Re: Very OT but have ??

March 10, 2006

This is not OT at all. We are here to help our own and other's kids.

You are absolutely right about nutrition helping your son. All dysprexic

children I have ever known (I have known a couple) have been sweethearts and

it is hard on them to be clumsy publicly. The problem with school system is

that all jocks are stars but those who can write well and have interest in

learning and an active and imaginative brain go unnoticed.

In my own personal experience and my son's as well. A good multi vitamin, in

combination with methyl B 12 (methylcobalomin and not Cyancobalomin) has done

great for our anxiety, and socialization.

Also activities that would boost your child's ego and put him in contact with

other like-minded kids like game groups, reading or science club can do

wonders. I think building self-confidence and a feelings that one's interest

and abilities matter is very important. If your child is into art, look into

art classes for kids in a local museum. Most of them have it and it give him

an opportunity to meet peers. Just in case the cost an issue, many of such

courses have discount as well.

The parks and recreation programs also have summer art classes. Also Praising

your child's accomplishments regularly and letting him know that you are proud

of his intelligence will emphasis his self worth and effects how he interacts

with other kids.

I really think Optimum nutrients, multi vitamins and minerals should do great

for him.

Best,

Haleh

--- ritas2boys <gingras440@...> wrote:

> I don't post often but do read here all the time....mostly for my 8

> yr old pdd son....this is a problem concerning his brother, who is

> 10 yrs old, definitley has some sensory type issues and probably

> has dypraxia (was always told he is just clumsy). Anyway,

> yesterday at school he wrote a note to himself about cursing all the

> boys in his class, etc. Someone found it and the teacher called me

> because my son would not admit to it. It had his name at the top

> and it was defnitely his messy handwriting. After talking to him he

> admitted it to his teacher and said he was very angry at the boys in

> his class

> because of something that happened in gym. The teacher was pleased

> that he owned up to it and said that would be the end of it because

> there was no real threat in the letter. She did discuss with my son

> that if ever anyone is bullying him he needs to let her know, he

> said

> noone is....but I think he just was made to feel embarrassed. What

> do you guys think about all this? I am very nervous about my sons

> mental health...he shows some signs of anxiety, finds it hard to

> make friends

> and the one good friend he did have from the neighborhood, who he

> used to spend all his time with, sleepovers etc now has a new

> friend and kinda avoids him:( I feel so so bad for him. We live in

> a neighborhood where it is not that safe for him to just go out by

> himself to play. (real inner city) no yard etc. I often wonder if

> the diet or enzymes would help him with his social akwardness and

> clumsiness?? is this just wishful thinking? He is in reg school,

> is brillient, gets all A's etc....any advice appreciated...Rita

>

March 10, 2006

Just my opinion here! But I think a lot of kids have metal/toxin/digestive

issues. All kids vaccinated in the age of mercury were exposed to the same

things. Not all became autistic, many developed other issues in varying

degrees. Some go on the spectrum and others develop severe allergies, asthma,

diabetes and so on... And autism is also a wide spectrum disorder that ranges

from very mild kids who have ADD and sensory issues to the very severe autism.

I also have a son who is NT but concerns me sometimes. He wasn't vaccinated

but was a Rhogam baby so got two good doses plus whatever he managed to pick up

from me. What my plans are is to get a hair test and do a few rounds of

chelation with them. I want to see what he may be deficient in and what

supplements he may need. Basically treating it like I would in a

thought-to-be-autistic kid. He just won't likely need as much as my ASD son.

It certainly wouldn't hurt to try some of these types of things with your NT

son.

That is awesome that he is such a great student! Are there different

activities he can become involved in? Boy Scouts, after school clubs, church

groups? All of these type things keep the same kids together giving him that

security/continuity and also has constant adult supervision. I would definitely

pay attention to what you described, the anxiety and social troubles. That

would worry me as well. He needs a good dose of self esteem!

Wishing your two boys well!

ritas2boys <gingras440@...> wrote:

I don't post often but do read here all the time....mostly for my 8

yr old pdd son....this is a problem concerning his brother, who is

10 yrs old, definitley has some sensory type issues and probably

has dypraxia (was always told he is just clumsy). Anyway,

yesterday at school he wrote a note to himself about cursing all the

boys in his class, etc. Someone found it and the teacher called me

because my son would not admit to it. It had his name at the top

and it was defnitely his messy handwriting. After talking to him he

admitted it to his teacher and said he was very angry at the boys in

his class

because of something that happened in gym. The teacher was pleased

that he owned up to it and said that would be the end of it because

there was no real threat in the letter. She did discuss with my son

that if ever anyone is bullying him he needs to let her know, he

said

noone is....but I think he just was made to feel embarrassed. What

do you guys think about all this? I am very nervous about my sons

mental health...he shows some signs of anxiety, finds it hard to

make friends

and the one good friend he did have from the neighborhood, who he

used to spend all his time with, sleepovers etc now has a new

friend and kinda avoids him:( I feel so so bad for him. We live in

a neighborhood where it is not that safe for him to just go out by

himself to play. (real inner city) no yard etc. I often wonder if

the diet or enzymes would help him with his social akwardness and

clumsiness?? is this just wishful thinking? He is in reg school,

is brillient, gets all A's etc....any advice appreciated...Rita

March 10, 2006

Thanks to all who replied to my post. I think you have a point with

getting him involved with activities that matter to him. I think

sometimes I want him to just try his best and join in with the other

kids. for instance, some of the kids from his school go to the gym

after school and play basketball and other sports. I would love him

to go and make an effort but he just refuses. Maybe I am hurting his

self esteem by expecting him to play sports when he says he has no

interest...actually, I don't think that he has no interest but that

he is a perfectionist...big time...and he knows he is not good at

sports, therefore doesn't even want to try.

Anyway, I do think that vitamins and good diet would help also.

I have looked into chelation and did do a hair test on both my boys.

They both showed up high in the red for lead. I wanted to do

chelation but am nervous and don't have alot of money for Dan Dr...

which I think I would prefer to doing on my own. Can anyone tell me

how much a Dan Dr would cost?

thanks again.....rita

March 10, 2006

Hi and Thanks you for your support:)

You mentioned B-12, and a certain kind...can you tell me about it?

Is it a vitamin he can take orally? thanks.......rita

March 10, 2006

Look into Andy Cutler's protocol for chelation and join mercury autism group.

You don't need a DAN to do safe chelation.

Best,

haleh

--- ritas2boys <gingras440@...> wrote:

> Thanks to all who replied to my post. I think you have a point with

> getting him involved with activities that matter to him. I think

> sometimes I want him to just try his best and join in with the other

> kids. for instance, some of the kids from his school go to the gym

> after school and play basketball and other sports. I would love him

> to go and make an effort but he just refuses. Maybe I am hurting his

> self esteem by expecting him to play sports when he says he has no

> interest...actually, I don't think that he has no interest but that

> he is a perfectionist...big time...and he knows he is not good at

> sports, therefore doesn't even want to try.

>

> Anyway, I do think that vitamins and good diet would help also.

> I have looked into chelation and did do a hair test on both my boys.

> They both showed up high in the red for lead. I wanted to do

> chelation but am nervous and don't have alot of money for Dan Dr...

> which I think I would prefer to doing on my own. Can anyone tell me

> how much a Dan Dr would cost?

>

> thanks again.....rita

>

March 10, 2006

You can buy Methyl B 12 in oral form. It is the type that is ready for the

brain to use and need no conversion.

You can buy it at great price here:

http://iherb.com

Just write Methyl B 12 in their search. I use Jarrow's formula for my family

with great result.

--- ritas2boys <gingras440@...> wrote:

> Hi and Thanks you for your support:)

> You mentioned B-12, and a certain kind...can you tell me about it?

> Is it a vitamin he can take orally? thanks.......rita

>

March 10, 2006

Hi Rita,

It sounds a lot like my ex-husband. The 2 things I'd recommend

based on what his parents could have done differently, besides of

course biomedical interventions (especially nutritional related

ones; my kids father is so obviously full of yeast which can cause a

lot worse mood swings than actual emotions, and appears to be very

allergic to wheat.):

1. If he is bright then he knows he's different but without an

alternative explanation, he'll assume it's a character or

personality defect rather than a biological, neurologically based

(what the NIMH calls " No Fault " ) disorder. I would be honest with

him if you suspect he's got a mild form of aspergers, sensory

integration or something along those lines. Or as my almost-NT

daughter calls it, " a little bit of autism. " Knowing that is a gift

really. He can then go easy on himself about whether it's his fault

that he doesn't fit in, and learn to manage himself as a person with

those challenges rather than spend adolescence criticizing himself

for not being like the other kids. (Informing any adults who might

be inclined to give him a hard time for not being one of the " cool "

kids, as he gets older, could help a lot as well.)

2. When you suggest activities or groups for him to join, be

realistic. If he doesn't do well with certain types of boys or with

a large group, find a similar activity with a smaller group or boys

more like him. My ex-husband was in a small exclusive school and

his only classmates were the very stereotypical " jocks " who all went

on to become lawyers and financial analysts. He was a bright,

creative, sensitive boy who defines " thinking outside the box. " His

parents thought he'd do well in a small class size, but the makeup

of his classmates led to a lot of exclusion and teasing, including

by the teachers.

It's my experience that with a higher functioning child, really

controlling the environment so it's set up for success as much as

possible, and many ounces of prevention such as making sure EVERY

teacher, potential recreational activity leader, etc. is aware and

prepared to deal with the differences, are valuable interventions

that save a lot of pain and misunderstanding. When I haven't done

that, people expect my daughter to function like everyone else and

when she doesn't, they make her feel awful. (She tends to feel worse

than the average kid when she's corrected or criticized anyway.)

I don't think it's OT at all by the way. My ex husband would have

been able to do a lot more in life, relationship and career wise, if

someone had bothered to tell him he was on the spectrum and been

kind about his limitations sometime before he was in his 30's.

Amy

March 10, 2006

Actually, hate to say this, but given the DAN! protocol of using huge

amounts of chelators and giving them with no regard to their half-life, your

odds are actually BETTER for a safe protocol if you don't use a dan!

Spend lots of time researching and perusing the boards and you will see lots

of kids damaged by dan! drs. I have read some things that make me physically

ill. Not saying all, but you will find a lot. Makes me sad to say this.