(chinese anti-inflammatory herbs)

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Dear Friends,

can you please share with me what chinese doctor you guy see? where and phone

# is all possible. thanks so much.

Eva

Cochran <Ladyshrink111@...> wrote:

Hi Anita,

Thanks, looks promising, but I can't for the life of me get the ingredients to

show up. Can you help?

[ ] Advanced Inflammation Control by VRP (chinese

anti-inflammatory herbs)

Listmates,

A listmate from another group started this thread on a new product

from VRP. I asked permission to forward it to a-m because I am

hoping some people here might have some thoughts on/experience with

this product.

This is the link to the product: http://vrp.com/det/1625.asp?

c=1150163762437 & k=/vrpsearch.asp & m=/includes/vrp.css & p=no & s=0

Below is the thread (edited by me so it makes more sense. My

comments are in capitals, the original poster's comments are normal):

We started [inflamation Control by VRP] a couple of weeks ago and

the early results seem VERY promising. I know it is still early days

and hate to keep my hopes up

but...

WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO TELL US WHAT YOU'RE SEEING? NOT TOO LONG AGO

THERE WAS AN ARTICLE ABOUT ELIMINATING ANAPHYLACTIC SHOCK IN PEANUT-

ALLERGIC MICE WHEN THEY WERE GIVEN A CERTAIN BLEND OF CHINESE

HERBS. THIS PROTECTION APPARENTLY LASTED 6 MONTHS. I REMEMBER

THINKING WOW.

Anita, unfortunately nothing that clear cut, just general things ie

better/more cognition, awareness, language, more social, responsive,

taking directions... we started LDN in March and have been seeing

improvements in all those areas, but when we started this new thing

as

if all those gains somehow accelerated, same things as before but

five-fold .. as I said early days and could be a coincidence, will

keep

you posted...

The most odd thing was that we saw something very similar to what

people

on Valrex/OLE report: after a few days we saw runny nose, then cough

and

fever, then a rash appeared (small ezcema like patches on shoulders,

neck and then the whole torso - fever got really high on day two but

then disappeared completely after one ibuprofen dose). These herbs

have

many many properties (will email you abstracts) but nothing was ever

reported in the antiviral sense. Apart from this anecdotal bit,

where it

seems one of the components might be interfering with viral

inflammatory

effects: http://www.uveitis.org/medical/lab/tetrandr.html

Someone mentioned might be histamine-related...

IF I'M READING THIS CORRECTLY, IT WOULD SEEM TO SAY THAT THIS HERB

WORKS ON REDUCIING INFLAMMATION CAUSED BY HERPES VIRUS, AND IT DOES

PARTICULARLY WELL SOME TIME AFTER INFECTION AS OPPOSED TO EARLY IN

THE INFECTION. THIS WOULD SEEM EXTREMELY HELPFUL FOR OUR CHILDREN

IF IT WERE THE CASE.

Yes, that was my understanding as well, that this is happening in

retina/cornea at least following herpes infection.... could not

find if anyone has looked in something similar happening in neurons

though.

DO PEOPLE ON LDN EVER SEE ANYTHING LIKE THIS [the child's seeming

viral response] FROM THE IMMUNE SYSTEM SHIFTING/IMPROVING?

Many see more infections, colds etc.... we saw two high fevers

followed by a regression about a month into LDN. both times we tried

introducing Manuka honey. The regression with stop after fever came

down. No additional gains from it. Since then we could not go up to

the full dose LDN. Also, my feeling is that lots of benefits we are

seeing (and I stress we, as is probably a different story with other

kids) from LDN is more to do with regulating membrane conductance

and cell signalling than from its effects on the immune system.

I also have a feeling my son's immune system is just overactive (he

used to be a 'never sick hyperimmune kid'), there is too much going

on and he regresses while febrile. I know lots of ASD kids are

exactly the opposite, they do well while having a fever/cold.....

maybe this could be an indication as to which kids are likely to do

well on antiinflammatories, and which kids could do well on immune-

boosters, things that raise cytokine levels (like honey etc.).

ARE YOU USING OTHER ANTIVIRALS RIGHT NOW?

No other antivirals. I am in two minds now, as thinking upping his

immune system might make it even more active, bring about more

inflammation... would so like to talk about an expert about this, of

course no way of finding or paying for one.

This product was only launched in January or so. Read about it in

VRP newsletter, and as it mentioned calcium channel blocking

properties I was all ears and kept on reading and digging....

(end of thread).

Given how many of our kids suffer from inflammation I find this

product very interesting. Would love to hear comments.

Thanks,

Anita