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I'm sure you've told us before, but what's his diet like? What was your yeast

protocol?

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<p>Dear Andy and listmates.<br>

<br>

My son will be 9 in Feb and we have used your protocol to great <br>

effect (DMSA & ALA) but have had to stop again as he has serious <br>

inflammation and bacteria (staph which causes boils and citrobac) <br>

ALSO has OAT fungal and yeast markers off the chart- nearly ALL of <br>

them, very unusually elevated and pus in his recent stool sample <br>

showing a lot of inflammation. We restarted one round of chelation <br>

Cutler protocol and have had to stop again as 3 days after the round <br>

his stomach issues really flared up and he has regressed <br>

subsequently due to inflammation and gut issues. <br>

<br>

My DAN! has prescribed secretin and oxytocin nasal spray and td <br>

glutathione to try and help his gut. We have ordered the porphoryn <br>

test and hair anaylsis to see how things currently are- do not want <br>

to do challenge tests again. I know you say continue to chelate but <br>

it really is causing inflammation.<wbr>..I am keen to do it but is there <br>

a td way that you would approve of? He regressed big style on DMPS, <br>

even at your frequent dose schedule. Do you rate any of the <br>

transdermals in this situation?<br>

<br>

Thanks very much<br>

<br>

Sue<br>

<br>

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> Dear Andy and listmates.

>

> My son will be 9 in Feb and we have used your protocol to great

> effect (DMSA & ALA) but have had to stop again as he has serious

> inflammation and bacteria (staph which causes boils and citrobac)

> ALSO has OAT fungal and yeast markers off the chart- nearly ALL of

> them, very unusually elevated and pus in his recent stool sample

> showing a lot of inflammation. We restarted one round of chelation

> Cutler protocol and have had to stop again as 3 days after the round

> his stomach issues really flared up and he has regressed

> subsequently due to inflammation and gut issues.

>

> My DAN! has prescribed secretin and oxytocin nasal spray and td

> glutathione to try and help his gut.

Try seeing a real doctor instead. these are irrelevant.

>We have ordered the porphoryn

> test and hair anaylsis to see how things currently are- do not want

> to do challenge tests again. I know you say continue to chelate but

> it really is causing inflammation...I am keen to do it but is there

> a td way that you would approve of?

Adminster with the same frequency as if you were giving it by mouth.

>He regressed big style on DMPS,

> even at your frequent dose schedule. Do you rate any of the

> transdermals in this situation?

>

> Thanks very much

>

> Sue

You don't mention any of the effective dysbiosis control techniques like dietary

restriction

(e. g. specific carbohydrate diet),

If nothing else, make really really really sure he is not getting any yellow dye

#5.

>

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-Thanks for the reply. He is gfcf (8yrs) was scd 2 yrs but became

allergic to what he was having as it was more restricted so he is

still mainly scd but with some potates and brown rice now. He was

completely sugar free for TWO years and no improvement, so I kjnow

we cannot do anymore than we are re;diet. He is still suger free

with a little honey occasionally.

The " real doctors " are complicit in their ignorance of vaccines and

this is what got him into this mess in the first place so I'll stick

with my DAN! doc and your principles of chelation. I still cannot

see how I can give chelation drugs orally to a child who has gut

inlfammation enough to overrride all the gains to date and space him

out totally. It is like fanning the flames of a fire. I am not

exaggerating his gut symptoms as they are the biggest issue for a

lot of other kids too. He is approaching being NT until the gut

flares and then we are back to square one. I don't think TD pulls

much but I don't think we have much choice at present. I may try ALA

by itslef for a couple of rounds when his stomach situation resolves

a bit and see if his gut copes with this agent better. What do you

think?

Many thanks Andy,

Sue Lawson

-- In , " andrewhallcutler "

<AndyCutler@...> wrote:

>

>

> >

> > Dear Andy and listmates.

> >

> > My son will be 9 in Feb and we have used your protocol to great

> > effect (DMSA & ALA) but have had to stop again as he has serious

> > inflammation and bacteria (staph which causes boils and

citrobac)

> > ALSO has OAT fungal and yeast markers off the chart- nearly ALL

of

> > them, very unusually elevated and pus in his recent stool sample

> > showing a lot of inflammation. We restarted one round of

chelation

> > Cutler protocol and have had to stop again as 3 days after the

round

> > his stomach issues really flared up and he has regressed

> > subsequently due to inflammation and gut issues.

> >

> > My DAN! has prescribed secretin and oxytocin nasal spray and td

> > glutathione to try and help his gut.

>

> Try seeing a real doctor instead. these are irrelevant.

>

> >We have ordered the porphoryn

> > test and hair anaylsis to see how things currently are- do not

want

> > to do challenge tests again. I know you say continue to chelate

but

> > it really is causing inflammation...I am keen to do it but is

there

> > a td way that you would approve of?

>

> Adminster with the same frequency as if you were giving it by

mouth.

>

> >He regressed big style on DMPS,

> > even at your frequent dose schedule. Do you rate any of the

> > transdermals in this situation?

> >

> > Thanks very much

> >

> > Sue

>

> You don't mention any of the effective dysbiosis control

techniques like dietary restriction

> (e. g. specific carbohydrate diet),

>

> If nothing else, make really really really sure he is not getting

any yellow dye #5.

> >

>

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Have you considered the High Dose Vit-A protocol ?

Maybe some rounds of ALA and then the Vit-A protocol would help the gut to

heal.

Have you looked into LDN ?

Good Luck !

Neil

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Subject: [ ] Re: How can he resart chelation with bacteria and

serious gut inflammation? Andy?

-Thanks for the reply. He is gfcf (8yrs) was scd 2 yrs but became

allergic to what he was having as it was more restricted so he is

still mainly scd but with some potates and brown rice now. He was

completely sugar free for TWO years and no improvement, so I kjnow

we cannot do anymore than we are re;diet. He is still suger free

with a little honey occasionally.

The " real doctors " are complicit in their ignorance of vaccines and

this is what got him into this mess in the first place so I'll stick

with my DAN! doc and your principles of chelation. I still cannot

see how I can give chelation drugs orally to a child who has gut

inlfammation enough to overrride all the gains to date and space him

out totally. It is like fanning the flames of a fire. I am not

exaggerating his gut symptoms as they are the biggest issue for a

lot of other kids too. He is approaching being NT until the gut

flares and then we are back to square one. I don't think TD pulls

much but I don't think we have much choice at present. I may try ALA

by itslef for a couple of rounds when his stomach situation resolves

a bit and see if his gut copes with this agent better. What do you

think?

Many thanks Andy,

Sue Lawson

-- In @ <mailto: %40>

, " andrewhallcutler "

<AndyCutler@...> wrote:

>

>

> >

> > Dear Andy and listmates.

> >

> > My son will be 9 in Feb and we have used your protocol to great

> > effect (DMSA & ALA) but have had to stop again as he has serious

> > inflammation and bacteria (staph which causes boils and

citrobac)

> > ALSO has OAT fungal and yeast markers off the chart- nearly ALL

of

> > them, very unusually elevated and pus in his recent stool sample

> > showing a lot of inflammation. We restarted one round of

chelation

> > Cutler protocol and have had to stop again as 3 days after the

round

> > his stomach issues really flared up and he has regressed

> > subsequently due to inflammation and gut issues.

> >

> > My DAN! has prescribed secretin and oxytocin nasal spray and td

> > glutathione to try and help his gut.

>

> Try seeing a real doctor instead. these are irrelevant.

>

> >We have ordered the porphoryn

> > test and hair anaylsis to see how things currently are- do not

want

> > to do challenge tests again. I know you say continue to chelate

but

> > it really is causing inflammation...I am keen to do it but is

there

> > a td way that you would approve of?

>

> Adminster with the same frequency as if you were giving it by

mouth.

>

> >He regressed big style on DMPS,

> > even at your frequent dose schedule. Do you rate any of the

> > transdermals in this situation?

> >

> > Thanks very much

> >

> > Sue

>

> You don't mention any of the effective dysbiosis control

techniques like dietary restriction

> (e. g. specific carbohydrate diet),

>

> If nothing else, make really really really sure he is not getting

any yellow dye #5.

> >

>

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Hi Neil,

He was on LDN for 19mths but became allergic to something in it!

Weeping sore patches wherever it was applied so we had to stop that.

He did the HD Vit A in September so I am wondering when to repeat

this.

We have a HBOT chamber so we have upped his time in there too.

Thanks for your reply- I hope things are going well for your family.

Sue

> > >

> > > Dear Andy and listmates.

> > >

> > > My son will be 9 in Feb and we have used your protocol to

great

> > > effect (DMSA & ALA) but have had to stop again as he has

serious

> > > inflammation and bacteria (staph which causes boils and

> citrobac)

> > > ALSO has OAT fungal and yeast markers off the chart- nearly

ALL

> of

> > > them, very unusually elevated and pus in his recent stool

sample

> > > showing a lot of inflammation. We restarted one round of

> chelation

> > > Cutler protocol and have had to stop again as 3 days after the

> round

> > > his stomach issues really flared up and he has regressed

> > > subsequently due to inflammation and gut issues.

> > >

> > > My DAN! has prescribed secretin and oxytocin nasal spray and

td

> > > glutathione to try and help his gut.

> >

> > Try seeing a real doctor instead. these are irrelevant.

> >

> > >We have ordered the porphoryn

> > > test and hair anaylsis to see how things currently are- do not

> want

> > > to do challenge tests again. I know you say continue to

chelate

> but

> > > it really is causing inflammation...I am keen to do it but is

> there

> > > a td way that you would approve of?

> >

> > Adminster with the same frequency as if you were giving it by

> mouth.

> >

> > >He regressed big style on DMPS,

> > > even at your frequent dose schedule. Do you rate any of the

> > > transdermals in this situation?

> > >

> > > Thanks very much

> > >

> > > Sue

> >

> > You don't mention any of the effective dysbiosis control

> techniques like dietary restriction

> > (e. g. specific carbohydrate diet),

> >

> > If nothing else, make really really really sure he is not

getting

> any yellow dye #5.

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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