Re: Brainchild vitamins and stimming/hyperactivity

[Guest guest]

It sounds to me like he's taking a vitamin formula with too much B6 in

it for his needs, and possibly not enough minerals. Increasing

minerals is usually calming. B vitamins, especially B6, are very

helpful to the brain, helping it " connect " better, but can be too much

of a good thing, and cause overactive behavior in excess. I would

suggest increasing minerals by 25% and decreasing vitamins by 25%, and

watch to see what you see for a day or two. If this helps some, that

will confirm my suspicions, and you can call BrainChild and we'll

arrange to get you a bottle of a lower-B6 formula of vitamins, which

should work better for his needs. Btw, you really can't overdose

minerals, so don't worry about the increased dosage, it's just to see

if they might help calm him down.

Terri at Brainchild

mom to Zane, 13yo hfa

>

> I thought the enzymes had " plateaued " about 2 weeks ago; we have

> seen amazing gains on them since the end of May, but the calmness

> disappeared about 4 weeks ago.

>

> Ben has been hyper, ticcing/stimming, and has that hair-trigger

> frustration/freakout reaction that is, in many ways, the single

> hardest behavior for me to deal with.

>

> Then last weekend he unexpectedly spent 2 nights at my in-law's

> house. He had his enzymes and CLO, but no vitamins. 5 weeks ago I

> started him on BrainChild Spectrum Support II vitamins and minerals.

>

> He came home calm as could be, and my in-laws reported that he was

> great, played well with cousins, etc.

>

> Within 2 days home he was hyper and stimmy/ticcy again. I ordered

> No Phenol out of concern for yeast (so far we're only using AFP

> Peptizide and Zyme Prime) but it hasn't arrived yet. I've added

> magnesium/potassium over the past week, with improvement, but he's

> nowhere near as calm as he was a month ago.

>

> Yesterday I upped the BrainChild to 5/8 tsp per serving and he was

> SO TICCY and out of control in his body. Then off he went with his

> father to Cape Cod for a day on the beach with family. DH said he

> got better as the day went on.

>

> Could it be the TMG in BrainChild?

>

> I didn't give him any this morning (just CLO, mag/pot so far) and

> he's a dream. He even had WHEAT blueberry pancakes for breakfast

> (with enzymes) and he's great. We homeschool and I'm administering

> tests to him--he normaly hates them but sat well for 30 minutes this

> morning and did quite fine. THAT is a huge improvement.

>

> Help!

>

[Guest guest]

My son had a similar reaction to Brainchilds multi vitamin (mierals were fine

and I just got

the sensitive formula. Started really low and slow and then switched to support

II which he

now tolerates fine.

It may be the TMG or maybe just the B vitamins.

Good luck,

Haleh

>

> I thought the enzymes had " plateaued " about 2 weeks ago; we have

> seen amazing gains on them since the end of May, but the calmness

> disappeared about 4 weeks ago.

>

> Ben has been hyper, ticcing/stimming, and has that hair-trigger

> frustration/freakout reaction that is, in many ways, the single

> hardest behavior for me to deal with.

>

> Then last weekend he unexpectedly spent 2 nights at my in-law's

> house. He had his enzymes and CLO, but no vitamins. 5 weeks ago I

> started him on BrainChild Spectrum Support II vitamins and minerals.

>

> He came home calm as could be, and my in-laws reported that he was

> great, played well with cousins, etc.

>

> Within 2 days home he was hyper and stimmy/ticcy again. I ordered

> No Phenol out of concern for yeast (so far we're only using AFP

> Peptizide and Zyme Prime) but it hasn't arrived yet. I've added

> magnesium/potassium over the past week, with improvement, but he's

> nowhere near as calm as he was a month ago.

>

> Yesterday I upped the BrainChild to 5/8 tsp per serving and he was

> SO TICCY and out of control in his body. Then off he went with his

> father to Cape Cod for a day on the beach with family. DH said he

> got better as the day went on.

>

> Could it be the TMG in BrainChild?

>

> I didn't give him any this morning (just CLO, mag/pot so far) and

> he's a dream. He even had WHEAT blueberry pancakes for breakfast

> (with enzymes) and he's great. We homeschool and I'm administering

> tests to him--he normaly hates them but sat well for 30 minutes this

> morning and did quite fine. THAT is a huge improvement.

>

> Help!

>

[Guest guest]

Just echoing a couple things Haleh said:

1. Children are often later able to tolerate our higher formulas,

after a few months of taking the lower ones. This is probably because

the body is assimilating nutrients a little better. They also often

start really growing again after a few months on the formulas, for the

same reason, we think.

2. We find that it's much, much more often the B vitamins causing it

than the TMG, when we see the overactive/anxious behaviors.

3. It is extremely common for the same kids who have some amount of

overactive behavior when starting the supplements to be the same ones

who have really nice gains, once we get the dose right and go slow

enough introducing it.

Terri

[Guest guest]

> Within 2 days home he was hyper and stimmy/ticcy again. I ordered

> No Phenol out of concern for yeast (so far we're only using AFP

> Peptizide and Zyme Prime) but it hasn't arrived yet. I've added

> magnesium/potassium over the past week, with improvement, but he's

> nowhere near as calm as he was a month ago.

One of my kids had tics with yeast overgrowth, and B vitamins tend to

feed yeast. Give a much lower dose of the BC vitamins, and give it

with No-Fenol and probiotics, see if that helps.

Dana