Re: Son's Metal Tests not counting rules...What NOW?

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> I just got my son's metal test...I will list at bottom, if anyone can

> help me. He doesn't make the counting rules...but DAN! feels

> confident that he is mercury toxic.

My son's hair test didn't meet the counting rules either, but it was

like your son's with antimony, aluminum, and arsenic in the yellow. He

responded very positively to the first round of ALA. Over two years

later and urine tests show he's still dumping metals.

The best way to *know whether chelation will help is to do a short

trial of 5-10 rounds and see how it goes.

Nell

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Have you identified and reduced/removed sources of exposure to aluminum,

antimony, arsenic, lead? FWIW, DMSA chelates both mercury (from the body) and

lead. ALA chelates mercury (fom body and brain) and arsenic. IMO any amount of

lead or arsenic in the human body is too much.

S S

<p>I just got my son's metal test...I will list at bottom, if anyone

can<br>

help me. He doesn't make the counting rules...but DAN! feels<br>

confident that he is mercury toxic. He has wrote a script for TD-DMPS<br>

but we haven't given it yet....Pharmacist said he needed to take<br>

Minerals for Life & Liquid Lithium first for a couple of weeks,then<br>

we will start.<br>

PLEASE NOTE- I DO NOT want to offend anyone or get anyone upset with<br>

me. I am just trying to learn what I need to do to help my son!!!<br>

But I was told by several mother's that their kids didn't make the<br>

counting rules either but by 3rd urine test one was dumping 50 of<br>

mercury, & that I should go ahead & chelate....(<wbr>which I need to<br>

anyway for lead, arsenic, antimony & alumiunum, which is my <br>

understanding?<wbr>???) The other Mother's<br>

had about the same story. I dont want to anger anyone, just trying to <br>

learn & looking at all the options.<br>

<br>

Here are his results...<br>

These tests were ran at DDI.<br>

<br>

Aluminum [17] -8.0 mid yellow<br>

Antimony [.11] -.066 mid yellow<br>

Arsenic [.14] -.080 mid yellow<br>

Beryllium [-0.01] -.020 UNDETECTED<br>

Bismuth [0.078] -0.13 mid green<br>

Cadmium [0.090] -0.15 mid green<br>

Lead [1.1] -1.0 yellow/line<br>

Mercury [0.03] -0.40 UNDECTED<br>

Platinum [-0.003] -0.005 UNDECTED<br>

Thallium [-0.001] -0.010 UNDECTED<br>

Thorium [0.001] -0.005 UNDECTED<br>

Uranium [0.005] -0.060 barely green<br>

Nickel [0.13] -0.40 green<br>

Silver [0.05] -0.20 green<br>

Tin [0.24] -0.30 full green<br>

Titanium [0.51 -1.0 mid green<br>

<br>

Elements:<br>

Calcium 130 [125-370] Under-Full green<br>

Magnesium 24 [12-30] Over-Mid green<br>

Sodium 63 [12-90] Over-Mid green<br>

Potassium 58 [12-40] Over-Yellow<br>

Copper 11 [8.0-16] dot on white<br>

Zinc 140 [100-190] white/green<br>

Manganese .72 [.20-.55] Over-Mid Yellow<br>

Chromium .61 [.26-.50] Over-Mid Yellow<br>

Vanadium 0.56 [0.30-.10] white<br>

Molybdenum 0.066 [.050-.13] Under-green<br>

Boron 2.9 [0.60-4.0] Over Mid-green<br>

Iodine .48 [.25-1.3] Under-barely green<br>

Lithium .004 [.007-.023] Under-red (to the black line)<br>

Phosphorus 147 [160-250] Under-mid yellow<br>

Selenium .95 [.95-1.7 under-green-<wbr>yellow line<br>

Strontium .17 [.16-1] under-green-<wbr>yellow line<br>

Sulfur 46000 [45500-53000] under-green<br>

Barium .23 [.16-.80] under-mid green<br>

Cobalt .007 [.013-.035] Under-red<br>

Iron 16 [8-19] Over-Mid green<br>

Germanium .032 [.045-.065] Under-Mid yellow<br>

Rubidium .071 [.016-.18] Over-barely green<br>

Ziconium 0.39 [0.40-1.0] white<br>

<br>

Ratios:<br>

Ca/Mg 5.42 [4-30]<br>

Ca/P 0.884 [0.8-8]<br>

Na/K 1.09 [.5-10]<br>

Zn/Cu 12.7 [4-20]<br>

Zn/Cd +999 [+800]<br>

(Not sure what any of the ratio's mean???)<br>

<br>

The Mercury thing is really strange to me because I have 2 silver <br>

fillings, I nursed for 7 months & while I was in the hospital <br>

birthing my twins they gave me a rubella shot. He had a flu shot. He <br>

had all of his shots until the 4yo...I wouldn't get these...so I know <br>

he has came in contact with it..he should have SOME showing..but NONE.<br>

I would love to know what everyone thinks about what would be a good<br>

way for us to go with my son now....<br>

He has B-12 shots to give 2x/week.<br>

3 Yeast supps also..<br>

Fixing to start Omega 3,6...<br>

gf/cf/sf diet<br>

Minerals of Life & Lithium liquid (just started)<br>

Will be starting TD-DMPS next week per DAN!<br>

Thank you!<br>

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There is no absolute way to determine metal toxicity.

Suggest you do a porphrins test. The test is prone to false negatives. To

mitigate this, use a preservative in the urine sample (sodium carbonate). Feel

free to email me with more questions on this.

mltallent <mltallent@...> wrote:

I just got my son's metal test...I will list at bottom, if anyone can

help me. He doesn't make the counting rules...but DAN! feels

confident that he is mercury toxic. He has wrote a script for TD-DMPS

but we haven't given it yet....Pharmacist said he needed to take

Minerals for Life & Liquid Lithium first for a couple of weeks,then

we will start.

PLEASE NOTE- I DO NOT want to offend anyone or get anyone upset with

me. I am just trying to learn what I need to do to help my son!!!

But I was told by several mother's that their kids didn't make the

counting rules either but by 3rd urine test one was dumping 50 of

mercury, & that I should go ahead & chelate....(which I need to

anyway for lead, arsenic, antimony & alumiunum, which is my

understanding????) The other Mother's

had about the same story. I dont want to anger anyone, just trying to

learn & looking at all the options.

Here are his results...

These tests were ran at DDI.

Aluminum [17] -8.0 mid yellow

Antimony [.11] -.066 mid yellow

Arsenic [.14] -.080 mid yellow

Beryllium [-0.01] -.020 UNDETECTED

Bismuth [0.078] -0.13 mid green

Cadmium [0.090] -0.15 mid green

Lead [1.1] -1.0 yellow/line

Mercury [0.03] -0.40 UNDECTED

Platinum [-0.003] -0.005 UNDECTED

Thallium [-0.001] -0.010 UNDECTED

Thorium [0.001] -0.005 UNDECTED

Uranium [0.005] -0.060 barely green

Nickel [0.13] -0.40 green

Silver [0.05] -0.20 green

Tin [0.24] -0.30 full green

Titanium [0.51 -1.0 mid green

Elements:

Calcium 130 [125-370] Under-Full green

Magnesium 24 [12-30] Over-Mid green

Sodium 63 [12-90] Over-Mid green

Potassium 58 [12-40] Over-Yellow

Copper 11 [8.0-16] dot on white

Zinc 140 [100-190] white/green

Manganese .72 [.20-.55] Over-Mid Yellow

Chromium .61 [.26-.50] Over-Mid Yellow

Vanadium 0.56 [0.30-.10] white

Molybdenum 0.066 [.050-.13] Under-green

Boron 2.9 [0.60-4.0] Over Mid-green

Iodine .48 [.25-1.3] Under-barely green

Lithium .004 [.007-.023] Under-red (to the black line)

Phosphorus 147 [160-250] Under-mid yellow

Selenium .95 [.95-1.7 under-green-yellow line

Strontium .17 [.16-1] under-green-yellow line

Sulfur 46000 [45500-53000] under-green

Barium .23 [.16-.80] under-mid green

Cobalt .007 [.013-.035] Under-red

Iron 16 [8-19] Over-Mid green

Germanium .032 [.045-.065] Under-Mid yellow

Rubidium .071 [.016-.18] Over-barely green

Ziconium 0.39 [0.40-1.0] white

Ratios:

Ca/Mg 5.42 [4-30]

Ca/P 0.884 [0.8-8]

Na/K 1.09 [.5-10]

Zn/Cu 12.7 [4-20]

Zn/Cd +999 [+800]

(Not sure what any of the ratio's mean???)

The Mercury thing is really strange to me because I have 2 silver

fillings, I nursed for 7 months & while I was in the hospital

birthing my twins they gave me a rubella shot. He had a flu shot. He

had all of his shots until the 4yo...I wouldn't get these...so I know

he has came in contact with it..he should have SOME showing..but NONE.

I would love to know what everyone thinks about what would be a good

way for us to go with my son now....

He has B-12 shots to give 2x/week.

3 Yeast supps also..

Fixing to start Omega 3,6...

gf/cf/sf diet

Minerals of Life & Lithium liquid (just started)

Will be starting TD-DMPS next week per DAN!

Thank you!

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> I just got my son's metal test...I will list at bottom, if anyone

can

> help me. He doesn't make the counting rules...but DAN! feels

> confident that he is mercury toxic.

Due to the significant chance that the test is falsely negative, a trial of

chelation is

appropriate as long as the child has no amalgam dental fillings.

Five cycles (weekends) is enough to be sure if he is responding or not.

> He has wrote a script for TD-DMPS

> but we haven't given it yet....Pharmacist said he needed to take

> Minerals for Life & Liquid Lithium first for a couple of weeks,then

> we will start.

> PLEASE NOTE- I DO NOT want to offend anyone or get anyone upset with

> me. I am just trying to learn what I need to do to help my son!!!

The most important thing is to chelate properly even if the pharmacist and

doctor don't

know how to do that.

Properly: apply the DMPS every 8 hours or more often for at least 3 days in a

row.

Improperly: every other day, once a day, once a week, etc.

> But I was told by several mother's that their kids didn't make the

> counting rules either but by 3rd urine test one was dumping 50 of

> mercury, & that I should go ahead & chelate....(which I need to

> anyway for lead, arsenic, antimony & alumiunum, which is my

> understanding????) The other Mother's

> had about the same story. I dont want to anger anyone, just trying to

> learn & looking at all the options.

>

> Here are his results...

> These tests were ran at DDI.

>

> Aluminum [17] -8.0 mid yellow

> Antimony [.11] -.066 mid yellow

> Arsenic [.14] -.080 mid yellow

> Beryllium [-0.01] -.020 UNDETECTED

> Bismuth [0.078] -0.13 mid green

> Cadmium [0.090] -0.15 mid green

> Lead [1.1] -1.0 yellow/line

> Mercury [0.03] -0.40 UNDECTED

> Platinum [-0.003] -0.005 UNDECTED

> Thallium [-0.001] -0.010 UNDECTED

> Thorium [0.001] -0.005 UNDECTED

> Uranium [0.005] -0.060 barely green

> Nickel [0.13] -0.40 green

> Silver [0.05] -0.20 green

> Tin [0.24] -0.30 full green

> Titanium [0.51 -1.0 mid green

>

> Elements:

> Calcium 130 [125-370] Under-Full green

> Magnesium 24 [12-30] Over-Mid green

> Sodium 63 [12-90] Over-Mid green

> Potassium 58 [12-40] Over-Yellow

> Copper 11 [8.0-16] dot on white

> Zinc 140 [100-190] white/green

> Manganese .72 [.20-.55] Over-Mid Yellow

> Chromium .61 [.26-.50] Over-Mid Yellow

> Vanadium 0.56 [0.30-.10] white

> Molybdenum 0.066 [.050-.13] Under-green

> Boron 2.9 [0.60-4.0] Over Mid-green

> Iodine .48 [.25-1.3] Under-barely green

> Lithium .004 [.007-.023] Under-red (to the black line)

> Phosphorus 147 [160-250] Under-mid yellow

> Selenium .95 [.95-1.7 under-green-yellow line

> Strontium .17 [.16-1] under-green-yellow line

> Sulfur 46000 [45500-53000] under-green

> Barium .23 [.16-.80] under-mid green

> Cobalt .007 [.013-.035] Under-red

> Iron 16 [8-19] Over-Mid green

> Germanium .032 [.045-.065] Under-Mid yellow

> Rubidium .071 [.016-.18] Over-barely green

> Ziconium 0.39 [0.40-1.0] white

>

> Ratios:

> Ca/Mg 5.42 [4-30]

> Ca/P 0.884 [0.8-8]

> Na/K 1.09 [.5-10]

> Zn/Cu 12.7 [4-20]

> Zn/Cd +999 [+800]

> (Not sure what any of the ratio's mean???)

The meaning of the ratios is discussed in my book

Hair Test Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities

www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html

They illuminate things like whether he needs digestive enzymes or regulates

blood sugar

well.

>

> The Mercury thing is really strange to me because I have 2 silver

> fillings, I nursed for 7 months & while I was in the hospital

> birthing my twins they gave me a rubella shot. He had a flu shot. He

> had all of his shots until the 4yo...I wouldn't get these...so I know

> he has came in contact with it..he should have SOME showing..but NONE.

This is a typical finding in kids who have a mercury problem - their body holds

on to it,

their hair levels are unusually LOW.

A great reason to try chelation and see if it helps.

If it doesn't, it just takes a few weeks to know that.

> I would love to know what everyone thinks about what would be a good

> way for us to go with my son now....

> He has B-12 shots to give 2x/week.

> 3 Yeast supps also..

> Fixing to start Omega 3,6...

> gf/cf/sf diet

> Minerals of Life & Lithium liquid (just started)

> Will be starting TD-DMPS next week per DAN!

> Thank you!

>

>

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