Re: OT-HELP!DS going under anesthesia tomorrow - any suggestions?

[Guest guest]

Hi Susi,

I thought maybe someone with actual experience would jump in. My ds has only

ever had the laughing gas type stuff at the dentist. We always see some

regression afterwards.

I would expect something and maybe give him some charcoal afterwards to help

clear it out.

gfcfmommy <gfcfmommy@...> wrote:

Hi,

Sorry for the OT post, but I trust your advice more than the medical

community right now. My 5 yr old ds is going under general anesthesia

tomorrow for dental work. He will be under for an hour or more.This

was an emergency,so I havn't had much time to prepare.

Does anyone have any experience with this? What can I expect after the

anesthesia? I'm giving him his Nystatin in the a.m., and that's all.

Right now I am terrified that the anesthesia can cause regression, or

damage to all the work I've done over the past few months.Am I overly

concerened?

Thanks for your help,

Susi

[Guest guest]

I heard from dr.kartzinel that general anesthesia is better than nitrous.

Although it does not make much sence it seems that more parents have regression

with nitrous and not ga

Re: OT-HELP!DS going under anesthesia tomorrow - any

suggestions?

Hi Susi,

I thought maybe someone with actual experience would jump in. My ds has only

ever had the laughing gas type stuff at the dentist. We always see some

regression afterwards.

I would expect something and maybe give him some charcoal afterwards to help

clear it out.

gfcfmommy <gfcfmommy@...> wrote:

Hi,

Sorry for the OT post, but I trust your advice more than the medical

community right now. My 5 yr old ds is going under general anesthesia

tomorrow for dental work. He will be under for an hour or more.This

was an emergency,so I havn't had much time to prepare.

Does anyone have any experience with this? What can I expect after the

anesthesia? I'm giving him his Nystatin in the a.m., and that's all.

Right now I am terrified that the anesthesia can cause regression, or

damage to all the work I've done over the past few months.Am I overly

concerened?

Thanks for your help,

Susi

[Guest guest]

Hi Susi,

General Anesthesia is what is normally used for our kids. Nitrous

oxide is NOT recommended as there are potential complications for

autistic individuals with particular pre-existing circumstances. If

the child has a MTHRFR deficiency, it should absolutely be avoided.

50% of the population carries a MTHFR mutation and nitrous oxyde is

rarely a problem. However, children with autism, delays or altered

homocystine metabolism, should have their methionine levels tested

and determined before administering this anesthetic.

Also, inhaling nitrous oxide depletes B12, and most ASD kids are

already deficient. For children who do not have the enzyme

deficiency mentioned above (MTHFR), if nitrous is necessary,

exposure should be limited.

Tell the Anesthesiologist beforehand about your concerns with

nitrous. The use of general anesthetic should be fine. My grandson

did very well when he required sedation for a deep hearing test. I

really don't remember what they used, but I know that he woke up

immediately after the proceedure was done, and he announced that he

was hungry!

Are you a member of " Chelatingkids2 " (CK2)? If so, a lot of this

information is in the files under " Anesthesia for the Autistic

Child, Dental and an Article on.... " . If you are chelating or

thinking about it, it is a really great group. If you are interested

you can join at " Chelatingkids2-subscribe " .

My best to you and your little boy!

-Trish

>

> Hi,

>

> Sorry for the OT post, but I trust your advice more than the

medical

> community right now. My 5 yr old ds is going under general

anesthesia

> tomorrow for dental work. He will be under for an hour or

more.This

> was an emergency,so I havn't had much time to prepare.

>

> Does anyone have any experience with this? What can I expect after

the

> anesthesia? I'm giving him his Nystatin in the a.m., and that's

all.

> Right now I am terrified that the anesthesia can cause regression,

or

> damage to all the work I've done over the past few months.Am I

overly

> concerened?

>

> Thanks for your help,

> Susi

>

[Guest guest]

Hi I have a 5 year old, she had anesthesia for an MRI and Upper & Low

Scope 1 week apart at the end of November 2006. We have not seen any

regression. She has been doing new things at least every week. The

day of she was off balanced. But the next day she was fine. Hope

this helps.

Sheri

>

> Hi,

>

> Sorry for the OT post, but I trust your advice more than the

medical

> community right now. My 5 yr old ds is going under general

anesthesia

> tomorrow for dental work. He will be under for an hour or more.This

> was an emergency,so I havn't had much time to prepare.

>

> Does anyone have any experience with this? What can I expect after

the

> anesthesia? I'm giving him his Nystatin in the a.m., and that's

all.

> Right now I am terrified that the anesthesia can cause regression,

or

> damage to all the work I've done over the past few months.Am I

overly

> concerened?

>

> Thanks for your help,

> Susi

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry if this gets to you after the fact. I get the digest and

realized when I was reading your post that " tomorrow " probably means

today. My daughter had dental work done in Oct under general and it

was just fine. I, too, was struggling with the decision. She is very

sensory challenged, and has a hard time with dental work. One dentist

managed to get a filling in a back tooth, and much to my dismay, it was

a metal (amalgam) filling! I was beside myself, because I was sitting

right there and didn't catch it (I can't stand the sight of blood and

they did an extraction of a baby tooth as well). Anyhow, the dentist

refused to remove the filling, so I raised a fuss and had it done under

general with another dentist who did a wonderful job. She came out of

the general with no complications at all. I seem to recall that C0Q10

is recommended before and after surgeries, as suggested in

the " Perscription for Nutritional Healing " book by Balch, and I know

mega vitamin C is a terrific antioxident. I hope everything goes well!

Ruthanne

[Guest guest]

Sorry if this is too late...

Ask to speak to the anesthetist before starting the procedure. Stress to

them that your child has a compromised immune system.

Look them straight in the eye and make sure they understand... really. The

first time my son has this done, I told the anesthetist what I did and did

not want to be administered, he looked at me and said ' sure'. He ended up

giving my son - 3 at the time, 3 different narcs completely against my

wishes.

We had a very hard time waking him up and it took forever for his sick

little body to detox those Narcs.

They listen now...

Stay away from the nitrous oxide which is not good for any of our kids

because it depletes B12 in minutes. Check methionine on his testing, if low,

don't go near it.

My son has been through this dental procedure a few times... stay away from

the use of too many narcotics being administered for the pain. Use Motrin

NOT Tylenol if you have to use anything for the pain - Tylenol will deplete

glutathione.

Good luck,

Jen in BC