Guest guest Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 Kathy, I am printing this out. Thank you for sharing this in such an easy to understand format. If only I could understand how this affects over and undermethylation! Robyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 I love to hear things like this. Just the removal of milk and wheat and all the improvements you noticed. The diet did nothing for us, but think, for all the reasons you outlined, everyone should give it a 2-3 week trial. Great! Kathleen, A medical hypothesis...or hypotheses... > After reading all the literature that has just come out about gluten > ataxia, I have a new hypothetical understanding about the vaccines > and how they affect our kids, and why the GFCF diets and/or are > helpful...in addition to all the obvious stuff about mercury > poisoning that we know already. > > 1. The primary site of mercury excretion in the poisoned individual > is in the BILE. > > 2. The bile is excreted, full of toxic mercury, into the SMALL > INTESTINE. > > 3. The poison then destroys the normal enzyme systems of the small > intestine, which are found in the delicate brush border of the > villi. It is not necessary to cause villous atrophy as in celiac > disease to do this. > > 4. The child on a normal American diet continues to consume gluten > in wheat, rye, barley and casein in milk, cheese etc. But the enzymes > that should break these down into amino acids are weak or missing > entirely after being destroyed or inactivated by the mercury in the > bile. There may also be trouble digesting other foods, such as > lactose, fats, or sucrose. Chronic diarrhea, constipation or > malabsorption may ensue, and may cause insufficient absorption of > essential fatty acids or fat-soluble vitamins such as vitamin A or > vitamin K. > > 5. One or both of the following occur: > a. The gluten and casein are broken down incompletely into the > opioid peptides that cause the child to act as if drugged with a > narcotic. (This is an older suggestion for why these diets work, and > has some substantiation.) > > B. The lining of the intestines is damaged in a way similar to > celiac disease, and autoantibodies to the enzyme tissue > transglutaminase then are produced. These autoantibodies further > damage not only the intestinal lining, but also the Purkinje cells of > the cerebellum. This affects the developing vestibular functioning > of the brain and accounts for many of the sensory integration > dysfunction symptoms that we see in our kids. Dysarthria is also seen > in individuals with gluten ataxia, which means that it could also > affect speech. Purkinje cells are damaged in autopsies of autistic > individuals. > > 6. The mercury also has an effect on immune function and makes the > children more vulnerable to subsequently given live virus vaccines > and infections. This would account for latent virus infections with > chickenpox and measles vaccines affecting the cranial nerves or the > intestines, for example. The cranial nerves are involved with > hearing, speech, swallowing, and nearly all the systems our kids have > difficulty with. > > 7. The intestinal permeability that is produced by 5B, above, also > gets into a vicious cycle with yeast and intestinal dysbiosis. This > affects the neurotransmitters that we now know are produced in the > gut as well as the brain. > > 8. Because of the problems with oral sensory and motor function as > well as intestinal reactions to food, and anxiety based on inability > to communicate, some children develop severe food aversions. This > creates a vicious cycle with inadequate nutrition affecting development. > > 9. Often the persons around the child, especially in educational or > therapeutic settings, fail to distinguish between a child who is > sick, reacting to foods, brain-injured, doesn't understand, or > simply frightened, and one who is " oppositional " or unwilling to > comply. This leads to a destruction of basic trust, which causes > more withdrawal and another vicious cycle. The parents can often > play a large role in interrupting this cycle if their child can learn > to trust them, at least. Note that this is the only non-biological > factor in all of this noxious cycle of events. > > For those of you who may be interested in the medical literature, > look up articles by M. Hadjivassiliou, MD, et. al. in Neurology, > 2006:373-337, and in J. Neuro Neurosurg Psychiatry, 2003, > 74;1221-1230., and Neurology 2002;58:1221-1226. > Those references are for the gluten ataxia and its treatment and > serological associations. The other ideas came from my reading over > the past two years, and our experience with Ben. Any researchers out > there that want to test any of this, feel free...I'm not claiming any > of this as intellectual property...just my ideas. > > Benny's fecal antigliadin IgA was 24 (normal 0-9), and his antitissue > transglutaminase and fecal anti-casein IgA tests were also positive. > He was and is greatly helped by the enzymes, but now after one week > on a strict gluten free diet he is potty trained, and incredibly > improved with respect to vestibular functioning--all of a sudden > willing to go on the carousel, the boat rides, the Tower Ride at > Silver Springs...AND balance himself on an adult toilet. All of this > he refused to do at all before. > > Thanks for letting me put together my thinking on this. > > Peace, > Kathy E. > Kathleen_E@... > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 Kathleen Eickwort wrote: > > After reading all the literature that has just come out about gluten > ataxia, I have a new hypothetical understanding about the vaccines > and how they affect our kids, and why the GFCF diets and/or are > helpful...in addition to all the obvious stuff about mercury > poisoning that we know already. > This makes perfect sense to me and it is pretty much my opinions on this issue. I feel I am one of those people that holds onto toxic substances and that is why I have 2 special needs kids. I have flourodsis(sp?)-darkened teeth with white spots and to me this shows that I do not metabolize toxic substances properly. I feel that I passed these toxic substances on to my kids through the placenta and through my milk. I breastfed for many years. I am pg with my third now and I am concerned about this baby too, but what can I do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 There's lots you can do! And, I know this is not exactly the most cheerful thought, but if your children's problems truly do stem from your own toxic load, and there havent been any big intervening factors (like a bunch of dental work or something) then baby #3 is possibly in better shape than babies 1 and 2 b/c you have passed a lot of your toxic load to the first 2 already (some people say there is no better way to chelate a woman than to get her pregnant - I know, not cheerful but there you have it). Even IF the issue is your toxic load, there is still a lot you can do (or perhaps you have already done this stuff - if so, forgive the list!): You can go GFCF yourself and/or do it in combination with taking HNI enzymes yourself You can make sure your own gut is in as good a shape as possible (probiotics/yeast killers etc) You can make sure your anti-oxidant and mineral status is in good shape by supplementing You can consider taking omegas You can avoid fish You can eat organic when ever possible You can take out basic toxins (aluminum deodorant, aluminum cookware, etc etc) You can get yourself the most intervention-free prenatal and birth care possible You can avoid early cord clamping You can choose not to vaccinate Good luck with this pregnancy!!!! Josie I am pg with my third now and I am concerned about this baby too, but what can I do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 Josie, you're such a sweet, caring, upbeat person. Next time I'm feeling down, I am going to ask you for a pick-me-up talk. I have been feeling sad lately- I am worried about my son's future. He's 5 yrs asd. He's not toilet trained, not talking, and doesn't understand much of what is said to him. Is the best I can hope for for him to end up in a good group home? I'm really worried, and saddened by what his life is, and will be. I guess I'm asking for that pick-me-up talk sooner than you thought, hey? Thanks. Amber. On 2/23/06, Josie Lecraw <josie.nelson@...> wrote: > > There's lots you can do! > > > > And, I know this is not exactly the most cheerful thought, but if your > children's problems truly do stem from your own toxic load, and there > havent > been any big intervening factors (like a bunch of dental work or > something) > then baby #3 is possibly in better shape than babies 1 and 2 b/c you have > passed a lot of your toxic load to the first 2 already (some people say > there is no better way to chelate a woman than to get her pregnant - I > know, > not cheerful but there you have it). > > > > Even IF the issue is your toxic load, there is still a lot you can do (or > perhaps you have already done this stuff - if so, forgive the list!): > > You can go GFCF yourself and/or do it in combination with taking HNI > enzymes > yourself > > You can make sure your own gut is in as good a shape as possible > (probiotics/yeast killers etc) > > You can make sure your anti-oxidant and mineral status is in good shape by > supplementing > > You can consider taking omegas > > You can avoid fish > > You can eat organic when ever possible > > You can take out basic toxins (aluminum deodorant, aluminum cookware, etc > etc) > > You can get yourself the most intervention-free prenatal and birth care > possible > > You can avoid early cord clamping > > You can choose not to vaccinate > > > > Good luck with this pregnancy!!!! > > > > Josie > > > > > > > > I am pg with my third > now and I am concerned about this baby too, but what can I do? > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 Hey Amber: What a nice message. Thanks so much!!! Listen, the best pick-me-up I can give you (or anyone) is this: Get yourself a box of tissues and go directly to www.danwebcast.com <http://www.danwebcast.com/> , register if you haven't already (it's free) and watch the videos of recovered kids. Then watch it again. And again. Then watch all the OTHER videos if you haven't already. It is great inspiring stuff!!! There is nothing easy about any of this. You wouldn't be normal if it didn't get to you sometimes. Hang in there!!! Josie Re: Re: A medical hypothesis...or hypotheses... Josie, you're such a sweet, caring, upbeat person. Next time I'm feeling down, I am going to ask you for a pick-me-up talk. I have been feeling sad lately- I am worried about my son's future. He's 5 yrs asd. He's not toilet trained, not talking, and doesn't understand much of what is said to him. Is the best I can hope for for him to end up in a good group home? I'm really worried, and saddened by what his life is, and will be. I guess I'm asking for that pick-me-up talk sooner than you thought, hey? Thanks. Amber. On 2/23/06, Josie Lecraw <josie.nelson@...> wrote: > > There's lots you can do! > > > > And, I know this is not exactly the most cheerful thought, but if your > children's problems truly do stem from your own toxic load, and there > havent > been any big intervening factors (like a bunch of dental work or > something) > then baby #3 is possibly in better shape than babies 1 and 2 b/c you have > passed a lot of your toxic load to the first 2 already (some people say > there is no better way to chelate a woman than to get her pregnant - I > know, > not cheerful but there you have it). > > > > Even IF the issue is your toxic load, there is still a lot you can do (or > perhaps you have already done this stuff - if so, forgive the list!): > > You can go GFCF yourself and/or do it in combination with taking HNI > enzymes > yourself > > You can make sure your own gut is in as good a shape as possible > (probiotics/yeast killers etc) > > You can make sure your anti-oxidant and mineral status is in good shape by > supplementing > > You can consider taking omegas > > You can avoid fish > > You can eat organic when ever possible > > You can take out basic toxins (aluminum deodorant, aluminum cookware, etc > etc) > > You can get yourself the most intervention-free prenatal and birth care > possible > > You can avoid early cord clamping > > You can choose not to vaccinate > > > > Good luck with this pregnancy!!!! > > > > Josie > > > > > > > > I am pg with my third > now and I am concerned about this baby too, but what can I do? > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 Our children certainly are each a puzzle, and I offered the hypothesis e-mail not to pressure anyone to try any particular intervention but because it does offer multiple avenues for intervention. Please let me illustrate what I mean by that, I can't get the Rich Text Editor to work for me so I put the suggestions between asterisks like ***this***.: > 1. The primary site of mercury excretion in the poisoned individual > is in the BILE. > > 2. The bile is excreted, full of toxic mercury, into the SMALL > INTESTINE. ***Avoid giving vaccines containing thimerosal whenever possible. If it's too late, see below.*** > > 3. The poison then destroys the normal enzyme systems of the small > intestine, which are found in the delicate brush border of the > villi. It is not necessary to cause villous atrophy as in celiac > disease to do this. ***Test for lactase deficiency (a stool test is available). Ask your doctor about using Lactaid or digestive enzymes if the child is lactose deficient or if he or she has abdominal pain, discomfort, or flatulence after drinking milk. Or avoid cow's milk and use Darifree or something the child tolerates instead.*** > > 4. The child on a normal American diet continues to consume gluten > in wheat, rye, barley and casein in milk, cheese etc. But the enzymes > that should break these down into amino acids are weak or missing > entirely after being destroyed or inactivated by the mercury in the > bile. There may also be trouble digesting other foods, such as > lactose, fats, or sucrose. Chronic diarrhea, constipation or > malabsorption may ensue, and may cause insufficient absorption of > essential fatty acids or fat-soluble vitamins such as vitamin A or > vitamin K. *** Supplement with essential fatty acids like ProEFA, vitamin A as in cod liver oil. Ask your doctor about vitamin K and vitamin E. Avoid too much sucrose and fructose if it is possible to do and still get enough calories into the child. *** > > 5. One or both of the following occur: > a. The gluten and casein are broken down incompletely into the > opioid peptides that cause the child to act as if drugged with a > narcotic. (This is an older suggestion for why these diets work, and > has some substantiation.) *** Get the child tested for urinary opioid peptides. DAN doctors may know about this test, I don't. Some of the peptides I understand may actually come from yeast.*** > > B. The lining of the intestines is damaged in a way similar to > celiac disease, and autoantibodies to the enzyme tissue > transglutaminase then are produced. These autoantibodies further > damage not only the intestinal lining, but also the Purkinje cells of > the cerebellum. This affects the developing vestibular functioning > of the brain and accounts for many of the sensory integration > dysfunction symptoms that we see in our kids. Dysarthria is also seen > in individuals with gluten ataxia, which means that it could also > affect speech. Purkinje cells are damaged in autopsies of autistic > individuals. ***Get the child tested for fecal antigliadin IgA antibodies and intestinal antitissue transglutaminase antibodies, and HLA tissue type to help rule celiac disease in or out. I certainly wouldn't want to put my child through a small bowel biopsy, but some doctors might want to. If you have enough information from the stool tests, you may not need this. Also, quantitative IgA would help in the interpretation of these tests.*** > > 6. The mercury also has an effect on immune function and makes the > children more vulnerable to subsequently given live virus vaccines > and infections. This would account for latent virus infections with > chickenpox and measles vaccines affecting the cranial nerves or the > intestines, for example. The cranial nerves are involved with > hearing, speech, swallowing, and nearly all the systems our kids have > difficulty with. ***Have your child's immune function evaluated if possible before giving live virus vaccines, especially if there is a family history of immunodeficiency. Never vaccinate a child who is acutely ill. You may wish to consider whether your religious convictions would preclude vaccination or further vaccination for a particular vulnerable child--if so, you can get an exemption in most states--in Florida, from the County Health Dept. The child will be allowed to go to school except in the case of an epidemic (in which case you certainly would want to keep him or her home anyway). Consider the history of effects on siblings and other relatives in making this decision...for instance, my daughter, Benny's aunt, had grand mal seizures after her mumps vaccine at age 12. And he does have a family history of immunodeficiency. Those families that have a lot of autoimmune diseases like lupus, arthritis, ITP, diabetes, are more at risk. Varicella (chickenpox) is not a fatal disease and it is very dubious whether vaccination should be mandatory. For the result was shingles and pneumonia at age 4 after having the vaccine on his first birthday. Cave, MD has written a book on how to vaccinate more safely entitled " What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Childhood Vaccines. " This is a very personal decision, but giving a child an extra dose of vitamin C that day certainly cannot hurt, and insisting that vaccines be given later and spread out seems reasonable. Remember that the flu vaccine in multiple vials does have thimerosal, although this is the first year that there actually is one mercury free vaccine injection available to children. It may have other toxic substances in it. I probably sound like an anti-vaccine nut but I have seen too much. Political action for safer vaccines is badly needed.*** > > 7. The intestinal permeability that is produced by 5B, above, also > gets into a vicious cycle with yeast and intestinal dysbiosis. This > affects the neurotransmitters that we now know are produced in the > gut as well as the brain. ***Consult your physician about probiotics, or just give yogurt, etc. if the child is not casein-free. Check, perhaps with IgG tests or close observation, for other food reactions and allergies. Ask your physician about treating for yeast. (I'm not fond of Nystatin since it makes me dreadfully ill, but I guess some people think it is safe.) > > 8. Because of the problems with oral sensory and motor function as > well as intestinal reactions to food, and anxiety based on inability > to communicate, some children develop severe food aversions. This > creates a vicious cycle with inadequate nutrition affecting development. ***Be patient and give the child what he will eat, but not necessarily what he is addicted to (food allergies often present as food addictions). I wish we had a solution to this one. Texture is very important. Sameness may be. Supplement with food supplements that are chewable and acceptable or with something you can sneak into his juice, if he can drink juice and you can get away with it. Beware of speech therapists who say they are going to make your child eat. He may have good reason for not eating some things, and forcing him might very well worsen eating disorders. But sensory work with the mouth, " playing " with food in OT, etc. can gradually desensitize. (Watch out when your child starts writing prescriptions to limit his own diet, like Ben, LOL) Juice Plus, chewable multivitamins, ProEFA are all helpful.They say that normal children require an average of 9 presentations of a food before they will try it. Sometimes I think for our kids it is 900!*** > > 9. Often the persons around the child, especially in educational or > therapeutic settings, fail to distinguish between a child who is > sick, reacting to foods, brain-injured, doesn't understand, or > simply frightened, and one who is " oppositional " or unwilling to > comply. This leads to a destruction of basic trust, which causes > more withdrawal and another vicious cycle. The parents can often > play a large role in interrupting this cycle if their child can learn > to trust them, at least. Note that this is the only non-biological > factor in all of this noxious cycle of events. ***Love your kid. I think these kids are great and every one is a hero. I admire them, and I tell Ben so all the time. They have so much to overcome! One website said they are Always Under Terrible Internal Stress and made an anagram out of it. Speech therapy can be incredibly important because the lack of language communication erodes the development of the child's basic trust. PECS, electronic communication devices, sign language (which Ben couldn't use because of fine motor problems), also. Remember that the major developmental issue of young children up to age five is the development of basic trust. Abuse breaks this down. You know your child better than anybody else. Personally, I would never leave a young, non-verbal child with a therapist without a parent or parent substitute there. Trust your gut instinct, you love your child just the way he is, and if someone is treating him in a way that gives you heart arrhythmias or twists your gut, take him out of there. He will thank you for it later. (Probably there are some therapists who would disagree with me here, but frankly it is a matter of conscience for me. I would feel like my presence was condoning abuse.) Ben has just got to the point where his major issue is competence instead of trust and he never would have gotten there if we hadn't watched this every step of the way. I know what it is like myself to have lupus and mercury poisoning and immune deficiency and look perfectly normal (well almost) so people's expectations of me are more than I can handle. Ben was so cute this afternoon when I drove up onto the interstate ramp and he said, " Whee! " " I didn't get sick! " poor kid, think of all the times he did and nobody could figure out why he was crying in his carseat. *** > > For those of you who may be interested in the medical literature, > look up articles by M. Hadjivassiliou, MD, et. al. in Neurology, > 2006:373-337, and in J. Neuro Neurosurg Psychiatry, 2003, > 74;1221-1230., and Neurology 2002;58:1221-1226. > Those references are for the gluten ataxia and its treatment and > serological associations. The other ideas came from my reading over > the past two years, and our experience with Ben. Any researchers out > there that want to test any of this, feel free...I'm not claiming any > of this as intellectual property...just my ideas. > > Benny's fecal antigliadin IgA was 24 (normal 0-9), and his antitissue > transglutaminase and fecal anti-casein IgA tests were also positive. > He was and is greatly helped by the enzymes, but now after one week > on a strict gluten free diet he is potty trained, and incredibly > improved with respect to vestibular functioning--all of a sudden > willing to go on the carousel, the boat rides, the Tower Ride at > Silver Springs...AND balance himself on an adult toilet. All of this > he refused to do at all before. > Peace, > Kathy E. > Kathleen_E@... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 > ***Love your kid. I think these kids are great and every one is a > hero. I admire them, and I tell Ben so all the time. They have so > much to overcome! One website said they are Always Under Terrible > Internal Stress and made an anagram out of it. > Cudos once again Kathy! Ben is so lucky to have you. 'Loving your kid' and following what comes from the heart is paramount. Believe it or not, we did not know we had 'issues' until the boys were 6 and 8... but they came so far soley on love, respect and communication. Thanks again for the words of wisdom. Robyn PS I read somewhere that kids that have reading problems work six times harder than the 'average' kid to make it through a school day...talk about frustrations! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 >-----Original Message----- >From: >[mailto: ]On Behalf Of Kathleen Eickwort > >4. The child on a normal American diet continues to consume gluten >in wheat, rye, barley and casein in milk, cheese etc. But the enzymes >that should break these down into amino acids are weak or missing >entirely after being destroyed or inactivated by the mercury in the >bile. Kathy, very interesting post! But I see one problem with the above step in your outlined progression. According to some Stanford researchers *nobody* can digest gliadin. Which means we don't have the enzymes to digest it in the first place, whether or not we're gluten-sensitive. IF they are correct, then there would be no gluten-digesting enzymes for the mercury to inactivate. Suze Fisher Web Design and Development http://www.allurecreative.com Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine http://www.westonaprice.org ---------------------------- " The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " -- Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics <http://www.thincs.org> ---------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 Well Suze, in that case it may just be a matter of whether your family is one of the autoimmune ones that produces antibodies against tissue transglutaminase... In a hurry today, will write more later. 40% of the people with gluten ataxia recovered on a gluten-free diet. The anti-tisssue transglutaminase is what attacks the Purkinje cells...see you later. Peace, Kathy E. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: > >[mailto: ]On Behalf Of Kathleen Eickwort > > > > > >4. The child on a normal American diet continues to consume gluten > >in wheat, rye, barley and casein in milk, cheese etc. But the enzymes > >that should break these down into amino acids are weak or missing > >entirely after being destroyed or inactivated by the mercury in the > >bile. > > Kathy, very interesting post! But I see one problem with the above step in > your outlined progression. According to some Stanford researchers *nobody* > can digest gliadin. Which means we don't have the enzymes to digest it in > the first place, whether or not we're gluten-sensitive. IF they are correct, > then there would be no gluten-digesting enzymes for the mercury to > inactivate. > > Suze Fisher > Web Design and Development > http://www.allurecreative.com > Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine > http://www.westonaprice.org > > ---------------------------- > " The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause > heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " -- > Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt > University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. > > The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics > <http://www.thincs.org> > ---------------------------- > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 Well, the mercury could certainly still inactivate the lactase, amylase, sucrase, etc...and if (perhaps) some of the enzymes come from normal gut bacteria and we are dependent on them to break down the gluten...the effect on the immune system could happen first, then the antibiotics for ear infections, etc. could kill the normal gut bacteria...even if it is " just " lactose intolerance that occurs, damage to the gut lining, leaky gut, and abnormal immune reactions are all likely consequences when this mercury-laden bile comes out of the gall bladder. And it could certainly inactivate any enzymes that are there and act as an " adjuvant " for antigen-antibody reactions. Not at all sure those Stanford researchers are correct, either. There are starches in cereals and lactose in milk and if we can't break them down...fermentation and dysbiosis will result. " Leaky gut " is a probably end result of all these processes...BUT when the anti-gliadin and anti-tissue transferases get into the brain, by a molecular mimicry process there is neurological damage. That has been shown by the gluten ataxia studies. And it is reversible, at least in adults, and from the experience of parents, in children too. And this is in addition to whatever neurological damage is just plain mercury neurotoxicity. Peace, Kathy E. > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: > > >[mailto: ]On Behalf Of Kathleen Eickwort > > > > > > > > > >4. The child on a normal American diet continues to consume gluten > > >in wheat, rye, barley and casein in milk, cheese etc. But the enzymes > > >that should break these down into amino acids are weak or missing > > >entirely after being destroyed or inactivated by the mercury in the > > >bile. > > > > Kathy, very interesting post! But I see one problem with the above step in > > your outlined progression. According to some Stanford researchers *nobody* > > can digest gliadin. Which means we don't have the enzymes to digest it in > > the first place, whether or not we're gluten-sensitive. IF they are correct, > > then there would be no gluten-digesting enzymes for the mercury to > > inactivate. > > > > Suze Fisher > > Web Design and Development > > http://www.allurecreative.com > > Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine > > http://www.westonaprice.org > > > > ---------------------------- > > " The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause > > heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " -- > > Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt > > University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. > > > > The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics > > <http://www.thincs.org> > > ---------------------------- > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 " Josie Lecraw " wrote: > > There's lots you can do! > > > >> > > Even IF the issue is your toxic load, there is still a lot you can do (or > perhaps you have already done this stuff - if so, forgive the list!): > > You can go GFCF yourself and/or do it in combination with taking HNI enzymes > yourself > > You can make sure your own gut is in as good a shape as possible > (probiotics/yeast killers etc) > > You can make sure your anti-oxidant and mineral status is in good shape by > supplementing > > You can consider taking omegas > > You can avoid fish > > You can eat organic when ever possible > > You can take out basic toxins (aluminum deodorant, aluminum cookware, etc > etc) > > You can get yourself the most intervention-free prenatal and birth care > possible > > You can avoid early cord clamping > > You can choose not to vaccinate > > > > Good luck with this pregnancy!!!! > > > > Josie Thanks Josie for reminding me that I am doing all the right stuff for my baby. I am doing most of what you listed except the cookware, just can't afford new cookware right now, but I will begin to phase them out and buy safe ones from now on. Organic is too mcuh too, but I buy it when I can. I also avoid artificial color, flavor and sweeteners and make almost everything from scratch so I KNOW what is in it. I am not so sure about the vaccine issue and have seen the stuff on both sides, I am still undecided there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 Not sure, as I said that the Stanford researchers are right about the DDPH enzyme (sp?), don't have time to look it up right now. But anyway, I tried to send another response to this after my brother left and it didn't go through. I'm going to copy it below: Well, the mercury could certainly still inactivate the lactase, amylase, sucrase, etc...and if (perhaps) some of the (gliadin-digesting) enzymes come from normal gut bacteria and we are dependent on them to break down the gluten...the effect on the immune system could happen first, then the antibiotics for ear infections, etc. could kill the normal gut bacteria...even if it is " just " lactose intolerance that occurs, damage to the gut lining, leaky gut, and abnormal immune reactions are all likely consequences when this mercury-laden bile comes out of the gall bladder. And it could certainly inactivate any enzymes that are there and act as an " adjuvant " for antigen-antibody reactions. Not at all sure those Stanford researchers are correct, either. There are starches in cereals and lactose in milk and if we can't break them down...fermentation and dysbiosis will result. " Leaky gut " is a probably end result of all these processes...BUT when the anti-gliadin and anti-tissue transglutaminase enzymes get into the brain, by a molecular mimicry process there is neurological damage. That has been shown by the gluten ataxia studies. And it is reversible, at least in adults, and from the experience of parents, in children too. And this is in addition to whatever neurological damage is just plain mercury neurotoxicity. Peace, Kathy E. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: > >[mailto: ]On Behalf Of Kathleen Eickwort > > > > > >4. The child on a normal American diet continues to consume gluten > >in wheat, rye, barley and casein in milk, cheese etc. But the enzymes > >that should break these down into amino acids are weak or missing > >entirely after being destroyed or inactivated by the mercury in the > >bile. > > Kathy, very interesting post! But I see one problem with the above step in > your outlined progression. According to some Stanford researchers *nobody* > can digest gliadin. Which means we don't have the enzymes to digest it in > the first place, whether or not we're gluten-sensitive. IF they are correct, > then there would be no gluten-digesting enzymes for the mercury to > inactivate. > > Suze Fisher > Web Design and Development > http://www.allurecreative.com > Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine > http://www.westonaprice.org > > ---------------------------- > " The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause > heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " -- > Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt > University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. > > The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics > <http://www.thincs.org> > ---------------------------- > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 Well, every biochemical pathway in the body has enzymes, and most of them have a metal co-factor that helps them work, like magnesium, or molybdenum. But if you throw in a heavy metal like mercury, some genes will still work and others are more vulnerable to that type of damage. By themselves, quoting Dr. Shaw and Dr. Haley this weekend, the terms " under- " and " over- " methylation are a bit meaningless, you need to specify exactly what biochemical pathway you are talking about and what you are methylating too little or not enough...huge complex diagrams, can't type them here. So while some children can't break down gluten, for others maybe the MTHFR gene is different and so more vulnerable to heavy metal poisoning. Or both, or two or three or four other things, because mercury is an extremely potent toxin and has multiple effects on the body's biochemistry, neurology and immunity. (OK, I haven't said this yet to anybody, but I just can't help it, there is something vaguely disturbing about the name of that gene (MTHFR). That is, it looks almost like an abbreviation for an obscenity instead of something to do with the methylation cycle. Must be because we all get so frustrated sometimes about what these problems do to our kids. Well, have a laugh, or else maybe it will help you remember the name of the gene--but if you can't figure out what I mean, I'm not going to explain it to you. Maybe you lived a sheltered life...I didn't, I'm used to working in soup kitchens and visiting prisons, etc.) Peace, Kathy E. > > Kathy, > > I am printing this out. Thank you for sharing this in such an easy to > understand format. If only I could understand how this affects over > and undermethylation! > > Robyn > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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