Re: Fish oil supplementation can be harmful/Suze

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Thank you suze for the info and will look into it very soon.And I also wanted

to tell you that I really like reading your posts as you always come up with

out of the box relevent info.

Thanks again,

Haleh

--- Suze Fisher <s.fisher22@...> wrote:

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> >From:

> >[mailto: ]On Behalf Of haleh niazmand

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> I am going to try ProEFA and this time I am going to commit for a

> >long time. I am convinced that it will help.

>

> Hi Haleh,

>

> Unfortunately fish oil supplementation, especially long-term, can be very

> damaging to the body. Fish oil contains long chain omega 3s that increase

> lipid peroxidation in the body. In other words, it oxidizes and causes a

> free radical cascade that can lead to a host of diseases. If the body is

> deficient in these long chain omega 3's (EPA and DHA) then you will

> definitely see improvements in the short term (in this case speech

> improvements it seems), but note that the long-term damage of too much EFA

> can be very serious. Also, when taking EFAs it's critical to supplement with

> antioxidants to prevent the peroxidation caused by the EFAs. The vit. E

> fraction in most fish oil products is only enough to protect the product

> from oxidation in_the_bottle, NOT in your body! So, a comprehensive vit. E

> product should be used (not isolated alpha tocopherol). There is no single

> comprehensive vit. E product on the market that contains all the tocopherols

> and tocotrienols that I'm aware of. (Maybe someone else on this board knows

> of one?) But you could get Unique E, which is all the tocopherols, and pair

> it up with a comprehensive tocotrienol product. Also, Red virgin palm oil

> contains the most comprehensive vitamin E profile of any food that I'm aware

> of. So that would be one *food* source of the E complex. But it probably

> wouldn't be enough to prevent oxidation from supplemental fish oil or other

> EFA supplements.

>

> It is always best to try to maintain a proper EFA balance in the DIET before

> adding supplemental EFA. The ratio should be as low as possible (6/3). Fish

> oil and other omega 3's are given in order to prevent the pro-inflammatory

> effects of too much omega 6, so if the diet is properly balanced to begin

> with, then supplemental omega 3's may not be required. Things that typically

> cause a pro-inflammatory EFA imbalance are vegetable and seed oils often

> used in cooking, most packaged foods, seeds, nuts and grains.

>

> If you really want to supplement with omega 3's then I think high vitamin

> CLO is far and above the absolute best choice. This is where I get mine:

> http://www.drrons.com/cod-liver-oil.htm

> A few studies have found that, while EFA supplementation raises lipid

> peroxides even_in_the_presence_of_sufficient_vitamin_E(!), CLO

> supplementation actually LOWERS lipid peroxides! I think this is due to

> antioxidative effects of vitamins A and D. Add to that, most Americans (and

> probably most folks living in industrialized nations) are deficient in

> vitamin D and generally have a low A intake, which furthers the cause of CLO

> supplementation in place of fish oil supplementation.

>

>

> Suze Fisher

> Lapdog Design, Inc.

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> Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

> http://www.westonaprice.org

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> heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times.” --

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> University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

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> The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

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[Guest guest]

>-----Original Message-----

>From:

>[mailto: ]On Behalf Of haleh niazmand

>Thank you suze for the info and will look into it very soon.And I

>also wanted

>to tell you that I really like reading your posts as you always

>come up with

>out of the box relevent info.

>Thanks again,

>Haleh

Thanks Haleh :-) That's largely a consequence of being involved in the

Weston A. Price Foundation, being on several WAPF-related lists, and reading

their quarterly journal. Actually, I get tipped to a lot of these issues on

one particular WAPF-related list:

( ) NN is absolutely the

BEST nutrition-related list I'm on. The quality of information is

outstanding and much information that is overlooked by the mainstream is

discussed, such as the fish oil issue. It's essentially taken for granted on

that list that supplementing fish oil is a bad idea.

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg

Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

http://www.westonaprice.org

----------------------------

“The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause

heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times.” --

Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt

University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

<http://www.thincs.org>

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[Guest guest]

>-----Original Message-----

>From: Suze Fisher [mailto:s.fisher22@...]

>Thanks Haleh :-) That's largely a consequence of being involved in

>the Weston A. Price Foundation, being on several WAPF-related

>lists, and reading their quarterly journal.

Forgot to mention that Weston Price's book, " Nutrition and Physical

Degeneration " , is the most profoundly informative book on nutrition I've

ever read! I think good nutriton simply cannot be understood until one

learns about the nutritional wisdom of truly healthy non-industrialized

populations who passed on their dietary wisdom from generation to

generation. (That probably includes many of our ancestors.) And would've

been lost had Weston Price not spent a decade travelling the world and

studying their dietaries and analyzing them in his lab.

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg

Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

http://www.westonaprice.org

----------------------------

“The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause

heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times.” --

Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt

University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

<http://www.thincs.org>

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