Equivalence of transdermal and oral DMPS/DMSA on Cutler protocols?

[Guest guest]

I'm new to this group, have literally hundreds of pages to read on

chelation from this and other site /sources which I have not gotten to

yet (have an autistic child and very little help) and just wondered if

there was someone who already has an answer to this question.

We were doing TDDMPS and our current doctor prefers TDDMSA (so we'd

like to explore both options depending on which doctor we're seeing)

which is already low dose 30mg/ml, which I could deliver half a mil

easily on the cutler schedule. However, has he or anyone else found

that the same dose timing applies TD, so you do every 3 or 4 or 8

hours and it's equivalent, or is it really not or causes problems to

mix TD/oral or just do TD at the same doses eg 15mg that you'd be

eating? Also has anyone else done oral part of the day and

transdermal for night doses or if their child won't eat the oral or is

napping? Our child often refuses oral supplements, spits them out,

etc. We just want to know what options/flexibility we have.

[Guest guest]

Ok, let me try to help with this:

Oral is prefered over td because it is more stable and the dosing is

steady. All the kids balk at it at first..we have to mix or hide it

in foods/treats to get them to take it. After a while they adjust.

Td is useable but usually if you go td, that's what you use the

whole round..not td and oral. the dosing is figured differently

also. With Td it is only about 20% absorbed when applied to the

skin. It also does not have a long shelf life. So dosing is a bit

different but timing is the same. 3.4.8 hours depending on the

chelator. If you were giving oral and td the actual amounts recieved

would vary to much and cause side effects. Since oral provides an

accurate steady dose each time, and the Td dose is a bit different

and depends on absorption rates. Of which we cannot perfectly

calculate. I am sure some have probably tried using both, but it

could be a problem.

dmps is fine for mercury and metals in general

dmsa is better if lead is a problem

Ala is always needed at some point later on to get mercury from the

brain.

Usually, most here say if you try td and don't see any results then

you need to do oral. SO if there is no reason why your child cannot

try oral first..you may wish to do that. Whether oral or td you

still have to dose it at night and such anyway (unless dmps).Oral is

cheaper also. Your child will have to take a lot of supplements

also and will thus adjust to taking things after some time. The

choice is yours of course, and you need to choose what will work

best for you and your family. TD does work, but sometimes not as

well. For some it works great, but for others it doesn't.

Search the old post or repost about calculating the TD dosage.

Others here know how to do that.

>

> I'm new to this group, have literally hundreds of pages to read on

> chelation from this and other site /sources which I have not

gotten to

> yet (have an autistic child and very little help) and just

wondered if

> there was someone who already has an answer to this question.

>

> We were doing TDDMPS and our current doctor prefers TDDMSA (so we'd

> like to explore both options depending on which doctor we're

seeing)

> which is already low dose 30mg/ml, which I could deliver half a mil

> easily on the cutler schedule. However, has he or anyone else found

> that the same dose timing applies TD, so you do every 3 or 4 or 8

> hours and it's equivalent, or is it really not or causes problems

to

> mix TD/oral or just do TD at the same doses eg 15mg that you'd be

> eating? Also has anyone else done oral part of the day and

> transdermal for night doses or if their child won't eat the oral

or is

> napping? Our child often refuses oral supplements, spits them out,

> etc. We just want to know what options/flexibility we have.

>