything myself with stevia) and VERY low wheat. We also

avoid things that feed yeast like corn syrup, and I limit simple

starches as well. My son doesn't drink juice or sweetened milks.

My niece has horrendous yeast and the only symptom for her is

constant eating and she's extremely overweight. I know it's yeast

because I ran a lab through great plains on her, but her parents

don't want to do anything about it because they feel that buying

food for an anti-yeast diet would be too expensive and inconvenient.

The point being, yeast itself can cause overeating and overweight.

I work with adult women all the time who's main symptom of yeast is

constant hunger/eating. Avoiding certain foods that trigger yeast

and overall maintaining a fairly strict diet is unfortunately the

main intervention because giving antifungals while continuing to

feed yeast doesn't work as effectively.

Amy

> > >

> > > Hi everyone.

> > >

> > > I've posted here several times before and I hope for some help

> > once

> > > again. I have an 8yr old and he's about 90 lbs. Was always

big

> > for

> > > his age now he has a tummy on him that he's never had. Been

> > > developing for about 2 yrs. Exercise doesn't help. I'm

looking

> > into

> > > the Mito cocktail, thyroid testing, etc. Is there some sort

of

> > test

> > > to do to see if a Mito cocktail would help? Should I test the

> > > thyroid, sugar levels? (both grandfathers have Type II

> Diabetes)

> > I am

> > > considering the blood test for food allergies but am thinking

> > maybe

> > > some other tests are more urgently needed. We take melatonin

> > EVERY

> > > SINGLE NIGHT to go to sleep. suggested just starting

> > enzymes

> > > without checking food allergies also to save dollars which are

> at

> > a

> > > premium in this house since I am a 33 yr old college student.

> > Anyone

> > > have an opinion on what to do first?

> > >

> > > Thanks.

> > > April.

> > > aprilcullins@

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Can you post foods that would cause a yeast problem? Today was

pretty good. He's been on the enzymes for a while but taking it

slow and I gave him a whole capsule today, no complaints and no over

eating today. He actually only ate twice today (he woke up around

noon though) and he's eating grapes now. But not constantly in the

kitchen today.

> > > >

> > > > Hi everyone.

> > > >

> > > > I've posted here several times before and I hope for some

help

> > > once

> > > > again. I have an 8yr old and he's about 90 lbs. Was always

> big

> > > for

> > > > his age now he has a tummy on him that he's never had. Been

> > > > developing for about 2 yrs. Exercise doesn't help. I'm

> looking

> > > into

> > > > the Mito cocktail, thyroid testing, etc. Is there some sort

> of

> > > test

> > > > to do to see if a Mito cocktail would help? Should I test

the

> > > > thyroid, sugar levels? (both grandfathers have Type II

> > Diabetes)

> > > I am

> > > > considering the blood test for food allergies but am

thinking

> > > maybe

> > > > some other tests are more urgently needed. We take

melatonin

> > > EVERY

> > > > SINGLE NIGHT to go to sleep. suggested just starting

> > > enzymes

> > > > without checking food allergies also to save dollars which

are

> > at

> > > a

> > > > premium in this house since I am a 33 yr old college

student.

> > > Anyone

> > > > have an opinion on what to do first?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks.

> > > > April.

> > > > aprilcullins@

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> been really embarassed to post his weight because of all the skinny

> kids described here. I definitely have an " i'll eat anything kid "

My son would eat anything because he tolerated nothing. With HNI

enzymes, he tolerated most foods, but not all.

He ate all the time when he was eating foods he did not tolerate, and

when he had a yeast overgrowth issue.

> then he's been better but at first i thought it was the 1000mcg of

> b12 but he doesn't seem effected when i don't give it.

This usually feeds yeast.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> I looked at GPL and didn't see a specific test for fats. We were

> told at his first eval at 4yrs old that he had poor/low muscle tone

> and tight cords in his legs. I read something here about carnitine

> do you think it may help? didn't I see that in the mito cocktail?

> I've heard L-carnitine is good, is it the same thing?

Carnitine is part of mito cocktail. Yes, it helps with muscle tone

issues.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> My son is overweight, will eat anything,and is 'hungry' all the time.

This was my son when he was eating foods he did not tolerate, and when

he had a yeast overgrowth issue.

> He is now 8 years old and weighs 110lbs. He is four feet tall.

> I tried Flax seed oil with him before and he was grumpy (very

> uncharacteristic) with it, emotional, etc.

My son did not tolerate any oils/EFAs until I addressed mito issues,

amino acid deficiencies, and preloaded with Omega 6. EFAs made him

mean and aggressive until this was done. I wrote about it here

http://www.danasview.net/mar05.htm

> His only supplements right now are CLO and Cal/Mag/Zinc. The CLO helps

> with the side squinting, but doesn't make it go away completely.

What my son needed for visual issues is written here

http://www.danasview.net/issues.htm

Dana

[Guest guest]

>

> Can you post foods that would cause a yeast problem?

Info here

http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm

Dana

[Guest guest]

> Can you post foods that would cause a yeast problem?

I am going to copy/paste the email I just sent to April regarding

yeast.

For yeast information, here is a good place to start.

http://altmedicine.about.com/od/popularhealthdiets/a/candidadiet.htm

It's overwhelming if you're on a typical American diet, but then

again, so is autism......everything about it. so here's one more

thing.

You can also search " yeast " on Dana's site, or visit

http://www.yeastconnection.com for more info. (go to " about " )

Basically any starch, like rice, wheat, corn, will feed yeast, as

will fruit, dried fruit, aged foods like things with vinegar, soy

sauce, cheese. Fermented foods are out, as are mushrooms and

anything with mold (citrus and melons are very moldy.) You have to

be very careful with fruits, because the sweeter ones will feed

yeast, and eliminate juices and sweetened beverages of any sort. My

kids still have wheat periodically - my daughter has a little almost

every day and my son, I rotate so that he has it about 3x a week -

and we basically eat a very boring diet. But if you think about the

animal kingdom, most animals eat basically the same 1 or 2 foods

their whole life, and for their bodies, they are just fine. Our

country has the most variety (and the most chemicals) and we are the

sickest by far of any first world country. We really don't need as

much variety as we think we do, in our culture.

I make protein in the form of raw or baked tofu or sometimes

chicken, carbs in the form of yellow apples, bananas, blueberries,

popcorn and whole grain flours, and all vegetables (except not root

vegetables as much - they definitely feed yeast.) My kids eat soy

nuggets, soy patties, all sorts of veggie burgers because at the

moment my son can't eat chicken, but if you can I'd do a lot of

beef, chicken, turkey, lamb and as little fruit and starch as you

possibly can.

You can use activated charcoal for die off symptoms, that will make

it easier. Take it very far from all other meds and supplements -

like 2 hours AFTER anything you need to absorb. Because it will

absorb EVERYTHING in its path, not just the toxins. But it helps a

lot.

We use tons of No Fenol for yeast. I haven't had luck with any

probiotics except ThreeLac. They all cause problems for my kids and

I have tried many. Three Lac is ridiculously expensive but I get it

from an online supplier http://threemax.biz who sells it at

the " old " rate of $49.95 - a lot of online distributors have gone up

over $60 now.

Amy