Re: Enzymes and time release medications(focalin xr)?

[Guest guest]

Guys,

I answered my own question. I call HoustonNI and found out that of

their products, only No-Fenol is determined to have a possible effect

on time-release medications. Good to know.

Laurie

>

> I saw a snippit somewhere on this board about the interaction of

> enzymes and time release medications but now I can't find it. I am

> trying to figure out if its necessarily a bad thing to try the

enzymes

> with Focalin XR (timed release). I have a call into my pediatrician

> but am expecting to not get much enthusiasm for enzymes. I could be

> wrong. If I'm right, I'm going to start looking for another ped.

>

> Does anyone know what may occur with enzymes and a time release med?

>

> Thanks so much, you are all very helpful!

>

> Laurie

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Folks,

Just wanted to relate my experience with Zyme Prime and my son's Concerta.

It only happenned once, but when he took the enzyme while he was on Concerta,

he seemed overmedicated, saying that he 'felt like I'm going to jump out of

my skin'. Concerta is a 12 hour med for ADHD, and I did not combine with

enzymes again after that. Just wanted to let you know.

Laurie S.

[Guest guest]

> Just wanted to relate my experience with Zyme Prime and my son's

Concerta.

> It only happenned once, but when he took the enzyme while he was on

Concerta,

> he seemed overmedicated, saying that he 'felt like I'm going to

jump out of

> my skin'. Concerta is a 12 hour med for ADHD, and I did not

combine with

> enzymes again after that. Just wanted to let you know.

Sometimes, the child needs medication because of the effects of the

foods he is eating. So giving enzymes removes those effects, and the

dose of medication is then too high. This can happen even with

regular medication, not time-release. So, your child might have been

experiencing something like that.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Hello,

I believe that I read somewhere that certain enzymes can break down

the protective coating that coats time-released meds, therefore making

the meds hit all at once. Maybe you could call HNI and ak if the zyme

Prime contains certain enzymes that have the ability to do that. Hope

this helps.

HEather

> Hi Folks,

>

> Just wanted to relate my experience with Zyme Prime and my son's

Concerta.

> It only happenned once, but when he took the enzyme while he was on

Concerta,

> he seemed overmedicated, saying that he 'felt like I'm going to

jump out of

> my skin'. Concerta is a 12 hour med for ADHD, and I did not

combine with

> enzymes again after that. Just wanted to let you know.

>

> Laurie S.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I had the same experience with my daughter. She becam a walking

somby, she could not function any more. We ended up taking her off

the Concerta. She did better on just Zyme Prime, Magnesiem and

Omega 3,6,9.

>

> Hi Folks,

>

> Just wanted to relate my experience with Zyme Prime and my son's

Concerta.

> It only happenned once, but when he took the enzyme while he was

on Concerta,

> he seemed overmedicated, saying that he 'felt like I'm going to

jump out of

> my skin'. Concerta is a 12 hour med for ADHD, and I did not

combine with

> enzymes again after that. Just wanted to let you know.

>

> Laurie S.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/11/2007 6:54:12 AM Pacific Standard Time,

danasview@... writes:

Just wanted to relate my experience with Zyme Prime and my son's

Concerta.

my ds just started concerta. so, do enzymes while on this? didnt know. tx

for info (that is, if i understood the email correctly).

vicki

[Guest guest]

>>>>I call HoustonNI and found out that of their products, only No-

Fenol is determined to have a possible effect on time-release

medications.

The caution concerns time-released medications and *cellulase*

enzymes. The two Zyme Primes HNI makes contain cellulase, so I would

extend that caution to include the Zyme Primes in addition to No-

Fenol. This is also consistent with what the other posters said.

>>>>I saw a snippit somewhere on this board about the interaction of

enzymes and time release medications but now I can't find it.

SOME time-release medications, not all of them, are made using

cellulose as part of the product. Cellulose is basically indigestible

by humans. Cellulose is added to slow down the digestion of the

medication, and thus, give the product its time-release property. If

you take cellulase enzymes which break down cellulose, the enzymes may

speed up the digestion of the medication and mess up the time-release

action.

In order to find out if YOUR particular time-release medication use

cellulose as part of the time-release action, you will need to

research that product individually. But this takes some effort. If you

do not know or are waiting to find out about your time-release

medication, it is wise to avoid taking any cellulase with the time-

release med as a precaution. If you find out cellulase enzymes do not

affect your time-release med, then it isn't a problem taking both

cellulase and the med together. Several years ago I saw this snippet

on the Enzymedica site under their Candidase, and pursued what was

behind it. Now, fortunately, most of the enzyme sites are conveying

this insight. It helps everyone be able to make sound decisions.

>>>I am trying to figure out if its necessarily a bad thing to try the

> enzymes with Focalin XR (timed release).

I very recently researched this for a colleague in my office whose son

started this and enzymes. Focalin is the 'new and improved' version of

a med in the class of Ritalin/Concerta stimulant type medications. One

of the side affects is that it can cause nausea or upset stomach. I

know a concern of my co-worker was their son wasn't eating well and

small for his age. I asked if the boy had been eating less since

starting the med. He said unfortunately yes. The Focalin site notes

this reducation in weight gain/height growth as well (see bottom

paragragh under Safety at http://www.focalinxr.com/). Not trying to

dissuade you from this course, but just a caution if you notice a

change in eating patterns with this or similar meds and it is alread a

concern.

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