Re: Malabsorption & poor fat digestion question

[Guest guest]

My son is very normal, slender but never thin and he has fatty acid absorbtion

problems. Inositol has been the biggest help for that. We initially could not

give him fish or cod liver oils because he would wake up in the night screaming

and with breath that smelled like fish. His breath would smell that way with

any fats that he couldnt handle. He still has absorption problems, which we can

tell by bumps on his arms and dry skin, those are a better sign. Look at it

this way, most americans are overweight but lack good fats. Body weight can

easily come from carbs and sugar.

Elaine

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[Guest guest]

>

> Just out of curiosity - if a person has malabsorption issue and/or

is unable to breakdown and

> digest fats properly would they likely be on the skinny side? I'm

guessing that if you aren't

> absorbing nutrients or aren't breaking down fats (you excrete them?)

then you must be on

> the thin side? Is this right?

My son had mitochondrial issues. He did not digest fats at all. He

was also severely deficient in most nutrients. When he was an infant

and young child, he was a very fat baby. I have corrected his mito

issues and his nutritional deficiencies, and now he is normal in

weight. So no, it does not necessarily mean skinny.

Dana

[Guest guest]

I agree. Many who can't utilize sugars and/or fats will store them

as fat. It depends where the problem occurs. If you can't absorb it

into the bloodstream from the digestive system and it passes out of

the body, you will be skinny. If you can't digest it or utilize it

properly but *can* absorb it from the digestive system (for example,

you have a leaky gut that will allow larger, undigested molecules

through), your body can store it and you can get fat.

mother of Adam

> >

> > Just out of curiosity - if a person has malabsorption issue and/or

> is unable to breakdown and

> > digest fats properly would they likely be on the skinny side? I'm

> guessing that if you aren't

> > absorbing nutrients or aren't breaking down fats (you excrete

them?)

> then you must be on

> > the thin side? Is this right?

>

>

> My son had mitochondrial issues. He did not digest fats at all. He

> was also severely deficient in most nutrients. When he was an

infant

> and young child, he was a very fat baby. I have corrected his mito

> issues and his nutritional deficiencies, and now he is normal in

> weight. So no, it does not necessarily mean skinny.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

Great thread and very applicable to me right now. My daughter,

since starting SCD has shown fabulous weight gain (looks to be about

33 - 35 pounds in 6-8 weeks on SCD after holding tight at 30 pounds

for 6 months). However, I am not seeing a corresponding height

increase. She has a wonderful little chub look (round, full

cheeks), she looks healthy. BUT - I'd like to see her grow, she has

been low percentiles for height (5th). She has horrible leaky gut -

so digesting but not metabolising (is that right??). What are some

things that can help with the metabolising and improve upward

growth? I have heard carnitine/even taurine??? Thanks!

> > >

> > > Just out of curiosity - if a person has malabsorption issue

and/or

> > is unable to breakdown and

> > > digest fats properly would they likely be on the skinny side?

I'm

> > guessing that if you aren't

> > > absorbing nutrients or aren't breaking down fats (you excrete

> them?)

> > then you must be on

> > > the thin side? Is this right?

> >

> >

> > My son had mitochondrial issues. He did not digest fats at

all. He

> > was also severely deficient in most nutrients. When he was an

> infant

> > and young child, he was a very fat baby. I have corrected his

mito

> > issues and his nutritional deficiencies, and now he is normal in

> > weight. So no, it does not necessarily mean skinny.

> >

> > Dana

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>>BUT - I'd like to see her grow, she has

> been low percentiles for height (5th). She has horrible leaky gut -

> so digesting but not metabolising (is that right??).

Depends on the leaky gut issue. It can be failure to digest, failure

to absorb, or failure of metabolism.

My son's gut was healed with digestive enzymes, a few food removals,

several supplements especially B vitamins and selenium, and ALA chelation.

>>What are some

> things that can help with the metabolising and improve upward

> growth?

For my #3, who is proportionately smaller than his siblings, it was

chelation and anti-virals that produced the nice growth increase.

>>I have heard carnitine/even taurine???

Carnitine helps for muscle tone issues, and also fat metabolism as

part of mito cocktail. Taurine is good for chemical sensitivity, fat

metabolism [this was essential for my son's fat metabolism] and it

helps seizures for some kids.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Thanks Dana! Once again... a wise woman of experience. I

appreciate it. We are doing enzymes - helping tons. I had been

pouring down the supplements and then backed down because I realized

I had no idea what the heck I was doing and it was all probably

being wasted due to leaky gut issues. I am going to start back up

but slow and more picky about what ones I give her. I am hoping it

will help. Right now we are just enzymes, probiotic, colostrum,

milk thistle, CLO, candex and a little OOO. Just added in zinc

actually. Anyway, do you know of a sublingual B vitamin?? I am

trying to find a good one. She is so yeasty I want to stay away

from oral. Any input welcome! I have ordered selenium, and plan on

adding in vitamin C, EFA's, magnesium oil, and I'd like to add in

the taurine and mito cocktail. Thanks so much! -- In

, " danasview " <danasview@...> wrote:

>

>

> >>BUT - I'd like to see her grow, she has

> > been low percentiles for height (5th). She has horrible leaky

gut -

> > so digesting but not metabolising (is that right??).

>

>

> Depends on the leaky gut issue. It can be failure to digest,

failure

> to absorb, or failure of metabolism.

>

> My son's gut was healed with digestive enzymes, a few food

removals,

> several supplements especially B vitamins and selenium, and ALA

chelation.

>

>

> >>What are some

> > things that can help with the metabolising and improve upward

> > growth?

>

>

> For my #3, who is proportionately smaller than his siblings, it was

> chelation and anti-virals that produced the nice growth increase.

>

>

> >>I have heard carnitine/even taurine???

>

>

> Carnitine helps for muscle tone issues, and also fat metabolism as

> part of mito cocktail. Taurine is good for chemical sensitivity,

fat

> metabolism [this was essential for my son's fat metabolism] and it

> helps seizures for some kids.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

>>Anyway, do you know of a sublingual B vitamin??

I used sublingual B12, from my local health food store.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Don't know if it's generally true, but I have fat absorption issues and

I'm skinny (less skinny since I started enzymes!).

G.

chlobot wrote:

> Just out of curiosity - if a person has malabsorption issue and/or is

> unable to breakdown and

> digest fats properly would they likely be on the skinny side? I'm

> guessing that if you aren't

> absorbing nutrients or aren't breaking down fats (you excrete them?)

> then you must be on

> the thin side? Is this right?

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Don't know if it's generally true, but I have fat absorption issues and

> I'm skinny (less skinny since I started enzymes!).

My son had fat absorption issues. I wrote on this page what he needed

to eliminate that problem

http://www.danasview.net/issues.htm

Dana

[Guest guest]

Yeah, I have recent gallbladder and fat absorption/digestion

problems and I keep losing weight and if I lose anymore people are

going to start thinking I am aneroxic or bulimic. I'm not! Jen w---

In , G <jsbach@...> wrote:

>

> Don't know if it's generally true, but I have fat absorption

issues and

> I'm skinny (less skinny since I started enzymes!).

>

> G.

>

> chlobot wrote:

>

> > Just out of curiosity - if a person has malabsorption issue

and/or is

> > unable to breakdown and

> > digest fats properly would they likely be on the skinny side?

I'm

> > guessing that if you aren't

> > absorbing nutrients or aren't breaking down fats (you excrete

them?)

> > then you must be on

> > the thin side? Is this right?

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Have you tried lypo( a fat digesting enzyme from enymedica) and

prosphatidylcholine( I once heard it is another name for lecithin?)?

I have gallbladder issues, and between these and dana's mito cocktail

am much better..and mine was terrible....I also take milk thistle

too....the cocktail wasn't enough for me...so I added the other two

and things are much better....can't go off the lypo for long..but is

better than pain or surgery..

hth

Ronni

> Yeah, I have recent gallbladder and fat absorption/digestion

> problems and I keep losing weight and if I lose anymore people are

> going to start thinking I am aneroxic or bulimic. I'm not! Jen w---

> In , G <jsbach@> wrote:

> >

> > Don't know if it's generally true, but I have fat absorption

> issues and

> > I'm skinny (less skinny since I started enzymes!).

> >

> > G.

> >

> > chlobot wrote:

> >

> > > Just out of curiosity - if a person has malabsorption issue

> and/or is

> > > unable to breakdown and

> > > digest fats properly would they likely be on the skinny side?

> I'm

> > > guessing that if you aren't

> > > absorbing nutrients or aren't breaking down fats (you excrete

> them?)

> > > then you must be on

> > > the thin side? Is this right?

> > >

> > >

> >

>