Mannatech

November 16, 1999

I agree with . This will be the last time I'm

going to get into a Mannatech discussion.

From Websters New Complete Medical Dictionary:

glyco: see GLYC

Glyc:carbohydrate and esp. sugar

acetyl:the radical CH3CO of acetic acid

acetic acid:a colorless pungent acid C2H402 that is

the chief acid of vinegar and is used occas. in

medicine as an astringent and styptic

A good site for understanding the cells:

<http://www.members.tripod.com/vs8/cell.htm>

the site I got my information about cell to cell

communication happening through neurotransmitters and

synapsis

<http://www.science.uwaterloo.ca/course_notes/biology/biol273/neurolneuro14:html\

>

When researching cells, the term glycoproteins were

used a lot, but not glyconutrients.

Food is lacking nutrients today, but is not void of

nutrients.

Now Russ, a couple of questions for you. Do you use

solely Mannatech literature on your answers to us, or

have you researched this on your own, without the

Mannatech references?

2nd question-Do you personally have Candida? If so,

you would understand that the fungus invades every

part of your body. Therefore, nothing will work the

way it's suppose to until the fungus is retarded. Even

a supplement that improves cell function and cell to

cell communication will NOT work until the fungus is

retarded and normal biological activity is resumed.

That is why we are so much more interested in

supplements with antifungal properties.

In ending this discussion about Mannetech, I do wish

you luck with this, Russ. You're a great salesman. I

have found that if you want to make money with sales,

you need to find a great company with a great

compensation plan.

--- Luiz Moreira

<gingerjoe@...> wrote:

> I promise this is the last time I will write about

> this matter.

> I appreciate Russ having an M.Sc. . I also do . Mine

> is from MSU. Maybe I

> have a personnal problem with MLM companies.

> Why is it that most of MLM companies are not

> trustable ? OK,

> that will nos desqualify Mannatech . Maybe they are

> different.

> I have received once a Journal with Mannatech

> studies and it turn out to be

> a whole Journal dedicated to Mannatech studies .

> I found a little strange to say the list.

> Anyway, I joined this list to see if I could learn

> something from you guys

> that are out there more time trying to control this

> problem but what I have

> seen here is just a few people trying to

> sell Mannatech products. They have even questioned

> the efficacy of know

> products such as Pau D´Arco, caprystatin,

> garlic,acidophilus, Saccharomice

> boulardii ( the yeast against yeast ),

> and well know drugs like nystatin, nizoral and

> fluconazole. By the way I

> don´t need to provide scientific information for

> those drugs. FDA have

> already done that before allowing their marketing.

> As

> far as the Natural supplements are concerned just by

> a bood about Candida in

> any Health Food Store and read it. If you don´t

> believe in what the author

> says write him a letter and ask for scientific

> information.

> Along with proper diet those are the main products

> that one should use to

> control candida.

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November 28, 1999

In a message dated 11/28/99 6:31:10 PM Eastern Standard Time,

alohastanford@... writes:

<< sister's minister got almost his entire congregation signed up as

distributors, so I guess he's making money while my sister and her

daughter are just throwing theirs away. I think the whole thing stinks

to high heaven. Therefore, naturally, I am highly offended by all the

Mannatech propaganda I've been reading on this list. I still subscribe

because of all the other useful information I have gleaned.

Jim >>

Thanks, it's nice to hear an objective viewpoint

November 28, 1999

I became a Mannatech distributor at the urging of my sister and took the

products for over a year. None of my symptoms went away, nor were they

improved. It seemed to me that I gained no benefits whatsoever from

taking the products, so of course I stopped taking them and I am no

longer a distributor. My sister and my niece still take them regularly,

and they still have all the same health problems they always had. My

sister's minister got almost his entire congregation signed up as

distributors, so I guess he's making money while my sister and her

daughter are just throwing theirs away. I think the whole thing stinks

to high heaven. Therefore, naturally, I am highly offended by all the

Mannatech propaganda I've been reading on this list. I still subscribe

because of all the other useful information I have gleaned.

Jim

February 1, 2003

Dear Debby,

I have never heard of it. Is your

sister-in-law a doctor?

I would only follow the doctor’s

advice and ask them about this before I started taking it.

Good luck!

[ ]

Mannatech

My sister in law wants me to try

something from Mannatech. It is like a multilevel program.

Apparently, it has some vege / fruit derivitive or something that she thinks

could help. Has anyone heard of this product before?

Debby

February 28, 2005

It is pretty expensive. I tried Mannatech for three months, 6 a day and I

couldn't tell any difference in anything.

February 28, 2005

There is a person () with lyme (in one of the lyme groups) who said that

the Ambrotose helped her get over the lyme. It took 6mo before she had

improvement.

I had tried it yrs ago and quit. Maybe I gave up on it to soon.

I know a cheaper supplier for the Ambrotose if you are interested.

Email me direct.

lucher@...

REMOCLIHP <REMOCLIHP@...> wrote:

I've read some posts of members that are using Mannatech and am intrigued. I

considered it years ago but never gave i ta try. I'd be curious to hear

experiences either positve or negative from using if as I am now considering

using it. I've been spending a fortune on supplements that I'm not really sure

will help.

Phil

February 28, 2005

In a message dated 2/28/05 10:56:40 AM, REMOCLIHP@... writes:

>I've read some posts of members that are using Mannatech and am intrigued.

>I considered it years ago but never gave i ta try. I'd be curious to hear

>experiences either positve or negative from using if as I am now considering

>using it. I've been spending a fortune on supplements that I'm not really

>sure will help.

>

Dear Phil,

I tried Mannatech years ago when a person I knew from my neighborhood tried

it as a business opportunity and chance at improved health. She did not have

Lyme but had stomach problems. I went to a meeting at her home and met the

owner/founder who gave a talk about it. I was not impressed as he sat there

stuffing his face with blueberry pie and ice cream, and was extremely

overweight.

He said that nutrition was unimportant and that the products were all we need

to be healthy. He said he could eat whatever he wanted.

I did try the products for a short time as a courtesy and did not feel a

difference. I never finished them. I went right back to the supplements I have

been using for years which have kept me and my family healthy and Lyme free

thus far.

Sue Rauch

March 1, 2005

,

Do you attribute all of your husband's symptom relief to taking the

Ambrotose? Other Mannatech products?

Jan

[ ] Mannatech

Hi and Phil

I was not diagnosed with lyme, my husband had it for years. He is now

symptom free, not walking with a cane and no more joint inflamtion. He

also had internal organ problems with heart and gall bladder, that have

now subsided. He takes more then just one product and we have changed

our diets dramatcially. I believed to have MS or possibly Lyme but only

clinical DX. IF you are buying ambrotose cheap some where else it would

not be ambrotose, but if it works just as well, go for it, there are

lots of copy cat products out there, buyer beware. I was poisoned by

cheap supplements that came from companies that had no GMP standards and

this cost me alot of ill health. . For my family we will never be

without the Mannatech products, it is a trusted name and tested

products..

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March 1, 2005

In a message dated 3/1/05 2:51:50 PM, morningsunranch@... writes:

>My husbands Lyme is in remission, and all my symptoms

>of MS are gone, we will never be without good organic foods, and our

>Mannatech supplements, we owe our lives to them.

- I am so glad you found that sticking with Mannatech supplements has

worked for you and your husband. You are quite right. I believe that I met the

founder of Mannatech about nine years ago. I was on the cusp of turning

holistic, and was probably still in medical mode. I was doing Sunrider then for

probably about a year and exploring all options. It is possible that the

founder of Mannatech lost a lot of weight. Many of us go up and down. I just

remember him as being a rather large person, but it was some time ago, and I do

remember him eating a piece of pie and ice cream and commenting on how he didn't

have to watch what he ate because Mannatech supplements kept him healthy. I

remember that I was bothered by that. I remember this woman telling me about

their marketing plan and how creative she could get with creating legs

(downlines) and that it would be very profitable for me to sign up which I did

at that

time and she would teach me how to build a business.

I think I was so impressed in the Sunrider Chinese philosophy of regeneration

that I didn't give it a proper try. I too believe as you do that if you

don't change your diet, eat organic, cut out white flour and yeast products,

sugar

and limit dairy, that we will remain chronically ill with Lyme or MS. I

believe most illnesses today manifest themselves because of poor diet and our

toxic environment. My whole family and I had third stage neurological Lyme and

are healthy for about 10 years with my Sunrider herbal food and these diet

changes. I guess we all have to find our nitch and what works for us.

I wish the medical profession would wake up to what we are doing, but if they

did, they would no longer get kickbacks from the drug companies as they are

paid to introduce the " drug of the month " to their patients. The last time I

went to my doctor which was a month ago for my yearly physical, I think there

were more drug company reps there than patients, and they were all filling the

shelves of his medicine sample closet. Then unknowing patients take meds like

Viox and Celebrex and wonder why they are lying in a hospital with a heart

attack, or bleeding ulcer. My doctor does recognize that I have healed myself

both physically and spiritually and he is extremely impressed how I turned my

health around and am medication free for many years.

I wish you and your husband continued good health.

Sue

March 2, 2005

,

None of us actually remember being bit nor did we have the rash. Actually we

all had Lyme, (the four of us and the dog makes five.) My husband was the

first to get sick in January, 1989 and his started with a flu like illness that

included a very stiff neck. He then went into ensephilopathy (sp?) and was

rushed from my doctor's office to the ER. They never got a handle on what was

wrong with him and he ended up being misdiagnosed with major depression and was

put in the psych ward and stayed there for about a month. The day after he

went into the hospital, I lost my father and had to take my children (daughter

8 and son 11) to NY to be with my family and make funeral arrangements. The

day of the funeral, my daughter came down with a bad case of chickenpox, which

her brother had several weeks before. The stress was awful, and my children

were definitely going through a lot as I was. While my husband was in the

hospital, my son was exhibiting very weird behavior and was limping. Just like

your son, moodiness, depression and sleeping for 18 hours at a time or totally

hyperactive. My daughter was walking into walls and falling a lot, and

complaining that her pelvis hurt. The pediatrician blew me off and said it was

stress related. My family doctor had been seeing a lot of Lyme at that time and

tested them and they both came up high positive. The were both hospitalized in

1989 together on Memorial Day weekend. My husband was in another hospital

almost 2 hrs away being treated for depression. Then the unthinkable happened.

I got a call at the nurses station from my doctor who knew that my kids were

being treated in the hospital for Lyme and he found my husband's Lyme test

results from three months before buried under some papers on his desk and it was

positive. He was mortified and apologized profusely. He was being treated

all this time for depression when he needed major antibiotics.

Then when my kids were done with their treatment after 28 days and my husband

was home and getting better, I became ill with many of their symptoms and was

getting negative tests. After several months of feeling ill, my face

collapsed on the left side and I had Bells Palsy. My doctor retested me and it

was

finally positive, so I knew I wasn't crazy. I was put on i.v. rosephen for 28

days but didn't make it past 21 days since my white count dropped. This saga

went on for five years of my children and myself being reshopitalized and put

on various antibiotic combos, but it only worked with temporary results.

Somehow my husband did very well and had a complete recovery, barring just a few

knee pains periodically. My children were on home instruction on and off

from 1989-1995.

In 1994, I went to a nutritionist and he advised these mega vitamins, but

they only made me sick and they were not small enough for kids. I started

juicing fresh fruits and vegetables as he told me to, but in retrospect, I think

the

apple and beet juice fed on the yeast, and made us blow up. Then my friend

found out about Sunrider on a trip to California and was extremely impressed

about how it made her feel after her cousin made her a fresh fruit herbal

smoothy. I was very reluctant, but she was persistent and showed me how to make

them. That was the turning point in our improved health. I learned so much

from her and not only was purchasing the herbs for the smoothies, but their

Fruit

and Vegetable rinse, which is the best and makes my produce taste better and

last longer and of course herbicide and pesticide free, and I would never be

without the Calli tea which kills off the free radicals in the body. I truly

believe that the ancient Chinese knew much more than today's medical doctors. In

those days, the doctors were paid only if they made their patients well.

That would be laughed at today by the medical profession, as they have their

hands out for kickbacks from the drug companies, and not many are not really

caring about a patients well being. Of course there are exceptions, no doubt.

When I started eating healthier and feeding my family healthier food, I

watched them and myself grow out of this disease and get our lives back. Seeing

them go to school every day was the greatest reward.

I really don't know how we got Lyme, but my theory is that it was lying

dormant for a long time and all of that stress allowed it to surface. I also

know

for a fact that it is very common for Lyme to run in families and there was

another family around the corner from us and they were all sick as well.

Continue to feel well, and no offense taken. We love and have faith in what

has lifted us out of the pits of illness.

All my best,

Sue

March 3, 2005

Pardon my ignorance, but what are glyconutrients?

Thanks,

Cactus

>

> Sue,

>

> What a horrible time you had to go thru. It is hard to forgive

these

> doctors some times, but they are just human. My huband had similar

> experiences but we thought it was mostly due to the fact that he

was

> going to the VA hospital. So they think everytime you show up you

are

> just looking for drugs. They told him he was crazy also, after all

your

> a veteran you must be nuts. My husband thought he was dying from

Agent

> Orange a chemical that had been sprayed on him during Viet Nam. He

told

> everyone he would be dead within 3 months. That is when we first

got

> serious about some cleansing and nutrition, the doctors were giving

him

> MOtrin! The cleansing seemed get him over some of his acute

symptoms,

> but the chronic joint pain, and heart problems continued, as well

as he

> was always extremely hot. He had only done the ABX for 10 days and

this

> was quite a few years prior, so it took us while to realize it was

> probably lyme. It has been 1 year since we started the new routine,

and

> no matter what anyone says, I believe if the body is given

everything it

> needs, it can fight just as hard as any abx, I think even better.

Here

> is an example. LAst summer my nephew who has had full blown aids

for 17

> years was dying of pneumonia. He had been on abx for 3 weeks, and

they

> had switched to diffferent kinds every week. They called the family

to

> his bedside to say goodbye, was not expected to make it thru the

nite.

> We all prayed and he did make it thru that nite, against all odds.

My

> husband and I made arrangements for large amounts of Glyconutrients

to

> be delivered to one of the family members at the hospital that next

day.

> He was given large amounts for 3 days, and on the 3rd day they

reduced

> his oxegen from 100% to 50%, he had bloated up with gas like a dead

cow,

> from the candidia dieoff, and was miserable from that, but on day 4

was

> breathing on his own and day 5 released from the hospital. He

recovered

> very quickly and the most amazing part is that several months later

with

> several repeated tests (doctors can't believe it) he has no visible

> signs of the aids virus in his blood! His t-cell count which was

below

> 50, really bad, was up to 264. I just spoke with him last nite, and

now

> the only thing he is dealing with is high blood pressure, which I

told

> him we would work on next, and of course continuing to get the t-

cell

> count up. I am so glad you are all well, as we are glad we are well

> also, I am thankful every day for our health. I only wish others

could

> realize their bodies n eed support, especially is they chose drugs

which

> work against the body. Stay well,

>

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March 2, 2006

Regarding Manatech products: This is an excellent product and probably

will give you the most value for your money.

My daughter was positively diagnosed with MS in 2000 at the age of 25.

She had extreme reflex reactions, an MRI showed the lesions on her brain and

spinal cord, and a spinal tap revealed the protein which is the positive

diagnostic marker for MS. Her symptoms included numbness from her waist down,

falling on occasion, and the inablity to keep up with someone walking even

slowly. She had difficulty manuevering stairs, weakness in her wrists, and the

whites of her eyes were blood red. She suffered extreme fatigue and pain as

though she always had an earache, and incontinence.

Shortly after she was diagnosed, I was laid off work and I no longer had

insurance coverage. The doctor had prescribed Avonex, an experimental drug with

no guarantees. This was to cost us over $1000/month. Of course, this was

impossible for us to pay with my being out of work, and no other resources were

available to us at the time.

We turned to the internet for help and found truehope.com. We purchased

those supplements and her symptoms subsided rapidly. They cost about $80/month.

The main disadvantage was that she had to take quite a few of the capsules and

sometimes they would stick in her throat. Then my brother told us about

Manatech and she started using Ambrotose. This was just as effective and cost

less than $40/month. She has since married and had two children. As long as

she takes these supplements she doesn't have any problems with symptoms.

That is our experience with Manatech. Whether it is MS or anything else,

your body requires certain essential nutrients in order to be able to repair

itself, and Manatech is one of the products that fullfills that requirement.

Blessing to you all!

fmschwegler wrote: Anyone heard of the company or their glyconutrients

products? I was referred to them today and someone actually offered to get me

hooked up and started. I like to hear things from others and do research before

I just jump into something.

If anyone has " any " information both good or bad I would appreciate

some insight and wisdom about them and their products.

Thank you all, Frann

March 3, 2006

Hi. There is a glyconutrient group on . If you search it you can find out

how to make it yourself for about $25 at the most. I believe Mannatech is

grossly overcharging to pay for the multi media aspects.

I went into it and paid over $1000 and was sorry. I believe glyconutrients are

really important though. Do a search on google but in the DONT INCLUDE words

type in Mannatech.

Toni

Frann wrote:

Anyone heard of the company or their glyconutrients products?

March 3, 2006

My friend's husband with brain cancer took about 3 jars of Mannatech but didnt

help at all. My friend has breast cancer and it didnt help her either. Cliff

died and Ruth got much worse but with other treatments now she has improved out

of sight. I do think glyconutrients good though but can obtain a lot cheaper

elsewhere. There is a product called Mannapol Plus. Not sure but I think it's

glyconutrients. I might have remembered that wrong.

March 3, 2006

Frann,

My husband takes it because after 2 brain surgeries and radiation he

was experiencing major fatigue and short term memory issues. He has

glioblastoma which is a very aggresive form of brain cancer. He has

been tumor free for 27 months which is a miracle. I don't acredit the

Ambrotose for that but we do believe it has helped his memory issues

and fatigue. He runs our company and works full time plus skis, rides

his bike 90 miles a week and does volunteer work at a food pantry 3

days a week. I have not looked into the other products because we are

pleased with this one and I also don't want to be mixing products. I

spend so much time now mixing and matching supplements ect. and I want

to make it easy on myself. I will be interested tho in what you find!

Frann wrote:

> Anyone heard of the company or their glyconutrients products?

March 3, 2006

This friend that has improved out of sight can you tell me was it a he/she and

was it breast cancer? What were they using? I have been on the Enzymatic

Therapy Cell Forte since I found out my diagnosis and I am wondering if its run

its course, how long do you stay on one thing like that? I am doing lots of

other stuff but..... Frann

Thank you for the Mannatech information

Toni s wrote:

My friend's husband with brain cancer took about 3 jars of Mannatech but didnt

help at all. My friend has breast cancer and it didnt help her either. Cliff

died and Ruth got much worse but with other treatments now she has improved out

of sight. I do think glyconutrients good though but can obtain a lot cheaper

elsewhere. There is a product called Mannapol Plus. Not sure but I think it's

glyconutrients. I might have remembered that wrong.

March 3, 2006

Frances: How were you able to purchase just the Ambrotose from this company for

that amount or was it from truehope,com? There site shows a newer formula of

this product I think they refer to advanced. I would try it for that price as

long as I didn't have to get overly committed. Thank you for the post and I hope

your daughter is doing great well. Frann

Frances Emerson wrote: Regarding Manatech products: This is an excellent

product and probably will give you the most value for your money. My daughter

was positively diagnosed with MS in 2000 at the age of 25. .................