Re: constipation and impacted bowels

[Guest guest]

KIM,

Benefiber FLAVOR FREE Fiber can be mixed with anything to add Fiber to the

diet.

ALSO, we discovered a GREAT tasting Magnesium Citrate " NATURAL CALM "

www.petergillham.com with a natural raspberry and lemon flavor.

We mix 1 tsp. of Natural Calm with 1-2T hot water, wait fo rthe fizz to

dissipate and then add more warm water to the cup. It tastes good. We use 1 tsp

in the a.m. as a maintenance dose. During impaction we were using 1 tsp 3 times

daily. WORKS GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE bought this product at WHOLE

FOODS.

-------------- Original message ----------------------

From: " Kim Elliott " <kimelliott@...>

> Hello,

>

>

>

> I was hoping someone could help me with a question. I have two children

> with autism and we have tried numerous diets, supplements, enzymes, and all

> natural aides for constipation but so far all have done nothing or side

> effects. I want to do a colon and detox cleanse. I just bought the kind from

> ph-ion because it said that it had a great taste NOT! It was horrible and

> they threw up everywhere when I tried to get them to drink it. It sounded

> wonderful so I am upset because it was all natural too. My daughter has had

> fecal impaction several times and been on Miralax before and I don't want

> this to keep happening. My oldest daughter is anemic so she is supposed to

> start iron supplement but she is already so constipated she can hardly pass

> a stool. They eat all natural and organic food and are on rotation diets

> right now.

>

> Does anyone know of a colon cleanse that is easy to take without tasting

> horrible?

>

> Any help would be great!

>

>

>

> Thanks,

>

> Kim

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> I was hoping someone could help me with a question. I have two children

> with autism and we have tried numerous diets, supplements, enzymes,

and all

> natural aides for constipation but so far all have done nothing or side

> effects.

For my kids, constipation was caused by magnesium deficiency [i had to

give a LOT of magnesium], yeast [GSE eliminated this problem], and

certain supplements. What have you tried? Ideas here

http://www.danasview.net/constip.htm

>>My oldest daughter is anemic so she is supposed to

> start iron supplement but she is already so constipated she can

hardly pass

> a stool.

According to a good book I have, ferrous sulfate is very constipating,

so try to use citrate, glycinate, succinate, or fumarate.

Vitamin C helps with iron absorption, so take it with that.

Calcium, magnesium, zinc, and antibiotics interfere with the

absorption of iron, so don't take those at the same time.

Sorry, I can't answer your question about colon cleanse.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Look at this information on encopresis. This is what my younger son

had, and how we resolved it:

http://www.enzymestuff.com/rtencopresis.htm

We used the Natural Calm mentioned earlier as the magnesium source.

after some time, my son wanted to take tablets instead so we switched

to Source Naturals Magnesium Malate. But as long as you pick a source

of magnesium that is not oxide, you should be fine. Shoot for between

400 to 1000 mg of magnesium a day to keep stools flowing. And drink a

reasonable amount of water. You want to keep giving magnesium until

the stools are consistently loose but not to the point of diarrhea.

Just to keep things moving through the intestines.

I like using magnesium as the stool softener because if there might

be other symptoms of magnesium deficiency the person has that would

be addressed at the same time.

But the trick to getting the chronic constipation to stop is to

follow the bathroom schedule to retrain the colon muscles. the

program says to keep at it a good 6 months even if the problem

appears to stop earlier. My son regained good control of regular

bowel movements into the 4th months, but we kept at it a couple

months longer. He was 7 when we found this program. He had had this

problem since a toddler.

If you have any questions or concerns on this encopresis program, let

me know.

.

[Guest guest]

Hi Kim! We use the magnesium citrate for our son when backup is

severe. It is nasty tasting, but does clean out really good!! Sounds

like it wouldnt be something you could give without them throwing

up! The only thing I can think of is to try aloe vera juice(whole

form). The taste isnt that great either, but not as bad as the mag

citrate and requires a lot less to work. You could probably put it

in some juice or something to hide the taste! Also, some form of

garlic could help!! My son is on puree and doesnt chew so it is easy

to get in him. I use chopped version that comes in jar. I crush it

just befor I put it in his food to activate the active ingredients

in it. He produces a good movement everytime and also works as a

natural enzyme, antibiotic, even has some magnesium in it, etc! So

also maybe try the aloe, this also produces good movements, just not

sure how much as a whole intestinal cleanse, but does get things

moving. It is loaded with lots of nutrients and is an immune booster

also! Your daughter that needs to start iron really needs something

daily to keep her regular! Good luck! Jennie<><

>

> Hello,

>

>

>

> I was hoping someone could help me with a question. I have two

children

> with autism and we have tried numerous diets, supplements,

enzymes, and all

> natural aides for constipation but so far all have done nothing or

side

> effects. I want to do a colon and detox cleanse. I just bought the

kind from

> ph-ion because it said that it had a great taste NOT! It was

horrible and

> they threw up everywhere when I tried to get them to drink it. It

sounded

> wonderful so I am upset because it was all natural too. My

daughter has had

> fecal impaction several times and been on Miralax before and I

don't want

> this to keep happening. My oldest daughter is anemic so she is

supposed to

> start iron supplement but she is already so constipated she can

hardly pass

> a stool. They eat all natural and organic food and are on rotation

diets

> right now.

>

> Does anyone know of a colon cleanse that is easy to take without

tasting

> horrible?

>

> Any help would be great!

>

>

>

> Thanks,

>

> Kim

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

We have tried both Kirkman's Magnesuim and Aloe Vera juice. The

Kirkman's magnesium is in a powder form that can be mixed with liquids -

in our case we use it with lemon tea in the am, as it is stable with

use in hot liquids. For the aloe vera juice, we use 's and it

has no flavor at all!! I was shocked. It can be obtained at the health

food store or online. For us, I have to keep using different things

because one day it works, one day it doesn't. My daughter has a bad

yeast problem that we are also trying to get under control.

[Guest guest]

I just wanted to mention on the aloe juice! We have tried both the

's and whole forms!! We notice a big difference when it comes to

the forms and constipation. 's distilling affects the laxative

affects. The whole form definetly works better when it comes to

constipation. We did see mild improvements with the george's but it

really helped more with reflux and stomach pain. So I recommend(from

our experience with trying both) to use whole form(organic if

possible) for constipation! As far as supplementing, we also find that

not using everything every day, works better. Things seem to work

better with our son if we supplement as needed on some things, example-

aloe vera, garlic, etc. magnesium occaissionally also(still a little

nervouse on the calcium/magnesium ratio), but do still use the mag,

just not every day!! I can say our son is doing so much better this

winter, I almost cant believe it. I credit it to the natural

supplementing. He hasnt even had seizure after seizure(typically

viral/gi induced). I dreaded every winter befor, this year isnt the

same! ! Jenie<><

>

> We have tried both Kirkman's Magnesuim and Aloe Vera juice. The

> Kirkman's magnesium is in a powder form that can be mixed with

liquids -

> in our case we use it with lemon tea in the am, as it is stable with

> use in hot liquids. For the aloe vera juice, we use 's and it

> has no flavor at all!! I was shocked. It can be obtained at the

health

> food store or online. For us, I have to keep using different things

> because one day it works, one day it doesn't. My daughter has a bad

> yeast problem that we are also trying to get under control.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

For those who use whole aloe, what are your dosages?

For the discussion, just wanted to add that we use the whole form of aloe, too.

The brand

we use is Whole Life and we get it at Whole Foods (WF). My sons, who have

ongoing

constipation issues, like the orange flavor and we put it in OJ. We were going

to get the

's Aloe, but couldn't find it at Whole Foods and wanted to start the

aloe, as

directed by our DAN. Didn't want to wait to order online. We were told by a WF

long-time

employee that WF had various aloe juices/concentrates independently tested a

while back,

and Whole Life had a good concentration of aloe. Evidently some aloe brands are

not as

potent. We use 2 TBL two times a day for children weighing 38 and 55 pounds.

For constipation, for the last month we have been using the aloe mentioned

above,

Benefiber, Miralax, and a probiotic powder, Mindlinx...all prescribed by our

DAN. We also

added 5 child enemas at the beginning of the regimen to get things moving at the

" top

and the bottom " as our doctor said!

Anne

> >

> > We have tried both Kirkman's Magnesuim and Aloe Vera juice. The

> > Kirkman's magnesium is in a powder form that can be mixed with

> liquids -

> > in our case we use it with lemon tea in the am, as it is stable with

> > use in hot liquids. For the aloe vera juice, we use 's and it

> > has no flavor at all!! I was shocked. It can be obtained at the

> health

> > food store or online. For us, I have to keep using different things

> > because one day it works, one day it doesn't. My daughter has a bad

> > yeast problem that we are also trying to get under control.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

We use the whole aloe kinda as needed!! The george's is great, especially with

no taste/smell. But I can say that it doesnt seem to have that umph when it

comes to constipation. It diffenitly gives relief with reflux and stomach pain.

But we do find that whole aloe is better and not needed every day. Our natural

doc said to give the george's 1 ounce x 2 a day(he was around 40lbs then, now

45lbs). That was the first time we ever tried aloe and was surprised at the

results. We ran out and used whole form(george's isnt that easy to get for us).

Was very happy to see how much better it worked(the whole form). Now is used as

needed/2-3times a week. The george's is distilled and the ingredients of the

laxative part is takin out. Now we did see some movement results, but needed so

much more. Aloe is so good for the gi and is also an immune booster. Wouldnt be

without it now after seeing what it has done for our son!! Our son has been on

the miralax for a quite a while and want

him desperatly off. He is down to under half the dosage that was originally

script for him(half of the half). He was originally on two full adult doses. I

personally dont think it is safe for children and cant wait tell he is

completely off. Believe it or not, we are seeing really good results when I add

real garlic/I crush it then add to food just befor he eats. He doesnt chew and

so doesnt know he even had it. It really gets the gi moving and is a strong

antibiotic and enzyme. I use both kinda as I feel is needed and works well this

way. take care, Jennie<><

annekathrynmoore <annemoore@...> wrote: Hi,

For those who use whole aloe, what are your dosages?

For the discussion, just wanted to add that we use the whole form of aloe, too.

The brand

we use is Whole Life and we get it at Whole Foods (WF). My sons, who have

ongoing

constipation issues, like the orange flavor and we put it in OJ. We were going

to get the

's Aloe, but couldn't find it at Whole Foods and wanted to start the aloe,

as

directed by our DAN. Didn't want to wait to order online. We were told by a WF

long-time

employee that WF had various aloe juices/concentrates independently tested a

while back,

and Whole Life had a good concentration of aloe. Evidently some aloe brands are

not as

potent. We use 2 TBL two times a day for children weighing 38 and 55 pounds.

For constipation, for the last month we have been using the aloe mentioned

above,

Benefiber, Miralax, and a probiotic powder, Mindlinx...all prescribed by our

DAN. We also

added 5 child enemas at the beginning of the regimen to get things moving at the

" top

and the bottom " as our doctor said!

Anne

> >

> > We have tried both Kirkman's Magnesuim and Aloe Vera juice. The

> > Kirkman's magnesium is in a powder form that can be mixed with

> liquids -

> > in our case we use it with lemon tea in the am, as it is stable with

> > use in hot liquids. For the aloe vera juice, we use 's and it

> > has no flavor at all!! I was shocked. It can be obtained at the

> health

> > food store or online. For us, I have to keep using different things

> > because one day it works, one day it doesn't. My daughter has a bad

> > yeast problem that we are also trying to get under control.

> >

>

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