Urine Accidents on Houston??

March 10, 2006

My son started Houston AFP and ZYme on Monday and has 3 accidents this

week. This is the only new thing.we started GSE last week and didn't

have them. Could it be the enzymes or that I'm offering him so many

drinks since I need to get 6 sets of things down him?

Thanks,

Christy

Re: Question about Houston enzymes

Thanks ~ this is helpful!

Donna

>

> >>> Why would my child need to use the AFP peptizide formula

instead of

> > the peptizyde?

>

> Some people are too sensitive to the 'fruity' enzymes papain,

> bromelain, and actinidin. The AFP is a version of Peptizyde that

does

> not have these enzymes. If you are sensitive to phenols, then you

may

> also need the non-fruity enzymes. The fillers are different in the

two

> products as well. Papain and bromelain are fine well-studied

enzymes,

> but if you can't tolerate them, you can't. There aren't many

enzyme

> products out there that do not contain these fruity enzymes.

Enzymedica

> is a line that does not use these in most of their products (there

are

> two products in the line that do contain these). Other than that,

the

> non-fruity enzyme products are very hard to come by.

>

> If someone cannot tolerate any plant/microbe derived enzymes,

> pancreatic ones are an option.

>

> .

>

March 10, 2006

Christy,

We started enzymes about three weeks ago. We started Actos a week

later. The week we started Actos, my son had two daytime

accidents. We stopped the Actos, and the wetting stopped. I'm not 100%

sure the wetting caused the Actos. I guess it could have been the

enzymes...

If so, he's getting used to the enzymes and we seem to be seeing some

positives from them. Ironically, 's bedwetting (which has

happened every night since we brought him home from India two years

ago) has dropped considerably since we stopped Actos but upped his

enzymes. He's been dry more nights than he's been wet.

Sorry I'm not more help. I'll be interested to read the replies to

your message.

Take care,

mom of Kaley 12-bio, Maya 10-India and 6.5-India (on the

spectrum, RAD, ADHD).

> >

> > >>> Why would my child need to use the AFP peptizide formula

> instead of

> > > the peptizyde?

> >

> > Some people are too sensitive to the 'fruity' enzymes papain,

> > bromelain, and actinidin. The AFP is a version of Peptizyde that

> does

> > not have these enzymes. If you are sensitive to phenols, then you

> may

> > also need the non-fruity enzymes. The fillers are different in the

> two

> > products as well. Papain and bromelain are fine well-studied

> enzymes,

> > but if you can't tolerate them, you can't. There aren't many

> enzyme

> > products out there that do not contain these fruity enzymes.

> Enzymedica

> > is a line that does not use these in most of their products (there

> are

> > two products in the line that do contain these). Other than that,

> the

> > non-fruity enzyme products are very hard to come by.

> >

> > If someone cannot tolerate any plant/microbe derived enzymes,

> > pancreatic ones are an option.

> >

> > .

> >

>

March 10, 2006

In a message dated 11/03/2006 03:15:15 GMT Standard Time,

ccarrasquilla@... writes:

My son started Houston AFP and ZYme on Monday and has 3 accidents this

week. This is the only new thing.we started GSE last week and didn't

have them. Could it be the enzymes or that I'm offering him so many

drinks since I need to get 6 sets of things down him?

>>>I don't think so - what you have is die off going on which could be from

enzymes or GSE or both. Wetting the bed is now my only sign that son has

yeast or die off. Keep going, give lots of fluids to flush him through.

Kids often pee more when starting enzymes - this generally goes away after a

few weeks

Good luck, my son did wonderfully on HNI and stull does

Mandi in Dorset UK

Mum to Sam 47XYY, Autism, Heavy Metal Toxicity, Possible Seizure DIsorder &

Severe Cuteness:)

_Treating Autism_ (http://www.treatingautism.com/)

March 11, 2006

This would be wonderful is this is die off for him. His poops look and

smell very normal and I've been stumped as to why I can't see the black

specs, the yeast smell or white stuff that everyone talks.

Re: Urine Accidents on Houston??

In a message dated 11/03/2006 03:15:15 GMT Standard Time,

ccarrasquilla@... writes:

My son started Houston AFP and ZYme on Monday and has 3 accidents this

week. This is the only new thing.we started GSE last week and didn't

have them. Could it be the enzymes or that I'm offering him so many

drinks since I need to get 6 sets of things down him?

>>>I don't think so - what you have is die off going on which could be

from

enzymes or GSE or both. Wetting the bed is now my only sign that son

has

yeast or die off. Keep going, give lots of fluids to flush him through.

Kids often pee more when starting enzymes - this generally goes away

after a

few weeks

Good luck, my son did wonderfully on HNI and stull does

Mandi in Dorset UK

Mum to Sam 47XYY, Autism, Heavy Metal Toxicity, Possible Seizure

DIsorder &

Severe Cuteness:)

_Treating Autism_ (http://www.treatingautism.com/)

March 11, 2006

>

> My son started Houston AFP and ZYme on Monday and has 3 accidents this

> week. This is the only new thing.we started GSE last week and didn't

> have them. Could it be the enzymes or that I'm offering him so many

> drinks since I need to get 6 sets of things down him?

Yeast die off commonly causes wetting accidents. Maybe the addition

of the enzymes helped with addressing the yeast overgrowth?

Is the ZP the SCD version?

Dana

March 11, 2006

He's getting Zyme Prime powder and AFP Peptizide. He complained 2

nights right after dinner (those were his only doses that day) that he

didn't feel good. His face sort of looked like he was nauseas and I

thought he was going to vomit, then he perked up and started running

through the house playing with his brother and was fine. When we added

the a.m. dose he seemed fine and not nausea, but then had the accidents.

Re: Urine Accidents on Houston??

>

> My son started Houston AFP and ZYme on Monday and has 3 accidents this

> week. This is the only new thing.we started GSE last week and didn't

> have them. Could it be the enzymes or that I'm offering him so many

> drinks since I need to get 6 sets of things down him?

Yeast die off commonly causes wetting accidents. Maybe the addition

of the enzymes helped with addressing the yeast overgrowth?

Is the ZP the SCD version?

Dana

March 12, 2006

> >

> > My son started Houston AFP and ZYme on Monday and has 3 accidents this

> > week. This is the only new thing.we started GSE last week and didn't

> > have them. Could it be the enzymes or that I'm offering him so many

> > drinks since I need to get 6 sets of things down him?

>

> Yeast die off commonly causes wetting accidents. Maybe the addition

> of the enzymes helped with addressing the yeast overgrowth?

>

> Is the ZP the SCD version?

>

> Dana

>

March 14, 2006

Increase in wetting when starting enzyme can happen occassionally.

This was reported since the release of Peptizyde. Intially, HNI said

this was due to enzymes breaking bonds because when a bond is broken

a molecule of water is released. So if you hear this explanation,

that is where it came from. HOWEVER, this is incorrect and Devin H

has since admitted it. Actually, the opposite happens...a molecule of

water is used up (not released) when a food bond is broken. Here is

an animation of this process (termed hydrolysis). Click on the button

Hydrolysis to see water used to break bonds.

http://science.nhmccd.edu/biol/dehydrat/dehydrat.html

So what does cause the extra wetting in some people? At the moment,

don't know. Other enzyme manufacturers had some speculation on this,

but at the moment, nothing conclusing was offered.

The wetting might be associated with an increase in pathogen control

in some cases too (virus, yeast, bacteria).

What we do know from experience is that it tends to be part of the

adjustment period due to changes in the body, and it does eventually

go away. Most people see it go away within a week or two, although

there have been a couple reports of it lasting several weeks.

Give it at least three weeks to see if it levels out as part of the

adjustment. My son wet at night for a number of years before enzymes

so I know how aggravating it can be. In our case, the enzymes made

the wetting stop.

.

March 14, 2006

What a great explanation. I've been sending these to his teacher and

she is 'on board' to help give him reminders. So far he has stayed dry

since Sat, but we have to remind him. Thanks again for all the responses

on this!