Guest guest Posted May 22, 2002 Report Share Posted May 22, 2002 In a message dated 5/22/02 11:39:16 AM Mountain Daylight Time, stinky72001@... writes: > revealed that I > have hashimoto's thyroiditis. Could it have been caused by the Zoloft????????????????????? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2002 Report Share Posted May 22, 2002 In a message dated 5/22/02 11:39:16 AM Mountain Daylight Time, stinky72001@... writes: > revealed that I > have hashimoto's thyroiditis. Could it have been caused by the Zoloft????????????????????? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2002 Report Share Posted May 22, 2002 Hey, , you wrote: > Hi all, > my dr. just called me to tell me that my test results revealed that I > have hashimoto's thyroiditis. he said I would eventually have to take > medication and that there is no 'natural' cure for it. I told > him over my dead body will I take any drug that the pharma whores have > to offer. well, looks like I gotta go do some researching > ......anyone have any advice for me? > Ah, yes, the joys of Hashimoto's. I have it, and everyone in my research group has tested positive for T3 problems, most specifically T3-T4 conversion problems. I take Thyrolar, a T3-T4 drug, tiniest dosage possible (1/4 pill dosage is the way it reads.) In our research we've found that the thyroid gets jacked with, as so many other of our hormonal systems...Yes, the joys indeed. I want so badly to be able someday to document the epidemic diseases we see nowadays are being chemically induced ~ either pharms or environmental. Lupus, Diabetes, so many, have been shown to be drug/chemically induced. I know it's the truth ~ just am so sick sometimes, family, etc., I oftimes think I will never be able to do it. Who knows ~ if it's meant to be, it will come to pass...Anyway, I do go on, no???? Back to you, if you go to about.com and type in thyroid, they have links to everything you will want to know. I know there is a natural product, called Armour I beleive, that some use. But, I am not sure if it would be called for or helpful in your case. I'm sure you'll dig to China on this one. Let us know how you fare ~ really sorry you have to deal with this...these people will pay down the line...someday. Best ~ Collissa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2002 Report Share Posted May 22, 2002 Hey, , you wrote: > Hi all, > my dr. just called me to tell me that my test results revealed that I > have hashimoto's thyroiditis. he said I would eventually have to take > medication and that there is no 'natural' cure for it. I told > him over my dead body will I take any drug that the pharma whores have > to offer. well, looks like I gotta go do some researching > ......anyone have any advice for me? > Ah, yes, the joys of Hashimoto's. I have it, and everyone in my research group has tested positive for T3 problems, most specifically T3-T4 conversion problems. I take Thyrolar, a T3-T4 drug, tiniest dosage possible (1/4 pill dosage is the way it reads.) In our research we've found that the thyroid gets jacked with, as so many other of our hormonal systems...Yes, the joys indeed. I want so badly to be able someday to document the epidemic diseases we see nowadays are being chemically induced ~ either pharms or environmental. Lupus, Diabetes, so many, have been shown to be drug/chemically induced. I know it's the truth ~ just am so sick sometimes, family, etc., I oftimes think I will never be able to do it. Who knows ~ if it's meant to be, it will come to pass...Anyway, I do go on, no???? Back to you, if you go to about.com and type in thyroid, they have links to everything you will want to know. I know there is a natural product, called Armour I beleive, that some use. But, I am not sure if it would be called for or helpful in your case. I'm sure you'll dig to China on this one. Let us know how you fare ~ really sorry you have to deal with this...these people will pay down the line...someday. Best ~ Collissa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2002 Report Share Posted May 22, 2002 Glitter, in response to 's Hashimoto's, you wrote: > Could it have been caused by the Zoloft????????????????????? > Kiddo, ABSOLUTELY NO doubt in my mind...NONE. See my response as per our group's research findings with our drug...they all do the same thing...muff one to the max ~ the destroyers that just keep on givin'! C ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2002 Report Share Posted May 22, 2002 Glitter, in response to 's Hashimoto's, you wrote: > Could it have been caused by the Zoloft????????????????????? > Kiddo, ABSOLUTELY NO doubt in my mind...NONE. See my response as per our group's research findings with our drug...they all do the same thing...muff one to the max ~ the destroyers that just keep on givin'! C ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2002 Report Share Posted May 22, 2002 Dear , From a quick search of Pub Med, I would say you are doing the right thing. HT can spontaneously go away. Look into these articles: Love, Suzy 1: J Pediatr Endocrinol Metab 2001 Feb;14(2):177-84 Related Articles, Books, LinkOut The clinical course of Hashimoto's thryoiditis in children and adolescents: 6 years longitudinal follow-up. Jaruratanasirikul S, Leethanaporn K, Khuntigij P, Sriplung H. Department of Pediatrics, Faculty of Medicine, Prince of Songkla University, Hat-Yat, Thailand. jsomchit@... Forty-six children and adolescents with Hashimoto's thyroiditis were followed up for 5.9 +/- 0.3 years. The mean age at diagnosis was 12.4 +/- 1.7 years (range 9-15.4 yr). The patients were divided into three groups according to thyroid function: group 1 (n = 28) included patients who had normal concentrations of free thyroxine (FT4) and thyrotropin (TSH); group 2 (n = 8) included patients who had normal FT4 and elevated TSH, consistent with compensated hypothyroidism; group 3 (n = 10) included patients who had low FT4 and elevated TSH consistent with overt hypothyroidism. After 5.9 years of follow-up, four out of eight patients with compensated hypothyroidism had normal thyroid function and the other four patients developed overt hypothyroidism. Thyroxine therapy was administered in patients with overt hypothyroidism including the four patients with compensated hypothyroidism who later presented with overt hypothyroidism. All patients in both euthyroid and hypothyroid groups had normal growth and puberty. Final adult height was 0.43 +/- 0.80 SDS which was 1.58 +/- 3.03 cm above mid-parental height. The mean age at menarche (n = 43) was 12.4 +/- 1.1 years, which was not different from normal children. The goiter remained the same size in most of the patients with euthyroidism without thyroxine therapy, but decreased in patients with overt hypothyroidism after thyroxine therapy. PMID: 11305796 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] 1: Lancet 1990 Nov 3;336(8723):1084-6 Related Articles, Books, LinkOut Test for recovery from hypothyroidism during thyroxine therapy in Hashimoto's thyroiditis. Takasu N, Komiya I, Asawa T, Nagasawa Y, Yamada T. Department of Gerontology, Endocrinology, and Metabolism, Shinshu University School of Medicine, Nagano-ken, Japan. Hypothyroid patients with Hashimoto's thyroiditis usually receive lifelong thyroxine therapy. Some are known to recover thyroid function, but identification of these patients during continued thyroxine therapy has been impossible. 92 patients with hypothyroidism after Hashimoto's thyroiditis and 70 normal controls were studied. All controls but not patient before thyroxine was started had a normal thyroid response to thyroid stimulating hormone (TSH), circulating concentrations of which were increased by administration of 500 micrograms thyrotropin releasing hormone (TRH). During treatment with thyroxine, 22 patients recovered thyroid responsiveness to TSH, and when treatment was stopped these patients have remained euthyroid for 1-8 years, whereas all 70 who did not recover thyroid TSH responsiveness became hypothyroid within 3 months. Over 20% of patients with hypothyroidism after Hashimoto's thyroiditis may recover satisfactory thyroid function, and can be identified during thyroxine treatment by their thyroid response to TSH in a TRH test. PMID: 1977978 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] 1: Isr J Med Sci 1984 Jul;20(7):625-9 Related Articles, Books, LinkOut Spontaneous remission of hypothyroidism in Hashimoto's (autoimmune) thyroiditis. Sasaki H, Eimoto T, Yamamoto T, Asano T, Okamura M. PMID: 6547931 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] 1: Lancet 1980 Aug 23;2(8191):427 Related Articles, Books, LinkOut Spontaneous remission of hypothyroidism due to Hashimoto's thyroiditis. How J, Khir AS, Bewsher PD. Publication Types: „h Letter PMID: 6105546 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] 1: Annu Rev Med 1991;42:91-6 Related Articles, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uids=2\ 035997 & dopt=BooksBooks, LinkOut Pathophysiology of Hashimoto's thyroiditis and hypothyroidism. Rapoport B. Department of Medicine, University of California, San Francisco. Autoimmune Hashimoto's thyroiditis, the most common endocrine disorder, is primarily a subclinical disease. Whether or not subclinical hypothyroidism should be treated remains controversial. Recent advances have been made in understanding the molecular nature of the antigens that are the target of the immune system in Hashimoto's thyroiditis. The " microsomal antigen " is now recognized to be thyroid peroxidase. Publication Types: „h Review „h Review, Tutorial PMID: 2035997 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] >From: " stinky72001 " <stinky72001@...> >Reply-SSRI medications >SSRI medications >Subject: hashimoto's thyroiditis >Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 17:37:51 -0000 > >Hi all, >my dr. just called me to tell me that my test results revealed that I >have hashimoto's thyroiditis. he said I would eventually have to take >medication and that there is no 'natural' cure for it. I told >him over my dead body will I take any drug that the pharma whores have >to offer. well, looks like I gotta go do some researching >......anyone have any advice for me? > > _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2002 Report Share Posted May 22, 2002 Dear , From a quick search of Pub Med, I would say you are doing the right thing. HT can spontaneously go away. Look into these articles: Love, Suzy 1: J Pediatr Endocrinol Metab 2001 Feb;14(2):177-84 Related Articles, Books, LinkOut The clinical course of Hashimoto's thryoiditis in children and adolescents: 6 years longitudinal follow-up. Jaruratanasirikul S, Leethanaporn K, Khuntigij P, Sriplung H. Department of Pediatrics, Faculty of Medicine, Prince of Songkla University, Hat-Yat, Thailand. jsomchit@... Forty-six children and adolescents with Hashimoto's thyroiditis were followed up for 5.9 +/- 0.3 years. The mean age at diagnosis was 12.4 +/- 1.7 years (range 9-15.4 yr). The patients were divided into three groups according to thyroid function: group 1 (n = 28) included patients who had normal concentrations of free thyroxine (FT4) and thyrotropin (TSH); group 2 (n = 8) included patients who had normal FT4 and elevated TSH, consistent with compensated hypothyroidism; group 3 (n = 10) included patients who had low FT4 and elevated TSH consistent with overt hypothyroidism. After 5.9 years of follow-up, four out of eight patients with compensated hypothyroidism had normal thyroid function and the other four patients developed overt hypothyroidism. Thyroxine therapy was administered in patients with overt hypothyroidism including the four patients with compensated hypothyroidism who later presented with overt hypothyroidism. All patients in both euthyroid and hypothyroid groups had normal growth and puberty. Final adult height was 0.43 +/- 0.80 SDS which was 1.58 +/- 3.03 cm above mid-parental height. The mean age at menarche (n = 43) was 12.4 +/- 1.1 years, which was not different from normal children. The goiter remained the same size in most of the patients with euthyroidism without thyroxine therapy, but decreased in patients with overt hypothyroidism after thyroxine therapy. PMID: 11305796 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] 1: Lancet 1990 Nov 3;336(8723):1084-6 Related Articles, Books, LinkOut Test for recovery from hypothyroidism during thyroxine therapy in Hashimoto's thyroiditis. Takasu N, Komiya I, Asawa T, Nagasawa Y, Yamada T. Department of Gerontology, Endocrinology, and Metabolism, Shinshu University School of Medicine, Nagano-ken, Japan. Hypothyroid patients with Hashimoto's thyroiditis usually receive lifelong thyroxine therapy. Some are known to recover thyroid function, but identification of these patients during continued thyroxine therapy has been impossible. 92 patients with hypothyroidism after Hashimoto's thyroiditis and 70 normal controls were studied. All controls but not patient before thyroxine was started had a normal thyroid response to thyroid stimulating hormone (TSH), circulating concentrations of which were increased by administration of 500 micrograms thyrotropin releasing hormone (TRH). During treatment with thyroxine, 22 patients recovered thyroid responsiveness to TSH, and when treatment was stopped these patients have remained euthyroid for 1-8 years, whereas all 70 who did not recover thyroid TSH responsiveness became hypothyroid within 3 months. Over 20% of patients with hypothyroidism after Hashimoto's thyroiditis may recover satisfactory thyroid function, and can be identified during thyroxine treatment by their thyroid response to TSH in a TRH test. PMID: 1977978 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] 1: Isr J Med Sci 1984 Jul;20(7):625-9 Related Articles, Books, LinkOut Spontaneous remission of hypothyroidism in Hashimoto's (autoimmune) thyroiditis. Sasaki H, Eimoto T, Yamamoto T, Asano T, Okamura M. PMID: 6547931 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] 1: Lancet 1980 Aug 23;2(8191):427 Related Articles, Books, LinkOut Spontaneous remission of hypothyroidism due to Hashimoto's thyroiditis. How J, Khir AS, Bewsher PD. Publication Types: „h Letter PMID: 6105546 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] 1: Annu Rev Med 1991;42:91-6 Related Articles, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uids=2\ 035997 & dopt=BooksBooks, LinkOut Pathophysiology of Hashimoto's thyroiditis and hypothyroidism. Rapoport B. Department of Medicine, University of California, San Francisco. Autoimmune Hashimoto's thyroiditis, the most common endocrine disorder, is primarily a subclinical disease. Whether or not subclinical hypothyroidism should be treated remains controversial. Recent advances have been made in understanding the molecular nature of the antigens that are the target of the immune system in Hashimoto's thyroiditis. The " microsomal antigen " is now recognized to be thyroid peroxidase. Publication Types: „h Review „h Review, Tutorial PMID: 2035997 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] >From: " stinky72001 " <stinky72001@...> >Reply-SSRI medications >SSRI medications >Subject: hashimoto's thyroiditis >Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 17:37:51 -0000 > >Hi all, >my dr. just called me to tell me that my test results revealed that I >have hashimoto's thyroiditis. he said I would eventually have to take >medication and that there is no 'natural' cure for it. I told >him over my dead body will I take any drug that the pharma whores have >to offer. well, looks like I gotta go do some researching >......anyone have any advice for me? > > _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2002 Report Share Posted May 22, 2002 Thanks, Collissa. I knew something was up but didn't think it was this. I would suppose taking HRT for 6 yrs in conjunction with the zoloft didn't help either. I've been printing off stuff but won't really get a chance to read it in depth until this weekend. I must get my sister off the zoloft. I'd have to assume her genetics are very much similar to mine and that she will develop thyroid problems if she stays on it much longer. I was wondering too, do you think that if I had tapered for a much longer period of time that I could have avoided this outcome? maybe depriving the body too quickly of a drug it was used to causes the problem to develop. I was on zoloft for six years, tapered for six months. Maybe I should have taken a year or longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2002 Report Share Posted May 22, 2002 Thanks, Collissa. I knew something was up but didn't think it was this. I would suppose taking HRT for 6 yrs in conjunction with the zoloft didn't help either. I've been printing off stuff but won't really get a chance to read it in depth until this weekend. I must get my sister off the zoloft. I'd have to assume her genetics are very much similar to mine and that she will develop thyroid problems if she stays on it much longer. I was wondering too, do you think that if I had tapered for a much longer period of time that I could have avoided this outcome? maybe depriving the body too quickly of a drug it was used to causes the problem to develop. I was on zoloft for six years, tapered for six months. Maybe I should have taken a year or longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2002 Report Share Posted May 22, 2002 > > I was wondering too, do you think that if I had tapered for a much > longer period of time that I could have avoided this outcome? maybe > depriving the body too quickly of a drug it was used to causes the > problem to develop. I was on zoloft for six years, tapered for six > months. Maybe I should have taken a year or longer. > That's a tough call. I was forced to cold-turkey off my poison due to the dystonic reaction, myoclonus, etc., etc., that occurred after 3.5 days usage...Those in our research group also went immediately off the drug due to severe adverse reactions. Sooooo, could be you are right. We are to be doing a study on people who were on the drug for longer periods and then started experiencing problems. Maybe the answer to this one ~ one of a zillion ~ will be gleaned from it... Good luck with it all ~ especially in trying to get someone else off an AD. With all my family of origin knows about what happened to me and what I know, the majority don't want to hear it. I have a brother who's on one of the ADs, certain to pay the piper down the line...Now, I just pray... Best ~ Collissa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2002 Report Share Posted May 22, 2002 > > I was wondering too, do you think that if I had tapered for a much > longer period of time that I could have avoided this outcome? maybe > depriving the body too quickly of a drug it was used to causes the > problem to develop. I was on zoloft for six years, tapered for six > months. Maybe I should have taken a year or longer. > That's a tough call. I was forced to cold-turkey off my poison due to the dystonic reaction, myoclonus, etc., etc., that occurred after 3.5 days usage...Those in our research group also went immediately off the drug due to severe adverse reactions. Sooooo, could be you are right. We are to be doing a study on people who were on the drug for longer periods and then started experiencing problems. Maybe the answer to this one ~ one of a zillion ~ will be gleaned from it... Good luck with it all ~ especially in trying to get someone else off an AD. With all my family of origin knows about what happened to me and what I know, the majority don't want to hear it. I have a brother who's on one of the ADs, certain to pay the piper down the line...Now, I just pray... Best ~ Collissa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2002 Report Share Posted May 22, 2002 Thank you so much, Suzy. My doc said it was a permanent condition. Not that I would believe anything ever again that a doctor says without doing total followup research myself..... xo > Dear , > > From a quick search of Pub Med, I would say you are doing the right thing. > HT can spontaneously go away. Look into these articles: > > Love, > Suzy > > 1: J Pediatr Endocrinol Metab 2001 Feb;14(2):177-84 Related Articles, Books, > LinkOut > > The clinical course of Hashimoto's thryoiditis in children and adolescents: > 6 years longitudinal follow-up. > > Jaruratanasirikul S, Leethanaporn K, Khuntigij P, Sriplung H. > > Department of Pediatrics, Faculty of Medicine, Prince of Songkla University, > Hat-Yat, Thailand. jsomchit@r... > > Forty-six children and adolescents with Hashimoto's thyroiditis were > followed up for 5.9 +/- 0.3 years. The mean age at diagnosis was 12.4 +/- > 1.7 years (range 9-15.4 yr). The patients were divided into three groups > according to thyroid function: group 1 (n = 28) included patients who had > normal concentrations of free thyroxine (FT4) and thyrotropin (TSH); group 2 > (n = 8) included patients who had normal FT4 and elevated TSH, consistent > with compensated hypothyroidism; group 3 (n = 10) included patients who had > low FT4 and elevated TSH consistent with overt hypothyroidism. After 5.9 > years of follow-up, four out of eight patients with compensated > hypothyroidism had normal thyroid function and the other four patients > developed overt hypothyroidism. Thyroxine therapy was administered in > patients with overt hypothyroidism including the four patients with > compensated hypothyroidism who later presented with overt hypothyroidism. > All patients in both euthyroid and hypothyroid groups had normal growth and > puberty. Final adult height was 0.43 +/- 0.80 SDS which was 1.58 +/- 3.03 cm > above mid-parental height. The mean age at menarche (n = 43) was 12.4 +/- > 1.1 years, which was not different from normal children. The goiter remained > the same size in most of the patients with euthyroidism without thyroxine > therapy, but decreased in patients with overt hypothyroidism after thyroxine > therapy. > > PMID: 11305796 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] > 1: Lancet 1990 Nov 3;336(8723):1084-6 Related Articles, Books, LinkOut > > Test for recovery from hypothyroidism during thyroxine therapy in > Hashimoto's thyroiditis. > > Takasu N, Komiya I, Asawa T, Nagasawa Y, Yamada T. > > Department of Gerontology, Endocrinology, and Metabolism, Shinshu University > School of Medicine, Nagano-ken, Japan. > > Hypothyroid patients with Hashimoto's thyroiditis usually receive lifelong > thyroxine therapy. Some are known to recover thyroid function, but > identification of these patients during continued thyroxine therapy has been > impossible. 92 patients with hypothyroidism after Hashimoto's thyroiditis > and 70 normal controls were studied. All controls but not patient before > thyroxine was started had a normal thyroid response to thyroid stimulating > hormone (TSH), circulating concentrations of which were increased by > administration of 500 micrograms thyrotropin releasing hormone (TRH). During > treatment with thyroxine, 22 > patients recovered thyroid responsiveness to TSH, and when treatment was > stopped these patients have remained euthyroid for 1-8 years, whereas all 70 > who did not recover thyroid TSH responsiveness became hypothyroid within 3 > months. Over 20% of patients with hypothyroidism after Hashimoto's > thyroiditis may recover satisfactory thyroid function, and can be identified > during thyroxine treatment by their thyroid response to TSH in a TRH test. > > PMID: 1977978 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] > > > > 1: Isr J Med Sci 1984 Jul;20(7):625-9 Related Articles, Books, LinkOut > > Spontaneous remission of hypothyroidism in Hashimoto's (autoimmune) > thyroiditis. > > Sasaki H, Eimoto T, Yamamoto T, Asano T, Okamura M. > > PMID: 6547931 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] > > > > 1: Lancet 1980 Aug 23;2(8191):427 Related Articles, Books, LinkOut > > Spontaneous remission of hypothyroidism due to Hashimoto's thyroiditis. > > How J, Khir AS, Bewsher PD. > > Publication Types: > „h Letter > > PMID: 6105546 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] > > > 1: Annu Rev Med 1991;42:91-6 Related Articles, > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & l ist_uids=2035997 & dopt=BooksBooks, > LinkOut > > Pathophysiology of Hashimoto's thyroiditis and hypothyroidism. > > Rapoport B. > > Department of Medicine, University of California, San Francisco. > > Autoimmune Hashimoto's thyroiditis, the most common endocrine disorder, is > primarily a subclinical disease. Whether or not subclinical hypothyroidism > should be treated remains controversial. Recent advances have been made in > understanding the molecular nature of the antigens that are the target of > the immune system in Hashimoto's thyroiditis. The " microsomal antigen " is > now recognized to be thyroid peroxidase. > > Publication Types: > „h Review > „h Review, Tutorial > > PMID: 2035997 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] > > > > > >From: " stinky72001 " <stinky72001@y...> > >Reply-SSRI medications@y... > >SSRI medications@y... > >Subject: hashimoto's thyroiditis > >Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 17:37:51 -0000 > > > >Hi all, > >my dr. just called me to tell me that my test results revealed that I > >have hashimoto's thyroiditis. he said I would eventually have to take > >medication and that there is no 'natural' cure for it. I told > >him over my dead body will I take any drug that the pharma whores have > >to offer. well, looks like I gotta go do some researching > >......anyone have any advice for me? > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2002 Report Share Posted May 22, 2002 Thank you so much, Suzy. My doc said it was a permanent condition. Not that I would believe anything ever again that a doctor says without doing total followup research myself..... xo > Dear , > > From a quick search of Pub Med, I would say you are doing the right thing. > HT can spontaneously go away. Look into these articles: > > Love, > Suzy > > 1: J Pediatr Endocrinol Metab 2001 Feb;14(2):177-84 Related Articles, Books, > LinkOut > > The clinical course of Hashimoto's thryoiditis in children and adolescents: > 6 years longitudinal follow-up. > > Jaruratanasirikul S, Leethanaporn K, Khuntigij P, Sriplung H. > > Department of Pediatrics, Faculty of Medicine, Prince of Songkla University, > Hat-Yat, Thailand. jsomchit@r... > > Forty-six children and adolescents with Hashimoto's thyroiditis were > followed up for 5.9 +/- 0.3 years. The mean age at diagnosis was 12.4 +/- > 1.7 years (range 9-15.4 yr). The patients were divided into three groups > according to thyroid function: group 1 (n = 28) included patients who had > normal concentrations of free thyroxine (FT4) and thyrotropin (TSH); group 2 > (n = 8) included patients who had normal FT4 and elevated TSH, consistent > with compensated hypothyroidism; group 3 (n = 10) included patients who had > low FT4 and elevated TSH consistent with overt hypothyroidism. After 5.9 > years of follow-up, four out of eight patients with compensated > hypothyroidism had normal thyroid function and the other four patients > developed overt hypothyroidism. Thyroxine therapy was administered in > patients with overt hypothyroidism including the four patients with > compensated hypothyroidism who later presented with overt hypothyroidism. > All patients in both euthyroid and hypothyroid groups had normal growth and > puberty. Final adult height was 0.43 +/- 0.80 SDS which was 1.58 +/- 3.03 cm > above mid-parental height. The mean age at menarche (n = 43) was 12.4 +/- > 1.1 years, which was not different from normal children. The goiter remained > the same size in most of the patients with euthyroidism without thyroxine > therapy, but decreased in patients with overt hypothyroidism after thyroxine > therapy. > > PMID: 11305796 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] > 1: Lancet 1990 Nov 3;336(8723):1084-6 Related Articles, Books, LinkOut > > Test for recovery from hypothyroidism during thyroxine therapy in > Hashimoto's thyroiditis. > > Takasu N, Komiya I, Asawa T, Nagasawa Y, Yamada T. > > Department of Gerontology, Endocrinology, and Metabolism, Shinshu University > School of Medicine, Nagano-ken, Japan. > > Hypothyroid patients with Hashimoto's thyroiditis usually receive lifelong > thyroxine therapy. Some are known to recover thyroid function, but > identification of these patients during continued thyroxine therapy has been > impossible. 92 patients with hypothyroidism after Hashimoto's thyroiditis > and 70 normal controls were studied. All controls but not patient before > thyroxine was started had a normal thyroid response to thyroid stimulating > hormone (TSH), circulating concentrations of which were increased by > administration of 500 micrograms thyrotropin releasing hormone (TRH). During > treatment with thyroxine, 22 > patients recovered thyroid responsiveness to TSH, and when treatment was > stopped these patients have remained euthyroid for 1-8 years, whereas all 70 > who did not recover thyroid TSH responsiveness became hypothyroid within 3 > months. Over 20% of patients with hypothyroidism after Hashimoto's > thyroiditis may recover satisfactory thyroid function, and can be identified > during thyroxine treatment by their thyroid response to TSH in a TRH test. > > PMID: 1977978 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] > > > > 1: Isr J Med Sci 1984 Jul;20(7):625-9 Related Articles, Books, LinkOut > > Spontaneous remission of hypothyroidism in Hashimoto's (autoimmune) > thyroiditis. > > Sasaki H, Eimoto T, Yamamoto T, Asano T, Okamura M. > > PMID: 6547931 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] > > > > 1: Lancet 1980 Aug 23;2(8191):427 Related Articles, Books, LinkOut > > Spontaneous remission of hypothyroidism due to Hashimoto's thyroiditis. > > How J, Khir AS, Bewsher PD. > > Publication Types: > „h Letter > > PMID: 6105546 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] > > > 1: Annu Rev Med 1991;42:91-6 Related Articles, > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & l ist_uids=2035997 & dopt=BooksBooks, > LinkOut > > Pathophysiology of Hashimoto's thyroiditis and hypothyroidism. > > Rapoport B. > > Department of Medicine, University of California, San Francisco. > > Autoimmune Hashimoto's thyroiditis, the most common endocrine disorder, is > primarily a subclinical disease. Whether or not subclinical hypothyroidism > should be treated remains controversial. Recent advances have been made in > understanding the molecular nature of the antigens that are the target of > the immune system in Hashimoto's thyroiditis. The " microsomal antigen " is > now recognized to be thyroid peroxidase. > > Publication Types: > „h Review > „h Review, Tutorial > > PMID: 2035997 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] > > > > > >From: " stinky72001 " <stinky72001@y...> > >Reply-SSRI medications@y... > >SSRI medications@y... > >Subject: hashimoto's thyroiditis > >Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 17:37:51 -0000 > > > >Hi all, > >my dr. just called me to tell me that my test results revealed that I > >have hashimoto's thyroiditis. he said I would eventually have to take > >medication and that there is no 'natural' cure for it. I told > >him over my dead body will I take any drug that the pharma whores have > >to offer. well, looks like I gotta go do some researching > >......anyone have any advice for me? > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2006 Report Share Posted August 9, 2006 Hi Group, I just wanted to forward this on to you all regarding the iodine issue. It could be that they just want me to purchase a product from them, or it could be that this iodine discussion is not yet over. Love, Peace, and Blessings Customer Service <mail@...> wrote: From: " Customer Service " <mail@...> <familyirwin@...> Subject: RE: Hashimoto's Thyroiditis Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 17:08:51 -0700 v\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } o\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } w\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } .shape { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } st1\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#ieooui) } @font-face { font-family: Tahoma; } @page Section1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; } P.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: " Times New Roman " } LI.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: " Times New Roman " } DIV.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: " Times New Roman " } A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } A:visited { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.EmailStyle17 { COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-style-type: personal } SPAN.EmailStyle18 { COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-style-type: personal } SPAN.EmailStyle19 { COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-style-type: personal } SPAN.EmailStyle20 { COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-style-type: personal-reply } DIV.Section1 { page: Section1 } , We sent your goiter question to Dr. Flechas who has written for us on iodine, I thought it was a way to get you a quicker response. Dear , Iodine has been used for over 150 years to treat goiter to make it smaller. One has to be guarded in the use of iodine in autoimmune thyroiditis with a hyperactive thyroid component, In patients who have hypothyroidism, low thyroid, they can take iodine with no problem. You can check for total body iodine stores with the test provided by VRP called the Iodine loading test. Respectfully, JD Flechas MD, MPH Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 9:54 PM drdean@... Subject: Re: Hashimoto's Thyroiditis Thank you so much for your reply. I did find a natural thyroid that is made from sheep, so this is good. Is is true that iodine could be very bad with goiter and autoimmune? How do I test for iodine stores? Also, I will check out the UniZyme™. Thank you so much! Irwin drdean@... wrote: Dear Dr. Dean, I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's thyroiditis. I am currently off Synthroid®, but my TSH is 37. I am a kosher vegetarian. Can you recommend a natural thyroid that does not come from pigs? Thanks! Ms. I. Dear Ms. I., I am unaware of any non-porcine natural thyroid. However, if your body is supplied with adequate Iodine, your own thyroid may be able to correct itself. I recommend VRP's Iodoral®, with periodic testing of your body's iodine stores. Also, you may benefit by the potent anti-inflammatory effects of VRP's UniZyme™. Ward Dean, M.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 I have this as well Wanda, but it was diagnosed a long time before I got pregnant so I was taking thyroid hormone during my pregnancies. Nonetheless there is a connection between autoimmune thyroid disorder in the mother and autism in the children - when my DAN! doc heard I had HT, he muttered " bingo " as he was taking his notes. I don't think one causes the other, but maybe the gene pool which is vulnerable to autoimmune problems is also vulnerable to autism? Just a thought. I would also be interested in all the information you get from the endo. PS I also have Lyme Disease apparently, which complicates the analysis, oh joy . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 So, regarding the symptoms you had when your TSH was at 9... Were you tired, did you gain weight, did your skin change? You say you are back on Iodine but don't mention the dosage. How many milligrams are you taking per day of Iodine? And where is your TSH now? Thanks in advance. Savvy > > > > I would keep taking it. My husbands did the same after he started > (he has > > hashi's). It is common for TSH to increase post iodine > supplementing so > > that the NIS are stimulated to take in the iodine. In the long > run it will > > take your antibodies down. There are others here who have taken > it > > sucessfully too. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hashimoto's Thyroiditis > > > > > > > Just received this diagnosis. Have been taking 50 mg of iodine > for > > > quite a few months now. Have noticed that I am getting fatter, > more > > > tired and taking afternoon naps, sleep is usually very sound, my > skin > > > is smoother, though that change is more recent. Went through a > few > > > months of very bad scaling and sandpapery skin. My TSH has gone > up to > > > 9.4. Wondering about the cause and effect here and whether to > stop > > > the Iodine altogether, reduce the dosage, or keep taking it? > > > Are there others on this site who have experienced similar > effects > > > with Iodine loading? Please reply personally off the group. > Thanks. > > > SAvvy > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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