Re: itchy rash & regression following dmps round- worried- how do I stablise him

October 14, 2006

> Spmething has gone badly wrong since we started the DMPS

> though, he HAS BEEN CHRONICALLY CONSTIPATED,

Yeast can be constipating. Other ideas here

http://www.danasview.net/constip.htm

>>What else can I do please? should I continue this weekend

> with the normal 3 hrly Cutler protocol with the DMSA/ALA to try to

> mop up any Hg floating around.

Since he is having problems with DMPS, you can certainly use DMSA/ALA

and see if his body tolerates those better.

Dana

October 14, 2006

Thanks for the link Dana. We have battled yeast for many years but

he cannot point blank tolerate any of the azoles antifungals, only

nystatin and amphotericin. I do not know whay this is. He regresses

on ketaconazole and diflucan and does not improve at all, after

perservering for some weeks after which die off would have reduced.

He certainly has got major yeasty behaviours that come over in waves.

Currently trying kyolic garlic and after thinking about it & reading

the list here,I'm trying him on GSE in caps to try & avoid sore

throat. He is scd which entails using dried fruit and honey as part

of a balanced scd diet, or else we are really really struggling to

get calories in. Even 4 yrs ago when i removed every single sweet

thing in his diet for a couple of years we didn't conquer yeast. Scd

is a lot more well balanced in my experience, but his eczema is

really bad again. I have sent off OAT hair analysis, urine toxic

metals, and food allergy combo off the American labs. At least it

will give us a more up to date picture as it is a while since we

have had an OAT despite all the treatments he has been on. He does

MB12, we have a HBOT which has been really helpful and which I

should be in now with him! LDN, chelation have all been helpful as

scd but major gut motility and yeast/viral/detox issues remain. The

metals just keep pouring out of him with no sign of going down

whatsoever. The rest of the family have sent off hair and urine

challenge tests so I will let you all know if anything interesting

shows up there.

All the best, many thanks again for your help

Sue

> > Spmething has gone badly wrong since we started the DMPS

> > though, he HAS BEEN CHRONICALLY CONSTIPATED,

>

> Yeast can be constipating. Other ideas here

>

> http://www.danasview.net/constip.htm

>

> >>What else can I do please? should I continue this weekend

> > with the normal 3 hrly Cutler protocol with the DMSA/ALA to try

to

> > mop up any Hg floating around.

>

> Since he is having problems with DMPS, you can certainly use

DMSA/ALA

> and see if his body tolerates those better.

>

> Dana

>

October 15, 2006

> Thanks for the link Dana. We have battled yeast for many years but

> he cannot point blank tolerate any of the azoles antifungals, only

> nystatin and amphotericin. I do not know whay this is.

What about a yeast digesting enzyme like Candex or Candidase?

>>Even 4 yrs ago when i removed every single sweet

> thing in his diet for a couple of years we didn't conquer yeast.

This sounds like the yeast is caused more by viruses than by metals/foods.

>> Scd

> is a lot more well balanced in my experience, but his eczema is

> really bad again.

I was never able to even consider SCD because my son did not tolerate

most of the foods, even with enzymes. Eczema is often caused by food

intolerance. My son did not tolerate anything orange or green until

the end of ALA chelation plus a few supplements, especially selenium.

Dana

October 15, 2006

I didn't know viruses could cause yeast. He is on natural antivirals

and we did the High dose vit a 2 day thing the weekend before last.

He had really strange stools afterwards -very yellow and dry- vit A

coming out? and he hasn't been well since. As the only Vit A i can

get hold of it srom USA on prescription (the UK versions have

aspartic acid in which I do not want him to have) I have had to rely

on the vit a from CLO (Nordic Naturals which he's had for a few

years) to keep a vit a intake going. He has still got the horrendous

pimply raised pin prick rash coming out all over his torso and it

has now come out on his legs, like something is pushing out and

raising his skin at those points. It is also very itchy. Never seen

this before. I have used Candex etc before but it never did great

and I have been so concerned about reflux that giving it on an empty

stomach concerned me re; irritation. What would you do?

Maybe he is reacating to the nuts in his diet. I await the Food

combo results from GPL!

Many thanks,

Sue

> > Thanks for the link Dana. We have battled yeast for many years

but

> > he cannot point blank tolerate any of the azoles antifungals,

only

> > nystatin and amphotericin. I do not know whay this is.

>

> What about a yeast digesting enzyme like Candex or Candidase?

>

> >>Even 4 yrs ago when i removed every single sweet

> > thing in his diet for a couple of years we didn't conquer yeast.

>

> This sounds like the yeast is caused more by viruses than by

metals/foods.

>

> >> Scd

> > is a lot more well balanced in my experience, but his eczema is

> > really bad again.

>

> I was never able to even consider SCD because my son did not

tolerate

> most of the foods, even with enzymes. Eczema is often caused by

food

> intolerance. My son did not tolerate anything orange or green

until

> the end of ALA chelation plus a few supplements, especially

selenium.

>

> Dana

>

October 16, 2006

> I didn't know viruses could cause yeast. He is on natural antivirals

> and we did the High dose vit a 2 day thing the weekend before last.

Did you use CLO for the high dose? If so, consider he might have

vitamin D toxicity now.

> on the vit a from CLO (Nordic Naturals which he's had for a few

> years) to keep a vit a intake going. He has still got the horrendous

> pimply raised pin prick rash coming out all over his torso and it

> has now come out on his legs, like something is pushing out and

> raising his skin at those points. It is also very itchy. Never seen

> this before.

This sounds like vitamin A toxicity rash. Drop the CLO for a week,

see if it goes away.

Dana

October 16, 2006

Hi there Dana, and listmates,

We used vit a palmitate (referring to the Sid Baker document so it

seems unlikeley to be the vit D, and it doesn't sound like the vit a

as it is all over his torso, really bad on the back and under the

arms at the back, not the neck. Also it came on on day 4 of the DMPS

disaster trial. This would make it 10 days after the High dose

trial..is this too long for toxicity?

I was wondering if you could advise what I should do regarding

's really appalling constipation. Yesterday I changed his scd

diet to scd with nothing at all of fruit or sweetened with honey. He

has been eating lots of vegetable soups with scd prepared lentils

(only veg in them carrot, onion, garlic, celery, tumeric, usual

herbs, red soaked lentils) with organic chicken, eggs, cashew nuts,

organic peanut butter. He has also had 2 cups a day of carrot &

celery juice with a tiny touch of lemon, maxed up with 3000mg vit c

in divided doses (he uses all this up...keep seeing low vit c on lab

tests ) He also ate mashed carrot & swede & cauliflower with chicken

and homemade salmon fishcakes (he doesn't have much salmon anymore

but it was that or something sweet tonight as so hungry)Everything

homemade and no additives. Drinking lots of water. He is on all the

usual supplements. I started supplementing betaine Hcl with main

meals and dandelion to help phase II of his liver detox but no other

changes since last weekend with the dmps chelation round (we usually

do DMSA & ALA with improvements each round.

Here's what I have taken out due to extreme PROLONGED RECENTLY

candida drunken manic possessed behaviours and I have had a lot of

help from Williss who suggested many useful things we have

implemented.

oranges, satsumas, raisins and all dried fruit, honey. Prune juice.

I cannot understand why he is requiring enemas! He should be going

to the loo with all this veg. I bet a lot of the listmates wish

their child ate as much as and yet he is in an awful way. I

dare not give liquid paraffin anymore as with a leaky gut I have

been warned off it as it goes to the brain. I feel as if all my

options to help him are narrowed on the anti candida scd diet. Any

input from anyone greatly appreciated. I am worn out from seeing him

in such a way.

Please, how else can I help support detox pathways?

He is on MB12 shots, HBOT, chelation, LDN (all established and were

helping) He has daily epsom salts baths, coconut oil and EPO body

rubs, reflexology DIY from a book style several times a day (he

likes this) We do cycling and walking for fresh air and relaxation.

I am fed up!!!

Sue

> > I didn't know viruses could cause yeast. He is on natural

antivirals

> > and we did the High dose vit a 2 day thing the weekend before

last.

>

> Did you use CLO for the high dose? If so, consider he might have

> vitamin D toxicity now.

>

> > on the vit a from CLO (Nordic Naturals which he's had for a few

> > years) to keep a vit a intake going. He has still got the

horrendous

> > pimply raised pin prick rash coming out all over his torso and

it

> > has now come out on his legs, like something is pushing out and

> > raising his skin at those points. It is also very itchy. Never

seen

> > this before.

>

> This sounds like vitamin A toxicity rash. Drop the CLO for a week,

> see if it goes away.

>

> Dana

>

October 16, 2006

Sue,

I don't see anything about Magnesium ...

I suggest that you crank up the Vitamin C (we use allergy C) and Magnesium.

I mean really crank it up ... the worst that should happen is an extreme

" success " !

Once you get things going well, then back down to where things move

smoothly.

Also, add in some digestive enzymes if you aren't already.

Good luck !

Neil

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