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> I thank you all for the discussion and I think I got a pretty good

> idea what you are thinking. Anyway I think in yaskos protocol I would

> have to stop cheliation and start with step 1 supps. However DS does

> really well with Cutlers protocol and we are seing nice gains .

If it's working, Stick With It.

> However. iam not sure if DS is dumping metals out because he is on a

> huge amount off supps as well.

If he's improving, that's enough to know. There isn;t really a good

way to measure what's being excreted, but changes in health and

behavior are good indications.

> I do like a lot of Amys protocol, I really like to try some

> things but it seems like a pretty unflexible protocol regarding steps

> and chelaition.

Is chelation not allowed on her protocol? I bet people are doing both.

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I would love to know this too: is there any way to combine the Yasko

and Cutler protocols, or would you just end up with a big mess?

René

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> > I do like a lot of Amys protocol, I really like to try some

> > things but it seems like a pretty unflexible protocol regarding

steps

> > and chelaition.

>

> Is chelation not allowed on her protocol? I bet people are doing

both.

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In a message dated 10/08/2006 03:53:46 GMT Daylight Time, lanellici@...

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> I do like a lot of Amys protocol, I really like to try some

> things but it seems like a pretty unflexible protocol regarding steps

> and chelaition.

Is chelation not allowed on her protocol? I bet people are doing both.

>>>Chelation I think is the last step - she concentrates on getting the

detox systems working effectively.

My mate has chelated all ways in AC over the years with little in the way of

dumps (on testing) and sustained improvements, her kid is dumping more Hg and

Aluminium on no chelating that she ever has tested with chelation. Still

working on the sustained part of improvements but she is moving in the right

direction. This is phase 1 of the protocol....

Mandi x who is about to start learnign but really has no clue right now LOL

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> My mate has chelated all ways in AC over the years with little in

the way of

> dumps (on testing) and sustained improvements, her kid is dumping

more Hg and

> Aluminium on no chelating that she ever has tested with chelation.

Still

> working on the sustained part of improvements but she is moving in

the right

> direction.

Do you mean the testing is looking great but clinical results so far

are so-so?

So we've been doing trial and error trying to work out how to get our

kids' systems working again -- i.e. which methylator, if any; which

oil, if any, etc. And what Yasko is doing is trying to assess

beforehand by looking at known genetic indications which supps might

be successful at getting particular pathways to work again? Have I got

that right, Yasko people?

My understanding is that the biggest reason that at least some of

these pathways aren't working is that Hg is squatting in the middle of

them. Does Yasko think differently, or have a way to circumvent that?

Nell

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Which chelators are sulfur-based? Is there any other way (other than

genetic tests and such Yasko calls for) to detect sulfur handling?

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> Every child on the spectrum responds differently to the DAN! most

> popular therapies (Methyl-B12, chelation, yeast killers, etc.) And

> if you see that your child is not responding, that is where Yasko's

> approach is an alternative to figuring out what to do to boost the

> recovery process.

>

> My son did not respond to Methyl-B12. As a matter of fact, he would

> start talking very nicely and 3 days later regressed every time I

> administered it and lost language. I learned about Yasko in Jan06.

> In February I had already viewed all her DVDs and sent in the

> genetic test with GAR option. When I received the results, it was

> challenging trying to figure out where all the pieces fit. When I

> received her GAR, I noticed that what I had figured out concurred

> with Yasko. I started adding the supplements that she had hand-

> written on my son's results and it has been miraculous. He has 2

> mutations that call for extra Methly B12 (MTRR), yet he has another

> one (CBS) that causes ammonia to elevate greatly if Methly-B12 is

> administered. I started giving him Yasko's suggested supplements

> about 2 months ago. This week he started speaking in more

> conversational language. I could write a long note about the

> improvements, but what I want to say is that you don't need to start

> from scratch, just be careful and understand that if you are using a

> sulfur based chelator and your child has a mutation that prevents

> the body from getting rid of that extra sulfur, he/she is going to

> regress, etc.

>

> I hope I make sense. It is really worthwhile. It is very hard to

> understand at the beginning, but it makes a world of sense once you

> figure it out. I am doing DAN and Yasko with outstanding results

> now.

>

> .

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All the chelators are sulfur-based. There are blood tests to measure sulfur.

There is also another way to test, with food, is things like eggs or onions or

broccoli or milk make you or your child feel worse your sulfur is probably high.

If not, probably not.

Good question.

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Which chelators are sulfur-based? Is there any other way (other than

genetic tests and such Yasko calls for) to detect sulfur handling?

>

> Every child on the spectrum responds differently to the DAN! most

> popular therapies (Methyl-B12, chelation, yeast killers, etc.) And

> if you see that your child is not responding, that is where Yasko's

> approach is an alternative to figuring out what to do to boost the

> recovery process.

>

> My son did not respond to Methyl-B12. As a matter of fact, he would

> start talking very nicely and 3 days later regressed every time I

> administered it and lost language. I learned about Yasko in Jan06.

> In February I had already viewed all her DVDs and sent in the

> genetic test with GAR option. When I received the results, it was

> challenging trying to figure out where all the pieces fit. When I

> received her GAR, I noticed that what I had figured out concurred

> with Yasko. I started adding the supplements that she had hand-

> written on my son's results and it has been miraculous. He has 2

> mutations that call for extra Methly B12 (MTRR), yet he has another

> one (CBS) that causes ammonia to elevate greatly if Methly-B12 is

> administered. I started giving him Yasko's suggested supplements

> about 2 months ago. This week he started speaking in more

> conversational language. I could write a long note about the

> improvements, but what I want to say is that you don't need to start

> from scratch, just be careful and understand that if you are using a

> sulfur based chelator and your child has a mutation that prevents

> the body from getting rid of that extra sulfur, he/she is going to

> regress, etc.

>

> I hope I make sense. It is really worthwhile. It is very hard to

> understand at the beginning, but it makes a world of sense once you

> figure it out. I am doing DAN and Yasko with outstanding results

> now.

>

> .

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> All the chelators are sulfur-based. There are blood tests to measure

sulfur. There is also another way to test, with food, is things like

eggs or onions or broccoli or milk make you or your child feel worse

your sulfur is probably high. If not, probably not.

>

> Good question.

>

>

Garlic! My ds loves garlic and eats tons of it. I love garlic too

but if I eat more than a little I feel sick. My BIL can't even smell

garlic without feeling sick.

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If you want to test for sulphur, the test you need is plasma cysteine

(and maybe plasma sulfate too, not sure) from Genova Diagnostics

(formerly Great Smokies Labs). It's part of the detoxification

profile, but I believe it can be ordered seperately. If need be, it

can be ordered without a doctor's help at www.directlabs.com.

If plasma cysteine is elevated, Andy says to avoid sulphur foods like

the plague. There is a good list of sulphur foods in his book

Amalgam Illness, and you can also get a good idea of them if you put

the search terms " sulfur foods " (or similar) and " andrewhallcutler "

into Onibasu's search engine.

http://www.gdx.net/home/assessments/detox/appguide/index.html

take care

René

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> > ,

> >

> > All the chelators are sulfur-based. There are blood tests to

measure

> sulfur. There is also another way to test, with food, is things

like

> eggs or onions or broccoli or milk make you or your child feel

worse

> your sulfur is probably high. If not, probably not.

> >

> > Good question.

> >

> >

>

> Garlic! My ds loves garlic and eats tons of it. I love garlic too

> but if I eat more than a little I feel sick. My BIL can't even

smell

> garlic without feeling sick.

>

>

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