Re: Vit A rash/Dana/Anyone?

[Guest guest]

Is there a " Vit A For Dummies " ?...

So, from food, it comes in as carotene. The body has to convert it

into Vit A?

What causes the rash? Vit A toxicity? It seems then that it gets

converted, no?

What causes the orange skin? Carotenes that do not get converted?

How can he have orange skin and a Vit A toxicity rash?

I apologize for asking this of you guys...

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> >>The rash is way less inflamed, but my little guy is now orange.

> > He gets no Vit A other than what is in his diet.

>

>

> My son did not tolerate any foods that were orange or green. His

body

> could not convert carotenes into vitamin A. It took ALA chelation,

> selenium, zinc, vitamin C, and a few other things. A book I have

also

> lists thyroid hormone as required to convert carotenes.

>

>

> > Kids that don't process Vit A can't do a Vit A protocol, right?

Any

> > way to change that?

>

>

> I did high dose vitamin A protocol with my son, before his body

> converted carotenes. It was " straight vitamin A " , not requiring

> conversion.

>

> http://www.danasview.net/vitamina.htm

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Is there a " Vit A For Dummies " ?...

Not that I know of. Would be nice tho, wouldn't it?

> So, from food, it comes in as carotene. The body has to convert it

> into Vit A?

Yes, the body has to convert carotene into vitamin A.

> What causes the rash? Vit A toxicity? It seems then that it gets

> converted, no?

As a general rule, the body only converts [if it converts at all] the

amount of vitamin A that it needs. So it should not convert too much

and cause a rash.

Rashes can be a lot of things, not just vitamin A toxicity. What did

your child's rash look like?

> What causes the orange skin? Carotenes that do not get converted?

Unconverted carotenes commonly cause yellow or orange skin. So does

liver dysfunction [jaundice].

> How can he have orange skin and a Vit A toxicity rash?

If you give straight vitamin A [like CLO or palmitate or something

like that] and he is already fully loaded with vitamin A, the excess

can cause toxicity rash. If you are giving carotenes [or foods

containing carotene] and his body is not converting them, that can

cause orange skin. So, it is possible to have both at the same time,

if you are giving both carotenes and straight vitamin A.

If you are not giving vitamin A except from his diet, the only way he

would have toxicity rash that I know of, is if you are giving a lot of

liver.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Thank you, Dana for the 101. Just to confirm, it was review . My,

how we forget.

The rash is sandpaper-ish. Raised. It gets angry red when the gut

is bad. And it seems to me he is having a yeast flare now though,

and since stopping Vit D and B6, the rash is calm. It is not going

away. It is still from knuckles to shoulders and all over his knees,

in patches.

I think his liver is functioning well. The whites of his eyes are

white. He is orange, though. And he started turning orange just

days after I stopped D.

He gets no straight A and he gets no liver.

Ugh.

Thanks again Dana.

PAula

mom to

> >

> > Is there a " Vit A For Dummies " ?...

>

>

> Not that I know of. Would be nice tho, wouldn't it?

>

>

> > So, from food, it comes in as carotene. The body has to convert

it

> > into Vit A?

>

>

> Yes, the body has to convert carotene into vitamin A.

>

>

> > What causes the rash? Vit A toxicity? It seems then that it

gets

> > converted, no?

>

>

> As a general rule, the body only converts [if it converts at all]

the

> amount of vitamin A that it needs. So it should not convert too

much

> and cause a rash.

>

> Rashes can be a lot of things, not just vitamin A toxicity. What

did

> your child's rash look like?

>

>

> > What causes the orange skin? Carotenes that do not get

converted?

>

>

> Unconverted carotenes commonly cause yellow or orange skin. So does

> liver dysfunction [jaundice].

>

>

> > How can he have orange skin and a Vit A toxicity rash?

>

>

> If you give straight vitamin A [like CLO or palmitate or something

> like that] and he is already fully loaded with vitamin A, the excess

> can cause toxicity rash. If you are giving carotenes [or foods

> containing carotene] and his body is not converting them, that can

> cause orange skin. So, it is possible to have both at the same

time,

> if you are giving both carotenes and straight vitamin A.

>

> If you are not giving vitamin A except from his diet, the only way

he

> would have toxicity rash that I know of, is if you are giving a lot

of

> liver.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

> The rash is sandpaper-ish. Raised. It gets angry red when the gut

> is bad. And it seems to me he is having a yeast flare now though,

> and since stopping Vit D and B6, the rash is calm.

I have read ONE story of someone who gave her child " high dose vitamin

A " by giving a TON of beta carotene, and the child did improve. Maybe

your child's body " over-converts " and does not know when to stop?

Vitamin D helps in the absorption of vitamin A, so if you removed D, A

would not be as well-absorbed, which might be the cause of the orange

skin. Seems possible anyway.

> I think his liver is functioning well. The whites of his eyes are

> white. He is orange, though. And he started turning orange just

> days after I stopped D.

This makes sense based on vitamin D helping with the absorption of A.

Try removing all the carotenes, see if that helps.

Dana